r/exmuslim • • Mar 26 '26

(News) We exist… around the world: 500 ExMuslim stories mubaraaaaaak! 🥳🥳🥳

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Hi community! 🥰

Taking inspiration from QueeringtheMap.com, I helped create exmuslim.me with a small team of ExMuslims last year. We launched the first ever global map of exmuslim stories as part of ExMuslim Month in December 2025.

I’m so incredibly thrilled to share that we now have 500 exmuslim stories from 233 cities and 60 countries! 🥳🥳🥳

📊 59% identify as atheists, 26% agnostic

🇪🇬 Read the 500th story from Egypt

🤗 Thank you to everyone who has shared their story already!

🤍 Share yours and help ExMuslims on their journey out of Islam: https://exmuslim.me/

Cheers! 🥂

Sammy aka Haram Doodles


r/exmuslim • • Jun 03 '24

(Advice/Help) Exmuslim Guide to Living in the Closet and Coming Out.

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Hello. Upon request, I've been asked to turn a comment I made into a post so that it can be a resource for more people. This post is a collection of advice I've given out about how to handle your life as a closeted exmuslim and how you'll come out in the future. It is largely based on my experience but also from what I've seen from others in this subreddit.

Introduction

So you've left Islam. You've delved through arguments, the apologetics and the bullshit and you've come to the conclusion that you no longer believe in Islam. And you may have also reached an alternative philosophical outlook on life that you can believe in.

But what now? You may have left Islam, but have you left the Muslim world? One of the most common misconceptions outsiders have is that since exmuslims are no longer Muslims, they no longer live in the Muslim world. This is painfully naive - in reality many exmuslims are closeted due to young age and financial dependency and/or live in Islamist countries or societies that enforce Islamic values. In fear of social stigma or even violence, exmuslims have to contend with closeted lives even after leaving Islam. So how do you deal with it?

Goal

The best time to come out to family is in your own home, over a dinner you paid for, alongside people who support you. That takes a lot of preparation and it means doing what you can to live your life as best as you can whilst working towards independence.

This basically means that a lot of what helps you come out of the closet will depend heavily on how well you prepared for it, so you will need to make the most of your closeted life. You may not be able to stop the shitstorm but you can at least prepare yourself to weather it. Here are some tips to achieve that goal (in no particular order)

1) Don't meander in life due to a lack of decision making skills.

Probably one of the worst mistakes I made was not realise I was an exmuslim sooner. As a result I had barely any time to prepare for when the inevitable happened and I was forced to come out. I spent a lot of my life meandering, trying to reconcile the irreconcilable, and trying to be a Muslim when I knew my values didn't align with it. I didn't really have much of a concept of exmuslims, but if I had been smarter I would have figured it out. I now tell people in a similar position that it's fine to take your time but don't take too long. Half arsing two very different cultures will leave you a loser in both.

Similarly whilst planning for independence can be scary, don’t let it frighten you into inaction. The following is a passage from this article about decision making:

Research from the 1990s led by the US psychologist Thomas Gilovich provides further evidence for why it can be shortsighted to kick a difficult decision down the road. Gilovich and his team showed that although, in the short term, people experience more regret from ‘errors of commission’ (taking an action that leads to a disappointing outcome), in the long term it is actually ‘errors of omission’ that lead to more regret – that is, disappointing outcomes that arise from not taking an action.

When taking the time to make decisions and plans, don’t underestimate how effective it can be to map out your options on an excel spreadsheet. When I had to decide whether I should come out or not, I actually made a spreadsheet listing out my options, what they would result in and what the impact would be. Actually having it written down to look at really put things into perspective. We waste a lot of our time keeping it in our heads, which forces us to recalculate everything from scratch every time we revisit our thoughts. But the more that is mapped out, the less you have to recalculate and the more you can focus on evaluation and further planning.

2) Study, career and finances.

Your studies/career is almost always your best ticket out of your toxic situation, and the one thing to prioritise the most. If you’re young, do whatever you can to ensure that you can get into further education away from home. Even if it means spending all your time at a local library. If you suspect that your parents would be against you going to a university away from home, aim for a placement at the most prestigious university you can aim for so your parents would look worse for rejecting it. The quickest and most effective way in achieving long term independence is through good studies/career.

3) Do not telegraph irreligiosity whilst being closeted.

