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u/13thgeneral 1d ago
Speaking as someone that actually went to an art college and understands the mindset of many types of "artists", these kinds of performative displays are done by people who would rather do this than actually be productive and produce something people actually want or need. They get to pretend they're intellectual and cultured, and the people watching get to pretend along with them.
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u/Silly-Afternoon3834 1d ago
A lot of these kinds of “artists” have trust funds too
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u/MADIRABBIT1216 1d ago
I thought “imagine how wealthy this kid’s parents are?!”
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u/NotReallyButMaybeNot 1d ago
Sometimes it goes back multiple generations if they’re smart with the trust fund and don’t depend on just the fund to live off of…. unlike this artist
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u/Xalibu2 1d ago
I wanted to know who is funding this BS.
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u/Ragnarok314159 1d ago
Long standing joke in art school is how an artist needs two things to be successful: inspiration and a trust fund.
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u/NocaSun38 1d ago
I went to college with one of these guys. Walked around campus in a bathrobe all day, made art out of wind blowing into plastic bags from fans, had parents who were rich af.
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u/papayakob 1d ago
My now ex took me to an experimental opera and got mad at me for laughing while I watched a grown woman fully submerge her face in a bowl of water and blow bubbles for almost 2 minutes. We got into a fight afterwards and broke up the next day.
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u/Advanced_End1012 1d ago
True performance art should allow the evocation of any emotion the viewer experiences, that’s the point because art is supposed to be subjective. So your expression of laughing at that bullshit is valid lmao.
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u/papayakob 17h ago
Literally my entire argument. Art is subjective. Also a grown woman sticking her head in a bowl of water blowing bubbles is objectively funny
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u/dundunndon 1d ago
feels like "look at me look at me" rather than constructing or creating a work of art like a dance or something sturdy for the people appreciate and study. this feels like therapy for the girl smothered in gel. she needs everybody to pay attention to her.
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u/Embarrassed-Egg-8124 1d ago
Yes or some sort of deluded sense of “this is something good for the world”.
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u/VladStark 1d ago
I got a degree in art and as someone who didn't use any drugs all throughout college, it was a challenge to relate to this kind of behavior! I think you have to honestly be in an altered state of mind to pretend this has any real meaning or relevance. And honestly I've seen even worse, more boring displays. I'm sad to say.
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u/Jachi230 1d ago
I just see it as a huge kink and she’s playing with a bunch of jizz
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u/Human_Challenge_9857 1d ago
It’s actually something called “birthing lubricant “…but yes she’s definitely playing with it
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u/Opening-Pickle5078 1d ago
nah i disagree. You can learn a lot watching the audience of a person playing in fake jazz all over the floor in their sleepwear. Look at the smirking dads, watch the mom that uncrosses her legs and then poses with anticipation of some weird fantasy and gratification. They sit there all in different shades of reality looking at what some see as nonsense. Most of what people do is nonsense and you see another person that apparently can excel in it. I really wondered, "hmm, I wonder how this video went down at the family holiday gathering" quite a ghastly bunch of facial expressions being suppressed as much as possible?
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u/Inevitable-Copy3619 1d ago
As a musician (a type of artist) I get self expression and all that. I also get avante garde and more off beat styles.
But this just feels like a no talent ass clown trying to be a somebody. It’s neither providing enjoyment for the viewer nor providing expression for the artist.
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u/Ragnarok314159 1d ago
There is at least one person in that audience thinking “fuck yeah, this is amazing.”
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u/Professional_Lake407 1d ago
As someone that also went to art college: I second every word of this statement.
I remember a girl made a Polaroid collage of pictures of her and her boyfriend having sex…. Except the collage was like 20 pictures? Tops?
Porn. You made really shitty porn.
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u/AwwHeeelllNaaah 1d ago
I'm curious, do they tend to be smart or pretty average?
This particular "art" seems so pointless. It evokes nothing but slight disgust.
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u/russtripledub 1d ago edited 21h ago
They’re socially aware. I know of a guy whose project was photocopies of his dick and he provided some social commentary on the world, linked to his art project.
I think awareness goes a lot further than being inherently smart or not. But in general, they’re usually try hards who try their best to be edgy.
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u/13thgeneral 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some are actually very intelligent, but some not so much. Each has thier own reasons for why they do this kind of performative art - as with any human in any endeavor - though I think there's a very similar parallel and overlap in pursuing something that's essentially peculiar and insincere. I suppose there's a curiosity to this "creativity" but I don't think it's what it portends to be; it's portrayed as high culture and intellectually introspective or whatever, but ultimately I think it's just laziness.
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u/AwwHeeelllNaaah 1d ago
I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.
