r/interesting • u/angel_knight79 • 23h ago
Intriguing Kiyoshi Kimura and his effect on Somali piracy
He was, and is, the owner of Kiyomura Corporation, which runs the Sushi Zanmai chain across Japan. In Tokyo he is known as the Tuna King, because every January he buys the most expensive fish at the first auction of the year at the central market.
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u/south-of-the-river 22h ago
Funnily enough when you do six seconds of basic research you discover that he did not single handedly end Somalian piracy
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u/Beeeeeeeeee333333333 17h ago
And also most Somali pirates were fisherman beforehand, and went to piracy due to other countries illegally fishing their waters, which meant the fishermen lost their livelihoods, and turned to piracy as a way to try and protect their waters at first
Sorry, I said the quiet bit out loud
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u/mugwhyrt 12h ago
Yeah, even without knowing the full story this infographic has a bit of a racist, colonial tinge to it. It seemed implausible that Somali people "didn't know" how to fish and they just needed someone from a more "developed" country to teach them. As if there aren't any other factors pushing them to piracy.
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u/zerozeroseis 12h ago
Word on the street is they got all their fish through piracy
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u/Chocolatecake420 12h ago
You wouldn't download a fish would you?
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u/jsh1-7-9 12h ago
I wouldn't microwave a fish or download a fish.
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u/SnooShortcuts7206 9h ago
You wouldn’t fishload a microdown!
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u/IceNein 8h ago
Somalians started pirating because their government collapsed, and therefore their coast guard/navy were unable to enforce local fishing rights.
Initially they only pirated foreign commercial fishing vessels illegally fishing their waters, but as with all crime/vigilantism once money entered the conversation, they expanded their successful piracy operations.
Point is, these people started out as fishermen. They didn’t need some Japanese guy to teach them what they had done for their entire lives.
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u/anniecet 13h ago
I’m glad you did say it out loud. I was unaware of that information. I don’t know that I had really thought about why the Somali pirates came to be.
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u/echo_3851 12h ago
It wasn’t only illegal fishing. Developed countries used to dump chemical waste/substance near somali shores and a lot of them got sick and kids developed diseases.
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u/closecallbois 12h ago
at first it was a means to protect the waters from foreign illegal fishing. these foreigners had massive ships that literally destroy even the sea bed. these communities have been fishing for centuries. as time went on a lot of these people who were just protecting the waters realised the amount of money they can make from just straight out piracy. so yeah they had a very justifiable reason at the beginning but as time went on they became horrible. but yeah anyways this would’ve never happened if foreign fishermen just left our waters alone. it was a very peaceful waterway before the surge of piracy.
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u/south-of-the-river 17h ago
I actually thought this was fairly general knowledge tbh
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u/Meme-Botto9001 15h ago
No most people believe it’s just because the third world people just want to steal shit and not work for it.
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u/roadrunnuh 14h ago
Besides, they said "I said the quiet part out loud" so now it's reddit certified.
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u/Beeeeeeeeee333333333 16h ago
I guess it is? As I've now seen lots of people in these comments that have said the same. But I remember not too long ago on other social media, all anybody would refer to them as, was pirates, and no one would ever give the correct reasoning for why they now engage in piracy. People just assumed they chose to be pirates
So maybe Reddit is just better in that regard
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u/BuilderMysterious762 16h ago
Literally! So many redditors would comment gleefully about russians who sailed in Somali oceans that they didnt go far enough in attacking them instead of asking why them Russians were so confident to stroll into another countrys ocean and start fighting with the actual people who live there
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u/theanswar 12h ago
This is a really well done expose on factory raised fish farms, which touches on what you're saying about unsafe working conditions and the 3rd world pressures of fishing.
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u/RogueAOV 12h ago
Hey now don't forget other countries dumped nuclear waste off thier coasts and destroyed a lot of the wildlife habitat so they turned to piracy because they could no longer fish.
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u/lastaccountgotlocked 22h ago
He did but only because the pirates chopped off one of his hands and then said "let's call it a day".
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u/BeardsuptheWazoo 22h ago
He's going to be all right
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u/OldJames47 22h ago
Well he would be all right, but unfortunately they lost him.
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u/fullcircle052 21h ago
Yeah, he just got away from us. We walked into his room and he was just gone. We don't know where he went
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u/alghiorso 18h ago
It looks like he's dead
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u/fullcircle052 18h ago
He died?
