r/pcmasterrace • • 7d ago

News/Article “Nobody wants Copilot”: Microsoft pauses Copilot on Windows 11’s taskbar to “incorporate your feedback," as Microslop backlash continues

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/10/07/nobody-wants-copilot-microsoft-pauses-copilot-on-windows-11s-taskbar-to-incorporate-your-feedback/
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u/gamerrominc 7d ago

I disabled the AI be and all ai functions via group policy and my PC runs faster now

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u/Macaron-kun 7d ago edited 7d ago

Copilot was just never added to my PC at all. I disabled Cortana on day 1, so I definitely wouldn't like Copilot if it found its way onto my PC.

Every now and then when I start my PC I get the "Finish setting up your PC" with the Office 365 and Copilot stuff and I just press "Later."

Still never had AI forced onto my computer and I'd like to keep it that way.

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u/gamerrominc 7d ago

Oh it's forced now they install it and even if you click that later button they just liecto you in a way to make u feel better

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u/Macaron-kun 7d ago

I haven't seen Copilot anywhere on my PC. It never pops up, it's not in Word, nothing.

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u/mtnbike2 7d ago

Consider yourself lucky and never update windows

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u/Macaron-kun 7d ago

I actually update Windows plenty and it's still never forced itself onto my system.

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u/Bludypoo 7d ago

i update windows literally every time it asks. i don't have copilot or one drive. You people don't know how to work your computers.

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u/HomicidalRaccoon 9950X3D | 96GB | 5090 7d ago

Thanks, pcmasterrace seems to have a computer literacy problem as of late, along with a constant bitching problem.

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 7d ago

along with a constant bitching problem.

But I thought that was the whole reason for Reddit's existence! /s

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 6d ago

never update windows

I swear, the average IQ of redditors has got to be in the negatives at this point.

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u/Nubanuba RTX 4080 | R7 9700X | 32GB | OLED 7d ago

Open search bar and type copilot

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u/Macaron-kun 7d ago

I think I've done that before and it just gave me internet results. It's nowhere to be seen.

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u/Gloomy_Onion2512 7d ago

Well done, I am always having to remove shit I’ve already removed after the forced updates. Linux calls my name

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u/___po____ Laptop 7d ago

I did a factory reset on my laptop and it was added with that. Edge is also now integrated or whatever into Windows for all the webview stuff.

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u/Silverr_Duck 7d ago

Every now and then when I start my PC I get the "Finish setting up your PC" with the Office 365 and Copilot stuff and I just press "Later."

I love the tactics those worms at Microsoft use of to trick people to buy their bullshit. “Finish setting up” implies there’s some essential component that’s missing from the OS. Reminds me of when apps will say “permission required” to get me to give the app unfettered access to my location.

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u/jbrunsonfan 7d ago

It’s “later” instead of “no” or “decline” so they can keep asking too.

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u/ProfSnipe 5080/9800X3D/64GB DDR5 - 6000 7d ago

Eh, I wouldn't say that's the worst one, android and iOS also have the same wording for trivial things that you didn't set up. And it will leave you alone eventually or you can ignore it.

What I really hate in Microsoft's case is the options they give you, they are like "set up" or "remind me in 3 days" or something like that. How about a fucking no and never ask me again option?

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u/StrangeCalibur 6d ago

Be careful. I noticed this too…. Turns out my windows 11 is stuck update wise and is about to go out of support….

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u/Itchy-Ambition-1171 7d ago

How do I do that?

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u/Some1ToDisagreeWith 7d ago

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u/Andrewsarchus 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MTS CL30 | Sapphire Pure 9070XT 7d ago

How does one verify safety of things on GitHub?

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u/Some1ToDisagreeWith 7d ago

I don't have a great answer but I look at the stars, the discussion section, and the profile of the person who made it. Someone might know more than me.

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u/Andrewsarchus 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MTS CL30 | Sapphire Pure 9070XT 7d ago

This sounds like a very good starting point, since the other options are "read the code" and that's not really up my alley.

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u/vertigostereo RTX 3060, AMD 5700X, & RGB! 6d ago

Just ask Copilot to read the code!

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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago

I'll sometimes check to see if there's discussion by people using the project on Reddit too.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 5800X3D | 32GB 3200CL14 | 6950 XT 7d ago

"I look at the stars" I 100% expected a joke about horoscopes and alchemical mixtures being used to divine the future lol

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u/AnarchBeetle 7d ago

“I look at the entrails of a pigeon to divine if my pc will shit itself and I sacrifice cattle to Windows Defender whenever I torrent something” this would still be an upgrade over how some of my friends treat their pcs

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u/iUndef Desktop 7d ago

It sucks when you want to check the authenticity of some software but you live in a city with bad light pollution 😞

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u/nanotree 7d ago

You could always ask Copilot 😆

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u/Andrewsarchus 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MTS CL30 | Sapphire Pure 9070XT 7d ago edited 7d ago

Oooh that's a GREAT idea! 😂

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u/DomainFurry 7d ago

You can read the script if you know PowerShell.. I use it at work it's not too crazy removes a bunch of preinstalled apps and disables telemetry and a few other bad things like fast startup.

