r/mildlyinteresting • u/Nuggzbunny09 • 7h ago
Really old Fruit of the Loom bias tape. No cornucopia.
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u/FondleGanoosh438 7h ago
What’s bias tape for?
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u/Ctowncreek 4h ago
Ever seen a pot holder with a strip of fabric around the outside edge? That is bias tape. It finishes the edge by covering the layers, prevents fraying, and strengthens it.
It is called "bias tape" because it is cut on the "bias" which means at 45 degrees from the direction of the weave. This makes it more flexible and somewhat stretchy, which helps when sewing it on and also helps with its function
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u/Wintergreene 7h ago
for when you already have a preconceived notion that might be wrong.
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u/Exaggeration17A 7h ago
Take my wife's angry upvote.
For those who don't sew, "notion" is a term for small objects and accessories, like buttons. So this works on multiple levels.
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u/Wintergreene 7h ago
I'd love to say that was planned.... actually never mind. it was planned.
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u/Asron87 5h ago
Damn, your joke was so good it even went over your head.
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u/Wintergreene 2h ago
lol I didn’t even get it, but when I had it explained to me… the thing I that I said.. I’m a genius.
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u/Nuggzbunny09 7h ago
Sewing. Found in a very old Singer sewing machine from my GFs late grandmother.
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u/belac4862 7h ago
But what type of sewing. Obviously its for clothing making. But how is it used?
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u/twelfthfantasy 7h ago
It's used for a bunch of things, like reinforcing seams, covering unfinished edges, piping, etc. It's called bias tape because it's woven on a bias, which is to say that the threads run at a 45° angle to the length of the tape.
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u/KimJongFunk 6h ago
To add to this, cutting it on the bias allows bias tape to be applied more neatly around curves without puckering, as being cut on the bias allows fabric to stretch and bend more easily.
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u/Nuggzbunny09 7h ago
Back in the day when you made a seam you would want to reinforce it with bias tape. You would put it between two things your sewing together as reinforcement.
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u/MaplePolar 7h ago
specifically, to cover raw seam edges and prevent fraying, especially on delicate materials that cannot easily take a french seam for example
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u/belac4862 7h ago
Ohhhhhhh, ok so like adding extra fabric for structural support. Coo! I didnt ralize there was specific material for that! Thanks for the info.
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u/lovelylotuseater 6h ago
Not usually for support; there are other things that add support to the structure (like boning, or interfacing)
Bias tape is most often used to finish an edge of fabric. Fabric will unravel if left to its own devices, there are lots of different ways it’s finished (serging and various hems being the ways you see most often) but sometimes a fabric just isn’t a good fit for a hem. It might be a big fat thick fabric that will get absurd when rolled on itself, it might have structural things in it like boning, or it might just be a funky shape that doesn’t like to cooperate with the # shape of the weave.
Bias tape is cut on the bias, in big diagonal strips, so the fabric is better at wiggling around (most garments are not made this way because it uses extra cloth and also it can make them all droopy floppy if not designed for it and allowed time to relax) it’s then folded in half hot-dog-style (long ways) and then folded in half hot-dog-style again making a big long skinny strip of fabric where the unfinished edges are tucked inside.
That long skinny strip of fabric is put on the unfinished edge and sews in place, and so now they unfinished edges of the garment (or whatever) and the unfinished edges of the bias tape are all tucked inside and will not unravel.
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u/belac4862 6h ago
I feel kinda dumb not realizing Bias tape, is cut on the BIAS.... but thats reallt cool! I haven't even considered the thickness getting to be too much if you hem something to its self.
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u/Stellaaahhhh 4h ago
It's for binding edges. It's cut on the bias so it bends around curves smoothly- people used to use it to finish seams on structured garments like blazers, but I've mostly seen it in the past few years to bind the edges of quilts and throws.
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u/TiddyBoyLacroix 6h ago
You'd think if we switched dimensions or whatever, the people working in the factories would have noticed the difference immediately.
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u/Ivyspine 3h ago
Their memories switched too but not everyone's has
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u/Zorflez 2h ago
So only certain people are the "main character" who kept their memories on the dimension swap?
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u/ComradeJohnS 5h ago
the thing is with time travel the changes happened in the past.
so it’s what it always was.
lol.
