r/pcmasterrace • u/-git • 12h ago
News/Article Epic Games is releasing a new PC launcher very soon
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u/PoliteQueef 11h ago
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u/Smokey_Bera Ryzen 5700x3D l RTX 4070 Ti Super l 32GB DDR4 11h ago
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u/NebraskaGeek R9-5950x | RX 7900 XTX | B550 Aorus | 4000MHz DDR4 11h ago
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u/IvarSolaris RTX 5080 | Ryzen 7800X3D 11h ago
Yes definitely the thing that bothers me the most with Steam is that my library takes 0.42s to load. /s
If they think that being a few milliseconds faster will move Steam users to their tools they are delusional lol.
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u/splendiferous-finch_ Potato XTX3D-k Titan 11h ago
Of course it loads faster, because your epic library is empty with no real playtime data etc. because you have never used it compared to steam which you unfortunately have been using for years probably. It's a genious innovation you see
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u/Vawned Homonymous 11h ago
I (like many others) grab all the free stuff. I have no idea what I have there cause I cannot see them without installing the launcher, which I refuse to do.
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u/Master_Chief_00117 10h ago
I gave up on grabbing the free stuff, they rarely give anything good (which makes sense) and even if they do I don’t use them.
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u/Stressedhumbucker 9h ago
I gave up on the free games after I tried to log in to claim a title one day and found the website was so broken that I literally could not progress past the captcha. The free games are not worth the stress of trying to log in.
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u/Stargost_ Linux 10h ago
I recommend using the Heroic launcher.
It can integrate with EGS and download your games without ever opening the actual Epic launcher. It can even automatically add the games to your Steam library as a non-Steam game.
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u/GreyKnightTemplar666 11h ago
They could offer a new free game, of my own choice, once a month for no subscription costs, and I still wouldn't switch from Steam to the dog pile shit that is the epic store
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u/o_oli http://steamcommunity.com/id/o_oli 11h ago
What makes me laugh is that they didn't even give a figure on the store launching so it's probably an even smaller increase.
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u/No_Solid_3737 11h ago
Imagine handing out free AAA games and people still avoid using your shit launcher.
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u/01_Mikoru 11h ago
I like how it scanned my files for stream and got my friends list without asking or even telling me it was doing this
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u/TotallyBrandNewName 11h ago
I so far bought Hell Let loose, Control, Death stranding, Batman trilogy on Steam even if I had them on EGS.
Idk if people say it but imo, Epic Games Store just sounds so bad, like those websites we used to play as a kid...
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u/Neirchill 9h ago
I won't even install their launcher to get free games
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u/TotallyBrandNewName 8h ago
I used to but then I started thinking I can hoard all those games but the devs will see their big numbers and no played time and I felt bad for them.
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u/No_Solid_3737 10h ago
Same, I had Control and Overcook on EGS for free, I still bought them on steam.
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u/DonaldTrumpsGolfGame Pro-AI 11h ago
It's also going to be really hard to unseat the community and ecosystem Steam has built for 2 decades. You don't beat that with just faster download speeds or quicker launch times
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u/Roger_Stringpiece 12h ago
Epic are pissing in the wind at this point
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u/Cavalol 9950X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 6000MHz 11h ago
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u/TheStupendusMan 9h ago
Ngl, I thought Criterion was shit posting and wondered if I was still asleep...
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u/gbroon 11h ago
To be honest I've never really had a reason to go "steams too slow".
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u/KristyNoemsZombieDog 11h ago edited 10h ago
Lol, Epic trying to fix nonexistent problems and then presenting them as revolutionary.
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X 11h ago
That was my reaction, Steam is pretty fast. Epic Games Store doesn't need to be faster, it needs features.
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u/rodryguezzz 11h ago
It starts up faster because it has 5% of the features.
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u/frisbie147 11h ago
I mean their old launcher has less features and takes like 5x longer to launch than steam
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u/Larry_The_Red R9 7900x | 4080 SUPER | 32GB DDR5 11h ago
wow epic is really coming along. it took 3 years for them to add a cart feature so people could buy more than 1 game at a time and then only 5 more years for "switching tabs doesn't lag anymore"
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u/Bathelomue 11h ago
"Piracy is not a pricing issue. It's a UI responsiveness issue"
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u/Several_Detective400 11h ago
Can I sort my Library
Can I select what page opens first on launch
Does it actually work properly
Is it available for Linux to screw windows if needed?
