r/gaming • u/RenatsMC • 13h ago
WARDOGS | Season 02 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2JTuaMczs60
u/Deep-tech-house 12h ago
lol I’m only level 20 wtf
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u/_Neurobro_ 12h ago
Some people just don't work, don't play anything else, or don't really have other hobbies lol. It sucks for everyone else but I'm sure you'll be getting clapped by IR, 50 cal snipers, and level 4 armored guys in no time again!
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u/CautiousCatch1102 12h ago
Damn, between work and kids I might have to set this game down. I don’t have time to play it everyday to keep up with others.
I die like 5 times more than I get kills as is lol
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u/Sialorphin 11h ago
The fact that you got downvoted just because your talking about your normal life routine and decisions around it tells that this sub is condensed to the many of these sweats you are referring while the guys living your live as well already left this bubble.
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u/PokemonSapphire 11h ago
oh man the actual war dogs sub is way more toxic. people on there bitching about the havoc which is like a level 35 pilot unlock and it’s an attack helicopter that dominates some game lobbies. the amount of people that downvote and bitch about how you need to get good when you mention that you have no way of countering it and it’s unfun for someone to be able to take the lobby hostage and farm both enemy teams for the low cost of 26k is insane. Their solution that you need to get good and do. Farm to like level 25 in the support tree to unlock the maaws which is supposed to be an anti tank weapon to be able to down the helicopters because the AA infantry launcher is basically useless against it.
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u/AidyD 11h ago
Also in game is full of racists and homophobes. So it’s got that going for it too.
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u/PokemonSapphire 10h ago
Yeah unfortunately. There's community servers that don't put up with that shit. But unfortunately it seems any kind of "serious" shooter game has that garbage in spades. I've teamkilled pieces of shit on my team for it before too lol. Woops you came around that corner and scared me. Oh no I mag dumped your corpse and broke your armor and helmet too silly me.
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u/LaLa1234imunoriginal 9h ago
Can you name a shooter that isn't? Seriously can you? I'd love to play one that isn't just packed full of open bigotry.
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u/AidyD 9h ago
I can name shooters less racist and homophobic. I don’t remember playing the finals for 100 hours and hearing a dumbass shout slurs once actually
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u/LaLa1234imunoriginal 9h ago
Huh never played The Finals, was it any good? I don't think I've ever played a shooter in my 20+ years of playing them where I didn't encounter someone dropping nonstop slurs within the first like 10 hours max.
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u/DrLeprechaun 1h ago
Game plays and looks incredible, idk what the other guy's talking about. Straight up crack the first time I played it, there's not another sandbox fps on the market like it. Feels like Titanfall and Battlefield had a baby, sans any sort of mechs or vehicles. Lots of customization and different playstyles, and every match feels super different. Super cinematic at times too
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
It's mechanically OK, but it's aesthetically one of the most painful games to look at. The fisheye lens effect and obscenely bright environments makes them washed out and ugly.
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u/KiiingSmell 10h ago
Every game is. Literally every single game. This is because, racism exists in real life too.
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
It's not about his life routine. It's about how some people complain and want the game to be balanced their life routines, at the expense of the people playing the game.
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u/hammerfromsquad 8h ago
There are low level lobbies you can play or you can ask higher lvl players to get you what you want to try. But if you aren't having fun don't play
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u/UrLocalTroll 6h ago
Are the low level lobbies working? Whenever I click on it it shows every lobby at 0/100 people.
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u/windrunner97 5h ago
I think starting tomorrow they'll be a lot more populated. It locks out anyone over level 30? Or something currently, which is a pretty small part of the player base. The only full, low level servers I see are in EU currently. But once everyone is below 30 again, should see some population.
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u/I_am_Amphibian 6h ago
Yeah that’s why I haven’t been playing until wipe tbh. I don’t want to treat it like a job just to then be reset only a month into the games life span
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u/Synappes 11h ago
Yeah, I feel that same way. Thinking about going home at 6 PM today just to restart the grind again is demoralizing. I didn’t even get that far last time and it’s the only game I’ve played in the last month.