This is particularly important for younger exmuslims because they telegraph to their parents in ways they would just not understand until they see it for themselves when they're older. Try your best to meet the religious obligations expected from your family. The more you slip, the more they will monitor you and the more difficult it will be to do the things you need to do discreetly when the time comes.

Unfortunately for girls, this usually means that wearing the hijab is a necessity and it’s inadvisable to try and get out of. (However, that subject matter is not my forte: prioritise advice from exmuslim women such as from faithlesshijabi.org)

4) Sometimes you may need to go above and beyond.

If you get the impression that your family is beginning to catch onto your apostasy then it's likely that they have and you may need to reverse that impression.

One way to do that would be to start getting books on Islam and not just for show. My advice would be to get books on Islamic history because that's the least boring stuff. Or better yet, just get whatever unapologetic salafi hate crime you can get your hands on so you can entertain yourself with how fucked up it is. Or get an annotated Qur'an like the Study Qur'an. Do something to ease their suspicions.

What book you get depends on what kind of message you want to telegraph to your parents. If you want to telegraph a message then it will need to be a paper book and not an e-book. Something that you can lay around in your room and that you know they'll see. That means you're restricted to what you can get from your local library or Masjid. Also depends on what interests you because you'll have to actually read and demonstrate you learnt from it if you want send the best message you can. If you want purely what Muslims write about Islamic history, you can check out works like The Sealed Nectar or works by al-Sallabi. If you want something a little more academic, but not something that would rouse suspicion then check out university press works like this, this, this or this. If you want something a bit more relevant to contemporary Muslim world then there books like this.

But you may find that your best bet is to just see what your local Masjid might have and see what tickles your fancy.

5) Actually coming out is usually a shitstorm.

Be prepared for lots of sobbing, guilt tripping and an inability to respect your beliefs and boundaries. Learn techniques like the Broken Record Technique to establish boundaries. Know what you have to say when they inevitably tell you to speak to a scholar - you don't have to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten. You know all that you need to know about Islam and you know even more about the world outside of Islam to put it into context.

Steel yourself with months and months of your family sending you bad dawagandist videos through WhatsApp trying to bring you back. You may have to spend months beating their attempts and going to toe to toe with them without mercy before they’re finally willing to relent and get off your back. Even then don’t expect them to relent entirely. There will always be some micro aggressions that they will resort to, like playing religious videos loudly in your vicinity. The most you can do in those circumstances is reduce contact with them as much as possible. At this point you would hopefully already be independent from them.

6) Do not feel guilt.

As an exmuslim, you will go through a lot of guilt. Whilst this does show you are human, you need to forget about guilt: you are not responsible for your parents' failure to be reasonable, not even your mother. They take responsibility for the social stigma and oppressive life they choose to live in and perpetuate. You get nothing out of that guilt. It's completely pointless and ultimately counterproductive. You can't set yourself on fire to make others warm and you gain no recognition from martyrizing yourself. Do not feel guilt for what you have to do to have a completely reasonable life. The only ones to blame are those who forced you into it.

Don't underestimate parents either. They will use guilt against you. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. They very often bring up their health problems as a weapon against you. Don't fall for it. It only affects them because they choose to let it affect them. They can choose to be reasonable. You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways.

7) Don't come out too soon thinking it's a release.

I come across a lot of exmuslim kids who think coming out will help explain to their religious parents why they don't want to wear the hijab or do other religious things. But the likelihood is more that those same parents will react extremely poorly and restrict your freedom even more, making it more difficult to achieve long term independence.

There's also the mistake in assuming that coming out will lead to being disowned in the vain hope that you get an quick clean break that takes all the responsibility from you. For some exmuslims this does actually work out, but for a lot of others it's miscalculated. My family didn't disown me, I still had to deal with months of my family being insufferable manipulators and the responsibility was still on me to separate from them. And for women it can be much worse.

Ultimately, if you are financially dependent on your family then coming out early will very typically result in your family using that leverage against you and making your life worse. I've seen stories of exmuslims who thought their family was better and badly miscalculated - be mindful of that.

8) Don’t panic too much if they find out.

