r/worldnews • u/londonsuedehead • 9h ago
Russia/Ukraine Zelensky says he feels betrayed over Trump-Russia deal
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-says-he-feels-betrayed-over-trump-russia-deal/971
u/eskimospy212 9h ago
Not that it is Zelenskyy’s fault as he has no choice but to deal with the US but yes, Trump eventually betrays everyone.
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u/Weak_Definition_4321 8h ago
Except for Russia
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u/dennis77 8h ago
Look, every us official traveling to Russia is instructed to never open hotel doors at night when those sexy underaged KGB officers are knocking on your door.
Everyone who has at least two brain cells is following these directions for obvious reasons.
We all know though that Trump was never the brightest, so he just doesn't like the idea of all that underage porn to be leaked to the public.
It's as easy as it gets.
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u/pilzenschwanzmeister 4h ago
It's him chomping down on a bear's log. He is not afraid of grabbing some teens by the pussy.
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u/National-Charity-435 8h ago edited 6h ago
And fbi director patel is in russia plotting more treason.
Is now reported in Virginia, per FBI and ABC affiliate video
https://www.reuters.com/world/fbi-says-director-patel-virginia-not-russia-2026-10-14/
Thanks u/woodsmoky
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u/KaQuu 8h ago
He truly went through with the visit? Country of traitors.
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u/soopadrive 8h ago
We all have our responsibility in the coming weeks to make some changes. I'll be doing my part
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u/phigo50 6h ago
The thing is, and I hope I'm wrong about this but I've seen it from 2 sources, even if the Democrats take control of the House and the Senate, they can only effectively rein him in domestically - he'll still be able to be a cunt internationally, maybe even more so.
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u/CoderJoe1 6h ago
But closer to impeachment
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u/phigo50 4h ago
Impeachment won't mean anything because Democrats won't ever win enough of the Senate to convict him. He might be impeached several times but it'll never go further and he'll be able to shout about how he was exonerated and blah blah blah every time.
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u/ThunderOblivion 6h ago
Never forget July 4, 2018. They've been traitors for a while AND Americans re-elected them.
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u/TLKv3 7h ago
I genuinely believe he's the delivery boy and handing all intel the US has on Ukraine's military to Putin directly.
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u/DerpsAndRags 6h ago
Ol' Baby Hands McRapist spent way too much time around Moscow and the Miss Universe pageants. I'm convinced that Putin has dirt on him and Meliana is a handler. Yes, it's a tin-foil hat theory, but if something like that came to light, would anyone really be shocked?
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u/Draco-REX 6h ago
I'm worried it's worse than that. I'm worried it's just a matter of hero-worship on Trump's part and he's too fucking stupid to realize Putin is leading him around by his nose.
I truly believe that Trump has the emotional development level of a toddler.
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u/DerpsAndRags 6h ago
That, and he sees nothing beyond transaction.
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u/Draco-REX 6h ago
Toddlers are like that. They focus on what benefits them, and what they can gain for themselves, and don't consider the consequences. A sociopath will consider the repercussions.
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u/LantaExile 4h ago edited 4h ago
I'd be surprised by Melania. She doesn't seem that way. The rest though is pretty likely.
My personal theory is it's less Putin having dirt on Trump so much as Trump partnering with the Russians back when the KGB flew him to Moscow in 1982 along the lines of the Russians saying we'll help you be president one day and him saying sure we'll partner up. He ran his first political ads slagging NATO immediately after that.
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u/woodsmoky 6h ago
Apparently that was a false report that has been disproven and retracted by the original reporter.
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u/Financial-Appeal-275 9h ago
Did Putin even say Thank You?
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u/Tropicalgia 8h ago
Trump effusively thanked Putin for letting us help him.
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u/AlloAll0 8h ago
I'm pretty sure Trump said: "Thank you Mr. Putin Sir, for not releasing the Esptein files and please, keep funding my crime syndicate".
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u/InterstellarReddit 8h ago
No way Donnie would have hear the thank you from Putin while Donnie is on his knees bro
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u/Main_Dragon_1999 8h ago
I mean every dollar Trump gives to Putin goes directly to the russian side of the battlefield. I don’t think it’s a secret anymore that Trump wants Russia to continue its war against Ukraine and further European countries afterwards. Destabilizing Europe and USA‘s closest allies has been of high priority on Trump‘s agenda so far.