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u/Firestorm238 21h ago
Unfortunately he replaced his hand with a hook and now Japanese piracy is on the rise.
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u/Taron221 21h ago
What!? But there’s a picture with a face on it!
…I really don’t know what to believe anymore.
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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 18h ago
In fact it has two of him, one wearing a MJ glove, so if that's not proof enough for you, I don't know what is
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u/kepachodude 19h ago
But OP’s account is 2 months old and he’s using an image with big letters… seems genuine to me
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u/Hakunin_Fallout 17h ago
Well, you can be sarcastic all you want, but there are 9400 people so far (most of whom are adults, can vote, etc.) who have upvoted this bs picture, lmao.
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u/conansucksdick 8h ago
You can tell by the picture that he has at least 2 hands.
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u/Kratzschutz 14h ago
Why can't we report this shit to Reddit? Didn't they have a "misinformation" option once?
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u/gogeri2632 14h ago
If there wasn't misinformation on reddit then probably 80% of this website's content would be gone.
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u/marvology 11h ago
Any time I see a post formatted like this, I automatically assume it's a bullshit caption. Reddit really needs a system for filtering out this garbage. 16K upvotes for fiction
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 7h ago
Words over a picture that you want to believe are the ultimate source on reddit
Also just from my own sociocultural background really gives me weird vibes when it comes off "look at these backwards Africans too dumb to know how to fish so they just steal fish instead"
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u/thenamziel 17h ago
The pirates were fishermen till foreign fleets invaded Somali waters and robbed the hatcheries blind.
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u/7vckm40 18h ago
It’s even more suspicious when you know that Somalia’s EEZ gets violated regularly by foreign fishing vessels.
This could honestly be a deliberate misinformation post.
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u/dskmy117 15h ago
This is a lot like when Barack Obama became president and "ended racism."
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u/PhotojournalistOwn60 15h ago
Wasn't this a right wing talking point? I remember Obama repeatedly saying the exact opposite, that racism is no where near gone.
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u/ezmoney98 13h ago
I dont know , I haven't seen a single Somalian Pirate since 2012 or ever
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u/L-J- 13h ago
Well they are just lurking on the edge of your vision. An impossible threat held back by only this humble sushi chain owner.
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u/TiberiusKno49 13h ago
Unfortunately he also taught them the ways of the samurai.
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u/Memphisrexjr 14h ago
Whoa whoa whoa. I did not come here for the truth. I came here for the convincing headline and nothing more.
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u/Blindguybill1 21h ago
Really he's got pictures, also I'm pretty sure all the pirates are in that boat with him right now and they look impressed.
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u/Automatic_Bus_7634 13h ago
Whenever you see an uncited screenshot of a headline posted on reddit you can generally assume it's not true
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u/TarArov 5h ago
The reality of this story is a classic example of nuanced truth vs. internet myth. Did **Kiyoshi Kimura** single-handedly sail into the Gulf of Aden and stop Somali piracy with the power of sushi? No. The dramatic crash in piracy from 237 attacks in 2011 to near-zero a few years later was overwhelmingly driven by international naval task forces, armed private security on merchant ships, and improved ship defense tactics.
However, what Kimura actually did is still incredibly admirable. As the "Tuna King" and CEO of Sushizanmai, he recognized that many pirates were originally local fishermen driven to desperation by poverty, civil war, and foreign illegal trawlers depleting their waters. Instead of funding a military response, he provided four fishing boats, supported cold-storage facilities, taught locals how to catch yellowfin tuna, and promised to buy their entire catch. He even helped lobby for Somalia to be included in the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission to open up export markets. While navies provided the suppression, Kimura's project provided the *alternative livelihood* that gave these communities a reason not to return to piracy. It's a textbook case of addressing the actual root socioeconomic cause of crime rather than just shooting at the symptoms.
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u/UrADumbdumbi 3h ago
How did they not know how to catch tuna if they’re originally fishermen?
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u/sandolllars 2h ago
You can catch an occasional tuna in shallow waters, where most people with small
Boats fish. If you want to catch tuna in huge schools, you need expertise that experts in near-shore fishing don’t have. And you need fish-finding equipment. And you need large boats.→ More replies (1)3
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u/lastaccountgotlocked 22h ago
[citation needed]
These guys were fisherman before turning to piracy. I don't think they needed some rich Japanese guy to teach them to fish.