I personally don't have time for pretentious BS. I'm more a "keep it real" kinda person.
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u/Corporate_Bricktator 1d ago
They're the kids who enroll in art programs and then realize they can't hack it. Those without any natural talent or drive end up cosplaying as "artists" like this.
Many of them didn't really go to real high schools either, but instead attended private "arts high schools" so they get to college and are especially out of touch.
My favorite thing about this video is that it's angled and off center, because the person filming it knows that everyone knows this is so ridiculous, and that therefore, any attempt to record it would embarrass the artist. Thus, they'd all frown on such an attempt to embarrass her, than the person holding the phone has to go out of their way to not let anyone know they're filming.
I dated a girl in college who was one of these failed artists, and so I got to know a lot of her friends in a program like this.
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u/mrhammerant 1d ago
And if anyone says boo, they're uncultured and don't understand art. It's the Emporor's New Clothes, except it keeps art schools in business (I hope)
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u/iammixedrace 1d ago
Me in my Design Degree when asked why I did something. And HAD to have a rationale for every decision.
Learned very quickly that much of art and design decisions are just - felt like it, it looks good/cool. Then to sound smart you research the hell out of a random topic and relate the piece to that. "Oh yeah red in xyz culture or thing represents nothingness to the xyz so that is represented by a red background.. now clap please"
Yes some artist/ designers start with research then refine the piece. But within all that many many many decisions were vibes based then related to the topic.
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u/tiptopster 1d ago
This is exactly why I quit my design degree at the end of year two. Realised it was a world full of shit and the cream that rose were the ones who could blag. Not a world I want to be in.
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u/ichoosewaffles 1d ago
I have a degree in Fine Arts and what did I really learn? That all you need is the right Artist Statement and you can sell ANYTHING as art.
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u/John_Save_America 1d ago
I’ve tried to look into a steel man for contemporary art, and every argument either boiled down to, or explicitly was, “you just don’t understand what the artist is portraying, you don’t have the context”. Obviously that’s bullshit, but even if it isn’t, doesn’t that just mean the artist did an inadequate job creating their art? If the majority of people don’t understand what you’re saying, you’re just a poor communicator.
Ultimately people can spend their time and money on what they want, but watching it performed or defended still rubs me the wrong way.
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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland 1d ago
I had a friend who drew comics well, and any time I lamented my own drawing skills, he'd tell me "If you can tell what it's supposed to be, it's not a bad drawing."
I can't tell what this art is supposed to represent, aside from "I have a jizz fetish."
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u/ConsiderationTrue477 1d ago
I would have way more respect for stuff like this if people would just say that they're fucking around. Like just say you have no idea what you're doing but think it's goofy enough to be worth trying. "Has anyone else done this? No? Well I'm gonna!" It's the pseudo-intellectual spin that's more off-putting than the actual thing itself. I'm totally fine with people doing what they want. Just don't sniff your own farts in the process.
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u/John_Save_America 23h ago
Yeah, think you got the nail on the head with the pseudo-intellectualism. If they wanted to try some new shit out, by all means, but don’t act better than people if it doesn’t work.
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u/SlideStrict9773 1d ago
I have an MFA in studio art... it's all about how well you BS and getting people to believe your BS. Anyways, I left the art world after I got my degree. Lots of pretentious Aholes.
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u/LlamaLlamaSomePajama 4h ago
I went to a fine arts college AND I'm an art teacher. This.... this is such a vile waste of time. I literally gagged and it's making my brain angry.
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u/Remarkable_Rough_649 1d ago
Tbh the people watching in this case seem to agree this is a strange waste of time. I'd say a mixture between mildly baffled and mildly bored
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u/Wrong-Fella 16h ago
Speaking as someone that actually went to an art college and understands the mindset of some of the many types of art students, I can attest to the fact that the many types of art students is practically unlimited and, as such, not as easily categorised as some would have you believe. The main point is that they are students and some are learning and excited about new definitions of art and trying new things successfully or not. Are some indulgent? Presumably. Are some wealthy? Presumably. Are they having a good fucking time? Presumably. Will most of them go on to be successful artists making a living from whatever art they are learning about? No.
Most importantly, speaking as someone that actually went to an art college, most of them had a great two, four or maybe six years of studying art and could care less about what anyone else thinks.
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u/coffeesipper5000 12h ago
Agree, but I see the blame in those who enable this type of stuff by allocating the money to fund that type of stuff. We are lucky to live in a time where governments and corporations generously fund art, but I am not happy with how that money is distributed.
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u/radio_four 8h ago edited 5h ago
Yuuup. Made a living in circus arts for years, spent a lot of time around movement artists - aerialists, dancers, jugglers - that worked their asses off to be in peak form.