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u/dontshoveit 5h ago
He's Putin's puppet. It's extremely obvious and his wife is his Russian handler.
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u/Lord_Abort 3h ago
And aids Iran. Our tax dollars support strikes on American service members, civilians overseas, and increases domestic prices.
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u/FunctionalGray 8h ago
Hopefully this feeling of betrayal extends to the rest of our historically traditional allies as well -- and that their officials grow some balls and both voice their opinions and start dialogues about how to bypass the United States in trade and other cooperative efforts.
If the entirety of the US is made to suffer due to this guy, and the international voice is strong and united about how f-upped all of this is - and who EXACTLY, by name is to blame, it will eventually break through the firewalls the thicker skulled individuals in this country have surrounded themselves with.
But they need to be made to suffer. As all of us do...so that we have no other choice but to repudiate him.
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u/Elukka 8h ago
Saudi-Arabia is now looking towards Pakistan and Turkey for their security concerns. This is kind of unbelievable how badly Trump dropped the ball.
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u/Iankill 7h ago
Yeah this is what people don't get about Iran. Iran couldn't hit the US but it sure as shit could hit US allies and then when you don't protect your allies and cause their hardship do you want to remain allies with them
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u/drunkenbrawler 7h ago
He's just completely inept at leadership. The only thing he's good at is inserting himself into everything.
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u/aunt_clarity 7h ago
He's actually very good and proficient in destroying the US and its relationships with its allies. Too good even. Almost like these aren't blunders at all but achievements in the ol' kgb book.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 6h ago
He doesn't have any interest in leadership. He wants to rule like an autocrat.
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u/bertbarndoor 6h ago
If you accept he's a Russian asset, Trump has been spectacularly successful. On so many levels he has destroyed the United States from within and sewn so much division, it's impressive.
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u/PorkbellyFL0P 8h ago
They have. Do you not notice the mass arming on the eastern fronts. Europe is preparing for war. Ukraine has been kicking Russias ass all summer. Trump took yhe deal because Russia cant refine their crude and its pennies on the dollar
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u/Tack122 7h ago
If only we did the truly American thing and liberated that oil from Russian hands.
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u/PorkbellyFL0P 6h ago
The Big Game is a bit more nuanced. Heres how I see it from the perspectives of the main players.
Trump: Those Venesuela guys keep fucking with the oil prices. Lets bully them out of existance. Holy shit that was easy. Lets do the same with Iran. They have been a pain too right? Ah shit that didnt work. Now the people are mad about gas prices. Whats the easiest way to fix this. Hey Putin!
Putin: HaHa all is going to plan glorious Russia will return to glory. Wait what? They are doing what? Everything fine. Nothing to see here nothing to see here. Hey world cheap crude. We have long lines at gas station. Fix please. Need take over world.
Xi: These idiots. Ill just keep investing in infrustructure and bribing the poor. We will make out move after everything is dust.
EU: Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck. ITS HAPPENING AGAIN!
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 6h ago
Germany: "Thank goodness it isn't our fault this time..."
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u/shadowK1LOS 5h ago
Canada has been doing exactly that. All that internal stuff is your business, but the world is moving on without you.
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u/joeybetamaxpt2 8h ago
Its basically Trump desperate from the elections trying to offload the blame on others. While at it, put some of the blame of the high gas prices on Zelensky.
The people who really eat this up and the face they put on speaking about this with a straight face. I swear....
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u/Obvious-Human1 8h ago
Life long American
I feel betrayed too
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u/Mahat 8h ago
do something about it
lifelong canadian
don't make me come over and do it for you
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u/issr 8h ago
I mean, Trump has been consistently betraying him since the election.
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u/Jolly_Psychology_506 7h ago
Trump thinks he is part of a New York mafia crime family. Everything is for sale and has a price. No allegiances no loyalty unless a payment is made.
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u/CryMeaRiver2Crawl 8h ago
The US has joined the dark side. That’s bad news for Ukraine in particular and the rest of the free world in general.
Please, American voters; restrict this man’s powers as fast and as much as you can. I don’t think the world will survive two more years like this.