Probably going to set it down myself. That new Witcher remaster is looking more my speed.
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u/reboot-your-computer PC 11h ago
Same here. Pretty much done playing because of the wipe. I just don’t have the time to deal with resets every season. I was enjoying it but this completely kills the game for me.
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u/windrunner97 5h ago
They have low level official servers this season coming out. No one over a certain level can join, which will help for those who can't play as much. And then about halfway through the season, they're changing it to be equipment locked rather than level locked, so you don't deal with the T4 armors and such
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u/_Neurobro_ 11h ago
Yeah no offense but you're fucked lol. I don't even have kids but after shift work this game is torture, even with friends. I think I need to retire from competitive stuff in general. Hopefully they can soften the disparity without taking away rewards but idk. Just seems like a dumb system.
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u/NegativeAccount 8h ago
It disinsentivizes no life XP grinding when all your work is reset every few months
Wouldn't you rather have yourself and most people be low level with similar guns rather than just you being low level because you'd never have time to get to a high level anyways?
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u/glenninator 4h ago
Wish I could refund this game. I can’t keep up with everyone. After 18hrs I’m considering it a loss.
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
That's a poor excuse to use when arguing about being L20. You can get L20 in a few hours or less.
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u/Dat_Innocent_Guy 8h ago
well good thing for those people the devs have reduced the time it takes to get everything this patch isn't it.
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u/Flayed_Angel_420 3h ago
You can kill in 2 shots with m1911 hp and just take their fancy gear for yourself
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u/Dwealdric 12h ago
Look at it this way. Today you're in the bottom like 10% of unlocks.
Tomorrow, you're even with everyone.
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u/Firecracker048 12h ago
There are people maxed out already.
A wipe is sorely needed
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u/PloksGrandpappy 12h ago
Catering to the whales is a death sentence.
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u/reboot-your-computer PC 11h ago
More like catering to the unemployed. I have too much stuff going on in my life to deal with wipes like this. I probably won’t touch the game again at this point.
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u/Firecracker048 12h ago
I mean I'm only 60 hours on but imnog t level 25 on all classes and I'm still outclassed by a ton of people
This is gonna help those who don't play alot to be competitive again for a few weeks
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u/Dwealdric 11h ago
The unlock curve is (theoretically, of course) better balanced now, so there will be less of a delta between players who know what grass is, and players who don't.
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u/CottonJohansen 11h ago
Then it’s a good thing that they aren’t (so far). These wipes are mostly meant for balancing purposes. Bulkhead has already stated that there will be more permanent progression options as they continue development
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u/ollydzi 9h ago
Getting to level 20 took like 10-12 hours of playtime... thats all you had to play the last month? Sorry but thats not a game issue, just a work life play balance issue.
Theyre also making it easier to level up season 2
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
10 hours is generous. The early levels are SUPER fast. If you have a mixed playstyle, you can get it in probably less than 5 hours.
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u/ApparentlyRythium 3h ago
I could prolly smash out level 20 in like 2-3 games, between Recon, Piloting, Driving and Support
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u/BurntBeanMgr 12h ago
New season starts at 12PM EST incase anyone wondering
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u/NoteThisDown 5h ago
That does not seem accurate from what I've seen. Source?
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u/BurntBeanMgr 2h ago
Google lol but could be wrong. Usually I check for any game or updates release time and it’s always been correct. If it’s not correct my bad!
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u/NoteThisDown 1h ago
There will be a scheduled maintenance window on October 15th between 08:00 and 09:30 UTC. We estimate roughly 90 minutes of downtime before the new season goes live.
9:30 UTC is like 5:30am EST
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u/SaltyRenegade 8h ago
Hopefully the wipe culls some of the constant whiners.