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u/Moblam 11h ago
More importantly, will it fucking remember me now? I have to go through the full authentification process every time i start Epic. It doesn't take long, but apparently Epic really cares about being seconds faster now.
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u/DukeofVermont 11h ago
Can I hide or remove games from my library!?
I'm still baffled how this still isn't a thing. Got that free game that you didn't like and don't want anymore? Too bad, it's there forever.
Their "solution" is to make a collection with everything but the one game, then when you open Epic click on that collection so you don't have to see it.
It's so incredibly stupid.
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u/dbltax Noctua Evangelist 11h ago
Oh man, 0.36s vs 0.42s for library load?!
I'm sold, just think of all the things I could do with that extra 0.06 seconds.
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u/AndroidSheeps 11h ago
Literally reads like satire lmao
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u/dogdiarrhea 11h ago
I feel like I’ve been on this email chain where some MBA is like we need metrics to show we’re better and the eng team shrugs and gives them the most random shit they can find.
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u/idlickherbootyhole Frankenstein build 3700x / RTX 3070 11h ago
just put the free game in the bag
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u/RoyHehe 11h ago
To be honest I have gotten free games on Epic Games, but I'd much rather pirate the game than open this dogshit launcher, oh wait I can't even do that officially because I am on Linux, another win for Linux by not having dogshit launchers on there
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u/mehrzweckeier 11h ago
Great... Comparing speed instead of overall usability, because that's what really matters.
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u/Solforge_Mystic 11h ago
Ah yes loading times, the thing really making me think about not using steam.
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u/Yod- 11h ago
wow 0.36 seconds instead of 0.42 seconds... yeah it's time to abandon Steam...
what kind of metrics are those lol
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u/ADotxt 12h ago
Is Steam? No.
Ok next.
The only other games launch I will respect and use is GOG.
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u/StevenTheNerdy 11h ago
GOG Galaxy is unironically pretty sweet! Wish it was slightly more consistent at detecting game installs from Steam and stuff, but I love their launcher overall
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u/PoppingPillls 5800x (A520) / 5060ti / 32GB DDR4 3600mhz 10h ago
My only issue with GOG Galaxy is it's slightly confusing max save game system and less intuitive functionality.
That said I do use it for all my CDprojektred games and my older games.
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u/WorstITTechnician 11h ago
I always think competition is a good thing, leading to better prices and healthier competition that benefits the consumer, but honestly, I don't feel that need when it comes to Steam, and even less so when it comes to Epic
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u/Frooonti 11h ago
I just don't get why they've been burning billions handing out free games for years, paying devs for exclusivity, etc and never touched the freaking launcher that absolutely no one liked. It just doesn't make any sense.
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u/Mr_Fury 3070 | 3600x | 16 GB DDR5 | 2 TB SSD 11h ago
I think they’re done doing exclusivity for now. I don’t think there’s been a new exclusive since Alan wake 2. Unless you want to count gacha games
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u/AymuiLove 10h ago
Gacha games arent a tiny share of the market today. Go look up what type of money those earn if you don't believe me.
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u/EpycZen2 R5 2600|Tuf 1660|32gb 11h ago
Steam has good track record yes, but ownership can change hands any second, good people can get too sick to work/die and get replaced by others who are more focused on the bottom line. Two good rules of thumb are: 1: never have loyalty for a company/brand/{insert category of non-human entity of your choosing here} 2: competition is ALWAYS good
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u/busy_monster 11h ago
I can see the need, however Epic exposed their far more anti-consumer bent when they poached presales and fucked consumers when they launched their store front.
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u/chalogr 8h ago
Yeah as a game developer I completely disagree. Steam taking 30 percent of a game’s revenue is terrible. And the eshop, Xbox store and psn store are equally terrible. I would love to have an alternative store with a large consumer base where I could sell my game and lose 20 percent or less of my revenue to the store owner rather than a whopping 30 percent. It’s not like they are advertising my game or putting it on the storefront with banners.
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u/JigsawLV R9 5900x | 32GB DDR4 3600Mhz | 5070 TI 11h ago
Like a supermarket saying that their bread is 5 meters closer to the entrance than the other supermarket
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u/RedSkullah 11h ago
Love how they didn't even bother comparing it to the current EGL.
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u/busy_monster 11h ago
How else is Tim "Clanker-Throater" Sweeney to get back at Gaben for giving him so many swirlies back in primary school?
