OP is right, github is not a platform specifically for developers its also where the developers upload their shit and it is on them to make the installation process as easy as possible, that means a clear and easy to find download button and an exe or .zip
Just yesterday, I found a repo which had an instructions.md file with "Please ask your AI agent to install". Soon, no one will know what, where and how things are happening in their own devices. Just terrifying!
I know this is a sarcastic question but for anyone looking for a guide:
• Look for "Tags" and click it, or if you're on phone/tablet, three dots [•••] near "Code", look for "Tags" and tap on it.
• The latest version is usually at the top, or scroll down to see anything that doesn't say alpha/beta/pre-release and click on it.
• Then the files you're looking for should be in the "Assets" section (anything that doesn't say "source code").
(exe/zip for windows, dmg for mac, apk for android, ipa for ios, "it depends" for linux and zip if its something else)
For Linux, if you are unsure, pick either:
1. AppImage, it's a portable executable, one file that contains the program and all its files,
2. tar.gz, it's just an archive (any pre-installed archiver can open it) that contains the program, like zip for Windows, but zip, while is supported, isn't popular on Linux.
What is shocking me almost even more is the fact that this apparently only 2 years old. I thought this copy pasta is more like 10 years old for some reason.
Shut up. Shut up. Anything that is intended to be used by people has a releases section. Idiots who say “WHERE’S THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON?!!!!!!??” are too stupid to figure the easiest things out
OpenAI is already rolling out a feature that predicts your next prompts and suggests them based on how you've prompted before iirc. From what I've seen from some devs, it's accurate about 30-40% of the time. And this is the worst it will be.
Not sure I'll ever get on board with the idea that if you have an idea but not the skills to actualize it you should shut up... I feel like while the rest of us coders are shitting on AI and AI generated code, non coders are just 👍🏽👍🏽 and building their stuff. Is the stuff 100% good and secure? Nope. Will it make them money? Nope. But does it work to solve a need they have that they couldn't get a coder to help? Yes... Absolutely yes... Ai has allowed people with an idea but no clear path to actualize it to lead with their creativity. And I respect that.
That’s the thing, it’s not about the AI but rather your intentions.
I’ve built so many personal tools that fit and adapt to my workflow that would never work for anyone else. I’ve even built an app for a 10+ year kindle that connects to my computer and acts like a little companion/controller that would’ve otherwise become ewaste.
If I tried selling it instead of open sourcing it, I would’ve been met with pitchforks, but kinda rightfully so imo.
Yeah let me pay for a subscription for and support the owners of the Legal Child Porn Machine That Steals Jobs
But it's okay because I'm not personally using it for legal child porn or stealing jobs, I'm just monetarily supporting them despite both of those things because I want Pomni Digital Circus in Minecraft.
Anthropic and Claude are pretty proud of themselves for doing the exact opposite and take the moral high ground, to the point that they hold the rights to cancel your use if you are being excessively mean to Claude
Nah mate. I just hate ai because it caused the SSD and GPU shortage crisis and also accelerate global warming by consuming a metric fuck ton of water, power and land to produce a lot of heat and also people are using it to produce garbage and misinformation online which then feeds back into the ai again and also is causing layoffs because companies are trying to embrace and replace their workforce with ai instead
Also while ai allows people to realise their ideas, often times it also show holes in their concept which a lot of people then don't know how to patch up because they don't understand how they made it in the first place. It's like a middle manager trying to assemble a car but they don't even know the instructions or parts. The real coders are the one that knows how to code and use ai for the more repetitive and menial tasks.
But this is about programming and code…
One of the biggest rules for coding anything, and even instructors will tell you, is to Google and check if it exists because if it does, copy and paste it. Not to mention, open-source is highly valued in these spaces. It’s all about efficiency and automation in code, especially Python.