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u/DoradoPulido2 7h ago edited 7h ago
Can't believe you went through all that effort of photoshopping, printing and repackaging a vintage label.
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u/potat0f4rmer 1h ago
Yeah but this is from this dimension.
I didn't start out in this dimension.
I need to go back.
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u/FeralCatWrangler 7h ago
My hill to die on is that the ones with the cornicopia were knock offs.
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u/SeekingLostInnocence 7h ago
Could be for sure. Fruit of the loom actually has a timeline of their logo on their website and claim none of the official logos ever had the cornucopia but I swear I feel like the whole reason I even know what a cornucopia is was from seeing it on fruit of the loom stuff as a kid. Like the only other time you see one of those things is in thanksgiving decorations.
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u/p3dr0maz 6h ago
I'm pretty sure this is why I think i remember it being there. My brain is mixing up their logo with the Thanksgiving handouts we got as a kid that we had to color in and it for sure was on those.
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u/tjdux 6h ago
I remember my first grade teacher using the fruit of the loom example to explain to us kids what a cornucopia is when we got a thanksgiving coloring page that was just an empty cornucopia and none of us kids recognized what it was.
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u/StatuatoryApe 6h ago
This is what gets me. I remember asking my mom about what the basket thing was and told me its called a cornucopia, which was a fun word to learn at such a young age. So much so, when my teacher ran his usual "try and stump the teacher" spelling tests he did on Fridays, I brought that word. I distinctly remember him asking me where I heard it, and I said from fruit of the loom.
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u/MasonP2002 2h ago
I had the opposite experience, I had tons of Fruit of the Looms stuff but still vividly remember having to ask what a cornucopia was when I read Hunger Games later because I had never seen the word before and had no idea what it looked like.
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u/BagBegBigBogBug 5h ago
I was gonna say -- the reason I learned the word 'cornucopia' was from asking what the weird basket hat thing was on my underwear labels
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u/Bauld_Man 5h ago
I remember very vividly that, for a small time when I was a young child, my "Fruit of the Loom" underwear was now labeled "FTL" in all blue with lines around the elastic. In fact I remember my dad even commenting that it's a stupid thing to shorten "Fruit of the Loom" to because it really stands for "Faster Than Light".
And yet I've never found any information on this rebrand, or even this brand, ever again.
I suspect that the 90s and early aughts were a wild time in knockoffs, and stores like walmart and target were going to get whatever they could... including a Fruit of the Loom with a cornucopia.
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u/Chapstickie 4h ago
The amount of vintage underwear on eBay is crazy to me. https://www.ebay.com/itm/202824270929
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u/sirguynate 3h ago
If there were a ton of knock offs there should be evidence of a logo, somewhere…I have never seen evidence of a cornucopia logo, still looking.
I always remember just the fruit, the cornucopia always seems wrong to me.
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u/Nillabeans 5h ago
I remember getting those from Zellers in Canada. They were not fruit of the loom but they looked like it. The socks and undershirts sucked and fell apart faster.
The logo was much brighter too and very close to what people draw when they "remember" fruit of the loom.
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u/holayeahyeah 5h ago
My hypothesis has always been that a lot of printed t-shirts that came from print shops or small vendors were using knock off t-shirts as bases before it was easy for people to check that.
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u/EmergencyGrocery3238 3h ago
We need to find where cornucopia logo originated from
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u/emar2021 6h ago
Can’t we just discuss how dog turds used to turn white?
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u/throwawaybottlecaps 6h ago
It turns out, that for many years we were all feeding our pets kibble with a shit ton of indigestible bone meal in it. They kibble manufacturers figured out cheap, but better protein sources and have reduced the amount of filler in modern kibble, so dog turds stay a nice cocoa brown now.
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u/HeKnee 5h ago
But can we go back to the white stuff? It seemed like the turds disappeared sooner in grass.
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u/YlfaTheForsaken 3h ago
Oh, because of the bone meal the excrement would have a higher calcium content letting it dry and crumble away.
I mean I guess it could be replicated by feeding raw meaty bones
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u/Lore-of-Nio 6h ago
Did you look this up or already know this?