Some exmuslims get found out, sometimes because of a snitch in the family or sometimes because they just weren’t convincing enough. Don’t panic – Muslims can be pretty damn deluded about their faith and your family will want to believe that you can come back very easily because according to them Islam is just common sense and most disbelievers are just silly and ignorant. Try to do your best to convince them as per Point 4. If it’s because you did something haram, blasphemous or otherwise worthy of takfir, try to act like it was because you were a misguided Quranist or progressive Muslim. They will still retain suspicion but it’s still better than the alternative.

However, if you’re at the point of no return and you know you can’t convince them then now is the time to make calls to any secular friends you have, ask for support and maybe even shelter.

Also for Western exmuslims, make sure to act quickly if you suspect that your parents want to send you abroad and trap you in your country of ethnic origin. Sadly some parents will go to these lengths. Do not go, no matter the cost. Find organisations willing to advise, such as those listed in Point 10. Hide your passport if you have to. Note down the contact details of your embassy in that country just in case.

9) Go no contact if you fear abuse.

Actually think about whether it's even wise for you to come out in any circumstance. Do you suspect that there could be violence or abuse? If so then you have absolutely no need to go through this stupid bullshit. Leave and don't look back. If your parents couldn't give you safe environment to even come out about different beliefs then they are not worth the time. As per Point 6 - You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways. This is particularly pertinent for those who live in a predominantly Muslim countries. They have a very real reason to fear persecution and absolutely do not need to risk their own lives for the sake of their parents.

10) Make use of organisations and resources.

Look into secular organisations like recoveringfromreligion.org, faithlesshijabi.org and faithtofaithless.com. Look into women's charities in your area like womensaid.org.uk or karmanirvana.org.uk (UK examples). Look into LGBT charities like rainbowrailroad.org. If you have secular school counsellors and friends then talk to them. Get advice from adults you can absolutely trust.

Note: On the flip side don't take risks with people you can’t be sure of. You may be tempted to come out to your Muslim friend, but I've seen plenty of stories of exmuslims who heavily regret doing so.

There are also informal exmuslim groups on other social media platforms such as Facebook or Discord, but be careful about how much information you share and especially be wary of private messaging.

11) You may have to leave the country.

This is particularly the case for exmuslims living in predominantly Muslim countries. Unfortunately, I don't have any real world experience to offer here but you may be able to find localised advice by digging around. For example sites like wearesaudis.net might have some information (but you'll need a VPN to access this one. If you don't know what a VPN is here's an explanation).

Are you multilingual? If you need money but working is restricted to you then you can try becoming an online language tutor on sites like italki.com (scroll to the bottom). This post and related subreddits like r/WorkOnline may help.

Note: some exmuslims in Muslim countries fall for the doomscrolling hyperbole and think Europe is “doomed” with too many Muslims. They have a tendency of asking which country is best to migrate to as an exmuslim to avoid Islam. Please ignore the doomsayers and prioritise the country you choose based on ease of access and career opportunities. As long as it is a secular country, you can worry about avoiding Islam later.

Final stuff

Shout out to Imtiaz Shams who inspired me to make this list of tips. He has his own YouTube Channel here and plans to make his own video on this subject matter so watch out for that. On a side note, I also recommend TheraminTrees YouTube Channel who delves a lot into toxic dysfunctional families from the perspective of a therapist. A lot of his content helps in dealing with the emotional impact of leaving religion and dealing with a religious family. And finally, thank you to the moderators of r/exmuslim who suggested I make this into a post. I wound up adding a lot more content lol.

I will end this post with a list of subreddits that may help you on your journey leaving Islam:

Ex related subreddits

Other Useful Subreddits


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Question/Discussion) The UK is absolutely ruined

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I am a Pakistani ex-Muslim atheist who currently lives in London. I want to share some of my experiences I have had in the UK.
1- I used to live in a student accommodation and the person at the reception didn’t know that I had left Islam. He assumed that I was a Muslim and we started talking about Islam and Sharia Law. He defended Sharia Law and cutting the hands of thieves, saying that these were laws given by God.
2- I have a friend in London who is quite liberal. She got her education from a good university and doesn’t even wear the Hijab. I was debating with her on apostasy laws and pressed her on this issue. The conversation ended with her supporting the death penalty for apostasy even though she knew herself that I was an apostate.
3- I am currently doing a tech job, and my boss was talking about religion. I asked him if he believes in secularism, and he said that he doesn’t and wants Islam to be made the state religion.
In summary, the UK is absolutely ruined. The barbarians are inside the gates by the millions and most Brits are still too stupid to see it. London currently is 15% Muslim and I can’t imagine how awful things will get as it becomes more and more like Bradford and Birmingham. I see absolutely no future to raise my children in this country, and I really want to move to Czechia. Its percentage of Muslims is 0.1% and it is extremely secular. I was born in Pakistan, and I escaped that Islamic sewer, but the UK is becoming just like that.


r/exmuslim • • 4h ago

(Question/Discussion) As it seems, a lot of people are being sentenced to death for blasphemy... It feels like a movement everywhere it can happen to silence people

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As I said ... In the article it says there are a number of people facing the same thing there.