I mean yeah but personally, being what I would consider a junior dev. Some of my code is quite complex and having it used by a non-profit indie dev, i couldn't care less, but a big company like OpenAI? Fuck them
That’s fair! I see it as just another tool, especially since they work through the terminal or VS Code if you don’t want the CLI. Coding can be a headache as it is, so whatever people use to feel comfortable with theirs is entirely up to them. I still enjoy hand-written code, but Claude genuinely assists with efficiency. I just use it to help rather than do everything.
The labs aren’t really interested in “taking” it, either. But I get the worry and perspective. Local models are great for avoiding a lot of that, thankfully.
Yeah, but isn't that for the "small" stuff--like, specific loops and functions--while the big stuff, like defining systems and how they interact with each other, has to be done with more intention?
Given some of the decisions POs and PMs (and the all-knowing upper management) have made about software implementations where I work, I would have quite honestly preferred AI.
Non-software engineers genuinely don't understand the culture we software engineers have. There is a deeply engrained culture of sharing absolutely everything we can. Businesses need closed software to exist, yes, but everything else is completely and utterly open.
Essentially zero software engineers are posting their code online and expecting nobody to learn from and copy it.
I can agree to an extent, but half of coding is just googling it when you don’t know what to do. Understand it if you can, but sometimes just copy and paste and hope it works.
The only iffy part is AI using open-source knowledge to make a profit, but like, everybody else already does that. It’s called a tech business. I guarantee you near every application you use has some sort of code copy-pasted from stackexchange.
Well I hear that and where are is is partially true I think very little about human work is original in the grander scheme of things.
One of the reasons why humanity has thrived over other species is the ability for human knowledge to be cumulative across successive generations. We learnt fire, then some dude put meat in the fire and ate it. Xxx thousand years later we all do that. That like saying we shouldn't cook our meat because it isn't an original thought for the person cooking. I know this is a false equivalency. Just trying to illustrate my point.
That feels like a false equivalency. Painting a picture is no where near as complicated as spinning up an app. My 2yr old can take a paintbrush and paint a sun. She absolutely CANNOT type out "hello world".
When I was in school there was always a big hullabaloo about us using information from Wikipedia and Google to do projects and stuff
The older folk of the time would say "this is laziness and you should go to the library find the book to do the assignment"
This feels like that.
The barrier to entry has been lowered. Guys are going to build stuff. There's no stopping them. The only difference between people is no longer whether you can build the code, it is now, how creative can you be. How grand is your imagination. While we sit and debate that "ooooooh these guys shouldn't do it this way. They should go to the library and read the entire book on python and html so they learn to do it right" they're just going to continue building.
They aren't going to build stuff is the point. They'll have stuff built for them, never learn how it's made, never learn how it works, never learn how to tinker with it, optimise it, make it theirs. They haven't made anything, what is there to respect?
An analogy I have given on another comment, Steve Jobs did very little in the creation of actual apple products. With his own 2 hands. Do we respect him or value what he helped create?
And twelve years ago Elon Musk was treated like some Tony Stark; despite his only "genius" invention (that he did not solely create) being an online banking/money service, while riding on cobalt-mine apartheid money. 'He' didn't innovate or really create shit.
So yes; The head of a company often gets way over-credited. Even someone I personally like, such as Hideo Kojima, is affected by this. There are way more people involved in his success than himself alone.
This is an artist, who believes the purpose of work is to be respected, arguing with an engineer, who believes the purpose of work is to produce something functional.
The treadmill of programming becoming gradually easier leading to lower skill programmers being able to do more has been going on for decades. It's a solved dilemma. If you think programming exists as a way to demonstrate your huge brain, you're welcome to code in assembly while everyone else makes what they want 1,500x faster than you and with fewer bugs.
Absolutely. I am not implying we should meaningfully prevent anyone from using it; I don't care if someone wants to spend their time making AI "art", writing moronic papers while citing AI as their source, or talking to it like a friend.
It's the people who think prompting an AI to do something for them is the same as they themselves creating it, that I take issue with.
Yeah you instead say you commissioned it. And actually there is a very long tradition of commissioning things and claiming you made them (ghostwriting!)