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u/throwawaybottlecaps 6h ago
I looked it up at some point because I have a habit of looking up everything that irks my brain. Idk when though, usually it doesn’t stick around in my head but dog poop is pretty sticky.
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u/Mr_Tort_Feasor 4h ago
How come I have never seen a women with torpedo-shaped breasts when my uncle's Playboy collection in the 70s was full of them?
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u/boarder664 4h ago edited 4h ago
Assuming you actually want the answer and I'm not missing super obvious social cues, torpedo bras! They were popular until modern, rounded bras entered fashion. Torpedo (or bullet) bras were cone-shaped, and when women would grow into them, the breasts would often take the form of said bras, leading to the point that was common in 70s playboys.
Source: Don't yuck my yum.
EDIT: There's also other things:
Average weights were lower, so breasts weren't as padded out with fat, so they often were more torpedo-shaped than round like modern-day. Less processed food and sugar in diet compared to today.
It was popular in porn because in Hollywood they couldn't show off cleavage, so pointy bras /breasts were basically a sex symbol Hollywood was able to sell without breaking the law. See examples such as Bridgette Bardot and Marilyn Monroe.
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u/SigismundsChair 6h ago
I swear one time I watched my dad poop and it came out white but that has to be a fake memory because why would I watch my dad poop and why would it be white
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u/samtherat6 4h ago
Well according to my 5 year old brain, it would be because your dad is white. Source: I’m brown.
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u/Deo-Gratias 6h ago
It can happen in specific circumstances so hopefully you just dreamed this and did not watch a white turd exit anyone
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u/SigismundsChair 3h ago
It was at the fish farm and the gap in the stall was really wide and he told me not to look but I did
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u/Houdini_Shuffle 6h ago
Our toddler sometimes doesn't give us the choice to poop allone, so it might not be a fake memory
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u/turducken69420 5h ago
I used to watch my dad poop but I grew up in Montana.
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u/bd58563 5h ago
I like how you added the part about growing up in Montana as if that’s just what people do up there
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u/xEliteMonkx 5h ago
Well, technically white or clay colored stool can indicate a serious medical condition such as gallstones, a tumor, hepatitis, or cirrhosis. That's as far as I can add to this conversation. I do not wish to address the rest.
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u/Bradjuju2 5h ago
I’m curious: in your minds eye, what angle do you remember seeing? Because I can’t fathom why there would ever be a reason for a child to “watch it come out white.” Maybe if you were spying on him while out camping or something?
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u/TheOriginalBroCone 5h ago
Want to know what bias tape is, but ofc all the comments are lame jokes
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u/Total-Swordfish4670 5h ago
Bias tape is strips of woven fabric that are cut on the bias, or at a 45° angle from the straight edge. Cutting it on the bias gives it some stretch so that it can sew along curves without puckering. If you have any potholders at home, it's likely that the raw edges were finished using bias tape.
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u/Fit-World-3885 5h ago
I know the name, but not really what it is. I've also read the comment here explaining what it is but it hasn't helped the situation.
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u/Obvious-Criticism149 6h ago
So my head cannon on this is that most US students up through the 90s had to make Thanksgiving crafts, one of which was the cornicopia with all the Thanksgiving foods. So we all had to painstakingly draw, color, cut out and glue them onto a paper cornicopia and we all just made that association. Bunch of food in a pile? Cornicopia.
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u/the_scarlett_ning 4h ago
This is a great pic! Whatever the heck that is behind the green grapes could absolutely look like a cornucopia.
Or, you know, some of the programming when they meshed our timelines just didn’t meld right.
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u/xio_ID 2h ago
Wait is that genuinely not a cornucopia? This is the logo I remember, all 5 pixels of it, and it looks like a cornucopia. So it was fruit of the loom’s fault for using fucking dot matrix printing techniques…
I gotta apologize to some redditors 😅
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u/morwen31 5h ago
I definitely remember cornucopias on coloring sheets around Thanksgiving in the mid-to-late 80s.
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u/theslimbox 4h ago
The word pile of food makes me want to start a Chinese buffet, but instead of plates, use cornucopia's.
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u/CheddarGeorge 4h ago
From the UK and didn't have any thanksgiving and still remember a cornucopia. I attributed it to teaching me what one was.