Everywhere the Sharia law is present, people are getting killed for "blasphemy" (not just that but also more crimes defined by Sharia laws)

Yes this happened a lot since this virus "islam" attacked humanity but this is more prevalent, or maybe talked about more now more than before. Either way, wtf.

On that note, f-ck your mimo and your allah. I hope good people that believe in this fucktard just wake the hell up.

Also if there is someone that can confirm that, tell us if there are any updates...


r/exmuslim • • 20m ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 they never see women as people

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r/exmuslim • • 4h ago

(Rant) 🤬 I hate greeting people with salam! 😡 I hate wearing burqa and hijab! 😡 I hate LARPing as a muslim! 😡

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I hate greeting people like relatives, seniors, teachers, and everyone with salam!

I HATE wearing burqa and hijab! I hate how burqa and hijab make women look demure and submissive! 🤬🤬

I want to wear button-down shirts and pants and try so many different outfits but I can't!

I hate the fact that I have to LARP as a muslim and say arabic greetings, du'as, and InshaAllah, MashaAllah, Alhamdulillah occasionally to appear as a practicing muslim! 😡

Cause we all know how dangerous openly renouncing Islam in muslim countries can be!


r/exmuslim • • 1h ago

(Miscellaneous) This is disgusting

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The fact that in America kids of Muslim parents are wearing burkas are absolutely vile. WTF clearly these kids can’t be kids. I don’t understand why the left glazes them so much so they ALLOW shit like this. I’m just disturbed that this is happening IN America. Islam should’ve died A LONG time ago.


r/exmuslim • • 15h ago

(Question/Discussion) How can Israel & Palestine make peace when there's a "divine" prophecy about killing jews 🤦‍♀️

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???


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Quran / Hadith) WQV 78: A blind man interrupts Allah's revelation so Allah changes the verse

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r/exmuslim • • 5h ago

(Rant) 🤬 the muslim marriage scene is crazy

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i’m already married but i’m always interested to see what the muslim community is up to especially on reddit. honestly at this point it’s become a reminder of how lucky my husband and i are to have each other. i know the dating/relationship scene in general is really awful, most things are superficial and transactional. but more specifically, the muslim marriage requirements people have really just stop them from having a happy marriage or a compatible partner. it feels like they post in these subreddits just to argue with others.

i feel more for muslim women, islam already keeps them down and their potentials are looking for slaves that are 10/10 looks wise because of their addiction to porn. the woman can’t have even a talking stage on her resume without being called every name in the book. don’t get me wrong, the expectations placed on men are harsh too but by default islam/muslim marriage dynamics a man is always the bigger benefactor. for one, his past is usually forgiven because “he was just a young guy who had needs”. for two, a woman is most likely gonna do all the house work and take care of the million children they had. god forbid their wife asks to change a diaper or to babysit their own kid so she can go out to dinner with friends. shit, when he gets bored he’ll go out and get another wife behind her back. i’ll admit that the salary expectations muslim women have are ridiculous at times. like take a look at the economy. i was criticized for asking for 10k as my mehr when i got married to my husband. again, these people block good men and women from coming into their lives because of these expectations we’re told to have.

honestly sometimes i wanna comment on these people’s post and tell them to go outside every once in a while. a date or two to figure out what you like isn’t gonna damn you to hell💀 but then i feel for their date having to deal with someone like them even if it is for a few hours.