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u/south-of-the-river 22h ago
Yeah he bought four fishing boats for some dudes that were already local fishermen and some infrastructure. He did do some economic good and got an award for it.
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u/Kitchen-Space6210 21h ago
Yeah that's basically the real story. He donated some boats and infrastructure, which is a nice gesture, but it's a massive stretch to say it had any real effect on piracy overall. The decline was driven by international naval patrols, better ship security practices, and Somalia slowly stabilizing. One rich guy buying four boats doesn't end an entire criminal industry.
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u/FrequentReplacement 19h ago
It's almost like systemic problems require systemic solutions.
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u/twirling-upward 13h ago
In this case it just required mercenaries on boats, which increased shipping costs slightly.
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u/Joe_Kangg 22h ago
And they stopped downloading movies for free?
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u/No_Walk_Town 15h ago
J-savior complex. A LOT of Japanese tv is just J-savior reality shows. "Look at this civilized Japanese man teach those savages basic skills" and "Look at these tourists [savages] marvel at basic amenities in Japan" are both entire genres of reality tv here.
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u/Peymyse 12h ago
You just described every isekai manga ever.
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u/East-Doctor-7832 11h ago
Teaching the barbarian brad eating fantasy europeans the fantastic plain white rice
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u/Rotomegax 22h ago
But fish a tuna to eat raw like Japan demand shitons of time, expensive gear and complex procedure. The fish must be slowly raised and no physical contact (including harpoon) to prevent Lactic Acid formed.
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u/Repulsive-Whole-4101 18h ago
how does that has so many upvote ?
Reddit is just as fucked all the other socials
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u/judgeholden72 15h ago
People here, of all persuasions, believe words over images if it makes them feel good. They only require an article if it doesn't.
Why is few ask for articles backing up random images baffles me
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u/bs000 15h ago
when someone does post an article, everyone just automatically accepts the image as the truth, even though there's nothing in the article that corroborates the image except for maybe a couple of small, barely related details that the lie was derived from
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u/Cultural-Elk-8346 10h ago
The average person is thick as pig shit.
Came straight to the comments because this was (hopefully to most) obvious shite
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u/CarllSagan 23h ago
That tuna goes for HIGH PRICES so he probably convinced them its more profitable
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u/NoSuddenMoves 22h ago
They sell them for $25. Best ever food review show visited the market.
They told sonny they don't eat fish in Somalia. The ones they catch get sold to other countries. He basically asked why a country of starving people wouldn't eat fish. He was told they don't know how to cook it.
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u/DatDiemDam 22h ago
How on earth people dont know how to cook fish? Chop it and put it in the pot, there you go, you have fish soup. Or impale it with a stick, put it near fire and there you go, skewer fish. And many more way to cook fish.
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u/NoSuddenMoves 21h ago
They said historically they've e raised livestock and fish just isn't a part of their culture.
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u/Danson_the_47th 21h ago
Give a man to fish and he goes hungry. Teach a man to fish and he still goes hungry because he doesn’t know how to cook it.
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u/PhantomOfTheNopera 20h ago
My uncle was posted in a part of Angola some decades ago. They used to sell lobster by the bucket because it wasn't very popular there. He went there more recently and apparently things have changed.
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u/thefuckevengoingonan 18h ago
people in the US used to bury their lobster shells out of shame. it was fed to prisoners and slaves.
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u/imbogey 19h ago
This has to be a ragebait or what ever. There is no way people starve rather than eat fish.
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u/Admirable_Cost_6856 22h ago
On one hand I wish we were not over fishing, but gyod dam does Tuna slap. blame god, tuna, for being so tastey
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u/NoSuddenMoves 21h ago
The somalians fish everything. Even dolphins that are caught are cut up and used as shark bait.
In somali culture dolphins are considered magical creatures so they say the dolphins drowned in the nets and they don't want to waste it.
Honestly they just don't want to let the other fish in the net go for the dolphins to live. Is what it is situation.