People like this remind me of when I lived with a 'noise artist' in Portland, OR in the early 2000's. Dude wanted to be a rock star, but didn't have the discipline to learn an instrument
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u/Time-Ranger-1596 15h ago
I’m one of those art school grad fru-fru people who thinks this type of contemporary art is valid, yes even if it’s from annoying rich kids. Do they take themselves way too seriously sometimes? Absolutely! Does the fact that it’s boring, awkward, and strange make it not art? Not necessarily! Art isn’t about producing things people want or need, that’s a very market forward way of thinking about it. It isn’t meant to be a product to sell all the time. And if this takes place in an educational setting not much is created for explicitly that purpose. The purpose is decided my the artist and the interpretation from the audience also serves that purpose even if the take away was “Well that was stu.” Commercial art is a product, but I don’t think that’s the case here.
That being said, I don’t like this performance. I think I’d enjoy displays like this if they actually leaned INTO the absurdity and inherent humor of their performances. If they got up and said “Honestly I’m just doing this for fun 😏” I’d be at least entertained. Or if they made the performance more coherent and a “target” , one performance piece that still sticks with me is Rhythm 0 by Abramovic, that piece has been talked about to death on reddit, but I bring it up because it does have a target! She leaned into the danger of exposing herself to the general public by including items she knew were meant for violence. This reply isn’t meant to be abrasive btw I just generally like discoursing and thinking about art :D!
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u/13thgeneral 9h ago edited 9h ago
Thanks, that's an interesting perspective to consider. And I agree with a number of your statements, especially the bit about "leaning into the absurdity". Unfortunately I don't think many of them actually see the absurdity or embrace the oddities as somehow enlightened - and then there's the ArtLARPers whom know but ride the waves for attention and clout. For those who do understand it's a peculiar display and performance, but do it knowingly as an expression and experience, I suppose I can accept that as more honestly artistic.
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u/usernamesarehard1979 1d ago
I have never been to art school or anything like it and this is my take as well. Basically, doing anything they can not to actually work. They want to be thought of as an intellectual and get whatever you are supposed to get when you reach that status.
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u/frickinrickinticking 4h ago
Yep. 1st year in art school I learned that anything goes as long as it has a good BS story attached to it.
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u/imamajorscale 1d ago
But everything has been done so do something that hasn’t for the sake of novelty is the driving force behind contemporary art
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u/Jynx105 1d ago
Bullshit for rich people to feel important
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u/Armada-lol 1d ago
It's just money laundering mate
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u/ChungusReaper 1d ago
Nah it’s a fetish thing 100%.
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u/SeamusOShane 1d ago
50% fetish, 50% money laundering, final offer
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u/CtrlAltYuri 1d ago
50% fetish laundering, 50% money
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u/Poolowl1984 1d ago
69% fetish, 31% money. Deal?
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u/YourLocal_FBI_Agent Cringe Level 3 1d ago
I'll die on the hill that stuff like this is only perpetuated because "artists" who sucks at actually making art banded together, forming these elitist echo chambers so they can applaud each other and feel good.
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u/RymrgandsDaughter 1d ago
I remember the first time I saw this. Definitely so freaky rich person thing
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u/New_Phone6935 1d ago
Bringing a kid to this is crazy lol
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u/QuantitySignal4494 1d ago
But kids love slime?
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u/Warm-Comfortable501 1d ago
Would have had to hold my kid back from jumping into the slime play. Also, i would come home one day to a kid on a sheet or the floor, full of slime and them splashing around in it and then saying...But dad, its "art".
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u/lemme_try_again 1d ago
Yup. Nothing here is inherently sexual (I didn't rewatch it this time so maybe I missed something). It's weird but not weird
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u/Responsible-Rest9404 1d ago
I'm not sure which is more bizarre: what's she's doing or the fact there's an audience??!!
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u/Severe-Chicken-5791 1d ago
I’m stunned by the amount of spectators really - especially because their expressions reveal pretty much nothing
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u/LightenUpPeeps 21h ago
The parents finally get to see what the $40,000 they spend every year to send their teen to college is paying for. 😄
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u/cheeks_clappington97 1d ago
Looks like the aftermath of a bukkake
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u/Gluttonous_Bae 1d ago
Who said bukkake wasn’t art
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u/atwaterrich 1d ago
I once went to an exhibit of canvases painted w-h-I-t-e (Reddit won’t let me write that word without the hyphens). All of them. And there was a guy nodding knowingly and chuckling to himself. 🤷🙄
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u/The_Demosthenes_1 23h ago
OMG..... you're right! They block the word whit-e!