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u/Warhero_Babylon 7h ago
Be ready for a huge wave of "i open parachute 5 meters before ground why it dont work anymore" posts
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
Other way around, I'll be happy that the game doesn't pop my parachute because I double-tapped space when jumping out of a window.
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u/EPICHunter0077 12h ago
Why does the truck at the start look.. uncanny for some reason? Threw me off at first
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u/ARSEThunder 10h ago
Because you're used to seeing the real dimensions of a Chevy Silverado and this truck had proportions changed enough to be a "generic truck" and not a Silverado.
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u/sundayflow 12h ago
I tried it but the grind in combination with the wipe just isn't for me. Hoping there will be alternative game modes/mechanics in the future because the gameplay itself was really good imo.
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u/DedlySpyder 11h ago
They have an hour long press release video where they touched on progression. Sounds like unlocks will be based on a new currency in the future (intel) that will be obtained differently from xp. No real details on what that means, but they openly admit that the xp grind is shit and is just a quick solution to get the game out and have something for progression.
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u/sundayflow 11h ago
Sounds interesting! Still, our group is going to wait a little bit more. The grind/wipe are not our only gripes with the game but atm they are the biggest.
As I said, gameplay is really good and refreshing between al the fast paced shooters. We will just check it from time to time and maybe after a while it clicks!
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u/GoProOnAYoYo 11h ago
I'm down for a grind, but the wipe killed my motivation to get this game even though everything else about it sounds right up my alley. I get why they do it, but im an adult man, I have a life, if progress gets wiped every couple months I will never achieve anything lol
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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 10h ago
Honestly as someone in the same boat I don't care that much. The only thing I'm trying to achieve is a fun play session and if I can get that by using the starter gear then its all the same for me.
I think for Wardogs it gets dragged down a bit by having things like certain building tools get gated off, meaning you have to heavily rely on higher level players to build better fobs.
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u/UKxFallz 5h ago
Nah also as soon as your opponent unlocks better armor you’re at a significant disadvantage and it’s no longer fun, so the game requires you to grind as quickly as you can to keep up
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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 5h ago
Eh, if it was CoD then that is one thing but I don't mind being an underdog in a game like this where ambush and positioning matters way more than slugging it out face to face.
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u/illicit92 5h ago
Plenty of players have found success by going in with a free setup and scavenging from dead enemies (and teammates too apparently).
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u/uncledungus 3h ago
It’s the easiest way to make money lol I take the free gun then shoot someone in the dick and take their stuff all the time.
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u/tuff1728 9h ago edited 9h ago
As someone who wasnt a huge fan of the wipe at first, let me tell you what kind of changed my mind:
This first season is pretty much a test and is very short, upcoming seasons are going to be much longer and have more things to unlock so it will feel fresh and not like you are just grinding for the same things over and over again.
Plus, without some kind of wipe, this game doesnt really work. If theres not a reset, at a certain point money is not going to matter to people, which is directly going to impact the gameplay because people won’t be scared of overspending or dying and losing their kit. A good example is the revives, if everyone has unlimited cash, nobody is gonna wait for a revive and instead die and go buy a new kit. This will make medics completely obsolete and you can probably find examples for every other role too.
This type of game just doesnt work without some sort of reset, but I completely understand how thats not for everyone.
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u/Razvan_Marian 6h ago
Right on point with the wipes, played Arena Brakeout for a while, got like 750.00k and the game was felling dull and with no porpoise.
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u/SummonerKai1 1h ago
while i am not in favor of wipes in games as well. this game has been such a blast playing from lvl 1 to 100+. To see that progression in not only yourself but the entire playerbase where the highest grindiest player was lvl 30 before and then the avg becomes 40 with 70 being the grinder. it really shows in how games play out SOOO differently along with the fact that you can already play in so many different ways. It's been a blast and I look forward to putting time in.
That and the xp grind just dropped by a whole lot - 45 is the new 35 or whatever. that's crazy stuff.