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u/therapist66 17h ago edited 17h ago
Somali here, this is nonsense.. they know how to cook it
It’s just more expensive than red meat. The fish goes to restaurants and overseas
And the fishermen know how to catch tuna, they been doing so all their life’s. Idk what this guy taught them exactly
Edit: did some google.. he gave four boats, set up cold storage,distribution and purchasing networks and lobbied for Somalias inclusion in the Indian Ocean tuna commission to open legitimate export channels to the world tuna markets.
Bless this man
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u/Salty-You-8227 14h ago
This should be the top comment - It contains what he actually did rather than trivializing the narrative
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u/Difficult_Falcon707 21h ago
This is not true. Source: have eaten fish in Somalia.
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u/ComqlicatedRepublix 20h ago
Exactly. Folks are confusing preference with what Somalis actually eat. Fish and chicken are common in coastal cities like Mogadishu and Merka, while goat and sheep are more common in other areas, especially rural ones. It’s mostly just preference and availability.
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u/CivBEWasPrettyBad 19h ago edited 12h ago
Uh... They obviously eat fish from their massive coastline?
Also https://nationaldishrecipes.com/national-dish-somalia-somali-fish-stew-recipe/
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u/AymuiLove 19h ago
According to Reddit, Somalia is apperently a country made up entierly of bumbling idiots who don't know how to cook or fish. Two things humanity has been doing for more than 3,000 years. At this point, you're assuming that cavemen are more resourceful than the population of a current day nation. You must be extra stupid to believe something like this.
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u/ParanMekhar 22h ago
Plot twist: Tuna is code for cargo ships.
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u/The_Creator23 21h ago edited 9h ago
This is so fucking stupid please dont believe this. I am Somali and there main reason for 'piracy', as the west calls it, is due to the violation of our borders and these giant fishing ship coming into where our homes are and over fishing everything. This causes so many issue for the villages, as fishing is the main money maker that we have.
We know how to fish, we are not some fucking charity case that needs these people to help us fish. We've been literally doing this for multiple generations. We just want these corporation to leave our country alone, they don't have any rights to our oceans. But no we are criminals for fighting for our rights and lives, do you wish for us to just let them do as they wish while we starve and are driven away from our homes?
Also I wish to add that I don't agree with any random attacks on ships in the area that is wrong. But we should have the right to defend ourselves from these fishing ships coming primarily from China, but honestly its a free for all.
*edit# So I've seen the replies saying this doesn't excuse the attacking of cargoships for no reason, and 100% agree. But what I am trying to make people understand that the reason this began in the first place is due to main source of income being destroyed for my people. And just to add the fault doesn't only necessaryly lie on these other countries, the main issue is the Somali government being corrupt and useless.
Also to the dumbasses saying "but you were Australian in other post" have you never heard of migration. I am 100% Somali living in Australia.
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u/RT-LAMP 20h ago edited 20h ago
The estimate is that illegal or unreported fishing costs Somalia $170-700 million per year (after inflation adjusting the studies). And as it stands fishing is just 1-3% of Somalia's GDP ($150-450 million). But that's out of an estimated 2 billion in possible revenue.
Also a lot of the problem isn't other nations fishing. It's Somalians fishing, and then selling the fish off their boats illegally to other nations, or just not reporting landings that do make it to Somalia. One study found official figures were 30,000 MT landed whereas the actual estimate in Puntland alone was 110,000.
Somalia's problem with it's fishing industry isn't foreign fishing fleets, it's problem is it's own lack of institutional capacity to build an industry. And that' what Kimura actually did. The fishing was a photo-op, what he actually did was give them the know how, connections, and equipment to take their catch sell it on the international market.
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u/Gymflutter 19h ago
Somalia didnt have a reliable stable government which essentially means NORMAL activities are now illegal. These ships were not just over-fishing, they were also dumping toxic hazardous material!
“In the late 1980s, European companies dumped waste such as uranium, lead, cadmium, mercury and other industrial toxins in northern Somalia, but the trend picked up rapidly after the violent ouster of Somali leader Muhammad Siad Barri in 1991, according to UN officials”
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2005/3/4/tsunami-exposes-somalia-toxic-waste
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u/Unlikely_Emu8238 19h ago
So what’s with the videos of ‘pirates’ trying to board container ships? I don’t think container ships are also casting out fishing nets as the sail past.