r/exmuslim • • 9h ago

(Advice/Help) I wanna dress slutty so bad 😭😭😭

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This might be one of rhe minor complaints but I really just wanna dress free. Since i was in middle school, my mom has been controlling how I dress. She always makes me wear some fugly ass floral patterns. She's sooo old fashioned. I have no freedom to wear what I actually want. I'm wasting my youth 😭😭😭😭 I wanna wear crop tops and miniskirts and low cut tops and show off my boobs. I just wanna be FREE and show off some SKIN. I hate that I'm so dependent on my family and didn't get away sooner. I'm in my mid 20s now and the opportunity for me to be young and carefree is going away quickly. I've never worn a bikini or swam in the ocean. Just think about that. I just wanna be free from all these constraints. If i have to wear hijab one more time before I go out I'll EXPLODE!!!


r/exmuslim • • 15h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Who is she kidding by claiming there is some feminism in islam 🙄

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She says this bs while wearing western clothing, most likely sitting in a western country, speaking western language, enjoying all the perks those "western feminists" have gotten her who she is shitting on, if it wasn't for that she would be covered in burka, forced into marriage, not allowed to leave house without male guardian let alone share her opinion online, etc i just can't with these women 🙄


r/exmuslim • • 1h ago

(Quran / Hadith) Islam, Dogs, and Paradox

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In islam, dogs are evil, they are from satan and the black dogs should even be .k*.

BUT ! Dogs can be used for protecting a muslim household.

So, it turns out that since dogs are from satan and yet they can be used to protect muslims, allah allows satan to protect muslims (!!!)

Tbh, I'm not surprised, there are many verses where allah share the same qualities with satan, so it's actually the same entity.

Muhammad's schizophrenia at its finest


r/exmuslim • • 7h ago

(Advice/Help) I’m terrified of sex

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I’m in university now and sex is a normal part of life. everyone talks about it but even talking about it makes me so uncomfortable.

i’m terrified of ever having sex it’s not even just a “waiting till marriage thing” I feel like growing up Islam scared me so much from sex my entire body has a reaction to the thought of it. I’ve tried pleasuring myself but even a single finger hurts, I can’t put it in all the way and my entire body tenses up. I feel like this will affect my relationships in the future very much. I always end up ghosting people before we get serious because I am so fucking scared of intimacy. I feel like i’d rather get shot or something than have a dick go in me 😭

is there any advice you can give me? especially women? i live at home still. im scared to use any toys and im also kinda too poor to get professional help. all my money right now is going towards my education because that is my only way out of my very religious family.

recently I distanced myself from a boy i really liked and he was so sweet and kind. but i was so scared i wouldn’t be able to give him everything. i really want to fix my fear of sex. people don’t deserve to be hurt over my religious trauma


r/exmuslim • • 3h ago

(Rant) 🤬 They keep threatening me with hell and promising me heaven. What's the point of praying if afterlife doesn't exist?

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%20%F0%9F%A4%AC%22)My mother said that hell do really exist, "it's in the quran", i could made things up as well.

I'm not interested in heaven, 72 virgins sounds odd, eternal bliss doesn't sound right to me, plus i'm afraid of eternity.

Genuinely what's the of praying if afterlife doesn't exist, it's honestly pointless, wastes time, and i have other things that i actually enjoy in life. I'm really tired of doing 5 nonsense rituals a day, it really has no purpose. How long do i have to keep up the act? I just want to be free.


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Miscellaneous) Muslims not eating pork

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I feeling sorry for Muslims because they can’t eat pork. It’s the best meat product to eat. A pulled pork sandwich is good.


r/exmuslim • • 8h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Here are 50 fallacies around Islam

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Here are 51 fallacies common around Islam / apologists use