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u/1Meter_long 7h ago
US won't be a superpower in future. Economy and military and allies make a country a superpower. US allies will soon be North Korea and Russia. EU will keep trading minimum with US, all dependencies will be removed, military bases will be removed because they're basically Russian bases under US flag. When US loses their soft power and economy takes a hit then they will be just a normal country. China is the one which gains from all of this and will be the most powerful country in future.
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u/Ok_Interest_9006 8h ago
He should feel betrayed. Trump is an asshole with no regard to Europe as a whole. One day when that rotted piece of orange shit is deep in his hole we will need Europe and they just might say FUCK YOU, remember when??????????
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u/RoughDraftish 3h ago
As a Canadian I no longer consider the USA as a member of NATO.
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u/Galileo009 2h ago
Scant decades ago, this sentence would've sounded completly insane. It's difficult to believe just how hard and how fast things have fallen apart
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u/iMakesItBad 8h ago
Genuinely asking, are there no protests going on in America right now about the state of your country? I am seeing article after article of how Trump is doing this and that but it seems like the citizens are just apathetic to it now?
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u/Ntroepy 7h ago
The biggest reason came from Trump’s former chief strategist when he said:
“The Democrats don't matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”
That strategy wasn't really to persuade the public, but to overwhelm the media and political opposition with so much information, controversy, and chaos that they couldn't effectively respond.
And it’s been brilliantly effective. By the time people organize an ICE protest, Trump has moved on to abducting Venezuela’s president, bombing Iran, or some new outrage. All while massively enriching himself. It’s Bannon’s “flood the zone with shit” strategy in action. How do you sustain public outrage when nobody can even keep track of what we’re supposed to be protesting?
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u/Master_Bayters 6h ago
Bannon will be studied for years. He is Trump Goebbels, the one that allows a person like Trump to thrive. Flood the zone with sht and muzzle velocity are the most effective strategy for lying, unethical people in the modern social media landscape. There's a special place in hell for him.
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u/krenoten 6h ago edited 5h ago
He just copied a bunch of Russian shit. Adam Curtis made a documentary about this Soviet strategy and the connection between Trump and Russia shortly before Trump's first election in his documentary HyperNormalization.
Wikipedia article on the movie describes the term that it is named after as having this origin:
The word hypernormalisation was coined by Alexei Yurchak, a professor of anthropology who was born in Leningrad and later went to teach at the University of California, Berkeley. He introduced the word in his book Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation (2006), which describes paradoxes of Soviet life during the 1970s and 1980s.\3])\4]) He says everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine any alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society.\5]) Over time, the mass delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy, with everyone accepting it as the new norm rather than pretend, an effect Yurchak termed hypernormalisation.\6]) It has since gained further resonance in the social media era in 2025 in the U.S.
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u/NooooMaam 5h ago
I will never understand how constant frivolous and scandalous actions of a president don't lead to an immediate and massive failure of that party in the next election and why impeachment has become toothless.
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u/Bu11ett00th 6h ago
Btw that's not unlike what Russia is doing information-wise. They don't mean to present lies as truth or to deny the real truth. They just flood the media with extraordinary bs until people start saying "there's so many versions that we can't know the truth"
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u/Ntroepy 6h ago
Exactly - Trump learns from the best.
He also learned “The Big Lie” from Putin where you repeat an obvious falsehood that all party members must publicly support as a litmus test. Like winning the 2020 election.
It’s crushed Republican Party dissent as ANY criticism or question of anything the president says is met with vengeful wrath - often by their own constituents.
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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 5h ago
I mean they also bought most of the main stream media so...
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u/Presently_Absent 5h ago
As a Canadian I'm sick of the "we love you guys" bullshit - in Russia it doesn't matter if SOME Russians love their ukranian friends, what matters is that Putin is in power. It's the same in the US - trump is enabled every day by the apathy. Don't give me "we heart u guys", let's see people raising a fucking stink and trying to make a change.
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u/WangoTheWonderDonkey 8h ago
Nationwide "No Kings" protests about every six months. Trump uses a tidal wave approach to his crimes. His crimes come daily and that's hard to protest one-for-one. Also, protests don't seem to affect his voter base of fools, cowards, and cronies, and they are the root cause of this phenomenon. The only people who absorb the message of a protest are people who already believe the message.
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u/jbFanClubPresident 7h ago
Exactly. His base is unshakable. There have been many protests against him over the years but they don’t seem to accomplish anything.