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u/bogglingsnog 7800x3d, B650M Mortar, 64GB DDR5, RTX 3070 7d ago

fast startup is such a useless feature in the era of M.2 SSD's!

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u/YouKilledApollo CachyOS | Threadripper 9970X | RTX Pro 6000 7d ago

Or TRX50 boards that takes minutes to boot regardless of what you do, might as well stream my OS boot from Kazakhstan via modem.

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u/HistoricalFunion 7d ago

Claude code is the best to do that

Hey Claude, can you check to make sure there isn't anything bad or malicious in this github source I downloaded?

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u/NapsterKnowHow 7d ago

VirusTotal and check the rules and virtual machine behavior.

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u/Zan_in_NZ 7d ago

well just do the standard stuff you would to try to confirm anything you are downloading , use google . you tube , reddit, and AI to learn more about reputation of the program you are trying to grab from github. once you have visited enough of the regular sources you should see if they are directing you to the same link that is the correct program and that they feel its safe enough to risk a download. the link posted above looks like the correct one to me , but its always good to have a look around first to double check. e.g some one could upload ''wwin11debloat ''but use two ww's in the title to fool you etc.

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u/Anarchistcowboy420 Linux - Arch, Debian 7d ago

Typically by reading the code. You can also download binaries (.Exe, .Apk) and upload them into virus total, or just paste the github link into chatgpt.

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u/Andrewsarchus 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MTS CL30 | Sapphire Pure 9070XT 7d ago

The last time I looked at any code was early 2000s Java, I guess CGBT is the best bet for me then. So I would just send the link to chatgpt and ask if any code is malicious? Thats crazy!

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u/Anarchistcowboy420 Linux - Arch, Debian 7d ago

Yeah ai is pretty good with code.

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u/gamerrominc 7d ago

I used ntlite to make it a.policy but I also used Tiny11 as a base to make edits so. I can add 26H2 and disabled the.ai via in it that what I do so when I install windows all that stuff can't get enabled even through updates, you can create group policies for your PC already but I find using ntlite to do it is much easier

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u/Disastrous_Olive_920 7d ago

you can use this too: O&O ShutUp10, very easy to make tweaks with to disable whichever unnecessary components you don't like (with recommendations and warnings and such)

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u/Business-Bad-1546 7d ago

Amaze amaze amaze

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u/arex333 Ryzen 5800X3D/RTX 4070 Ti 7d ago

👎

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u/asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy 9800x3D, 9070XT, 32GB DDR5 6000mhz 7d ago

I installed the IoT LTSC version of Win11 so I don't have to do any of this in the first place.

I COULD switch to Linux, but I don't want to.

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u/TheSadman13 7d ago

is this a W11-slop thing or do you have to be worried on W10 and older too?

I'm only asking because these "features" don't ask for permission/opt-in, so no way of knowing who's affected

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u/Novotus_Ketevor Ryzen 9900X | RTX 5060 Ti | 128 GB DDR5 7d ago

I have a Copilot+PC because I wanted an ultralight PC with 5G and all day battery life. They wanted me to get a Copilot+PC to use AI.

Jokes on them because I stripped out all their telemetry and AI. Now the device is basically just a Moonlight client to access my gaming PC and workstations.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 7d ago

Me too, but this article is clickbait garbage.

Microsoft hasn’t shared what that feedback was but going by how people react every time Copilot shows up somewhere new in Windows 11, I can make a guess.

So the title of the article isn't factual or sourced (most, who just read titles, will assume it because it's in quotes). Is it true? Maybe! But it's just one person's guess and hot take, and they spend paragraphs iterating the same single point over and over.

The actual announcement contains no such reporting of user feedback. Just a few bullet points. The only one salient to this "Microsoft Bad" clickbait is:

As we implement these changes, we're temporarily disabling Ask Copilot on the taskbar to update the new experience and incorporate your feedback.

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u/GrafDracul PC Master Race 7d ago

I disabled Windows and moved to Macos for work and Linux for gaming. I see Apple is also slowly starting to push AI slop but not at the rate as Microslop did it and not so obnoxious.

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u/AppropriateTouching 7d ago

Same, it takes a little bit of work to root it out but man is it worth the time.

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u/Vaeon 7d ago

Literally the only time I activate that shit is when I accidentally hit the key they installed on my keyboard.

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u/WPHero 7d ago

my friend remapped the key to run a powershell script that uninstalls copilot everytime the button is clicked accidentally lool

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u/Repulsive-Durian4800 7d ago

That's more elegant than my solution, which was to pop the key cap off with a butter knife.