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u/Moonskaraos 7h ago
There used to be a cornucopia. I’ll die on this hill.
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u/dorxincandeland 7h ago
Fruit of the loom having a cornucopia is why I know wtf a cornucopia is.
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u/tjdux 6h ago
I distinctly remember getting a coloring page in elementary school with a cornucopia and no food inside it during Thanksgiving time.
None of us kids recognized it and the teacher told us "it's a cornucopia, just like on your socks and underwear"
So I'm in the same boat as you, fruit of the loom cornucopia is literally connected to me learning what a cornucopia even is.
It was such common knowledge that an elementary teacher used it as an example for first graders who also knew the logo.
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u/G_Liddell 5h ago
I got a Fruit of the Loom shirt for Christmas as a kid and asked my grandma what that thing on the logo was and she pulled out a real cornucopia. FoTL is also how I learned what a cornucopia is.
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u/rivertpostie 7h ago
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u/Chapstickie 7h ago
That was a photoshop Buzzfeed made for a mandela effect quiz in 2017. It was never the actual logo. It was the wrong answer on the quiz.
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u/EasterZombie 6h ago
Always bugged me how in the original fruit of the loom logo all the shading lines are completely horizontal and share a similar design language of broken lines, but the cornucopia in this pic completely ignores that subtle detail. IMO any true Mandala effect cornucopia absolutely would follow that design convention + thinner border lines etc.
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u/rivertpostie 7h ago
Let me start by saying that you are absolutely correct.
But, also it's uncanny that people who remember someone that didn't exist remember it in the exact same way. Which I don't remember them explaining why from that article
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u/letswatchstarwars 6h ago
They put paper cornucopias on the wall in my elementary school. I sorta think this is what people are actually remembering.
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u/Narwen189 6h ago
Cornucopia are a super common Thanksgiving motif. Maybe we're remembering that?
I do swear I've seen a Fruit of the Loom Cornucopia, though. XD I need to take a photo if it ever comes my way again.
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u/letswatchstarwars 6h ago
That’s my personal theory. It’s just easier for me to believe that people’s memories are faulty than to believe that they’ve jumped to a parallel dimension where there was a cornucopia (or where it was spelled Chic-fil-a (or Chik-fil-a) or where it was Berenstein Bears or whatever).
It’s been proven that even eyewitness testimony in court is extremely unreliable (people often get the color of a vehicle wrong in a car crash for instance). Plus humans are highly suggestible. That’s why police aren’t supposed to ask leading questions during interviews. You can accidentally make someone truly believe they saw something that they actually didn’t.
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u/heartsenspades 5h ago
The red leaves (?) surrounding the grapes look like a cornucopia shape. Scrolling past this post I thought it was a altered image with an added cornucopia.
I think this is the optical illusion tricking us all into believing there was always a cornucopia there.
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u/Chapstickie 6h ago
I’ve been following this specific Mandela effect for a very long time. People didn’t used to remember it the same way. There used to be a lot of variance in size and color and direction and all that. It’s only when that specific fake got picked as the one people used to illustrate the cornucopia that people’s descriptions started getting closer to that one until now many people insist it’s EXACTLY right and I’m lying about its source.
There’s also this weird thing where people used to just claim they remembered the cornucopia and people who don’t just didn’t notice. Now like 90% of the people who say they remember it have specific anecdotal stories about why they KNOW it was there. But not unique stories. The same story with small differences like some people were doing laundry with their grandma and not their mom, those sorts of changes. Actually there are like three stories and people pick which one totally happened to them… but once again the high percentage of having a story as proof is ever increasing but fairly recent
Which I think is a good piece of evidence to how mandela effects form and spread.
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u/Hytheter 5h ago
Yeah, it just highlights the fact that memories are highly malleable and can be fabricated outright.
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u/Thisisdubious 6h ago edited 6h ago
I specifically remember being surprised there wasn't a cornucopia in the logo because the vintage logo with brown leaves kinda looked like one from a distance. We however had plenty of tacky cornucopia fall decor on table cloths, festive napkins, etc.With that common iconography, I had assumed it was the same thing on Fruit of the Loom up until that point.