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u/sonnyarmo 7h ago
It’s gotten really bad. Almost every single MAGA member left has their self-image, their ego, their community, and their entire sense of self deeply embedded within Trump. Even when faced with irrefutable evidence of Trump’s corruption and crimes, they will just bring up Biden to avoid the topic.
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u/Unusually_Happy_TD 6h ago
They’ve made it their entire identity, knowing full well that supporting him could cause family members and friends to stop associating with them. They went all in and they will never admit they are wrong.
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u/Lumi_Rockets 6h ago
If you could open up a MAGA's mind and look inside, it would just be Trump dancing around in an empty room.
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u/cr1mzen 5h ago
Facebook spreads this nonsense. I hope i live to Zuckerberg at Neurenburg
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u/Cobs85 6h ago
Nothing sticks it to the powers that be than using your Saturday to walk in the streets for a couple hours.
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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 7h ago
Doubtful. Sure remember when Mar-A-Lago got raided Trump changed his story so goddam much none of his MAGA fans batted an eye as to why he couldn't keep his story straight.
Claimed it was a political hit piece made to make him look bad. HE WAS THE FIRST TO POST ABOUT IT AND ALERT THE MEDIA.
Claimed it was an illegal raid THEY PROVIDED A WARRANT.
Then claimed it was a waste of time there WAS NOTHING TO FIND but they found something.
Then he said there was nothing incriminating THEY FOUND SOMETHING INCRIMINATING.
He said they planted evidence THEY RELEASED PHOTOS OF HIM REMOVING THE STOLEN DOCUMENTS FROM RHW WHITE HOUSE.
He said he had the right to take the items RECORDS DEPARTMENT SHOWED HE DID NOT.
Claimed there was nothing confidential and they were stored correctly THEY WERE NEXT TO A TOILER ANYONE STAYING COULD ACCESS AND FULL OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
Claims it's fine he never showed anyone AUDIO TAOE RELEASED OF HIM SHOWING IRAN ATTACK PLANS TO REPORTERS.
He's walking America off a cliff this will take years to recover from
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u/DrMisterNobody 8h ago
Theres flaws in our system that have been exposed, everyone is hoping the midterms will turn the tide. Right now the people can stop him are mostly on his side.
People are wary of doing anything say on the level of a french protest because he's mused about martial law and using the insurrection act. It's a "don't give them a reason" type rule thats been in place for protests so far. There's genuine concern about martial law and cancelled elections.
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u/commentBRAH 8h ago
they had bigger protests when George Floyd died lol
americans just dont care enough
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u/Trump_Russia 8h ago
I create this user name 9 fucking years ago...
Anyone paying attention knew this was coming and there's nothing we can do because half the country is dumb as fuck.
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u/MelangeBot 6h ago
I am Canadian, I know how to fly drones now. (Started 4 years ago). My buddy frank knows how to fly drones now. His dad learned it as well. My room mate learned how to fly drones. Everybody at our RC club also start doing drones. I got 5 x 5 inch drones now and 3 x 7 inch drones. Some of my friends are farmers and they have money. I know a farmer that has been buying up those giant drones they use for crop spraying. Especially DJI, when they stop working and it's to expensive to ship em back for repair or when DJI does not want to service them. He buys non working giant drones and repairs them with his own hardware. He showed me a basement in his barn he build with 40 of these in.
Anyways, not everybody has been sleeping.
When the US finally moves it's little green man in to Alberta, in to Calgary and Edmonton they will not get in to many arguments with Canadians. The time of talking is over. Nazis only understand the language of violence. If Ukraine can hold it self against a nuclear power run by a madman then Canada will hold it self against a nuclear power run by a madman with silly hair.
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u/austinwiltshire 7h ago
There are small protests all over every day, and record breaking large ones every six months or so.
You don't hear about these because many media establishment have decided they're not news. One reason they don't get covered is that if you annoy the orange Jesus you lose media access. And whatever nonsense Trump says gets more clicks than protests against him, so that's who they decide to cover.
It's an older reference, but it shows the trend best
https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/03/resistance-alive-well-us/
Edit: "but why aren't you doing more!"
I see videos in my feeds of people still blocking ICE with cars, getting into scuffles, taking out flock cameras, etc... Every day. Ice has become a bit more decentralized in its enforcement which means counter protest activities are also smaller and decentralized. They're happening if you know where to look.