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u/TemptedTemplar i7-8700k@5Ghz, 64GB 3ghz CL15 7d ago

You can use PowerToys from the Microsoft store just permanently remap the key to a different function.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Any_Conflict_5092 7d ago

I just buy mechanical keyboards - so the whole key switch can be removed, and then my keyboard has a pirate smile. Which makes me laugh, so I don't actually fix it.

Remapping would be prettier, but sometimes, I just wanna be a pirate, ya know?

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u/Faranae 4790K |1080 QHD| 32GB 7d ago

I did this to my Caps lock button lol. It's nice having an extra Shift in pinky finger range for my small-ass hands. xD

Powertoys really is the GOAT. So many useful (and mostly lightweight) tools.

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u/Vaeon 7d ago

You need to buy that person a cold drink.

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u/aoifeobailey 7d ago

Shit, someone send me the script and his ko-fi and I'll buy him a cold drink xD

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u/UGD_ReWiindz25 7d ago

This guys friend scripts!!

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u/veevoir 5700X3D||rx9070||32GB of sound financial investment 7d ago

That is a very fair counter to windows update sneakily reinstalling or reenabling bloat/spyware features

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u/Bl4ckb100d Bazzite | 5600X | Intel ARC B580 12GB | 32GB RAM 7d ago

I remapped it as a Steam key, like Copilot+L = opens the steam library

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u/Vaeon 7d ago

Oh, sweeet!

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u/CommentsOnOccasion 7d ago

Yeah thanks for removing my fucking right CTRL key Microsoft

The large defense company I work for doesn’t let us download PowerShell so I just have a dead key on my keyboard where I used to use it for actual functions 

Stupidest fucking thing since the NETFLIX button on remotes…

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u/Vaeon 7d ago

Hi, I just graduated with a degree in Consumer Satisfaction! Is there any way I can make your life more difficult and less enjoyable? No issue is too small for me to fuck up for you!

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u/imaginary_num6er 7950X3D|4090FE|64GB|X670E-E 7d ago

That’s where you install Microsoft Powertoys since it’s only purpose is to remap the Coplilot key

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u/sibips 7d ago

It's not enough, if you Rdp to other machines the remapping doesn't work.

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u/Rodeo9 7d ago

For me its win + c which SUCKS because I mostly use a mac which is the shortcut for copy and paste, then it takes 5 seconds to load before trying to get me login to some BS and quit it. No more windows for me, cachy has been great.

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u/poorkid_5 Ryzen 7 5800x3d | EVGA 3080 12GB FTW3 | 32GB RAM 3600Mhz | Win10 7d ago

I went hunting for used gaming laptops specifically to avoid that fuckass copilot button.

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u/Ministrelle 7d ago

Ah yes, nobody wants the shitty AI that can't even keep conversation context across 2 messages ... I wonder why.

User: Hey, what does this error code mean? <error code>

Copilot: It means this and that. You should do this and that.

User: Ok, I did this and that but it didn't work, what now?

Copilot: It seems like you are having problems with your Code. Please send me the error code so I can help you.

User: I literally send you the error code 2 messages ago!

Copilot: Ah, you're right. It means this and that. You should do this and that.

User: I already did that.

This shit has worse memory than a fruit fly with Alzheimer.

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u/Crodface 7d ago

"You're absolutely right! My mistake."

...are you just agreeing with whatever I say now?

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u/ShallowBasketcase CoolerMasterRace 7d ago

You're absolutely right, that's exactly what I'm doing!

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u/Safety_Drance 7d ago

You're right to push back on that. Please send me the error code so I can help.

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 7d ago

That's why executives love these chatbots so much. They glaze like no tomorrow.

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u/Saint_of_Grey 7d ago

It'd be impossible to run locally otherwise.

All modern chatbots can't do memory at all. When you send a message, the back end has to send them the entire conversation, which they need to process in its entirety, before responding. This quickly becomes a very heavy processing load, but they are utterly useless if this isn't done.

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u/Grays42 Steam ID Here 7d ago

All modern chatbots can't do memory at all. When you send a message, the back end has to send them the entire conversation, which they need to process in its entirety, before responding

Sort of, they use sliding windows now. It keeps your conversation history warm, so it does have context slip when the context is massive but doesn't need to re-scan the entire conversation history again.

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u/PickledPaste 7d ago

This has actually been solved by prompt caching. Claude launched it in late 24 and everyone has copied. It basically scans the prompt for exact matches from prior prompts in the session and pulls the preprocessed memory in. Very helpful for agentic else you would be reading agents.md all the damn time

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u/mrjackspade 7d ago

Claude launched it in late 24 and everyone has copied

Claude's prompt caching was predated by Llama.cpp's prompt caching. Anthropic was implementing something that was already well spread through the ecosystem at the time and it's remarkable it took them as long as it did.

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u/DonutHoles4Ever Mac Heathen 6d ago

What the hell are you talking about?

I can run local models that have like 200k context. The biggest ones online have 1 million+ and memory to handle it for bigger stuff.

Co-pilot is shit, thats why nobody uses it.