I don't entirely agree that you can boil down something as complex as meaning of anything let alone art and human expression to only 1 thing.
More likely meaning is derived from a complex array of factors among which yes effort would play a part.
Creativity is another factor I think contributes to meaning. Of which for me I believe AI doesn't entirely infringe when a non coder uses Ai to build an app.
This person has an idea. A thought of which they feel they can't find anywhere in the way they envision it. That part is what I consider the creativity.
Sure they spend 0 effort to learn the skill and minimal effort to deliver the vision to reality but to say they did nothing assumes even that idea isn't theirs.
I'd argue actually alot of humanity is like this. Steve Jobs did t create apple with his own 2 hands. He had the vision and had other people execute it. He didn't put in as much effort as he would have if he did it all himself. So with that analogy is apple not valuable or meaningful?
Steve Jobs still required some pretty intense amount of knowledge to properly command and maintain those people though. One concern I have with AI is how the barriers have dropped so low now, that people lacking even the most rudimentary capacity for what they want to make are able to flood platforms with no-effort content.
Many mediums have long mocked the 'ideas guy' for generally just being a fountain of useless concepts that have no basis in reality or capability. Since the AI boom we are now apparently supposed to treat the ideas guy with respect, even if they just put a few sentences in a chat and let the agents go ham on it until it vaguely represents what they wanted.
And worse, when the AI likely spits out a just barely usable result, it's treated like it's fine, while any human in that situation would likely be demanded of reworks and rereworks to make it exactly like the ideas guy had it in their head.
Yes, and btw the hard part of developing software wasn’t about coding, it always ways about designing understanding and choosing which feature to implement.
But if you want to have good ideas and design you still have to study, not syntax as before but software design.
Personally as a PhD in Data Science I am happy I can dedicate more time in studying the fundamentals and the theory of what I am doing the just coding on shitty python libraries all day, I fricking hate Matplotlib and fucking PyTorch so annoying !
I mean if that's the threshold you're going for nobody has ever actually made any piece of software. Even humans write bad code and accidentally put in vulnerabilities
But VR mods for games that wouldn't have got a VR mod, is a problem to be solved.
Art and music are not "problems" that need "solving". People just use the fact that AI image generators are trained with other artist's art, to hate on AI software. As if most software wasn't created by copying code from others. Any programmer worth their salt has copied and pasted code from StackOverflow lol.
You don't like AI VR mods? Good.
Myself though? I'm eating good when it comes to VR mods made with AI.
you dont use claude and creativity in the same sentence, and there is the whole memory shortage thing making ram and ssds in particular disgustingly overpriced and dont get me started on how much slop there is everywhere. ai "art" ai games ai posters ai everything and it all sucks ass. i dont respect it at all
Im fine with AI being used to help with code optimisation and troubleshooting. It does speed up progression after all, but half of the time its mostly vibe coded with little to no human input or testing that its too buggy and barely works
yeah honestly source code that isnt decomped is a pain
like all those roblox stolen game using thingamajigs always had unreadable vague code and i was always so dissapointed to not get to learn/see how the game works 😭 i cant imagine doing that at all
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Guy on GitHub brags about making something via vibecoding, as if Claude hallucinating in the process of making the code would not make their project unusable
if you think that before ai all programmers were making their projects from scratch you know nothing about programming. if anything, most of the time programming is about (and still is) copying someone else's code (or your own) and trying to make it work in a different project
It’s always been more like legos than artisanal sculpting. Pop some existing things together to get what you want. AI is just really good at finding the proper pieces quickly.
good luck with that lol. AI in coding is actually useful, and it's used pretty much everywhere. And there's a difference between using it for slop and using it productively.
there's a difference between using AI for creative human activities and using AI to do something that would require hours of menial scraping through code, you've never programmed in your life have you?
I have in fact done programming. I’ve programmed embedded systems, one hexadecimal instruction at a time. It was a pain, but it was worth learning to do.
AI is borh very useful and widely used in the field. I assume you arent that used to coding if you can't see its uses. Have you ever needed to deal with datasheets n such? You know, 1000+ page documents from which you need like 1 specific piece of info?