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u/ConeHill Desktop 11h ago
The biggest problem with epic is it is a platform favors devs not customers
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u/GibbonFit 5950X | 9070 XT Red Devil | 64GB DDR4 3600 10h ago
Yep. And the whole exclusivity contracts were them trying to force a user base. Tim was all about the developers, but feels he's simply entitled to the customer base. He doesn't realize the best way to attract customers is by making a store that people want to use and not one they have to use.
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u/ApiceOfToast mint flavored :3 9h ago
On the "have to use" thing, I have purposefully avoided games because they were exclusive to epic and I know I'm not the only one.
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u/Alien_Cha1r RTX 5070ti, i5 13600k 11h ago
timmy asked claude to make a new launcher and make no mistakes. and it somehow still ends up being better than humans managed by him, I will laugh
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u/Kyxstrez 11h ago
Knowing Tim Sweeney stance on AI development in video games, I bet it will be vibecoded.
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u/fhiz 9h ago
The first lines of their announcement are “Programming is hard. So, instead of doing that, we vibe coded a new Epic Games Launcher that’s way faster and more responsive than the current one, and has a new look.”
Like Jesus Christ. Billion dollar company, constant lay offs, less than optimized engine like 2/3 the industry relies on and they open up with “Programming is hard LOL.” Fuck offffffff.
https://store.epicgames.com/news/epic-games-launcher-preview
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u/-Weezmo 11h ago
Will it have epicgameslauncher services working in the background when the app is fully closed ?
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u/Darthmullet R7 5800X3D | RTX 3080 TI | 32GB DDR4-3600 11h ago
Quite telling that they say "faster" four different ways but don't say anything about features, almost like it won't have any just like the current store. But will it be training its AI on me...
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u/Macaron-kun 11h ago
None of these "Speed Vs Steam" make any difference. Even if it loaded instantaneously, it wouldn't make a difference. It's not Steam, so it will never beat Steam.
The number of things that Steam has over any theoretical "better" Epic Games launcher is so high that even if it was a literal Steam clone, it would still be vastly inferior to Steam.
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u/Embarrassed_Adagio28 6h ago
Steam has never taken 10 seconds to open in my life so I question every other metric here.
Can someone give me a link to the actual changes because not a single one shown matters even a little bit.
Epic games can eat my WHOLE ASS with their ai policy.
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u/That_Service7348 5h ago
It's important to keep in mind they built this new launcher with AI. And it has less features than the old launcher. It's literally a shittier vibe coded relaunch, and they are proud of that.
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u/SnideyM 11h ago
Oh cool, maybe it'll be easier to use it to grab their free games and for literally nothing else.
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u/Mr_Siphon R5 7600 | 7800XT | 32GB 11h ago
a faster load time to a lesser experience. Exactly what we need
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u/ThePoop_Accelerates 11h ago
Is it centered around the needs and desires of the customers? No? Fuck off.
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u/virgin4ever69 i9-9900k | 32gb RAM | RTX 3060ti 11h ago
> store loads 3x faster
Cmon
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u/Xcissors280 NotProton 11h ago
Can i download games in less than an hour with a gigiabit internet conenction?
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u/RoyHehe 11h ago
Did they even gave a fuck to release it officially on Linux or Tim Sweeney still hating on it?
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u/BossHogGA 5950x / 3080 / 32GB 11h ago
It’s too late. Our family sharing steam library has 5000+ games in it. I get all the free epic games but only spend money on steam because of family sharing.
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u/ItsBitly 11h ago
Cause speed was the reqson people don't like epic launcher. Not the lack of basic community features.
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u/ZombifiedByCataclysm i9-12900KF | Gigabyte RTX 3080 Ti | 32GB DDR5 11h ago
I don't like Tim Sweeney at all, so it doesn't matter how much they improve their store.
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u/Blackarm777 11h ago
Yeah in the beginning it was just about how bad the Epic Store was compared to things like Steam and GOG or even Battlenet.
Now it's about not putting more money into the pockets of a vile scumbag who will go out of his way to even defend stuff like the really fucked up non consensual sexual content people were generating with Grok.
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u/beefjesus69 11h ago
Any time I hear of him it's because he said some stupid nonsense that I completely disagree with.
I only ever downloaded their fuckshit client to claim the occasional free game. Never spent a dollar, never will. They can eat my farts.
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u/ThorsHammer_15 PC Master Race 11h ago
A new Launcher to get the free games 😴
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u/macabrera 11h ago
I have like 50 free games over there, never played once. Why? I don't know, I like free stuff but hate that launcher.
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u/otravoyadnoe 265K | 5070Ti 11h ago edited 11h ago
Great, so the next time I wanna replay the only game I ever bought in that damned store (Alan Wake 2), it will launch a bit faster. Good to know.