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u/PagKev 19h ago
using this as an excuse to hijack fishing vessels is quesionable enough, even more as those are usually hijacked to use them as a base of opertation against cargo vessel
but using it as an excuse to hijack cargo vessel i whackit is fuking piracy
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u/Stampdaddy7 8h ago
Thanks for the insight, this isn't something that I even knew was going on. I knew things were bad but didn't realize it had such a large part to do with the fishing industry.
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u/henri_katzman 20h ago
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles/10.3389/fmars.2019.00704/full
A lot more coming from other nations, and reports about overfishing from China only comes recently between 2024-2025. What a convenient coincidence.
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u/Hammon_Rye 19h ago
So Somalis are mad at foreign fishermen and that is why they are hijacking oil tankers and cargo ships?
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u/OwOwOwoooo 19h ago
Crimes come from poverty. Taking away one of the main if not only way of making money available create poverty.
That's not rocket science, my dude.
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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 19h ago
And from being a crim. Most poor people are honest. The vast majority of us, in fact. Screw the crims and screw people assuming I'm a crim cause I'm poor
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u/KitsuMusics 18h ago
Just think of it on a population level. Poverty increases, so does crime. It doesn't mean poor people are all criminals. Just that when people are backed into a corner they'll do what they have to do to survive.
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u/quequotion 20h ago
I am curious how it is possible that a Japanese CEO got in and out of a boat full of pirates without being held for ransom for weeks.
Any insights?
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u/Detail_Lost 19h ago
I believe the story was something like he was a former Japanese Defense force member but had to retire early after getting injured and started a sushi restaurant business as his next endeavor.
Years later he learned from his former colleagues stationed in Djibouti that Somali pirates they’re dealing with were formerly fishermen out of work.
He decided to help out by investing in boats which can fish tuna, facilities required to export internationally and connecting them to the his restaurant chain and other buyers.
Turning pirates back to fishermen helped them get back on their feet but also reduced risk his colleagues getting attacked by pirates and on top of that his restaurant chain got new source of tuna fish.I’d guess initial contact with the pirates got help from the former colleagues in the force or maybe he convinced captured pirates to try being fishermen again?
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u/qorbexl 17h ago
Most criminals aren't bad people, just people with no other real choices and no way to get of the situation
That's why social outreach and social programs are useful for society
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u/Ser_Optimus 18h ago
I can assure you that people with normally functioning brains will not believe bullshit like this.
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u/dadofwar93 22h ago
Did he also end world hunger? What a load of rubbish.
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u/Professional_Put2315 22h ago
he ended my hunger once
although my wallet felt like it got looted by pirates
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u/InterestingUsirname 20h ago
The whole reason the Somalis turned to piracy in the first place was that their fisheries were being intruded upon and overfished by international vessels. There's never been a knowledge problem, though there may be an equipment problem. The real problem is that their government is nonexistent and has a complete inability to enforce their EEZ, something greedy people wrongfully decided to try and take advantage of
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u/RMRdesign 12h ago
To piggy back off your comment.
Other countries have also been dumping toxic waste and garbage off their coasts.
It’s all around fucked up and I don’t blame Somalis turning to piracy to try and stops these things from happening.
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u/StraightAirline8319 9h ago
By international they mean African and asian vessels. Including Japanese and Chinese vessels.
China is the largest illegal and most damaging fishing fleet in known history.
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u/Jimmykingwillruleyou 8h ago
Oh shit so you're saying the rich no matter where they live are rich because of the unethical acts they perform in the ever consuming need to have more?
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u/Pressman4life 13h ago
There was also illegal dumping of toxic waste in the waters. Then, like the privateers of olde, they went in to business for themselves.
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u/This-Construction926 22h ago
no he didn't .. International anti-piracy measures (i.e treating pirate ships as target practice) did
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u/Ramen_Muncher_1093 22h ago
Sorry but piracy ending part is false.
Yes, Somali pirates are active and have experienced a significant resurgence
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u/kindlypogmothoin 22h ago
Unlikely, since the reason the Somalis were turning to piracy in the first place was that without a functioning government and Navy, Somalia was unable to enforce its international waters and fisheries and the Somali fishermen were getting outfished by huge boats from Europe. So, unable to make a living at fishing, they turned to piracy.