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u/Dramatic_Specific236 7h ago
the game itself is fun and early season plays very different to mid and late season. It's really fun to see the meta change from FOBs being overpowered and then rocket helis showing up to obliterate FOBs etc. Now is a good time to jump in as early season everyone is on the same level and you wont have to jump into a disparity
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u/Razvan_Marian 6h ago
Game is still in early access, at this time is trial and error, as below comment says, have a good match 2 3 and call it a night.
I'm in the same situation as you, got a job got a life and got limited time so grinding for same stuff for 2nd or 3rd time feels like i better not play the game, but through the changes that they are making, game will feel different or some stuff that at this time are bad or annoying will get fixed or addressed.
Saw some comments that people were complaining about the HAVOC giving less xp when you destroy vehicles and to be removed from game as will be no more fun, lol , like that's the hole game, grind to the HAVOC and sit in air shooting people...
Let's get out of early access and then have a look at the game where has been and where will be.
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u/TheRealDeathSheep 10h ago
I'm adult married man with a life and I progressed just fine. If progression and seeing number go up is all that gives you drive, I get it, but honestly the wipes never bothered me. This is technically the 3rd wipe.
If nothing else, see you on full release when the wipes stop!
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u/GoProOnAYoYo 3h ago
Wait are the wipes only an early access thing? If so my worries are for naught then, that is great news thanks brother.
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u/Outlaw25 2h ago
Yeah, they've been very clear that they're only wiping now in early access because they're still figuring out how the final progression tree will actually work
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u/ZerohasbeenDivided 11h ago
But they're continuing to change and monitor the speed of progression, this next season it takes half as much XP to reach level 20 where the fun stuff starts to get unlocked. This first season was stated to be the shortest wipe there will be as they needed to learn where progression ended up.
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u/flaagan 10h ago
I was getting ready to try it out til I learned about the wipe. I put too many years into Tarkov and just accepting the wipe would happen, only for them to begin drastically alter the game progression to tailor it to streamers and hardcore players as they got closer to launch to try to keep the number of new players (new buyers) going. It ruined the fun of the game, and the fact that you could play a different style (work for the trade market instead of just grind the 'story') and still have fun playing it.
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u/a_little_angry 8h ago
I remember reading somewhere that they have plans for a bunch of different game modes. Team deathmatch, free for all type games. An extraction shooter. Something like battlefield with more players and the jets are incorporated. Unfortunately I think all of that will come much much later. What we have now is very early alpha I am guessing.
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u/DumpsterHunk 6h ago
Meh im used to squad where you get one gun most matches so it feels good to me. Faster more creative. They increased the xp as well
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u/ThinkingTanking 10h ago
Progression is twice as fast now. Check patch notes.
Many things are also moved lower levelsm
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u/Spartanias117 12h ago
Theyve lessened the grind my 30 to 60 percent for certain level ranges. Wipes are also temporary so they can get an understanding of the exonomy, if youd pay just a little bit more attention
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u/sundayflow 11h ago
Dude, chill a bit man. I just shared my opinion, paid enough attention and came to the same conclusion: atm it is not for me, a wipe is still a wipe and slow progression is still.. slow progression.
So, if it is okay with you I'll check it out later down the road.
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u/phxtravis 11h ago
It’s not only how long it takes to go from level 1-20, it’s the fact you have to do it for multiple classes. Or just lock yourself into a few class unlocks. I would like to try artillery, but then I’m stuck driving until I level, which means I slow down progress to unlock the .50 cal that I also want to try.
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u/TheEmoRat 11h ago
Artry is unlocked through total class level not stuck behind driver level. I managed to unlock it way before a lot of the driver unlocks.
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u/icky2049 11h ago edited 7h ago
Just incase some people haven’t listened to the devs talk about wipes. A couple of important notes.
- They prefer not to implement wipes.
- Wipes are good way to test how people are progressing and Early Access is the perfect time to test this.
- The current ”Unlock system“ is a place holder. They have teased a skill tree in multiple trailers.