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u/mtnbike2 7d ago

One time I asked Gemini if it would give me better answers if I subscribed to the paid version. It told me no.

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u/StopStealingMyAlias 7d ago

It's only barely better than Gemini

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u/cannibaltom Steam ID Here 7d ago

I've experienced this with Gemini too. Then it apologizes profusely and gives a partial answer.

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u/MrMoussab 7d ago

I wonder what kinda feedback they want. They shove copilot up everyone's throat and yet no one used it.

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u/AgtNulNulAgtVyf 7d ago

I've been giving feedback every time it pops up asking. The feedback is always "How do I get copilot to fuck off?"

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u/aVarangian 13600kf 7900xtx 2160 | 6600k 1070 1440 7d ago

nooo, Copilot on notepad.exe is a must have! I swear bro, please try it, pleaaaaase - Microslop

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u/puq2 7d ago

The fact that notepad had a remote code execution bug is wild. Why is a text editor that shouldn't have any network capabilities capable of getting hacked

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u/lianodel 7d ago

That specifically was my breaking point with Windows, and finally got me to switch to Linux for good. I know that doesn't work for everyone, but for me, it's been night and day.

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u/Ode1st 7d ago

“Make it work better.”

Pretty much why I don’t use AI, outside of the terrible impact of it. Whenever I end up resorting to checking to see if AI can solve whatever problem I’m having, it either very clearly and quickly doesn’t, or I get sucked into correcting it over and over as a sunk cost fallacy until it spits out the thing I need, which takes basically the same amount of time as it’d take me to do it myself.

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u/fuzzerino Steam ID Here 7d ago

I'm a heavy user of an unlimited Claude budget at work, but otherwise have been a pretty light user in my personal life, Opus 5.5 finally made me cave and buy a sub this month, its probably the first model where I'm actually impressed on average by what it can do and how it reasons, and its nowhere near as sycophantic as the older models. The free stuff you get when you just make an account on chatgpt is not really comparable imo.

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u/Scared-Section-5108 7d ago

Out of all the AIs I have tried, Copilot was by far the worst especially at providing additional info I never asked for.

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u/-Crash_Override- 7d ago

Except for...you know...vast amounts of enterprise customers. It literally dominates the space.

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u/D0TC 7d ago

Get rid of it and give them RAM and GPU's back to the people that need them.

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u/dartdoug 6d ago

I got my first big boy coding gig working for a Fortune 100 company. On my first day, the IT Director introduced me to the team. Everyone seemed nice enough. We passed by a private office where an older guy was sitting smoking a cigarette and reading the newspaper. "This is Jerry. He designed the system you're going to be working on. If you have any questions you can go to Jerry because he knows the system inside and out."

I was seated in my cubicle and a couple of team members came by to give me the lay of the land. One of them said that Jerry was friends with the Director and he was being paid a lot of money as a consultant but he really didn't know the system so it was pointless to ask him anything.

I think it was my second day on the job when I ran an option from a menu and it immediately crashed:

Array index error in table INVEN22

I walked over to Jerry's office. He was puffing away and was reading the newspaper just like before. I asked him to come over to my terminal to help me diagnose the problem. He let out a big sigh and walked over to my cube. He looked at the screen and said "There's an array index error in table INVEN22"

And then Jerry turned and walked away.

Jerry was the first CoPilot.

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u/Salmonman4 7d ago

Only use it have found for it was in Excel. Makes it easier to find functions

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u/Mantergeistmann 7d ago

Yeah, "here's what I'm trying to do; fix this function" is a lot quicker and easier than "Google it, scroll past the irritating YouTube results, and hope someone in a forum a) asked the question, b) had the question successfully answered, and c) isn't blocked by my company's IT policy or behind a paywall."

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u/zgillet i7 12700K ~ PNY RTX 5070 12GB OC ~ 32 GB DDR5 RAM 7d ago

That's the issue I have - they made LLMs more valuable by making traditional internet search engines unusable.

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u/Tripwiring 7d ago

The assistant on my phone would set an alarm for me immediately and it worked well, so they replaced it with gemini which takes at least 10 seconds to understand what I'm even saying to it. It will eventually set the alarm, after talking to me way, way too much.

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u/MrDeeJayy Ryzen 7 5700X | AMD RX 6700 XT | DDR4-3200 32GB 7d ago

Yours is setting alarms? I had my assistant working perfectly fine with Home Assistant, and controlling all the lights in my house. One particular one my brother decided he'd name after his online persona, which is ambiguously pronounced.

The old assistant would have no issues listening to "Ok google, turn on <names> light", rain hail or shine it'd turn on the light in under 2 seconds.

Now with Gemini, I have to

- Be very VERY explicit about pronouncing the name of lights with an over-pronounced american accent (I'm australian, i have to pronounce "shah-nah" as "shay-nah" and things like that or it'll completely misunderstand me)

  • Have my phone unlocked (yeah, apparently gemini cant touch a bedroom light unless you unlock your phone. The old assistant never had this issue)
  • Pray that it actually understands what is being said to it. Most of the time it "doesnt understand" or acts like it has no connection to any smart home shit (including the one light that's setup directly on google home instead of via home assistant).