  1. Begging the question - The Quran is the word of God because it says so, and God exists because the Quran says so. The claim validates itself with no independent evidence.
  2. Appeal to antiquity - The text is 1400 years old therefore it is true or authoritative. Age does not equal truth.
  3. Appeal to authority - Muhammad is the "perfect model" (Quran 33:21) therefore his actions are moral benchmarks regardless of what those actions are.
  4. Special pleading - Prophets are exempt from the moral standards the Quran applies to everyone else. Muhammad's marriages, the raid on Khaybar, the execution of the Banu Qurayza — all justified by his prophetic status.
  5. Circular reasoning - The Quran is divine because it claims divine origin; divine origin is true because the Quran claims it. No external verification is permitted.
  6. Appeal to fear - Eternal punishment for doubt, apostasy, or leaving the faith (Quran 4:137, Hadith: "whoever changes his religion kill him"). The threat of punishment replaces evidence.
  7. Appeal to consequences - If you reject Islam, society collapses, morality vanishes, you go to hell. The feared outcome is used as a reason to accept the claim.
  8. Appeal to ignorance - The origin of the Quran is unknown or "miraculous" therefore it must be divine. Absence of a natural explanation is treated as proof of a supernatural one.
  9. Argument from ignorance (reverse) - "No one can produce a chapter like the Quran" is used as proof of divine authorship, but inability to explain something is not evidence for a specific explanation.
  10. Is-ought fallacy - The Quran describes a practice (wife-beating 4:34, slavery 23:5-6, sex with captives) therefore that practice is morally correct. Description is not prescription — except when the text claims to be perfect guidance.
  11. Naturalistic fallacy - What is stated in the text as God's command is therefore good by definition. "God says it" is substituted for "it is good."
  12. Sanctity fallacy - Because the Quran is sacred, its claims are beyond scrutiny. Sacredness is a property of social reverence, not a proof of factual accuracy.
  13. Appeal to the person (ad verecundiam) - Muhammad's character, his illiteracy, or his moral example are cited as proof of his prophethood rather than the claims being evaluated on their own merits.
  14. Appeal to revelation - Personal spiritual experience (feeling the truth of Islam, a dream, a sense of peace) is used as evidence that the text is divine. Subjective experience is not verifiable evidence.
  15. False dilemma - Either you accept Muhammad as the final prophet and the Quran as perfect, or you reject God entirely. There is no middle ground allowed, which forecloses the option that the text is human-authored and partially useful.
  16. Moving goalposts - When a scientific error or historical problem is pointed out (embryology copied from Galen, the moon-splitting had no record), the response shifts: "it is metaphorical," "you are reading it wrong," "the Arabic is deeper." The goal posts move every time a critique lands.
  17. No true Scotsman - "Real Islam" would never have child marriage, slavery, or violence; the problematic texts are the work of cultural context or misinterpretation — while simultaneously claiming the text is eternal and perfect.
  18. Straw man - Critics are portrayed as Islamophobic, colonialist, or prejudiced rather than engaging the specific textual evidence. This deflects the argument without addressing it.
  19. Texas sharpshooter - Cherry-picking verses that appear to align with modern science (embryology, expanding universe) while ignoring the vast majority of the text that is scientifically wrong, historically problematic, or morally indefensible.
  20. Confirmation bias - Interpreting any positive event (recovery from illness, a good outcome) as divine approval of Islam, while ignoring negative events or attributing them to tests of faith.
  21. Affirming the consequent - "If Islam is true, believers will be prosperous. Muslims are prosperous. Therefore Islam is true." The consequent does not prove the antecedent.
  22. False cause (post hoc) - A person prayed and recovered from illness; therefore prayer caused the recovery. Correlation mistaken for causation, with divine agency assumed.
  23. Hasty generalization - One personal experience of a kind Muslim or one successful Muslim-majority country is used as evidence that Islam as a system is true or beneficial.
  24. Survivorship bias - Pointing to the Golden Age of Islam while ignoring the centuries of stagnation, internal warfare, and failed states that also occurred under Islamic governance.
  25. Appeal to tradition - "It has been practiced for 1400 years" is used as a reason to continue the practice. Longevity of a practice is not a proof of its correctness.
  26. Appeal to popularity (bandwagon) - "Billions of Muslims believe it" is used as evidence of truth. The number of believers has no bearing on whether a claim is factually correct.
  27. Tu quoque - "Christianity/Judaism has problems too" is used to deflect from criticism of Islam. The existence of problems elsewhere does not excuse specific problems in the current system.
