r/LiveFromNewYork • • 10h ago

Meme Learning Their Lesson: SNL Has Announced Shane Gillis Is Only Welcome To Host Another Five, Six Times Tops

https://www.clickhole.com/2026/10/14/learning-their-lesson-snl-has-announced-shane-gillis-is-only-welcome-to-host-another-five-six-times-tops/
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u/Anthonyhasgame 9h ago

Well, it’s caught national attention. So, they do have to be very excited about that. It’s an attention economy. This is why the internet wants you to feel angry all the time.

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u/Cognonymous Rural N' Blessed 6h ago

Yeah and Lorne capitalizes on controversy. It's why Elon and Trump hosting happened despite the staff being in near revolt.

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u/RedditIsLeBoring 3h ago

Trump hosting might have been the thing that tipped the election the first time around. SNL at the very least directly gave him a push by painting him as relatable and not a rapist scumbag and fraud.

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u/FlamesNero 6h ago

This is exactly what Lorne wanted - guaranteed he feels he got his moneys worth out of this publicity.

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u/ScorpionX-123 5h ago

and guaranteed Shane hosts again next season

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u/RollingMeteors 5h ago

it’s an attention rage economy.

FTFY

The attention is the bank account the rage is the ATM Withdrawal.

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u/RogerGunz2 5h ago

Yeah there's no way they didn't know what they were doing

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u/dkinmn 5h ago

Clickhole again

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u/Dallywack3r 10h ago

I didn’t realize click hole was still around.

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u/enderjaca 8h ago

They still got it too. Gotta love the other article about Shane.

https://www.clickhole.com/2026/10/14/making-things-right-snl-has-donated-1000-to-whores/

Making Things Right: SNL Has Donated $1,000 To Whores

October 14, 2026

If you’re a comedy fan, then you’ve undoubtedly heard about Shane Gillis’s controversial opening monologue on SNL last weekend, where he compared women who wear revealing clothing at the gym to “whores.” Well, there’s no need to boycott SNL, because they’ve stepped up to do the right thing: SNL has donated $1,000 to whores.

And that, folks, is how you keep your reputation as a comedy institution intact!

A representative for the beloved, long-running sketch comedy show said in a statement, “Shane Gillis’s recent jokes about whores do not represent the values of Saturday Night Live. SNL stands by whores no matter how filthy, run-through, and scabbed up they are. That is why we have decided to donate $1,000 to whores, to be distributed via $1 bills scattered around nasty-ass alleyways and drug dens throughout the city.”

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u/Effective-Elk-4964 6h ago

Honestly, it’s bullshit that Shane Gillis starts a problem like this and then Michael Che is the one that has to solve it.

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u/HemHawHeal 6h ago

lmfaoooo ok i do love this add on

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u/hudgepudge 5h ago

"That is why we have decided to donate $1,000 to whores, to be distributed via $1 bills scattered around nasty-ass alleyways and drug dens throughout the city.”

That is gold.

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u/PastafarianProposals 6h ago

This headline reads just like a norm weekend update joke.

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u/biglyorbigleague 10h ago

This sub isn’t gonna like it but the truth is that him saying fuck was the controversial thing at NBC, not the monologue.

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u/Dallywack3r 10h ago

NBC doesn’t give a fuck about the f bomb. There’s someone saying fuck once every season.

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u/amstrumpet 10h ago

Yeah and it made for a somewhat viral clip for shorts on social media which is almost more important than the live show these days. They don’t care.

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u/Lootlizard 9h ago

Che was one of his openers for the huge show he did at the Eagles stadium. They've been close friends for years.

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u/Good-Bodybuilder-985 7h ago

Nah, they didn't perform together in Philly it was at MSG . Just because they've performed together ("friends is generous") doesn't mean they agree with each other.

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u/LiveLaughLinger 6h ago

Friends don't have to agree with each other. It's okay to be friends with people you disagree with. Hell, it's healthy to be friends with someone you disagree with. How else would you get your views challenged or help someone else challenge theirs?

If you think you can only be friends with someone that agrees with you, that speaks a lot about you.

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u/amstrumpet 6h ago

There's a difference between being friends with someone I disagree with over, say, tax policy, and someone who I disagree with over how they treat other human beings.

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u/Dallywack3r 6h ago

I prefer to be friends with people who don’t make women’s skin crawl. That’s just me tho.

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u/jobadiahh Wait til you see the pool 🕶️ 10h ago

I knew there were a few, but did a quick search. Happens more often than I expected, along the lines with the frequency you said.

The second most recent was Sabrina Carpenter who sang it uncensored twice last October. I was curious, she was invited back to the show 3 months later, no surprise. Shane’s fuck up in the sketch won’t be an issue.