Or finding literature/competitors for background research? Claude allowed me to find a Spanish company that specializes in essentially exactly what my client wanted. Something I couldn't find after just going on google for like an hour. (It's also good at finding patents)
Need to make a chart to show your image recognition stats, such as a scatter plot or box plots for your features? Well this one time use code might as well be made wirh AI and just checked for accuracy. Since its just a small code with lots of repeats (for making the plots).
And we haven't even started about agentic workflow. Where multiple bots create and check eachithers work, whilst also making a concrete plan n everything
Troubleshooting the bugs in your renderer doesnt have the heart and soul that I think your envisioning from something like drawing. Like damn bro why do you NEED someone to have wasted months of their life being bored out of their mind, just for the sanctity of hard work and elbow grease.
No it's because the hyper majority of software engineers already understand the goal of whatever software your writing is to simply work and improve over time if needed. There is a single desired output when writing your code.
If I'm making a button that should reload the page and clear cache, there is no discourse on if the button is real or not. It either works or it doesn't work. How well it works is an entirely different debate on logic and optimization. There's no in between of it works or doesn't because if it doesn't work sometimes then it's not correct.
Things like film and drawing is entirely objective. You can make art thats made to be graded on a scale with how photo realistic it is or something like that, but 99% of people literally don't care about that expression and it's basically entirely experienced as a a subjective grading scale. Maybe you can make a case for frontend coders but then youd have to section off ethicality of using it just in the backend or frontend.
"i built-" is another phrase that puts me on edge about a project. it somehow sounds so impersonal and disingenuous even though it's literally a singular proclamation
I expect to be down-voted into oblivion but here we go
AI is a tool that developers can leverage to actually increase their productivity leaving more time for refinement and testing. I use Claude for boiler plate code and refactoring, but I still read the output to ensure it doesn't have and extra things that may break something down the pipe. I feel like these kinds of sentiments are from people who have never actually written any code. It's kinda like saying farmers that use fertilizer aren't actually growing their crops or that using a tractor to haul your loads is lazy.
That being said, using an AI to write a program from top to bottom can be a bad thing if you don't know what you are doing or have little experience in the field. THAT is where slop comes from. We need a more pragmatic approach to using AI for tasks such as these. If you could put on shoes that made you run faster and farther, why wouldn't you try them?
It stops being a tool if the tool does 98% of the work and you couldn't answer a single question about any of the code or even make your own Reddit post.
In OP's screenshot, Claude is literally the only contributor. I've seen a repo that had 4 contributors: Claude, GPT Codex, Cursor agent, THEN a person.
~developer since 2017 that uses some LLM assistance nowadays
True, i'd actually use ai on a daily basis for work and it does speed up my work, i both use it to write code and explore new ideas in quick proof of concepts before actually committing to anything first. I feel like it makes me work better and create better software.
Am I a fucking joke to you? I WORK and TOIL EVERY DAY, pinning download links to EVERY post and this is how y'all treat me???? You think i LIKE doing ts?? Bro I'm practically a SLAVE, I don't even remember GETTING this fucking job, I'm being paid 2 pennies A MILLENIUM.
Ding dongs in these comments dont realize every piece of software they use has been touched by an AI somewhere along the line at this point.
Knee jerk reactions to AI are as dumb as blind praise of AI.
Also, just don't let it make commits if you dont want it in the repo history. Reviewing during a 'git add -p' is a basic precaution. Of course, same ding dongs will probably ask "where's the git add p button, I dont see it in the web ui"
Stop making contributions for the sake of contributions and only when there's a perfectly valid usecase for it. Ie you used product in production and ran into bugs that you can replicate.
That's not the point, the point is that any repo with Claude as a main contributor is almost certainly vibe coded which is not the same as AI assistance
Everyone is using AI for coding nowdays, people adapt to the new technology that lets them make things way faster, sometimes making things that could be otherwise impossible without AI. It's not like you just type in one prompt and full app suddenly appears in your repo, you still need to have some knowledge for it to not work like a mess, but I doubt it will be the case in the future since AI is improving insanely fast lately.