And specifically regarding alarms, its a crap shoot on whether it will set the alarm, or just tell me it set an alarm but in reality it "encountered an error" and won't say anything, instead confirming with complete confidence that the alarm was set, even when it wasn't.

Honestly, a complete and utter downgrade.

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u/Tripwiring 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's infuriating that they couldn't let us keep assistant as an option. But they need to tell their investors about the 200% increase in consumers opening their AI Slopware.

Your story is so aggravating. My Google home mini speaker stopped working after a software update and they don't make that model any more. Of course the new one costs four times what I paid for the Home Mini. It's all a crock of shit. I have so much contempt for this system I just got rid of the stupid fucking smart lights and smart speakers and I don't miss them.

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u/windsynths 7d ago

Search engines were going to shit long before llms came about. YouTube search is fucking god awful

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u/the2belo Asus ROG STRIX SCAR 16 5090 64GB DDR5 7d ago

d) isn't an answer from 2011

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u/Alexandratta AMD 5800X3D - Red Devil 6750XT 7d ago

Guess I've been using Excel too long, as I know the capabilities of the damn thing by heart at this point.

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u/fightingthefuckits 7d ago

I'm decent in Excel but if I can explain what I want it's often quicker at writing it than me, or, it can take a while working it out but I can do other things while it does. I've used it for doing mass formatting, for creating summary tabs linked to multiple other tabs. Basically, it's really good for stuff that is just busy work. It's also great for explaining formulas, so, if someone gives you a workbook and you're trying to decipher what they're trying to do, it can explain it pretty quickly.

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u/estrangedpulse 7d ago

“Find functions”? I’m using it to make
complex dashboards, project trackers and just to analyze the data. It’s incredible what it cansoc

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u/FirstDivision 7d ago

I don’t mind Copilot summaries of a giant email thread I was added to.

Especially when the end result is “not my fucking problem”.

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u/OddballChannels 7d ago

Translation: we'll pause it until the next cumulative update quietly turns it back on by default.

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u/gfewfewc 7d ago

The choices being "yes" and "ask me again later" is so fucking infuriating.

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u/Dashin5 PC Master Race 6d ago

Yeah. I need a "literally never" option

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u/papercut2008uk 6d ago

If I want to use AI I want it to be contained in 1 program that I choose to open and use.

This having it integrated into everything is getting ridiculous.

I don't use AI but I still want to be able to if I ever need to. I just don't want it all over the place and forced on me.

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u/Envy661 MRInvidian 6d ago

Its not a tool made fo general consumers. Its an enterprise tool that only AI tech bros actually care about, and should be on enterprise versions of the OS only. Otherwise, keep it confined to one place and let people use it if they want, or uninstall it if they don't. A lot like Cortana. The more MS forces users to do things, the more people will find workarounds to not have to.

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u/6890 https://imgur.com/a/hK3UKVi 6d ago

The problem is the economy is fucked.

The "customer" to Microsoft isn't really the users of their software. Its the Shareholders.

And Shareholders are drunk on this AI idea

So if Microsoft wants "customers" they need to sell to shareholders that their AI offering is growing. More users! More usage! More! Look at our growth

But its all fucked. They drive out the consumer. But shareholders are still fucking giddy. How?!

Because the economy is fucked! Its circular logic. They're all in on AI because the AI bubble is booming. If you invest your money elsewhere you're leaving money on the table. Why make 5% growth when you can make 10%?! When will the bubble pop? Who knows, but until then there's riches! Risk assessement? NOT IN MY HOUSE! CHOOCHOO

Like I don't consider myself an investment expert. I'm young, but not that young, and when I talk to economic folk about how fucked the risk on investment in America is right now they literally just shrug and tell me "well its the biggest market still". It is increasingly feeling like there's no adults in the room anymore.

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u/mixxituk 6d ago edited 6d ago

Remember when you moved the desktop button far far away and showed us mainly OneDrive

Remember when you hid the c drive 

Remember when you shoved ads in explorer

Remember when you took away the hyper fast file menu and replaced it with a confusing useless ribbon

Remember when you stopped us making local accounts

When when you got rid of our right click context menu for a piece of shit?

Remember when you tried to make us go all tablet controls

Remember when you tried to force us to only install store apps by default 

Remember when you forced us to use bing!

Remember when you actively fed us with malware on your search engines and store

Remember when you deleted our files

Remember when you took away most of the useful keyboard based controls in windows and forced us to reach for the mouse

Remember when you made us click through a hundred questions just to install

No thanks guys I think you lost any respect for me a long time ago, I'm happy living on kubuntu for months now

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u/SC_W33DKILL3R 7d ago

They should have just made it an app, with the options in the app to integrate it into other apps like Office.

I use the Claude app, use AI in VSCode etc… but I like to specifically pick what I install and how I like to use it.