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u/neojoe74 11h ago
Someone decompile this and put to bed whether or not China is farming our data.
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u/cubecasts 10h ago
Cool. I'll stick with steam. Does epic even have profile pictures yet?
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u/Parry_9000 ryzen 5600 | Rx 6650 xt | 16gb ddr4 11h ago
It's going to take A LOT to get people out of steam.
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u/Phill721 10h ago
I think comparing themselves to steam is already a bad start. If your only way of attracting users is attacking your competitors instead of offering something new is quite bad
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u/Dr_Valen 7800x3d / 9070xt / 64gb / Cachyos 11h ago
That’s cool epic is still run by epic and steam is still run by valve. Valve has built significantly more community good will than epic so I’ll stick with the company that I know won’t screw me over
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u/Zeta_Crossfire PC Master Race 10h ago
Holy shit a whole 5 seconds faster on start up? Damn, time to move my whole collection over to epic. Dude these guys are a joke
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u/DolanMcRoland 11h ago edited 11h ago
Will games like Fortnite still take 30+ mins for a 450Mb update where 3/4 of that time is spent downloading and writing a handful of packets at a time on a 1Gb/s connection + SSD?
If yes, it's still trash. If no, it's a little less trash.
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u/msherretz 5800X3D 9070XT; Framework 13 11h ago
Yeah, a new launcher won't solve slow server connections
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u/7978_ 13900k, 4080 11h ago
Yeah, load times weren't the problems with the Epic store...
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u/ohaiibuzzle 11h ago
Oh cool so it's faster so it can be closed away faster when opened by accident? /s
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u/TheZoroark007 PC Master Race 11h ago
I only care if they finally managed to make the "Remember Me" button actually do SOMETHING
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u/slowdr 10h ago
But can you load games from a secondary SSD/Drive without the need to reinstall the whole goddamn game, like a caveman?
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u/Sr_Gr 11h ago
I am not changing my preferred supermarket just because the new one offers free bread from time to time and just now it decided it was a good idea to clean up the product halls
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u/OkNewspaper6271 9070xt + 3060 12gb, 9950x3D, 64gb 5600mhz 11h ago
Damn Epic Games finally figured out how to make their launcher load shit faster than a web browser. Nice
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u/Difficult-Badger154 11h ago
"Switches tabs ALMOST instantly" - This is so weird like they were trying to reach a word count and the fact it says "almost" is the worrying part in 2026.
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u/Sethoria34 11h ago
Meanwhile: steam having this nailed down for well over a decade
*shrugs*
Fuck off epic. basic ui functionality should of been done and worked on way before now.
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u/TNFX98 Ryzen 7 5800X - RTX 3080TI - 32 GB 3600MHz 11h ago
After years of that joke of a launcher that took ages to open and then launch anything. That for some reason was incapable of keeping your downloads going smoothly. Now they brag about faster boot time. Yeah sure, I'll believe when I see it
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u/niemertweis 9800x3d rtx5080 11h ago
i dont need faster I need all the features that steam has otherwise no chance
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u/Former_Debt1106 11h ago
Devs will have to work twice as hard to beat steam's launcher(if theyre serious about it, that is)
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u/SnooOwls6052 7800X3D | 7900 XTX | X670E | 32GB 6000 CL30 11h ago
Will it now download from other PCs on my local network, or only from remote servers? Steam does this very well, so only one PC has to take the big hit for the initial download. Epic doesn’t do this. Yes, I know “hacking” this is possible, but that’s just plain stupid.
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u/AbSuRdE____ 11h ago
Does it have steam input, no? Sorry epic, you already lost before joining the fight.
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u/Rasann Desktop 5800XT/RTX 4060/64GB DDR4 11h ago edited 11h ago
They promise much, but will always fall woefully short.
They try so hard, yet their failure will be great.
It’s one of the companies I can’t wait to finally be liquidated, let something else take their place.
You know, implementing services that Steam has been doing for a long time is a better way to use their time, yet they waste what little talent they have left doing this.
Speed means nothing if you can’t offer similar services and reach some sort of parity.
The pathetic keeps getting more pathetic.
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u/AFT3RSHOCK06 11h ago
They still don't have Cloud Saves or Achievement support for far too many games that support both features on Steam, GOG, and Xbox PC. When something like that is the case, it's hard to not look at the launcher as half-assed, regardless of any performance updates they do.
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u/TheCovarr Tinkerer 11h ago
Actually improving their launcher? Good start. Still missing a lot of important social features, but good start.