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u/Live-You-5672 21h ago
Top Wild Fish Capture Countries (Annual Estimates)
- China: ~13.2 million metric tons
- Indonesia: ~7.4 million metric tons
- Peru: ~5.4 million metric tons
- Russia: ~5.0 million metric tons
- India: ~5.5 million metric tons
- United States: ~4.3 million metric tons
- Japan: ~3.0 million metric tons
yes Europe bad, very bad
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u/etherealtwo 21h ago
That's not how it works. Europe would be listed as individual nations. But also, it doesn't matter. If Europe happens to concentrate a lot of its fishing near Somalia, it doesn't matter that they're not top 5 fishers in the world if they're still the top fisher near Somalia.
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u/FOKvothe 18h ago
The European fishing vessels that have been in Somali ocean are pretty much only Spanish - - other countries tend to only fish in European waters. Illegal Chinese, Taiwanese and South Korean fishing vessels are fleecing pretty much every fish stock they can reliably go to, and are the primary offenders in Somalia.
The book "Outlaw Ocean" has a section about the illegal fishing in Somalia.
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u/SitaVilosa 21h ago
Ah yes, let's use global statistics and not the statistics specific to Somalian waters. Of course.
Small boats from Iran and Yemen, and big ships from Europe, were primarily responsible for fishing in Somalian waters. Chinese and Indonesian boats were not listed as the main problem for Somalia.
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u/IdleAlex05 13h ago
Even a google will answer this, not even about consumed and captured, just simply look up which countries caught most amount of fish illegally in Somali waters, is mostly stuff like China, Pakistan, Iran, Taiwan, Korea and many other Asian countries, out of Europe because is not EUROPE country, is a continent, is mostly Norway,UK,Portugal and Spain.
But the main one is still China, you have articles from news sources from Africa and most of the African countries seem to complain mostly about China illegally fishing in their waters.
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u/french_snail 21h ago
You think fishing vessels from countries like Peru, the US, Russia, and Japan are sailing allllll the way to Somalia to steal their fish? And countries that are closer to Somalia aren’t the cause?
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u/OrgasmicTrilobite 20h ago
Chinas megafleets fish EVERYWHERE. Theyll have a thousand small boats all supplying a mother ship in the middle/ their impact on global fisheries is staggering
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u/DreadlockWalrus 16h ago
They also actively fish in prohibited waters by turning off their trackers.
It's truly sickening.
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u/schmapeschmape 20h ago
Yes, ships from Russia, China, and Japan all fish off the coast of Africa. Commercial ships will travel to fish to pursue a certain species of fish or because fish are plentiful in that area.
Ships from many countries fish in Somalia's waters: Spain, France, Thailand, India, Pakistan etc...
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u/dchiculat 20h ago
Indonesia and grece (the closest european country not counting turkey if you count turkey as europe) are roughly (measured from Google Maps in a straight line wich the greek vessels csnt follow and the indonesian ones do) the same distance from Somalia. Not saying Europe isn't the exploiter here (as they often are in africa) just that your reasoning is wrong
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u/Daniel_The_Thinker 20h ago
I mean China does it off the coast of South America so not that big a stretch.
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u/FOKvothe 18h ago
They've had fishing vessels in the Faroe Islands as well. Their fishing fleet is enormous,and that's not even accounting their shadow fleet, where the ships are registered under different flags in order to obscure ownership and country of origin. Taiwan, South Korea, and China are pretty much pillaging every ocean they can sail to. Some of the vessels have literal slave labour on board. Outlaw Ocean goes into how these ships operate.
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u/aiaidy 20h ago
if someone robs a bank it doesn't mean they are the top 10 richest person in the country.
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u/AerondightWielder 20h ago
The only way I know he's Kimura is because of Yakuza. He has those cartoon cutouts of himself outside Sushi Zanmai.
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u/Certain_Still_324 15h ago
Who knew he also helped pirates to atuna for their sins.
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u/AerondightWielder 15h ago
Somewhere out there, there's a Yakuza substory involving Kiryu, this dude and the Somali pirates.
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u/Mikunefolf 4h ago
What a load of absolute tripe. The piracy still exists and has not gone away. I am sure the Somalian pirates who were all ex-fishermen totally needed an enlightened rich foreigner to teach them how to fish even though they were doing it for thousands of years 🙄.
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u/Mr_and_Mrs_Sazabi 22h ago
I don't know who's the bigger idiot. The op or the people that believe this.
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