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u/Adreme 7h ago
About 3 weeks from elections so right now the focus is on that. Granted even in the best case it won’t change anything.
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u/Buntschatten 7h ago
Right before an election seems like the best time to organise protests to motivate people to vote.
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u/Ok-Shift5122 8h ago
Too much work
Someone else should do it
Not my problem
Don’t care
Don’t know
Look at my new selfiesPick one.
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u/Ryzensai 7h ago
Because the general public isn’t fired up in controversy like Reddit generally is. It’s a bubble in here that doesn’t represent the real vibe of the country.
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u/Luzdesolamarelo 8h ago
There are always protests throughout our country. We haven't had a collectively massive one for a few months now, but everyday in these cities there are protests. Not to mention, the upcoming midterms look absolutely atrocious for Republicans. We can't count on it, but it looks like people are ready to vote out this Republican party.
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u/Different-Cloud-842 8h ago
Never act under the assumption that Americans will do the right thing. Its up to the rest of us to eliminate our reliance on the us. This should have happened years ago but it is never too late to start. Trump did not arrive out of a vacuum, he is the logical result of the mentality the us and the people living there has had for decades. We have to address our own apathy in our acceptance of this.
Also the result of this upcoming election will not change anything, even if the opposition party gets all the seats they will not do enough to hinder Trump. The need to uphold the "dignity" of the system is like a religion to them. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I lost hope in the ability of the american people to do what is right a long time ago.
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u/Capital_Elderberry28 8h ago
Trump has done this all his life.
Ukraine is just the latest in a long string of betrayals.
Keep going after the Russian bots 🤖
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u/ClimateAncient6647 7h ago
Why does everyone trust Trump? Like, look at his track record. He’s a grifting piece of shit.
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u/made_me_a_moron 6h ago
Who? Who trusts Trump?
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u/ImOutWanderingAround 6h ago
The 35% just don’t care because at least it’s not a Democrat, unless it negatively impacts them personally. Even then, there are those who still don’t care. Cognitive dissonance everywhere.
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u/luffy_mib 8h ago
That means Ukraine no longer needs to honor any agreement with the US when it comes to restrictions. A country with nothing to lose is most dangerous
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u/reuben_iv 8h ago edited 7h ago
We all do, but what are congress doing? Where are all the 'checkd and balances'? This can't all be trump surely
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u/Charybdis150 7h ago
Checks and balances only work if the checking body actually wants to rein in the other branches. That’s kind of why midterm elections for Congress are such a big deal.
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u/Exciting-Record8101 8h ago
The US public that liked Trump so well they re-elected him, also made sure to vote for a Congress that would support everything he does.
The problem isn't the politicians, it's the people that vote for them.
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u/NlghtmanCometh 8h ago
Shutting off Starlink for the Ukrainians was extremely telling. We are actively supporting Russia to win the war.
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u/Used_Bong 8h ago
He should have known with all certainty that this was going to happen. Potus word is worthless
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u/bcboy66 8h ago
Indeed. It is almost like the USA is a Russian ally.
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u/FryingdutchpaN 8h ago
Asset. The word is asset.
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u/ShadowPostr 8h ago
I think ally stops short. When they speak about Putin-Trump arguing about who hangs up first, that sounds like BFF territory. Asset is far too limiting and cold. Ally just doesn't do it justice.
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u/ArWiLen 8h ago
1.5 years of Zelenskyy's calm responses to Trump's betrayal led to nothing. I think it's enough
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u/USSSLostTexter 3h ago
because he WAS betrayed. Fuckin' Don the Con is not only ruining our monetary credit, he's ruining our good will credit with all nations. Who is EVER going to trust the US again after this fuck stain exits office?
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u/rainman_104 3h ago
Unfortunately I can see the next president trying to mend bridges and countries cautiously reopening relationships, but I don't think they're giving the farm to the USA either.
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u/Designer-Growth-3965 8h ago
We all feel betrayed, he is not alone. Orange fuck is ruining the world
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u/rainman_104 3h ago
Everyone feels betrayed by trump and Americans. This is not a new feeling.
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u/foo_fight3r 1h ago
I'm still waiting for Americans to go out to the streets and protest 24/7. But they are all cowards. All of them.