  28. Red herring - When textual criticism gets strong, the conversation shifts to Western imperialism, Islamophobia, or the crimes of non-Muslims. The original argument is abandoned.
  29. Poisoning the well - Ex-Muslims are labeled apostates, traitors, or Islamophobes before their evidence is even heard. The source is attacked to invalidate the argument without engaging it.
  30. Loaded question - "Why does Islam permit wife-beating?" presupposes the premise is true and frames the respondent as having to defend it, rather than questioning the premise itself.
  31. Equivocation - The word "peace" in Islam is used to mean both personal spiritual peace (salam) and political submission (the root of Islam itself), then switching between those meanings depending on the audience.
  32. Special exemption fallacy - God can do anything, including commanding things that would be immoral if a human did them. The omnipotence of God is used as a blanket exemption from moral consistency.
  33. God-of-the-gaps - "The Quran mentions things science did not know at the time" — when a natural explanation is later found, the claim shifts to "the Quran was always metaphorically correct" rather than admitting the literal claim was wrong.
  34. Sunk cost fallacy - "I have practiced Islam for 20 years / my family has for generations — it cannot be wrong, so I must keep believing." The investment of time and identity is used as a reason to continue believing rather than evaluating the evidence.
  35. Appeal to purity - "This is the uncorrupted, original Islam" — used to dismiss criticism by claiming the problem is with cultural Islam, not "real" Islam, despite the text itself containing the problematic material.
  36. False equivalence - "The Quran elevated women's rights in the 7th century" — treating incremental historical improvement as evidence of timeless moral truth, rather than a product of its time.
  37. Composition fallacy - The Quran has literary beauty in Arabic therefore the entire content is divine. Aesthetic quality in one dimension is used to validate truth claims across all dimensions.
  38. Division fallacy - What is true of the Muslim community as a whole (some are wealthy, some are moral) is assumed to be true of every individual Muslim or every aspect of the doctrine.
  39. False analogy - Comparing Islamic governance to modern democratic systems as if they share compatible premises, when one is based on divine command and the other on popular sovereignty and human rights.
  40. Appeal to the sword - Historical military conquest is used as evidence of divine backing. "Islam spread by the sword" is simultaneously used as a proof of divine truth (God made it succeed) and denied as a problem (it was just political).
  41. Burden reversal - The critic is told to "prove Islam is false" rather than the claimant providing positive evidence it is true. The burden of proof is shifted to the person challenging the claim.
  42. Infinite regress shield - "Who created God? God is uncaused." The exemption given to God (that it does not need a cause) is not applied to the universe itself, which is a special pleading move.
  43. Texas double-barrel - Combining "the Quran is perfect" with "it can only be properly understood in Arabic" to shut down translation-based critiques. You cannot critique the translation, and you cannot critique the Arabic if you do not read it.
  44. Contextomy (quote mining) - Isolating verses from their historical context to make them support a modern claim, while ignoring the surrounding verses and the Prophet's actual biography that gives those verses their original meaning.
  45. Adulatory fallacy - Because the Quran contains some ethically progressive elements (charity, care for orphans, anti-usury) the entire text must be morally sound. Partial goodness does not validate the whole.
  46. Definitional retreat - When a verse is clearly problematic (wife-beating, slavery, sex with captives), the definition of the terms is retroactively changed ("it means gentle guidance," "it means regulated emancipation") rather than admitting the plain reading.
  47. Appeal to inimitability (i'jaz) - The Quran's literary inimitability is used as proof of divine authorship. But inimitability is an aesthetic judgment, not a logical proof, and "I cannot write like this" is not evidence of divine origin.
  48. Genetic fallacy - The Quran is true because it has been perfectly preserved (the Uthmanic codex). Preservation of a text preserves the text, not the truth claims it contains.
  49. Appeal to the unseen - The afterlife (houris, paradise, hell) is used as motivation for compliance and as a reward/punishment system, but the existence of the afterlife is itself the unproven claim being used to justify the system.
  50. Prooftexting - Using isolated verses or hadith fragments to justify a position while ignoring the broader corpus that contradicts or limits them. Every verse becomes a proof text for whatever the apologist needs it to prove at that moment.
  51. Historical relativism - "It was acceptable in its time" is used to shield practices (slavery, child marriage, wife-beating) from moral scrutiny, treating historical normativity as a substitute for ethical evaluation.