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u/Cass_Cat952 popping that beanie back on 9h ago

Sabrina's was because a football game ran very late and delayed the news, which delayed the show. I believe she didnt sing her second song, with the two fucks (that are lyrics in the song), until way later. So the FCC didn't give a fuck either lol

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u/Cass_Cat952 popping that beanie back on 8h ago

The thing that bugs me is it obviously wasnt on the cue card he was staring at. I know live TV is nerve-wracking and shit, but how could someone make that slip??

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u/mostlyfire 7h ago

Sometimes your brain just bagel adds words

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u/Halt96 6h ago

They only care when the FCC actually fines them.

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u/steeveperry 10h ago

They’re also not going to like that he draws an audience that might not typically watch, which is something that benefits SNL.

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u/imjustbettr 10h ago

I mean SNL hosted fucking Donald Trump DURING his campaign. NBC/SNL don't care as long as they get views.

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u/GRADIUSIC_CYBER 9h ago

there's a slight difference between Trump hosting in 2015 and Trump 2026. hindsight is obviously 20/20 and it was pretty questionable at the time, but nothing like what it would be like now.

Not a fiber of my being has ever had a positive thought about Trump, but the optics were severely different last time he hosted. Hilary Clinton appeared in a bit around the same time (didn't host).

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u/Choice-Airline-987 8h ago

Letterman banned Trump in 2011 for promoting the Obama birther conspiracy. He was a piece of shit then as is Lorne for having him host.

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u/Kooky-Blueberry-5352 7h ago edited 7h ago

'Hindsight is 20/20' lol. We have rarely had such a clear view of exactly who someone would be when in power. Literally millions or billions of people saw this going exactly where it went...

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u/secretlives 8h ago

Enough of this revisionist history - Trump was not "questionable" in 2015; he was outright racist and xenophobic.

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u/zachary0816 7h ago

Yeah definitely revisionist. Plenty of his terrible views and ideas were already well known. He even had the whole “build a wall and make Mexico pay for it” schtick in full swing at that point. The man was already quite awful, it just doesn’t seem as bad in hindsight because he kept getting worse.

It also didn’t seem like as big a deal to give him a platform in 2015, because there was a common perception that there was no way such an awful candidate could possibly win….. until he did.

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u/roguevirus 8h ago

And, ya know, stupid.

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u/Wynta11 4h ago

People are conveniently forgetting that the birth certificate shit was just overt racism or that the dude wouldn't rent to non-white people in his buildings. Dude has be an out and open piece of shit going on four decades, I guess when the last decade of his shittiness has been magnitudes shittier than his previous shittiness, the perspective is off.

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u/HA1LHYDRA 8h ago

There was never any question

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u/Ihatereddithatesit 2h ago

Not really no. We knew he was a rapist, fraud, racist, thief, liar, incompetent and all the other things already. There is literally nothing new we learned about him in the following years, just more of the things we already knew.

The idea that the optics were different is completely nonsense.

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u/imjustbettr 9h ago

Sure, but even outside of the horrible stuff he has done in the last 10 years, people knew he was a racist dirt bag for decades. Especially the people of New York.

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u/Moon_Miner 7h ago

trump isn't gonna kiss you, bro

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u/Mick_E_Bobby 9h ago

Bullshit. It was well into the safe harbor hours on the east coast, and edited for the delayed west coast feed.

Unless advertisers pull, which I doubt they will because it surprisingly was one of the more endearing parts of the show, the f bomb will have little to no impact on SNL or NBC.

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u/mike10dude 6h ago

I saw it on the west coast

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u/buttercream-gang 8h ago

They fired Jenny Slate for saying it

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u/SoVerySick314159 Irwin Mainway Sales Associate 7h ago

They fired Jenny Slate for saying it

No they didn't. She dropped the f-bomb in the first episode of the season, she finished out the season and wasn't asked back. Jenny says she just wasn't a good fit for SNL. Surely she'd say it was because of the f-bomb if it was, it's not like there's any shame to it.

This subreddit should know better.

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u/Maleficent-Mud-1322 8h ago

jenny slate isn't one of the biggest comedians in the world

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u/Kids_Love_Baseball 9h ago

Saturday night (as in when it gets dark on a Saturday) is basically a graveyard in terms of TV ratings. It's why SNL has existed for so long—no one wants to take that slot because it's dead. If you can get people talking about some bullshit that happened on TV on Saturday night, you've done a great job. SNL will definitely have Shane Gillis back.

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u/LovelyHatred93 4h ago

They didn’t care about that. That’s why SNL instantly had the sketch posted to every social media platform. Shane brought a lot of viewers their way and for every person mad at him there’s someone who loved it. Nothing negative will happen from this episode and he’ll be back a few times I’m sure.

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u/BillRagoRM 10h ago

We talkin' satire?

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u/T7220 9h ago

We talking practice?