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u/TheShepardOfficial 8h ago
Who will betray who next. Putin betrays trump or trump betrays Putin. Probably the first.
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u/SpartanKane 8h ago
As he should. But he should also be unsurprised. Everyone with a brain knew Trump was compromised by Russia.
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u/Budget_Most9407 8h ago
Blaming Ukrainian strikes on refineries for rising fuel prices… you literally can’t make this nonsense up. Sad day for all Americans, Slava Ukraini
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u/CelestialFury 1h ago
Trump has betrayed America, Ukraine, all our allies, everyone really. All for Putin and other evil men to continue to control and destroy everything good in this world.
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u/WeThePeople102 8h ago
I didn't vote for Republican before, and will not vote for any Republican the rest of my life if American people still have a right vote.
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u/Serious_Dealer9683 8h ago
Americans betraying allies is a tale as old as time. Ask the Kurds.
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u/-----iMartijn----- 4h ago
How can one person decide who the entire US will support in this war?
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u/theflickingnun 8h ago
It was clear from as soon as Trump and dance were in office that they were not going to support Ukraine, unless it meant profit or minerals!
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u/FU_red-dit_bots 7h ago
Feels betrayed?! Feels? He was betrayed. By an ally country led by a man with the maturity of a toddler.
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u/Drippy_topper 7h ago
He was betrayed.
Trump is no one's friend.
Everything is negotiable because nothing is sacred with him.
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u/Mav_Learns_CS 8h ago
That’s because it is a betrayal, but it’s the US so we’ll pretend and not call it what it is officially
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u/WhirlWindBoy7 8h ago
Saudis, Ukraine, South Korea, etc….. Basically, any one that’s not Israel, Russian, or in the Epstein Files.
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u/ksgt69 7h ago
As an American citizen I feel betrayed. Considering that a) it's not necessarily coming here b) it's only worth a week or so of diesel c) Russia allegedly got a portion of that oil from Iran and blended it with their own so in a roundabout way the US is funding the country it's at war with.
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u/Sensitive-Big-4641 6h ago
That means Zelensky’s sane. Only a crazy man would take Trump at his word.
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u/Reddit_Only_4494 6h ago
The only man that will break and betray a deal faster than Putin is Trump.
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u/Ok-Candy-2627 6h ago
I hope people realize clearly that if this idiot Donnie says it’s raining you don’t believe it until you go outside and check it yourself!
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u/Dependent_House7077 6h ago
Trump is really speedrunning alienating US.
i just wonder whether he knows what he's doing or is he blind to it since his ego knows better.
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u/Roadie73 5h ago
Betrayed by Trump? You'd think he'd know better. Since 2016 Trump has just been Putin's monkey anyway. The whole world saw Trump act like a whipped dog for Putin in Helsinki in 2018. Putin owns him.
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u/Consistent_Wing9554 5h ago
It’s was only a matter of time before Trump gave Russia the keys to the castle. Trump is a Russian asset, Putin has so much on him, if Putin told him to blow him he would.
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u/Armedfist 9h ago
Like I said before… Ukraine should of restart its nuclear program few years back
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u/Robespierre77 8h ago
He saw that coming months ago. Everyone in the world except the US sees the Russian asset he is.
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u/Particular-Way-3479 8h ago
You are not alone Zelensky, most of us in the United States and around the world feel betrayed by trump and his administration
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u/narfoleptix 7h ago
He should. Elon a bitch. I wish someone would uh....let's just say "tickle his face with their hands," on live tv so everyone can see how big of a bitch.
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u/Potential-Fan-6148 7h ago
Here’s hoping after the mid terms we can get a veto proof bipartisan majority to force aid to Ukraine.
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u/Hot-Hamster-42 7h ago
Ukraine has been betrayed since day 1 of this administration. Shameful. 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
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u/totallyRebb 7h ago
Trumpists will go down in history as the most traitorous administration. They are just too dumb and drugged up to realize.
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u/formershitpeasant 6h ago
I mean he was definitely betrayed just now when musk and trump shut down their starlink at the same moment Moscow attacked a bunch of civilians and infrastructure. Trump and musk are traitorous pieces of shit.
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u/luv2ctheworld 6h ago
To be fair, anyone dealing w Trump gets to feel betrayed at some point sooner or later.
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u/1HappyRoadrunner 9h ago
Not just you, buddy. Not just you..