Obviously they would be sued either way as including your own AI is like including Internet Explorer as default as the anti competitive nature of that.

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u/queen-adreena Linux 7d ago

You can tell they wanted the entire OS to be AI driven, but nobody wants to spend their evenings barking orders at a computer.

We like mice and keyboards, they work.

Problem is they can’t monetise that.

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u/socksockpaladin 7d ago

Actually funny story they did monetize mouse and keyboard OS it was called buying the OS lol. Just being obtuse, but damn. It's like every aspect of everything has to milk us for as much money as possible now.

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u/queen-adreena Linux 7d ago

Everyone wants a monthly subscription payment they can increase 20% every year for ever and ever…

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u/DreamsiclesPlz 9800x3D | 5080 | ZorinOS 7d ago

That’s fine with me, as long as our salaries grow to keep up with it (fucking LOL)

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u/inamination i5-8400 2.8Ghz | Palit GTX970 Jetstream | 12GB 7d ago

It's like having a middleman between me and my own computer, playing a game of telephone. No thanks.

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u/SC_W33DKILL3R 7d ago

Well that’s it really, they wanted to force AI into everything and then have people use AI rather than existing tools to operate their computer.

Then when people are too far in they start charging a monthly subscription much the way Office went.

Businesses overnight would be screwed, facing new monthly costs they would find hard to avoid.

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u/MiniGui98 PC Master Race 7d ago

How would an AI driven OS even work? I can't wrap my head around this madness

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u/AnarchBeetle 7d ago

Basically you throw your mouse and keyboard into garbage and speak into a mic to tell AI what you wanna do.

It’s like those futuristic movies where people talk to their computers. Except it’s not like talking to Jarvis. It’s like talking to a version of Jarvis that was dropped on his head a few times.

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u/zmz2 7d ago

Including their own AI in the OS is (legally) fine, Windows never stopped shipping with a browser included.

The anticompetitive practice was intentionally breaking competing browsers.

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u/Excalitoria 7d ago

Copilot taking resources is a big reason I don’t wanna upgrade. I don’t care if it’s optional I just don’t want it baked into everything and constantly scanning everything on my PC.

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u/RhesusFactor 7d ago

giving it access to my file system is terrifying, because you just know its going to leak something out onto the internet uncontrollably.

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u/zedemer 7d ago

Can't upgrade my, albeit pretty old, computer to win 11 even though everything I need it for works just fine on win 10. So...if security updates stop next year as anticipated, I'll just install Linux instead. I'm not paying AI inflated prices on a new computer just so Microsoft's AI can exist on my machine (I'd disable all AI functions anyway).

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u/Excalitoria 7d ago

I’ve thought about switching too because of this. I really don’t care about it existing I just hate the idea of it taking up resources and, like you said, inflating the costs when my use of it will be infinitesimal, if I use it at all.

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u/thisshitsstupid 7d ago

Windows 11 updates bricked my PC for the 2nd time recently and forced me to revert the update. Shits fucking infuriating.

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u/aVarangian 13600kf 7900xtx 2160 | 6600k 1070 1440 7d ago

at least on pro you can configure it so it doesn't exist

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u/Excalitoria 7d ago

Didn’t know that. I’ll have to look into if I stay with Windows, thanks!

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u/Capable-Sky-8995 7d ago

I don't want ANY fucking AI in any shape or form.

I want an OS that doesn't get in my fucking way.

Doesn't force ads on me.

Doesn't force me to use some proprietary store.

Doesn't force me to create an online account.

Doesn't include spying on it's users as a main "feature".

Doesn't force feature updates on me.

Security updates are fine. Apart from that, don't touch my fucking system.

In other words: I just want a modern version of Windows 7.

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u/killrtaco Desktop 7d ago

Run linux

Thats your best bet

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u/IllustriousFicus 7d ago

Was gonna say, sounds like Linux to me.

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u/swordigosa 6d ago

Do you play CoD, Valorant, etc.? Then continue to suffer. I literally stopped playing CoD because of Windows (though, it's not like CoD is good anyways). Fedora Linux on all AMD and life is good. WoW not only performs better but it's way more stable

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u/Professional_Ask_96 7d ago

It cites Grokipedia as a source.

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u/LordBrandon 7d ago

Thats one step below "Source: my unwashed asshole"

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u/3feetHair 7d ago

I miss when things were kept the same way for a long time. Like Windows XP and 7, they were the same thing for a long time. I mean, they still are. Nowadays, things change everyday, you wake up the next day and there're a dozen of new things, I didnt even had the time to learn or use the "old" things. I feel so overloaded.

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u/tekanet 7d ago

I just don’t have the time needed to understand things. Part of that is due to me being older, but when I started working an OS was updated every few years, a program once a year. Now every day I open Claude Code CLI or Visual Studio Code and they have an update. I feel overloaded too, I just can’t read the changes let alone understand and test them.