Green, yellow, blue, tan and Black are OK.
But white is not. Weird. After like 16 edits the word censor seems to break.
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u/Benji148 22h ago
Why can’t I say b-lack? Yellow? I can say. Pink? But never of the shade which absorbs the most and which absorbs the least can I type here. Bruh
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u/Left-Chemist-8212 19h ago
Omg. This weird ass sub doesn’t let you say s-tupid or d-umb either. Found that out earlier
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u/BlazingBlossom 22h ago
black and white. Are you tripping or something?
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u/Fantastic-Tank-6250 17h ago
Pretty obviously a race thing. I bet I can't say As-ian or ind-ian or af-rican either. How about European? Okay that's fine. Arab is fine. I can say native/indigenous Slavic is fine and also Jew is cool as well.
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u/Massive-Virus-4875 15h ago
So weird where they draw the lines 🤣
Thanks for your service, testing those out
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u/Sasquatch_Sensei 1d ago
There is alot of art that im not a fan of, but can see why somebody is. Synchronized swimming, figure skating, interpretive dance and even some experimental music I can kinda see why people would like it.... but what is going on here.
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u/No_Water9929 1d ago
I like how you listed things that require talent, skill, hard work and dedication. This requires none of that.
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u/Sasquatch_Sensei 1d ago
Yes. Which is partially why im confused how it has an audience
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u/zeptillian 1d ago
If you just watched kids playing they would at least try to have fun and seeing them enjoy themselves might bring a smile to your face.
Watching an adult play around on the floor with a serious look on their face like they are 6 hours into a 10 hours shift at a tedious factory job just seems miserable.
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u/thederevolutions 1d ago
You’re supposed to turn up the volume, look away from the screen, and imagine what you hear
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u/Frequent-Coyote-8108 1d ago
Lady is half clothed, and rolling around in a large frat's worth of jizz.
People...several, it seems, are interested in viewing this.
Hopefully, the tickets were free.
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u/zanoske00 1d ago
Wtf is wrong with people? Who goes to this? Do they pay for admission? How do they even find out about it?
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u/Stoli0000 1d ago
Probably art school, where you observe other people's art and learn to do critique. The best part is, they also critique the F out of your art.
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u/nixstyx 1d ago
Would love to hear this artist's critique of someone else's art. "Not enough slime."
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u/Stoli0000 1d ago
Ikr? Usually it's more along the lines of "i know you spent all week working on the shading of this charcoal portrait, but their nose looks 'off'."
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u/callisterart 1d ago
I deeply mean it when I say I cant think of something I would rather watch less than this.
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u/king0777 7h ago
Why like what is the purpose? Why would people pay to see this nonsense?!?!?!?
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u/maringue 1d ago
They charge beaucoup bucks for this in Japan. Well, it's usually more of a personal show as it were.
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u/1Happymom 1d ago
RICH whyte people shit...no one who's actually had to earn money spends it to go to school to do this
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u/Desperate-Disk686 1d ago
So, what’s the masturbation etiquette at one of these?
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u/Tallest_Dawi 1d ago
It's nice that those "let's fill my parent's pool with slime" youtubers grew up and found their way into the arts!
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u/kellybryan423 1d ago
Isn't this Germany? They lost WW1 and WW2 so hard, they went a little nuts. Be gentle on them.
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u/Ombortron 1d ago
This would be much more tolerable if the goo was simply not the color of fucking cum
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u/No_Blacksmith_2591 1d ago
People paid money to watch this girl play with jizz but when i go to the strip club suddenly i'm the bad guy.
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u/randomwanderingsd 1d ago
People frequently misidentify a person with a trust fund and artists. It’s alright. It’s not always clear. This one definitely is not an artist. Family money.
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u/Apacryphon 22h ago
Sorry to say but this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen lol just slapping the floor and making swirls with your hands like you're in a kiddie pool lol
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u/Both_Contribution186 1d ago
I hate this kind of stuff. It’s so look at me I’m trying to be relevant and edgy and artsy but it ends up being more like a 5th grader opening his mouth full of food and going blaaah. Ridiculous.
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u/Interesting-Copy-657 1d ago
Is it art if the location matters?
Take a painting from a museum and hang it in a strip club, it is still art
Take this performative art and put in a strip club and it’s the next big degenerate attraction?
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u/IJustWantToLearn2Day 1d ago
As someone who dated a performance artist. These are just either flaunting daddy issues or softcore porn. Sometimes both.
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u/IndependentFrame9146 1d ago
I hope no one paid to sit there… If so, that might be the biggest waste of money I have ever seen not mention the waste of time.
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