Similar with Berenstain Bears. Hooked on Phonics taught me to sound it out. Other people see a long word and just gloss over it and substitute something they already know.
I encounter this mental shortcutting all the time with people dropping the middle syllable from my name. They see a word they don't recognize and panic jumble the whole thing up to get to the end as quickly as possible. They even do it in email with the name spelled out right in front of them.
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u/ILiveMyBrokenDreams 6h ago
I mean, there are tons of other articles that explain it in detail. It's basically a misconnection the brain is making because you're presented with familiar things that are easy to associate. The cornucopia is something most of us are familiar with being depicted with fruit in it, so if someone brings up Fruit of the Loom and asks if it had a cornucopia, it's a very easy path for your mind to reinforce because it makes sense to you. And since our brains all work basically the same way, they also commonly malfunction the same way.
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u/PogintheMachine 5h ago
And that’s pretty interesting. But instead of being somewhat impressed that our brains tend to malfunction in similar patterns, and our memories get contaminated so easily- people want to die on hills rather than admit they could be wrong about a small pop culture detail from their childhood.
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u/ClarkWayne98 6h ago
My theory is that there was some knock-off brand that was more common years ago that made a "legally distinct" logo
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u/Chapstickie 6h ago
FOTL is crazy litigious. I don’t think they would have allowed that.
Plus people have been claiming the cornucopia disappeared for like 50 years up until claiming it disappeared during Covid. If it were a super common knockoff (to explain why so many people “remember” it) some of the clothing would still exist.
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u/meticulous_gamer 2h ago
I literally learned what a Cornucopia was from seeing the FotL tags when I was a child. I know it was there. Something happened.
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u/Plibbo64 3h ago
I was a kid. I didn't even know what a cornucopia was. Would I make that up?
I remember the cornucopia.
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u/FloppieTheBanjoClown 2h ago
There's a going theory that one factory used an unauthorized sample logo for a long time. It would explain a lot and makes sense given how much less control was exercised over regional manufacturing 40+ years ago.
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u/Maleficent-Hawk-318 2h ago
If you are in the US, maybe? You might not have known the word for it, but cornucopia decorations are pretty ubiquitous around Thanksgiving (and I feel like were more common in the past), so you probably had seen them.
Can't speak for other countries but it's very common imagery here, just only in that specific context so it's easy to forget.
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u/Greendiamond_16 2h ago
The teacher asked us in 4th grade what we thought the baskets that show up around thanksgiving was called. I blurted out "A LOOM" and she replied "do you think that because its on your underwear?" It was incredibly embarrasing I will never forget that.
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u/barsmart 1h ago
Why the fuck do ANY of us know what a cornucopia is NOW?!!
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u/Kriieod 1h ago
If you are in the US you were bombarded with it in elementary school, local grocery stores, etc.
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u/screenaholic 5h ago edited 4h ago
I actually have a theory on this. I think all of our elementary school teachers used to print out the FotL logo and a cornucopia and used them for Thanksgiving decorations, and we just internalized that.
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u/Crawler1701 1h ago
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u/AlwaysDefenestrated 59m ago
Posting this one on various social media sites to gaslight people who will say "See? See? I told you"
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u/Cold_Bitch 2h ago
We all saw it. They can deny all they want it existed, official, unofficial I don’t care. Somehow, somewhere there was a cornucopia
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u/JackassJJ88 7h ago
In my grade school in grade 1 the teacher had the months of the year posted around the classroom with different designs. The November one had a cornucopia with the fruit and some pilgrims and turkeys. I remember this distinctly because I am Canadian and we have Thanksgiving in October so it was weird. I am thinking many of us have seen this as kids and thats where the memory is coming from. It was in the 90s. Anyone else remember these?
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u/FrancistheBison 5h ago
Thanksgiving was a much bigger holiday than it is today and I think some folks forget that. Like it was bigger than Halloween. Pilgrims and cornucopia and hand turkeys and dried corn everywhere. Anyone from the US/CA saying they learned cornucopia from an alleged logo and not from elementary school is delusional
(mind you I too thought the logo had a cornucopia but I at least recognize that my memory is shit and I've imagined stuff that wasn't there for other scenarios. The widespread nature of this Mandela effect is the weirdest part, but I think the fact that Millennials love to claim remembering random niche bullshit as part of our culture and that's adding to it).