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

The more you post about him the more attention he gets

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u/swass-print 9h ago

Insane amount of coverage about part of a joke

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u/kernpops868 9h ago

Not just part. The setup to the joke was about how women fear him in the woods. He likened the shorts to bait meant to lure predatory fish. He called his sisters “fat bitches.” The whole set was problematic in addition to just being unfunny.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 4h ago

He likened the shorts to bait meant to lure predatory fish.

LOL, he said the shorts were the color of artificial lures. Like they were bright pinks and yellows, the same color that lures are to attract fish. You are just making up things in your head to ragebait yourself now

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u/bitchesandsake 9h ago

And he said he looked like a lesbian, and he said fixing his hair in a certain way is gay, etc. Also the joke about running across a woman on a trail was so poorly setup and he kept trying to imply the punchline to like, zero reaction. Painful lol.

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u/PorkRollEggAndWheeze 7h ago

“Lesbians ugly” is truly a groundbreaking punchline in the year of our lord 2026, really top-notch shit that’s never been done before Shane /s

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u/RebootDarkwingDuck 8h ago

For the first one, that is incredibly relatable for a lot of guys and he's far from the first one to make that observation.

I go for a walks around the block in the evening and whenever I pass a woman on her own I always try to appear non-threatening as possible because I KNOW how I would feel as a woman walking by myself in the dark.

He bombed telling it but I don't see that as problematic. 

Him calling his sisters fat bitches? Ehh. That sounds like siblings fucking with each other, not sexism. Borderline.

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u/nybbas 7h ago

Then doesn't he end it all with him just absolutely ragging on his fat ass self? Like all this shit seems completely blown up for no fucking reason. The monologue got like a small chuckle out of me, it wasn't great, but this reaction is just fucking stupid.

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u/RebootDarkwingDuck 7h ago

I'm not going to defend every line he said. I think some gym outfits push the boundaries of good taste but I also didn't find his joke funny.

But overall, it does seem like people made much ado about little.

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u/hockeymisfit 5h ago

Your last point is spot on. He's talked quite a bit about how they used to beat the shit out of him and bully him(them calling him bitch hips while he was laying on his side as a teen is kind of hilarious). Their dad did the same to the whole family, including the physical part. It was very normalized in their household.

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u/Chef_G0ldblum 5h ago

He needed to workshop that set a little more outside of Austin. Just felt lazy to me.

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u/T7220 9h ago

Cmon. Bitch Hips was hilarious.

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u/mandudeguyposter 9h ago

people who don't engage with standup comedy culture are getting offended while laughing at kirk and 9/11 jokes(I laugh at both of these btw) because gillis is just an average joke writer

All of this could have been avoided if gillis was a better writer funnily enough. He's a decent comedian with good delivery and bits, but he's not the most prolific writer.

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u/chadnorman 9h ago

Lorne knows what he's doing... everyone's talking about SNL

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u/BuggyBonzai 5h ago

I just watched the Lorne documentary on a plane and I think it was Seth Meyers who said Lorne loves controversy and it’s obviously true.

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u/fentown 8h ago

Sure everyone talks shit about McDonald's and Taco Bell, but that's food needed to live. Having a discourse about how bad your TV show is isn't going to interest people to watch...

Unless he only cares about that sweet, sweet YouTube ad revenue. Which then who's going to watch more videos when it's just phoned in celebrities and bits that get more laughs in front of the camera then from viewers?

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u/chadnorman 8h ago

Lorne cares: $8M in revenue per year from YouTube on a $100M production budget, and the SNL channel reaches more Americans than any other YouTube channel.

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u/RogerGunz2 5h ago

I mean, i haven't watched SNL in years but popped open peacock and watched snl just to see what all the fuss was about. Doubt I was the only one by a long shot

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u/Key_Document_2587 6h ago

The national "Shane Gillis hurt me on a deep level" mourning period continues

Jesus Christ. This sub

Shane Gillis post. Shane Gillis post. Shane Gillis Post. Shane Gillis Post.

Tomorrow: Shane Gillis post. Shane Gillis post. Shane Gillis post

Friday: Shane Gillis posr. Shane Gillis post. Shane Gillis post

And some of you actually think it's Gillis' fans who are the offended ones

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u/oldandouttashape 6h ago

Right? Was it a shitty joke? Probably.

Are people entitled to their opinions? Sure.

Is it time for everyone to just shut the fuck up and move on with their lives? Absolutely.

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u/SteeleHeller 5h ago

I’ll just be here waiting for the same energy when Druski says something out of pocket, and he always does. Is it funny? Sometimes. Will this sub keep their opinions consistent? Doubtful.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice 4h ago

It’ll depend on where one falls politically, same as with Gillis.

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u/hyperjengirl New York's hottest club is J E L L Y B O W L. 1h ago

Even better, point out Norm MacDonald or Michael Che's misogynistic jokes, or any other form of misogyny baked into SNL's history, and see how willing people are to have a "conversation" about it.