I'm actually in favor of meaningful competition. Everyone benefits when Epic does something right, and this is a much better use of their money than lawsuits or even more free games that almost nobody will play.
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u/FuzzyAttitude_ 11h ago
0.36 vs 0.42 seconds 1.2x times faster!!! 🤣 What are they smoking, advertising practically imperceivable difference, Steam takes one extra blink of the human eye to load the library, yep, we should tell them about it 😂
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u/robbiekhan 🖥️ 12700KF / 64GB / Zotac 4090 / AW3225QF 11h ago edited 11h ago
This isn't going to go the way they think it's going to go.
I also timed Steam startup on my machine and it timed 7 seconds.
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u/kaveman6143 PC Master Race 11h ago
I'm sorry, but stsrup speed of my game launcher is not a deal breaker for me when my PC never turns off lol
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u/idontlikeredditusers 32gb ryzen 7 5800 9070xt 11h ago
epic improving? cool but its still not worth using for the free games
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u/adamosmaki 11h ago
Yes thats what i care about a store, how fast it opens not features like user reviews
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u/infinitay_ 11h ago
They conveniently left out game updating/install speeds. The problem for me with Epic Games' launcher wasn't load times. It has always been updating/installing. Steam goes without hiccups installing a 100GB game or doing a 30GB update. Epic Games took HOURS to update <15GB on Gigabit internet on an SSD.
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u/EdliA 11h ago
You need features, wtf are they doing. Where is the workshop, forums, community hubs, and your user rating system is too limited. Nobody cares that the app now launches in 1 seconds instead of 1.5 seconds
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u/p1xelwc 7h ago
the final nail in the coffin for steam: 1.8x faster startup time. gaben must be shitting himself out of fear of going bankrupt
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u/Vitchkiutz 11h ago
Is it just me or everything is starting to run like trash?
Our PC's are more powerful than ever, but loading a few tabs is like playing crisis 3.
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u/WingZeroCoder 5800x3D / 4070 Super / 32GB / Lian Li 205m Mesh 11h ago
I know it’s fun to dunk on Epic and all, but the fact that they finally acknowledge that quality and features are actually important to a storefront’s success is a positive step forward.
They have a long way to go if they hope to actually challenge Steam. But I’ll still welcome the competition if and when they get there.
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u/_Addi-the-Hun_ i9 9900k, RTX 2080s 11h ago
Wow it loads the library in 0.36!? Thats crazy, I hate how long it took steam to load that extra 0.12 second
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u/aaplh 11h ago
I love Steam too but I will always welcome competition. I understand reddit has a circlejerk against Epic but I am excited to see if they can pull off a better client
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u/RpiesSPIES 10h ago
The thing with Epic is they've already shown their hand. There is nothing that can salvage their piss reputation. If they somehow magically pulled ahead of Steam, they'd go ahead and enshittify everything they can the INSTANT they think they can get away with it. They already attempted it because they seemed to think Fortnite and a bunch of free games would be enough. Then they keep trying to take Steam down through shells across Europe. Absolute joke of a company and I'll laugh when they go bankrupt.
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u/Zachhandley 8h ago
Idk mate. The problem I have with it is the morality of the people involved. It’ll always eventually go to shit because Tim Sweeney has a heart of ash
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u/bucketman1986 8h ago
They already said that "programming is hard" and the entire new rollout is vibe coded. Go ahead, put your credit card in the AI machine
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u/K4k4shi 9070 XT 11h ago
I have 500 games in epic that I claimed for free. Would love a good launcher
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u/apathetic_vaporeon PC Master Race 11h ago
And still none of the features anyone actually cares about…
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u/YixoPhoenix 7950x3D|Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX|32gb DDR5 6000cl30|1200w|m.2 5tb 11h ago
Yes the 5s startup and 0.1s library load are exactly what epic was missing in comparisonnwith steam. This is groundbreaking Gaben better be scared.
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u/Rakki97 RTX 3060TI, I9-9900K, 32GB 3600MHZ 11h ago
Yay another thing to not look forward to. Yeah it's fast probably because it doesn't contain as many features. It will get slower over time when they add the features people want. Steam is great for their loyal customers, no launcher will ever beat that. The user review system which is brutally honest (as it should) is alone a feature that i will never trade away. Epic did not have this previously.
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u/Wittusus Bazzite | R7 5800X3D | RX 6800XT Nitro+ | 32GB 12h ago
Let me guess, still no user reviews for games?