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u/NoAdvertising2 3h ago
I saw the cornucopia many times growing up definetly was there
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u/BlaineMundane 4h ago edited 38m ago
The fruit of the loom answer is this: Contracts were given out. A third party country in a tiny town printed their logo with a cornucopia. Very few people saw it but it was real. Literally the same story as almost every other situation like this. Berenstein/stain? Same thing, third party company that printed it wrong.
Edit: wow 185 replies. No wonder we're all fucked.
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u/Careful-Positive-710 3h ago
Nah its obviously the fact that some of us slip into different universes or timeliness. Its a much simpler explanation than logic and reason lol.
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u/sixtus_clegane119 3h ago
Berenstain vs berenstein is more just us being more used to stein names than stain names
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u/PoshVolt 3h ago
This explanation isn't satisfying cause there would be real world examples. People from all over the world have the memory of seeing it.
Also, the company would have records of that happening and would've been uncovered.
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u/nxcrosis 4h ago
How do you explain Nelson Mandela then? A second Mandela died earlier?
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 3h ago
Probably a confabulation with another South African activist named Steven Biko who was tortured and did die in prison for his cause.
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u/FannyComingThru 4h ago
It was always Berenstain. I noticed this as a kid & always pronounce it “Bear-in-stain” inside my head because I’m one of those people who remebers spellings by phonetically pronouncing words in my head. “Wed-nez-day” is another example, even though I say “Wends-day” out loud.
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u/QueenRotidder 3h ago
same, the first time I read about this particular Mandela effect thing I was like “nope it was stain, I pronounced it that way”
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u/BlaineMundane 4h ago
Yes, it's Berenstain. However, a third party company printed it as "berenstein" because they assumed incorrectly.
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u/Defqon1punk 2h ago
This always fascinated me because I used to argue with my friend about whether it was pronounced Bearnsteen or bearnstine. I enjoyed those books vividly and never saw a berenstain spelling. But I definitely did have some underwear as a child with the cornucopia. Who knows. Localization?
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u/igotpetdeers 2h ago
That’s literally fake, you just made that up. It never had one
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u/apowers009 3h ago
Does anyone have a non llm picture of this cornucopia
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u/jedininjashark 3h ago
They are out there. Apparently knockoffs flooded k-marts and that’s where the whole controversy came from.
People remember both because both do exist.
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u/croagunk 1h ago
I think I always thought the grape leaf or whatever is around the grapes was the cornucopia
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u/Textiles_on_Main_St 2h ago
The fuck is bias tape?
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u/canadian_blueberry 2h ago
Used for binding quilted items or adding trim to sewn things
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u/lordredapple 1h ago
It will will discriminate against you, but unfortunately cannot express it as it is tape
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u/TurdFergusonlol 4h ago
It comes from all the thanksgiving imagery. Every single November almost every thanksgiving picture has a cornucopia with fruits/veggies in it. So we automatically associate fruits and veggies splayed out on the table to have a cornucopia. That’s all it is people.
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u/Clutch-Bandicoot 6h ago
everyone knows they added the cornucopia right after this was made then got rid of it shortly after
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u/AzemOcram 7h ago
The lack of cornucopia proves its authenticity. Only knockoffs used the cornucopia.
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u/TennisADHD 6h ago
This is more than mildly interesting, I was today years old when I learned about “bias tape” now I want to research why bureaucracy is associated with red tape.
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u/whyhilist 3h ago
A pack of bias tape now is like $4-6. ;-; I always run through it so fast as well. I also have some vintage sewing notions, it’s crazy to see the prices and quality from back then. Old cotton bias feels so nice compared to the modern polyester stuff.
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u/Due_Argument2034 7h ago edited 5h ago
Deleted and disengaging from this conversation because you guys are crazy for being so mad you feel you have to privately message me and sling insults. Over a Mandela effect…
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u/AnotherSoulessGinger 7h ago
Obviously this is from the sixties, pre-cornucopia.
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(but as a sewist with a bunch of vintage supplies, I do think it’s probably 60s, maybe late 50s)