(Spoken as a Woman who does generally find Che funnier, btw. But he's also probably been more offensive towards women in his jokes than Shane's lukewarm lowbrow monologues.)

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u/Conscious-Work-4714 5h ago

You don’t understand, if I give the whole situation more attention and engagement, the TV show constantly looking to boost ratings will learn its lesson and not do anything like this again. It’s a foolproof plan

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u/el_bentzo 5h ago

I heard theyre already planning to have him as the musical guest

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u/SenorBirdman 5h ago

It'll continue until this Saturday and a new episode comes out. And then it'll go away... It's tedious for sure but I can't see people holding on to this one for long.

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u/GuitarzanWSC 2h ago

Unfortunately, SNL is off for the next two weeks. So whatever outrage captures the Internet's attention next, it likely won't be SNL-related.

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u/Renhoek2099 9h ago

Only Kelly Clarkson is remotely as powerful

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u/leobran816 10h ago

The truth is he is way funnier than his monologues would lead you to believe, I think he's one of the best working comedians right now but I don't understand how he bombs that opening every time

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u/Crash_Test_Dummy66 9h ago

I have such a funny relationship with Shane. I think he has some very funny material. I actually really enjoyed his Netflix special, and I think people often don't give him enough credit for how often the controversial stuff he says is putting himself as the butt of the joke. But every once in awhile, he goes and says or does something that just makes me go " oh for fuck's sake this is why people don't give you any slack." And then I have to reevaluate how I feel about him.

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u/Thefrayedends Too tired to do anything funny 9h ago

I keep eating the downvotes, but I'm not worried about it.

If the litmus test for acceptance of a joke is whether or not they pull off homerun laughter, then there can be no experimentation in comedy ever.

I'm a bit disappointed in the comedians jumping on the hate train, but I can at least understand the ones attempting their own jokes on the subject. The ones that are effort posting the hate are not doing anyone any favors.

And I say this as a universalist leftist, who myself has been marginalized and raised by the foster system, I understand the damage that stigma and cultural attitudes can inflict better than most people.

But if nothing else, it's always interesting to watch the pendulum swings on these topics as different groups dig in, and some self reflect on the discourse, while others dig in and refuse to consider any nuance at all.

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u/khavii 8h ago

You do not work out material on a live, national TV show period. The litmus of a joke is whether the crowd laughs and you need to know if your joke works before bringing it onto a special or live TV. This is the club circuit, this is how it has always worked and Shane is no different from all other comics. He was not trying out new material on SNL. If he did then he deserves the blowback.

He told a joke using a controversial term, and yes the word whore is a controversial term no matter how much you use it. If he had said he went to the gym for the first time in forever and didn't realize all the guys dress like they want a poke in the back during a pride parade it still would have gone over badly because he didn't land a punchline. Do you know what a joke with no landed punchline is called? A statement. That's why using loaded terms in your set is dangerous and leads to frequent backlash, if you don't land the punchline in a way that wins the crowd over, you didn't tell a joke you insulted a bunch of people. This isn't new. In fact none of it is. Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope, didn't hurt anyone, didn't insult anyone, just ripped up a picture and she was blacklisted and had hosts for the following weeks threatening her. Shane called a bunch of people whores. He meant to tell a joke that I assume would have subverted expectations but that isn't what he actually did.

Live a public life as a celebrity you have to expect this kind of thing to happen. The part that gets me are all the fans who think that saying Shane bombed this one and that may have made people think some of the other things he has said maybe aren't just jokes, that's a completely natural reaction to have, it isn't a personal insult to you. Comedy is very heavily subjective and the wrong audience will NOT think it's funny. Shane has bits he calls out as not working in certain parts of the country. He understands it, all comedians do. He fucked up and people are pissed, not that unusual a thing and not something to be flabbergasted at considering every star on the planet gets the same thing. Pedro Pascal gets shot just for being in things and that's despite people agreeing he is good at what he does. You do it too, I promise. There are people out there you could shit talk for hours that other people think are great, this is absolutely no different.

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u/RogerGunz2 5h ago

I feel like that was actually a point he made in the routine. "you're either gay or youre hitler" implying that today, in the USA at least, everything and everyone HAS to be black and white, one side or the other, and there's no room for anyone to be a little bit in the middle.

It's amazing how many people in this thread are calling him MAGA or conservative when he's really not. The same way he's not a liberal or hardcore democrat.

I agree the language is rough, but I don't get how we're not okay with him accusing a made up person of dresslign like a whore, but RuPaul calls his subordinates whores all of the time, is arguably a worse human being, and people just laugh at it. Or everyoen fucking loves Vanderpump rules and three seasons of that show is Jax raping women.

