For giving us another meme template.

I’ve been playing World of Warcraft for 21 years now. Through expansions, late-night dungeon runs, friendships, breaks, and more “I’m quitting WoW” moments than I’d care to admit.

Today my WoW Forever Collector’s Edition arrived, and damn, it brought back some memories.

I remember when Azeroth felt impossibly huge. When getting your first mount was a major milestone, nobody knew where the hell anything was, and accidentally wandering into the wrong zone was practically a death sentence.

I’m pushing 40 now. I’ve got a wife, kids, and a whole different life than the teenager who first stepped into Azeroth back in 2005.

And the crazy part? My wife is planning to play alongside me, and hopefully the kids will join us eventually.

Twenty-one years later, this game still finds ways to make me excited.

Here’s to another adventure.

Azeroth Forever! 🍻

Any other [2004–2005](tel:2004-2005) veterans still kicking around?

basically the only content and its completely bugged. i just wasted hours on this and still havent completed it yet cuz it keeps bugging

Decided to pull into a kind of collectible/thrift store today on a whim.

Couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw the statue sitting on top of a case.

Everything included nothing wrong with it and got it for 500.

Pretty sure my great vault will just have trinkets from now until next expansion

Anyone else feel housing, while great on it's own, is just far too empty? I've yet to see a single completed house in my district, let alone bump into anyone. Almost a year and plots look empty or as they did on release. I've also seen maybe two people at the hub....

I hope they actually add this to the game.

We never left the Sanctum of Domination

Retail has so much in it, so why does it feel so stale?

I’ve played WoW for years, and retail increasingly feels like a pile of systems I’ve already done with different names. More currencies, upgrade tracks, weekly chores, and another reason to run old content again. There’s plenty to keep me occupied, but very little I’m actually excited to log in for.

Talent trees are part of it. A huge tree looks impressive until you’re spending points on small passive bonuses or taking talents you need just to make the spec feel functional. There are choices I enjoy, but adding more nodes doesn’t automatically make building a character more interesting. I’d rather have fewer choices that noticeably change how I play.

I don’t mind revisiting an old dungeon occasionally. I’m tired of being expected to get excited about grinding it again because it’s back in the rotation with relevant loot. The rewards change more than the experience does.

I still enjoy the combat. That’s what makes this frustrating. I want more reasons to explore and play my character beyond keeping up with the season. Anyone else still like WoW but find the actual routine of playing it increasingly boring?

Vanilla WOW is a good game without the ongoing storytelling that was introduced after the huge Exodus to FF14. Maybe they should focus on the world and the stories around dungeons, characters and raids.

The contrast is astounding. I'm not even one of those people who think Midnight's lore is worse than your average expansion, but the sheer difference in quality and fan service with the story between WoW and Diablo IV is insane. Is it too much to ask for to expect World of Warcraft to have as serious and well written a story as Lord of Hatred?

That expansion had an all-star team of characters written so well it made me care more about Diablo's lore than ever before. There's an intense tether between the player character and Lilith that would've done wonders for Xal'atath in Midnight, it worked so well in fact that it sounds as though from here on out, Blizzard will always be tying the player character more deeply to the demons of Diablo.

Who is Arator for? I've seen nothing but disdain towards him within the community. The only moment he was spoken about with any positivity was from a cinematic. Who is Orweyna for? She's seriously so boring, the only thing I appreciate about her is the unique format of some quests involving her that allow us to explore visions of the past. Nothing about Orweyna feels like it was made for fans of World of Warcraft. No major character of an expansion should be such an obvious miss.

This is what I mean by fan service in a positive light. The writers of Diablo IV totally understood what the players wanted with Lord of Hatred and it's written so well that it doesn't feel like fan service. I truly believe that most of the developers behind this game understand what we want, they've given us so many of our demands over the past few expansions, yet they still fail to understand what we want from the story.

How did this underwhelming cutscene get approved when Forsaken Kingdom just released a few months ago!?

Lor'themar may say "no" here but it's really, to use improv terminology, a "Yes, and" in disguise. A hero of the light saves everyone, Zuljarra's people included. They take the time to cart her corpse to the cherished hero's city, and Lor'themar inexplicably thinks the first thing to bring up is that "Liadrin died for everybody actually."

Luckily Zuljarra has read the script too and knows to interrupt him with an alley-oop for his follow-up statement. What a weird way to interrupt a person. Imagine he was gonna say "Liadrin's death leaves a void in our leadership that threatens to destroy us" or something? That would have been awkward. Luckily Lor'themar was indeed telling her that the coalition of races present to stop the world-ending threat were fighting for the Amani.... but also themselves....!

Like duh man. I guess this isn't quite as egregious as the dragon aspects collectively finishing one big long sentence about freedom and american values, but it tells me they haven't learned their lesson about why that style of writing was bad

I never get on here and rant, but here goes. I have been pretty chill and live-and-let-live with the story and the dialogue in most of Midnight. It honestly hasn't been too bad, and I have enjoyed about 80% of the story so far, but what was this dialogue between the characters leading up to the Kith'ix fight?

From the moment you start getting the canoes ready until you get to the raid entrance, it sounded like those game previews where they have fake players acting like they are really playing the game and communicating with each other; it was disjointed, completely hammed up, and sounded like dialogue written by someone who has never played a video game, let alone WoW, before in their life. And the way Lor'themar and Zul'Jarra were acting the whole way was like a pre-teen big sister arguing with her little brother about something on a long road trip, not two legendary leaders of their people talking about actual loss of life and scars of the past. I hate that so many of the quests now are "we are going to have them talk about deep lore on the run and that will heal the scars of the past." This was the worst of it all. Please, please, Blizz, do not use these writers on the WoW Forever Expanded story unless they want the dialogue to sound like a 2005 creepypasta written by an edgy teen smoking menthols.

After yesterdays hotfixes one of which was:

• Fixed an issue where the kill credit for a boss may not register if it was the second time the boss had to be defeated in the same Labyrinth run.

However it seems that if you encounter the same boss a third time the game bugs out again, fails to register the kill and you can no longer progress.