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u/LordBrandon 7d ago

I don't mind when things change, but when they are changed to something worse. The usual reason is that it's better for a company trying to push some trash on you.

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u/SirKronan 7d ago

If it had been named Cortana permanently and used Cortana from Halo's voice, I'm not certain the backlash would be as strong... 🤔

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 7d ago

I still wouldn't use it

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u/Degru 7700, 3080Ti 6d ago

I wonder why they stopped doing that... maybe didn't want to associate their desktop assistant with her after Halo 5?

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u/Swi11ah 7d ago

Cant wait for the Copilot OS 😂. But seriously is Windows 12 going to be Copilot OS?

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u/queen-adreena Linux 7d ago

It’s a CoPilot from FlyDubai, it waits till you’re not looking and stabs you in the face and tries to crash.

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u/the_mooseman 9800x3D | 5080 | 650 Tomahawk 6d ago

The copilot from flydubai is one of the funniest things im read in a while lol

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u/AnarchBeetle 7d ago

I think they should just make 2 versions of Windows 12. One is driven entirely by AI (agentic OS or whatever they wanna call it) which can be sold to corporations and OEMs and a normal OS for anyone else. This way everyone is happy.

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u/Darth-Decimus 7d ago

Only to come back soon and replace the entire taskbar with a copilot input box!

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u/Opening_Bluebird_935 7d ago

They need to reincorporate Cortana. So Cortana Copilot™️. 😂

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u/Langley05642 7d ago

MS announces "Now every PC is a CoPilot PC !"

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u/Solid_Guess_7154 CachyOS | RX 9060XT | R5 5600x 7d ago

probably they got scared that Linux is getting so much attention lately, like, all of the PC related channels I watch started uploading videos of trying out Linux and how it works

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u/IDKForA 7d ago

They’re not scared. They only listen to OEMs and corporations. It’s probably the OEMs who pushed back against this,

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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. 7d ago

They also are going to respond to states. Multiple major European countries have already executed or are in the process of switching away from Microsoft products for all public sector usage. That's not minor. Every branch of their install base has some portion of it that is concerned or upset about things MS is doing; they can't just pretend it's not happening and be indifferent to it if they intend to continue having their services be used. You don't stay on top by doing nothing. 

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u/aVarangian 13600kf 7900xtx 2160 | 6600k 1070 1440 7d ago

licenses for individual big entities like that probably makes them more money than all of pcmasterrace combined

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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. 7d ago

It's pretty likely, yes. The average consumer user is just using an OEM install of Windows and a minute fraction of those users are paying an additional fee for OneDrive, or Office, or something along those lines. Meanwhile, corporate customers are paying licensing for entire fleets at once, with a bunch of redundancies and backups, and full product suites to be used by every employee. When I was running a Windows machine, I paid a Windows license once, and declined to use a single other Microsoft service. Meanwhile, I worked for multiple employers during that time that had us using Outlook, Excel, Word, Publisher, OneNote, and so on. Losing me as a home consumer to Linux will be a rounding error on their books, but dropping an entire organization of thousands of licenses, that's an annoyance.

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u/Some-Relative4150 7d ago

We switched to 11 at work about a year ago. The computers have been crawling ever since.

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u/Ok_Turnover_1235 7d ago

Yes and no. The cause and effect isn't necessarily "I use windows at work so I'll use windows at home" especially now every app is basically a web page. If people start using linux at home, they start commenting "oh this would be less frustrating if we were running linux" and suddenly the need to run windows starts to disappear, may as well use whatever Microslop app your company demands you use in a browser on linux at that point

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u/Lashay_Sombra 7d ago

They are not really scared of Linux on desktops, people have been saying it will take over for 30 years yet its never really got above 4% on desktops

If they start seeing high general usage (it not the IT students) in collages (how apple got its foot in the door) they might get concerned but until then they will not care

On servers though the numbers are nearly reversed

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u/AnarchBeetle 7d ago

✨Year of Linux✨ is just around the corner

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u/JoyousGamer 7d ago

Yup 2529 is just about here. /s

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u/sbstndrks Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 4070 7d ago

Yup, Linux is not gaining widespread adoption, but the user share is still swelling and swelling, bit by bit

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u/queen-adreena Linux 7d ago

Thing with Linux is that once the dam breaks, it’ll probably grow very quickly indeed.

Once everyone has to support Linux, there won’t be many blockers left.

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u/DoubleExposure AMD 5800X3D | RT 9070 XT | CachyOS 7d ago

Ironically it will probably be because of AI. It is crazy what you can do on Linux now, VM windows or any other OS, emulate PS5, I got Photoshop to work, but it is still needs GPU pass-though. It will be a combo of everything working and Windows continued enshittification, but the dam will break.