I'm not saying people are wrong for being upset with Shane, it's just interesting who we pick and choose can say what and when

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u/xysid 6h ago

If the litmus test for acceptance of a joke is whether or not they pull off homerun laughter, then there can be no experimentation in comedy ever.

yeah comedians do that for a single set to a room of 20 people in some random comedy club to see how it lands, not on SNL as the host. experimenting is known to cause things to explode in your face, why are you disappointed that an experiment to millions of people that exploded is being talked about negatively?

also "women dress like whores now" is not even an experiment. it's idiocy, it's his true feelings leaking out, not the setup to a joke. he was searching for filler for his actual joke about clothing and thats what fell out of his mouth. and it's not even original. how many people have made jokes about gym clothes and gay muscle men at the gym. a lot.

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u/Sir_Orrin 7h ago

This is how I feel about him. I think he says some questionable things and associates with some questionable folks.

But at the end of the day he’s pretty funny and he’d better at sketch comedy than tons of other hosts in the past few years. He’s funny.

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u/Nicklord 8h ago

He reuses and changes his stories and material to be a bit more edgy than usual for his monologues but he just isn't good enough to pull it off. I don't know why he keeps insisting on doing it.

He's trying to do what Louis CK was doing but Louis was/is a better comedian and was doing those jokes after 30 years in the business so he could read the room much better

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u/nameistakentryagain 10h ago

I went back and rewatched Louis CK’s monologues and he’s just so much better at it than Shane. There’s levels to it. I think Shane’s pretty funny but he’s not on the level.

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u/Affectionate-Bend267 1h ago

I didn’t know who he was until seeing him on snl and asked my spouse “who is this guy and why do they keep inviting him to host?” Because i found him so uninteresting. I don’t get the hype.

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u/rube_X_cube 10h ago

The overreaction to that dumb joke is ten times more annoying than the joke itself.

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u/Rockyrambo 6h ago

Couldn’t agree more

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u/ReceptionMoist3153 10h ago

Who's hosting this week?

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u/Jay-and-Silentb0b 10h ago

I think there's a break until Halloween, and then Inde Navarrette is hosting

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u/ReceptionMoist3153 10h ago

That should be fun

Sidenote: Love Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

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u/Jay-and-Silentb0b 10h ago

Snoogans ;)

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u/Old_Base_9391 9h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/KMuecXG7bC5dC
Jay and Silent Bob hosting would be insane

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u/ReceptionMoist3153 10h ago

What a lovely tea party

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u/3-orange-whips 9h ago

In prison, he’ll be the pie.

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u/MorrowPlotting 10h ago

Inde Navarrette, the female lead from the film Obsession.

So, no grist for the Culture War next week, I’m sure!

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u/3-orange-whips 9h ago

Next week is a rerun

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u/Marco2169 9h ago

I better see the same reaction for Druski when he hosts

I like that he made fun of erika kirk too but he has said some ridiculously sexist stuff in his online content.

Fuck Ive heard Che say some stuff that Im surprised this sub didnt react this way to.

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u/No-Cantaloupe-6535 9h ago

Druski was at Diddy parties

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u/rvasko3 7h ago

Che's most recent special would send half this sub into a coma.

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u/bitchesandsake 9h ago

I think you can say whatever you want as a comedian, if it's funny. This issue is SG did a really shitty job setting up that joke, so it just.. wasn't funny. I don't think it's worth all of the bullshit articles and the reaction on this sub necessarily, but it was in poor taste and deserves to get shit on. I think he knew what he was doing.

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u/Marco2169 9h ago

I think we are in agreement. By the third hosting you would think he would know his audience and to bring less lazy material.

I have laughed at Shane’s stuff but that monologue was rough. If it was his first on SNL id get it but its your third rodeo

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u/holadilito 9h ago

I know right. Che rightfully gets a pass because he’s telling jokes

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u/Temporary_Ad9362 8h ago

if druski says something blatantly sexist in his monologue then sure. but i’m not sure that will happen

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u/JOMO_Kenyatta 8h ago

Druski gets hate for skits he don’t do and skits he does do. I know what you’re trying to do and you’ve got a narrative already written down. But this aint the guy to do it to. He gets ton of hate already anyway

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u/poet1cs 9h ago

I respect people who think the joke was bad, I don't respect people who think the joke was offensive. It was tame compared to dozens of jokes told by Colin and Che.

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u/WinkyWinkyBums 8h ago

I keep saying this. You can joke about anything as long as it’s funny. There are 1000’s of ways to make fun of women’s gym clothes, “Women are whores” just isn’t a good punch line.

When Che makes these types of jokes he isn’t trying to get the audience to agree with him, him being a creep/shitty person is the punch line.

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u/CrispySpicy 8h ago

Shane’s punchline was similar in that he was ultimately making fun of how stupid he looks ogling in the background but the set up sucked

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u/BubbleThinker 7h ago

It hits too close to home to be funny

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u/Zestyclose_Gap4655 8h ago

This is basically the take I’ve settled on personally as well, but in our world these days you are either for/against, ally/enemy, there can be no middle ground there can be no nuance.