This isn't a work environment. You're not on the clock, this is silly side projects. If you use AI to "speed it up" it's because you only care about shallow results and/or profiting from it, instead of truly learning the process and bettering yourself
Because it's fun. Subjective, sure but it's fun. I used to actively use AI myself until one day where I kitbashed some crappy thumbnails by myself and I felt a lot more proud of the results because I did with my own hands.
I guess that's a good argument, but the "bettering" yourself in this context is just learning how to code by hand. Right now it's much better to just learn concepts instead of actual code. I just don't get it why Reddit is so anti-ai even when it comes to such things as code. Art, I get it, but code?
More so because people are thinking of coding for a personal art project, like a game. There’s an elegance to making a game for a passion project, and using AI in that case is like using AI to make small assets because they “don’t matter.”
Yeah if you’re working in a professional setting you’re probably using Claude because your boss told you to, but people aren’t usually thinking about that when they say using AI to code is bad.
What are you talking about? AI is just yet another tool to help us code. My workplace has been using AI extensively and our code quality has not dropped, there has been no increase in reported bugs. I also know that this isn't exclusive to where I work and that it's industry standard now.
Wouldnt even try on whenthe its filled with non devs stuck in 2023. Talking abt hallucinations n such, like anyone in software could tell you those barely exist in 2026. Like AI makes mistakes bu hallucinations in code arent usually one of them lol
It's not like people stopped coding by hand, I say that even when they are coding by hand most of them are using AI at some point. I know many programmers personally, they are all saying the same thing.
I don't need AI to code, but i do use it for programming stuff faster
I come up with the architecture of the system, make a document for what it should be (with the classes, database model, functions, what i want it to do, etc) i will then feed the agent with what the project is about, give him the relevant info and ask it to make it
i dont ask it to make it all at once tho, thats how you get slop, best practice IMO is ask it piecemeal, you then review and correct what it has done, and when you are sure it is done correctly, you go to the next step
Yeah, no. That’s like saying people who know machine code don’t use high-level languages. Of course they do. It’s just another step in the natural evolution. Every programmer who codes for a living will tell you the same thing.
I wish that was true but i know for a fact that everyone from my class learned to Code alongside me and that everyone uses AI to help since its become available.
It sucks but for professional projects its hard to justify not using AI and correcting it by hand. Its Just magnitudes faster
Are you actually a dev lol?
Hilarious to see redditors crashing out over this
All major devs in all majot corps are using Claude/Codex, its the new industry standard.
Funny how this comment would have a bunch of upvotes in any development related subreddit. It’s just a fact of the industry now, like it or not (I don’t like it)
Why are you being downvoted man. I am so sick of all the people out there who are constantly complaining about ai use in coding being an always bad thing. They aren’t programmers, they don’t know the positive uses. All these people who don’t know shit about coding complaining are pissing me off so much
once a comment has at least 1 downvote people just swarm in assuming that the statement in that comment is automatically wrong without actually checking the facts. Charm of this platform.
What's the issue lol. You downloaded something to have fun and improve your game experience? You got exactly what you wanted and absolutely no one got hurt in the process? Would it feel more ethical to you if it was an open weights model or you had some way to confirm he ran the entire model locally? Like I actually wanna know cause it boggles my mind how this is real. I completely understand and have full support when it's being against artforms like voice acting or digital artwork. But software, is just software. You could never convince me that it really is that deep and somehow coding is an artform. The act of coding to convey a specific message and feeling sure is an artform. But are we really upset that for example someone ai assisted in a special type of TNT mod in Minecraft for example.
I dont really get this, nothing is made by yourself. Steve Jobs didn't solely make the UI for the iphone, or choose the hardware, or contact the manufacturers, or create the marketing, etc...
Also, a massive issue with making something is that no one knows about it. You still have to build a community and find a go-to market strategy.
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