r/exmuslim • • 4h ago

(Question/Discussion) Why do Arabs say the 'strike your wife' paragraph is gentle knowing full well what it means?

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Aggression builds. You think after giving her the silent treatment, banishing her from the bedroom, making her feel emotionally effed up, a tap or a gentle shake is going to make her obey a man?

Firstly, aggression builds. A tap or a shake makes no sense as a tap won't force anyone into obeying.

Secondly, you should never touch anyone out of negative emotion in the first place , not even a tap.

Thirdly, what about the husbands that disobey? What is he is bad and steals, gambles, commits adultery or disobeys you as a husband?

There is nothing written about that. It is all about making the wife obey the man.

This passage is violent. Islam is not a religion of peace.


r/exmuslim • • 1h ago

(Question/Discussion) Am I a bad friend for wanting a new start after I'll take the hijab off?

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I was talking with my muslim hijabi religious friend about uni, and when I said where I wanted to go she said she'll be going there too, laughing she said that it would be beautiful to live together there (there aren't a lot of dorms so most people rent together) and I laughed about it but she was serious and happy about the idea.

The thing is, this uni is 1 hour away, and I was so happy to go there because it's far away from my parents and I'll have taken of the hijab finally, but I don't wanna still be friend with her, not because I hate her but let me explain.

She's religious and feels closer to me because I'm a hijabi, she knows who my father is, her parents know my dad so they are okay with anything she would do if thers me, for example living together, because they think I'm the pious hijabi daughter of my iman father who probably raised me to be a good girl, and I HATE that, because i was so happy to be in another city without the hijab, dressing how I want.

About this friend, I think if she'll see me taking it off she'll be disappointed, and won't react well to me dressing not modest.

We're in a trio btw, and the 3rd isn't a hijabi.

Also I don't know if i'm muslim, I feel weird, and having someone who keeps thinking you're muslim just ruins everything, I can't even say to her my feelings.

And I wouldn't change uni for this.

Anyway about living together isn't something I'll do because I don't have the money, so the problem isn't that, but the fact that she'll still be there, and I can't quit her out of nowhere.

I just think after taking it off I'll already pass through a bad time knowing my dad's reaction so I don't want more people being "disappointed" and changing because of a decision.

We're not even close close friends, we never go out together, we're more school friends.

She said she still doesn't know what to study, but I hope not the same major as me,we still have 1,5 years left.

I just want to start a new life, I don't care about friends.

Am I doing something wrong? I feel like I'm the bad person here


r/exmuslim • • 1h ago

(Rant) 🤬 I hate abayas 🤬

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I fucking hate being forced to wear an abaya. It’s too long too uncomfortable and feel like I can’t express myself wearing it.
I can’t even move freely while wearing it, I hate how it’s the default standard for modesty (not that I really care about that).
Because why the fuck is a woman slut shamed for having autonomy over her own body.


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Quran / Hadith) Does Allah have a personality of His own?? I mean, psychologically.

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Every fucking time I compare Allah's personality in the Quran with Muhammad's personality in the Hadith, they're always the same. The patterns are the same. Nothing changes-not even the details.


r/exmuslim • • 5h ago

(Rant) 🤬 every time muslims say “peace be upon him”, muhammad gets 0.1 second of relief from hellfire

7 Upvotes

why do they even need to say “PBUH” ?


r/exmuslim • • 13h ago

(Video) Why is it often the women who deny the verse of the 72 virgins

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This is what the captions say “The Qur'an does not list gendered rewards for Jannah.
It does not say men get "70 virgins."
That number is not in the Qur'an - it comes from debated narrations and later exaggerations that culture amplified.
What is mentioned repeatedly in the Qur'an is this:
Believers - men and women - will have whatever their souls desire.
Peace. Fulfillment. Joy. Justice. Nearness to Allah.
Women are not an afterthought in the Hereafter.
Their reward is not lesser, hidden, or dependent on men.
Allah speaks to human souls, not male fantasies.
If a claim about Jannah reduces women or glorifies desire over righteousness,
pause — because the Qur'an didn't say that.”


r/exmuslim • • 10m ago

(Rant) 🤬 Honest opinion on parents forcing religion down our throats

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I get that a lot of people who left Islam end up despising their parents for trying to force religion down their throats, either by just talking to them or including them in religious activities & festivities.
But on the other hand, I also get the parents, they are just trying to do what they believe is best for you. Keep in mind, they actually believe whatever nonsense they are spewing.
I figured the best approach is to stay closeted, it avoids conflict and also heartache for the parents.
Yeah it does suck having to put up with the festivities and going to the mosque when they want you to do so, but I guess a sweet lie here makes more sense than the harsh truth.
Because face it, you’ll probably never end up convincing them that it’s a bunch of horseshit, and at the same time they probably will never convince you to go back.
As long as it’s coming from a place of love, I’m fine with continuing to pretend


r/exmuslim • • 8h ago

(Question/Discussion) Will it be safe to contact the unhcr office in Saudi Arabia?

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I was planning to contact them, but i just realised that alot of them would be Muslim and they're not going to help me, and it might even be dangerous