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u/ZiggoCiP 5h ago

Che is actually a fascinating comedian when he's not doing his segment. If half the people who like his bits with Colin knew how his actual standup routines were outside of SNL, they'd probably change their tune on him. One of his big ones is his "I'm trying to bring the R-word back" routine.

It's honestly not bad, but obviously would rub a big section of people who are anti-R-word the wrong way.

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u/Thefrayedends Too tired to do anything funny 9h ago

This is the most clear and succinct take I've seen yet, I've been trying to articulate this point several times in a much more verbose way, but you really nailed it, thank you.

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u/ClarkeBrower 8h ago

A small percentage of the online fans look at Shane as the political enemy so of course they will treat him differently compared to Jost/Che

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u/persistingpoet 9h ago

Good thing it doesn’t matter whether you think it was offensive or not. I know a lot of men who are very pissed off about referring to women exercising as whores who look like artificial bait. We’re having another national reckoning with rape culture and jokes like this can be both unfunny and offensive.

Colin and Che don’t use slurs.

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u/Soft_Transition_6483 1h ago

Whore is not a slur lmao It’s a curse word and is derogatory but is by no means a slur. Also Che and Michael have literally made Nick Kerr jokes

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u/milesper 8h ago

Colin and Ches most famous segment is them telling offensive jokes under the framing of “look what Che/colin is making me say”. Many of those jokes use equally/more derogatory language than “whore”, which is not even really a slur

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u/Quasi-Yolo 8h ago

But the point of the segment is “this is something offensive to say”. Unless you’re making the point that his whole monologue is, “I am a creep and I say offensive things” it really isn’t the same. His monologue clearly wasnt a “creep character” since most of it read as sincere observational humor. People keep conflating self depreciation with “offensive character”. Take South Park(which I am not entirely defending just using as an example). For the most part, the most offensive things are said by Cartman because he is the character that is written to be the asshole and is treated as such. And sincere things are normally said by Kyle or Stan. Matt and Trey are writing both characters but who youre supposed to see the joke is on depends on the character. Shane doesn’t play a character, he does observations with some self depreciation. It’s really different

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u/milesper 8h ago

Yes, the difference is they frame the jokes in a way that an upper class moderate lib doesn’t feel bad about laughing at it. But the jokes are fundamentally just as offensive. If we’re going to moral police the content of the joke, then the framing doesn’t really matter.

And I would argue that actually is Shane’s whole shtick as a comedian. His persona is “guy who says off-color stuff but deep down is a liberal”.

That said, I’m not his biggest defender and I think he’s too friendly with actual rightwing figures, which is a much bigger issue than using crude language

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u/Quasi-Yolo 8h ago

Framing totally matters. All jokes have some truth to them. An offensive joke said with sincerity is asking you to agree with some truthful aspect of the joke itself. An offensive joke said by “offensive character” is asking you to understand that only a piece of shit would think that. I think it’s ok to laugh at how fucked up people can be. I think Shane delivered the “women are dressed like whores” line with as much sincerity as the rest of the monologue which was pretty sincere. And he hangs out with Right wing people, goes to right wing events, takes photos with Donald Trump, makes offensive jokes but really he is secretly a liberal? And his persona is “guy who says off color stuff but is deep down a liberal” or “guy who says off color stuff” but is deep down a liberal? Is the character deep down a liberal or is he deep down a liberal?

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u/GrayEidolon 5h ago

He’s asking us to laugh at what an offense oaf would say, but he just also is an offensive oaf.

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u/Thelmara 7h ago

And I would argue that actually is Shane’s whole shtick as a comedian. His persona is “guy who says off-color stuff but deep down is a liberal”.

"Guy who only pretends to be an asshole, but he's always in character, so in the end, he's just actually an asshole."

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u/GrayEidolon 5h ago

They make plenty of jokes that boil down to “women are bitches”.

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u/The_Great_Goatse 8h ago

I respect that you’re offended, but you’re disingenuously paraphrasing what he said.

He was talking specifically about shorts that are “artificial bait-colored.” Which is a reference to the neon colors used for artificial fishing lures.

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u/Slipperytitski 9h ago

If he had just said they dress like the whores in Grand theft auto itd be fine.

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u/HotSauce2910 8h ago

Bros only mistake was not saying “in a videogame “ afterwords 😔

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u/Slipperytitski 7h ago

I mean the outfit he’s describing is basically what the prostitute in Vice City wear

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u/cavyamador_wins 9h ago

Given SG's history and how he was unceremoniously let go right after his hiring and the already muddy, controversial lead-up to this moment, I'd say he was already not at the good grace of SNL audience, and that Che and Colin can def get away with it more than he can.

