Learning Their Lesson: SNL Has Announced Shane Gillis Is Only Welcome To Host Another Five, Six Times Tops

[u/aresef]

https://www.clickhole.com/2026/10/14/learning-their-lesson-snl-has-announced-shane-gillis-is-only-welcome-to-host-another-five-six-times-tops/

[u/Quasi-Yolo]

Framing totally matters. All jokes have some truth to them. An offensive joke said with sincerity is asking you to agree with some truthful aspect of the joke itself. An offensive joke said by “offensive character” is asking you to understand that only a piece of shit would think that. I think it’s ok to laugh at how fucked up people can be. I think Shane delivered the “women are dressed like whores” line with as much sincerity as the rest of the monologue which was pretty sincere. And he hangs out with Right wing people, goes to right wing events, takes photos with Donald Trump, makes offensive jokes but really he is secretly a liberal? And his persona is “guy who says off color stuff but is deep down a liberal” or “guy who says off color stuff” but is deep down a liberal? Is the character deep down a liberal or is he deep down a liberal?

[u/GrayEidolon → u/Quasi-Yolo]

He’s asking us to laugh at what an offense oaf would say, but he just also is an offensive oaf.

[u/milesper → u/Quasi-Yolo]

Jokes don’t actually require you to agree that they are true! That is a very weird view on comedy. And I would never assume anything said by a comedian in a comedy set is “sincere”

[u/Quasi-Yolo → u/milesper]

Jokes are only funny because some degree of truth set in reality. I’m not saying you have to agree with the words but agree with the truthful aspect of the joke. Obviously some absurdist comedy breaks that but Shane does observational comedy. He presents himself as an observer making observations that are truthful from his perspective. He is making these observations as Shane and the humor comes from the truth in them. If I told a joke that started out as “have you ever noticed that only [insert group] commits violence?” You probably wouldn’t find it funny because you have observed more than one group of people commit violence and would probably question what world view the comedian has. It could of course be a sarcastic joke about media representation or again playing a racist role. But that depends on the rest of the joke. Shane instead says “women dress like whores” then goes on to describe how the way they dress is whore like. And the punch line seems to be “but they consider me a creep for looking”.

[u/milesper → u/Quasi-Yolo]

Yeah so all that is to say that you didn’t find the joke funny, which I agree with. But if you believe there must be some element of truth, then in this case it would be that women’s gym attire has gotten more revealing, which is just objectively true.

[u/Quasi-Yolo → u/milesper]

Thank you now we can have a conversation. My problem is that the jokes is not funny and not true. For one, workout clothing has been revealing since like the 70s. Look back at old gym videos and you’ll see tight spandex and low cuts. It’s nothing new. And he only criticized women when men workout in just as revealing clothing. Just as many thirst trap gym dude influencers as women. It’s ironic he brought up the beer commercials he was in playing during football games. Not sure if you’ve seen the junk displaying pants they wear but it’s how athletes dress. Shane isn’t an idiot. He knew exactly what he wanted to say, exactly how we wanted to say it and exactly what the reaction would be. All of this just to get the chance to say women look like whores. It’s beyond undunny

[u/milesper → u/Quasi-Yolo]

Well it wouldn’t make much sense to bring up guys since the whole joke is about him looking creepy for staring. And no, workout clothes in the 70s were not exactly the same, let’s not be ridiculous.

[u/Quasi-Yolo → u/milesper]

He started with “women at the gym dress like whores now” then paused for laughter. And he doesn’t even call him self a creep. He just did a facial expression of him staring. And the whole “you’re not allowed to look” is the classic “women dress like whores but I’m wrong for looking?” Schtick. And if you’re going to say “him being a creep is implied”. Why make the “punchline” implicitly and the set up of explicit as in calling women whores but not calling himself a creep?

[u/milesper → u/Quasi-Yolo]

You’re right, he should have prefaced the joke with a ten minute explanation of the punchline and an explanation of why he doesn’t mean it in an offensive way. That would have been much funnier