- The experience that we are earning from season 1 and 2 is being tracked in the back end.
- When they release the new “Unlock system” they‘re going to give us points depending on the experience that we gained for the last 2 seasons.
Lastly, the devs have expressed that if it’s not for you to feel free to come back whenever you want.
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u/ChapterThr33 11h ago
Boy losing progression makes me glad I'm abstaining for now
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u/Eighthday 11h ago
You’ll always be losing the progression bc it’s a game where currency is king. They’ll never let anyone accrue just like you can’t in games like Tarkov. It’s just a type of game where wipes are a core mechanic and it’s about the fun you have between the wipes
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u/TheRealDeathSheep 10h ago
Wipes in Wardogs, just like Tarkov, are meant for testing new systems and settings while in beta. The devs have already stated wipes will not be in the final release.
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u/TheDarthJawa 7h ago
This is literally just false lmfao why are you spreading made up bs. Wipes are going to stay in the game
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u/LPMadness 7h ago
No wipes in final release doesn’t sound right. A game like it needs wipes. End game is only fun for so long.
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u/everythingisunknown 3h ago
Wdym? Wipe is the time to get it as everyone will be on the same playing field
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u/musclenugget92 11h ago
I probably wont return until they make convoys of vehicles feel useful, and ratting bases not be the optimal play style.
for my preferences, I'd rather just play Hell Let Loose
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u/ThinkingTanking 10h ago
You got what you asked for, check patch notes.
Several changes also now encourage ground vehicles.
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u/musclenugget92 9h ago
I really don't see anything that makes ground vehicles optimized. Feels like it's gonna be chopper diving or bust.
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u/NorweiganJesus PC 8h ago
They nerfed parachutes and made choppers more expensive, and made building/mortaring more expensive.
You’ll need more trucks to carry in more supplies, potentially more drivers to carry in ground troops from lack of pilots, some of the gun birds even got nerfed.
Idk what exactly you’re imagining but this seems like a solid first step
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u/Fearjc 10h ago
Ratting in bases is not the optimal play at all it's just hard to counter if people aren't working together.
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u/Dat_Innocent_Guy 8h ago
Disagee. So many times i see poorly built bases that are 1 IED away from access. Or even just a gap built in by design.
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u/Xedeth 9h ago
Ratting bases is not even in the top 20 play styles.
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u/musclenugget92 9h ago
I mean most people were sitting in bases and using binocs to get money when I was playing lol
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u/original_leto 10h ago
I was planning on HLL Vietnam over this but then I read the reviews. Once that is in a better state I'm headed there too.
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u/Aggravating_Rub_9698 6h ago
So many people bought a game that made it clear there would be wipes and now crying they're being wiped lmao
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u/cubs223425 4h ago
The devs really seems to be good about making decisions and listening to players in a way that seemingly escapes studios nowadays.
Stuff like muffling sounds to balance high-tier helmets just doesn't strike me as an approach you'd see from most anyone else. I'm probably 90% happy with their approach here (speeding up leveling being my biggest gripe), but I mostly like that they're taking somewhat creative approaches beyond generic nerfs and buffs to weapons as their balance approach.
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u/420BUNIT 10h ago
Nah, having a PC gateway stops the screechers from swarming in. It's nice to have a mature conversation in-game with strangers without some dumb kids shouting shit.
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u/profits68 12h ago
Yeah I’m done playing after wipe they’re making progression even slower and I’m not grinding unlocks again. Already takes forever to level up after you hit level 10.
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u/xMunchie 12h ago
They are literally making progression faster. It's in the patch notes.
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u/ShuricanGG 8h ago
Is this ragebait? they literally made the grind 25-50% less grindy for most things lol
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u/theyfoundty 10h ago
Resets completely stopped me from playing this. The CS like economy mechanic already had me kinda iffy.
But both combined is just not my thing.
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u/Mysterious_Skin2310 12h ago
Season 2? Isn’t the game in early access?