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u/freedom_french_fries 8h ago

Exactly. This stuff isn't interpreted in a vacuum. Things like someone's past and the company they keep absolutely shade how people will react, as it should. 

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u/InconspicuousD 10h ago

I think the sentiment in this sub around Gillis as well as comedy today is the same reason for why the show is struggling to bring in new viewers over the past ~20 years.

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u/iamawfulninja 8h ago

I feel like people are too attached to the show.

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u/BeckBennettOfficial 9h ago

Is it struggling? Most of the people I ever see in line for standby are young. 

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u/InconspicuousD 9h ago

Ratings have been relatively stagnant over 20 years, which is why I used that number. The 18-49 demographic has also been shrinking.

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u/pnw_cartographer 9h ago

Bro this lame subreddit would HATE George Carlin if he was doing current comedy today.

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u/chrico031 8h ago

I don't recall George Carlin being blatantly misogynist and bombing so hard that he basically had to pull the Jeb Bush "Please clap" at the end

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u/AlarmSquirrel 5h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH5DCIf1bRI

Here but people like don't actually listen to carlin you just see that same quote always posted

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u/KiowaBear 7h ago

SNL hasn’t been getting this much attention in a long time

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u/rm_can_suck_it 6h ago

I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I have a question:

Doesnt the SNL production staff review the monologue before its broadcast? Isnt there a 'dry run' prior to broadcast in front of a studio audience to gauge how well skits and monologues/jokes are working?

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u/killerbrofu 6h ago

SG generated a lot of online content for the show and for content creators. I don't see how that's a bad thing

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u/Tallgirl4u 8h ago

Jerry Seinfeld proudly said at a recent show “it’s a genocide I’m down with it, I’m gonna send money to Israel” and I’ve seen like one or two posts about it but everyone wants Shane’s head on a stick. This timeline is so dumb.

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u/thefoag 8h ago

Don’t forget Kelly Clarkson mad about a bird toy! (Seriously though, wtf Is going on?)

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u/Chet2017 4h ago

Shane Gillis is a hack. So is the idiot with the puppets, Jeff Dunham. The fact that both of them are extremely popular with certain audiences shows how dumbed down American culture has become.

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u/RumDrinkingGoose 1h ago

Why you got to bring puppets into this

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u/hitapita 1h ago

Has Jeff Dunham done anything newsworthy in the past 15 years?

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u/GreatStateOfSadness 1h ago

Also if we're bringing up the decline of American culture, why bring up the guy who is arguably the last of a once-popular-but-now-nearly-extinct style of entertainment? We might as well call out Carrot Top while we're at it. 

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u/TrashFever78 22m ago

This is such a dumb take.

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u/Left_Entrepreneur918 5h ago

This show is horrible now, everyone is phoning it in, each week is worst than the last. Seriously watch early 2010 and now, it’s night and day

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u/aresef 5h ago

The show’s always been “horrible now.” Always complainers.

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u/realhumanthoughts 3h ago

Hasn't it been forever and people say this in cycles it seems. SNL is weird because it tries to get quite good intelligent writers and cast sometimes and be more high level, but also wants mainstream appeal and to be safe intellectually and politically all the time. Tries to have it both ways and is largely bland, cringe and has no teeth in a lot of ways because of it.

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u/superbackman 2h ago

“Not gonna phone it in tonight
Not gonna go through the motions tonight
This time I’m really gonna do the best I can!”

https://youtu.be/GXBPW0_B5I0?si=W_P3LQMWErnoLdAn

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u/akw314 9h ago

Jesus shut up already about Gillis. Move on.

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u/burtoncummings 9h ago

Personally, name dropping Joe and Theo was the crudest bit, just eye rollingly unnecessary. Like, really seemed shallow as fuck.

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u/Quasi-Yolo 8h ago

I mean he also claimed lesbians are fat which is straight out of edge lord internet garbage. It’s not like Joe and Theo are that much more crude than he is. There is a reason they are friends.

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u/LanaDoe99 6h ago

Pretty sure it's because Rogan is known as the sauna guy? He's almost taking aim at his persona. Same with Theo, who you can really picture saying something like that.

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u/SlartibartfastMcGee 5h ago

It was also probably a real story, and without the context of being at Rogan’s it sounds kinda weird to bring up.

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u/ShortBrownAndUgly 7h ago

I don’t think snl really gets hurt either. Is anyone going to stop watching snl cause of one joke? No. Will more people maybe check it out since the show is making a bigger splash than usual? Most likely.

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u/MotelSans17 6h ago

I don't believe one second that he's playing this 4D chess

He just seemed to not care. Which still works the way you said, but I don't think he bombed on purpose. The bit was extremely low effort, he seemed like he didn't prepare and just winged it.