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u/Excolo_Veritas i9-12900KS, Asus TUF RTX 4090, & 64GB DDR5 6200 CL36 7d ago

Don't really care what Microslop does anymore, moved on to linux and not looking back at this point. Fuck them

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u/krzf Linux 7d ago edited 7d ago

Time to update your flair 👑🐧

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u/Excolo_Veritas i9-12900KS, Asus TUF RTX 4090, & 64GB DDR5 6200 CL36 7d ago

Oh lol didn't even think of that, doing so now

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u/SomnusRain 6d ago

microsoft knows what people wants, and it's ads on videogames xD

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u/Mikucon-P 7d ago

They are pushing ai that nobody asked for as bloatware to cheat the balance sheets by bundling it to their products that actually make money.

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u/EngragedOrphan 7d ago

I searched how to remove it on it. Then removed it. 

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u/LordBrandon 7d ago

Your Nobel prize is in the mail.

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u/NRMusicProject 7d ago

"incorporate your feedback"

As far as corporations go, they never abandon what they think is their flagship product. This will more likely be "we heard your concerns, and now Copilot is better than ever. And you have no choice but to use it."

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u/Potato5auce 7d ago

Ask Copilot anything

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u/stunt_p 7d ago

I don't use Microslop Search ether. Both can go away mad, they can go away sad, they can go away glad.... Just GO AWAY!!!

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u/trumangroves86 7d ago

If there was a version of Windows that only had the Windows features I actually use, it'd just be the start menu, File Explorer and the legacy control panel.

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u/Musician-Round 7d ago

I'm sorry, but, I'm just NOT going to click the download button. HAHAHA

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u/Izinski i7-4770k @3.50Ghz | GTX 1060 | 16.0GB RAM 7d ago

Can they just let me move my taskbar to my secondary monitor again

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u/OperativePiGuy 7d ago

I feel like this must be why Swiftkey feels like it's gotten worse recently. It feels like it didn't have nearly this much trouble guessing what I wanted to write before this year. And it's also another place where they've tried to shove copilot.

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u/-Mr_Tub- PC Master Race 7d ago

Yet they put it in file explorer in 26H2

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u/The_Cozy_Burrito PC Master Race 7d ago

Never will use that trash

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u/flyspeeks 6d ago

Hate to be the linux guy, but well...linux exists exactly to escape this hell

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u/Neveroxx99 7d ago

It's also not because people don't want AI, Copilot is just shit.

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u/Mad_OW 7d ago

Who the fuck wants AI in their OS?

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u/sokratesz 7d ago

Narrator: it's also because people don't want AI

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u/trekxtrider 🪟 🍎🖥️🖦🎮💻💾📡 7d ago

As soon as I updated to 26H2 I ran the Chris Titus script and cleaned it up again.

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u/ShallowBasketcase CoolerMasterRace 7d ago

I'd like to think all those times I told it to kill itself actually made a difference.

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u/BaronessVonKush 7d ago

keep your ai shit out of my life!

https://giphy.com/gifs/spfi6nabVuq5y

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u/Flopolopogus2 7d ago

Swap to Linux fuck microslop

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u/DarthJDP 7d ago

They told me my hardware was trash and would no longer be supported. I looked at current prices for gaming PC's. I decided running bazzite would serve my needs.

Wont be coming back.

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u/ABirdOfParadise R7 5700x|5700 XT SE|32GB|1NVME|2SSD|6HDD 7d ago

For edge an update enabled some kind of predictive text which was annoying cause I can touch type and trying to complete sentences was so distracting.

After I disabled it it asked for feedback which I was gonna do but it wanted info I did not want to provide.

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u/Ratiofarming CachyOS | 9850X3D | RTX 5090 | 48GB 7d ago

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u/danivus i7 14700k | 4090 | 32GB DDR5 7d ago

AI has some really powerful and interesting uses as a tool when deployed in specific, controlled ways.

The 'everything machine' these companies are trying to make it be by injecting shit like Copilot into everything is the opposite of how AI should be used.

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u/Yurgin 7d ago

They should put it behind a paywall because companies will suck dick for AI, sadly.
For us normal people no we dont wanna

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u/FortyEightyFilms 7d ago

I tried CoPilot for troubleshooting a local Windows issue which you'd think would be its bread an butter. Complete waste of time.

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u/BC_Sativa 7d ago edited 7d ago

Nobody wants "Muse" or whatever Facebook's bullshit is, either. No matter how much they spend advertising it on Reddit.

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u/FrenchFriedMushroom 6d ago

My workplace is SUPER pro AI.

So much so that the management level right above me is mandated to use AI to write emails for them.

Its crazy to me.

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u/Diuranos 6d ago

And I like using Copilot if you know how to use it. But Microsoft messed up the Android app, where the new version has such limits that people are leaving it. You practically can’t send any files anymore, connect to OneDrive on the account, only PDF for reading can be sent, and even that has issues. I’m staying on the old copilot version, already with the grey icon and the legacy label because it’s almost abandoned. For now it still works and I don’t have the limits the newer version has, so I’ll use it until they disconnect it completely. Then I’ll think about which AI to use for my work.

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u/Xip1ngu 6d ago

Learning it the hard way. Classic Microslop.