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u/Unrelenting_Salsa 4h ago

He didn't bomb outside of a very narrow social media bubble. He did the kind of routine he always does and got a ton of laughs that apparently people are just ignoring. "Slightly awkward blue collar guy who doesn't really care if you're offended" is kind of his whole character.

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u/MikeAwksbig 10h ago

It seems like people can't stop talking about him. They would be foolish to not have him back on the show

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u/Winterfrost15 7h ago

He was awesome!

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u/isabee1467 6h ago

Crazy that a guy that goons over teenage girls as an adult has neanderthal level takes on women's fashion

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u/Cravenmorhed69 5h ago

I don’t think I’ve ever looked forward more to an upcoming show than this Saturday.

Not because I love the host or musical guest, but so people can finally shut the fuck up about Shane Gillis.

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u/ElectronicEntry9047 4h ago

That’s the best news I’ve heard so far today!!!
Sweet!

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u/Fair-Calligrapher-19 9h ago

He's consistently one of their best hosts.  Hope he's back soon

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u/BYCjake 10h ago edited 9h ago

It’s the only time anyone ever talks about the fkn show of course they’re gunna have him back, probably next time the president needs a distraction because he wants to live stream and monetise an execution, isis style

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u/medyolang_ 8h ago

I just hope this helps the sub realize their opinion don't really matter in the big scheme of TV things, stop watching the show as protest, and start living their lives without this toxicity.

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u/ninjaraiden56 7h ago

Lazy joke but not offensive. The people who are kicking and screaming about this are why people can’t stand SNL and its fanbase anymore.

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u/Del_Parson_Painting 7h ago

How nice that you are the arbiter of what is offensive.

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u/214forever 6h ago

Lazy jokes are offensive.

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u/UrbanAlaska 8h ago

In other news, Trump is scheduled to return to host after his 3rd presidential term ends.

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u/EricBardwin 7h ago

Well, y'all keep generating clicks for him, so, yeah, checks out. Just an entire society gladly deepthroating the ragebait. 

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u/CreamdedCorns 7h ago

The gym clothes whore trope has been repeated so many times. The only reason this dude is getting attention is because he's right leaning. We know they think women are whores, why continue to drive engagement for him?

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u/RogerGunz2 5h ago

He's not right leaning. His friends all are but most of his stand up is about how stupid the right is

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u/Jealous_Difference44 10h ago

He made one bad joke. Im fine with it

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u/Accomplished_Egg7069 7h ago

That headline is actually funnier than anything I've heard Gillis say

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u/lionovoltron 6h ago

He got a lot of you complaining for days. I’m 100% sure the people at SNL and Shane love trending.

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u/Aspe4 10h ago

The writers and the cast must really like Gillis; I believe it was in 2022-2023, he hosted twice in less than a year.

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u/jjb0ne 9h ago

his videos get they most views by a lot.

snl loves shane

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u/MyMilkyNuts 5h ago

You guys love Shane on this subreddit!

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u/RegularLocal5050 9h ago

This sub is never going to move on from Shane Gillis

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u/theAutodidacticIdiot 9h ago

Finally a funny post about this and not just crying over a lukewarm basic joke.

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u/MrCornBluff 9h ago

Thank God they are calling it at six more times 🙄

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u/holadilito 10h ago

Good. He’s hilarious.

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u/Over_Drawer1199 10h ago

Some of his bread and butter in his comedy specials is about how hot teenage girls are and how hard that is for him because he knows it's wrong. I don't understand how anyone finds him funny.

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u/holadilito 10h ago

His bread and butter is self-deprecation, impressions, American history, sports, family dynamics, and absurd observational humour. Reducing his entire comedic style to jokes about teenage girls is a pretty bizarre take. Which specials are you watching? What is that teenage bit from?

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u/BoredandMiffed 10h ago

Definitely a creep. I don’t think the thought occurred to him that the “whore” joke just made him look like the creepy guy at the gym that stares at everyone

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u/dotnetmonke 10h ago

Really, you don't think he thought of that? You mean like when he (seconds later) says, "I'm in the back of like ten TikToks right now, just like (insert creeping face)"?

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u/Dazzling-Pear-1081 10h ago

That was literally the entire joke dumbass. He said these women are dressed like whores and then said he keeps getting caught staring in their TikTok videos.

Did you even watch the monologue?

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u/1egg40eggs 10h ago

That's literally the entire bit lmfao

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u/childfiller 9h ago

That was literally the joke lmao

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u/Old_Measurement1921 10h ago

I have a feeling you became aware of his so-called “bread and butter” over the last 3 days. I have never heard him say anything like this in anything I have watched.

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u/BoredandMiffed 10h ago

I never get that. Go to New England and he’s a dime a dozen.

He’s run of the mill

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u/holadilito 10h ago

If New England has comedians like Shane Gillis a dime a dozen, you’d think more of them would be selling out arenas. Where are the other eleven?

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