Jovic/Jokic

Last night my league had their auction draft and the manager with the first selection nominated Nikola Jovic to be bid on first...

Clearly everyone was expecting Nikola Jokic there, as half of the managers didn't pay close attention & immediately started bidding quickly, driving his price up. It ultimately seemed like the managers caught on later as the bidding stopped short of what past Jokic bids went for, but not before it reached $80 (out of the $200 you get to buy players).

So now we have a manager in our league with Nikola Jovic at $80!!! While "unfair" in some opinions, it's within the rules and it worked!

What do you think - was this dirty af, or diabolically clever?!

Hey everyone! I finished up my massive Buckets Board of 9-category rankings, plus an article detailing how to best use the list.

What do you guys think? Who am I too high on? Do you agree with the Flier Tiers? Health risks? Let's chat about it!

It’s actually impressive how bad it is. Did my first draft on yahoo this season, then went to see my team and the desire to play significantly dropped down and I really like my team. Horrendous stuff fellas.

I've heard a lot about punting but have never had the courage to do it. And wonder if its actually a good strategy. I used the simulation engine from ENFUEGO to run a Monte Carlo simulation for 1,000 12-team 9-cat H2H snake drafts and full 20-week seasons (plus 6-team playoffs) for 11 different punt strategies. To keep it fair, the test team rotated evenly through all 12 draft slots against 11 normal ADP/value drafters, took best player available in Round 1, and then committed to its build from Round 2 onward.

A few of these lined up with what I expected, and a couple completely surprised me (especially Punt AST on top).

What do you guys make of these numbers? Why do you think Punt TO and Punt 3PM tanked so hard here compared to Punt AST or Punt REB?

Is it me or has the market cooled off on him? Seems like he's going in the mid 4th round. I think that's pretty good value for player that can give you elite blocks with good 3's and scoring. He's like the last shot blocking big that goes off the board in that range with Kessler and Clingan who go ahead of him.

I don't understand why Kessler has a more premium price when JJJ is more established. Is this just a Laker tax?

Put together a spreadsheet for my draft and figured I'd share.

[LINK]

Feel free to download or create a copy!

What's in it:

- Top 250 in Dan Titus' (Yahoo) 9-cat order, color-coded by position

- Separate PG / SG / SF / PF / C tabs (multi-position guys show up on every tab they qualify for)

- 2025-26 per-game stats for each player: PTS, REB, AST, STL, BLK, 3PM, FG%, FT%, TO, plus GP and minutes

- Heatmap on the 9 cats so you can spot category strengths and punt fits quickly

- Flags for rookies, guys who missed last season, and small samples

Rankings are Dan Titus' (Yahoo), and the stats are from Basketball-Reference. The order is from his late-September update, so double-check any late risers.

Good luck in your drafts!

My guy Zach Reifschneider has updated his top 450 rankings for NBA dynasty leagues. He explains why he's moved some players up and down his board since this summer.

How are people evaluating both of these players. Looking at projected stats, they have almost identical stats. However Kessler ADP is around 45 while Gobert is 62

Is the difference here mainly due to Luka and projecting Kessler to take a jump? Gobert is also healthier so that should benefit him. Looking at projections the only real difference is blocks, but is that worth almost 1.5 rounds of value in a draft?

Guys like Duren/Clingan are also in the same area so feel free to discuss them as well.

Based on value, who would you rather have in a draft?

What are some good team names? Puns, funny, dark humour. Names for Tatum, Sengun, Paolo etc.

Is drafting Giannis and not punting threes viable? I feel like every mock I’ve done where I try to keep threes I end up being average in like five categories whereas when I punt threes I’m a lot more solid and in rebounds, blocks, steals and assists. Any drafting recommendations / player recommendations?

I got the 5th pick this year and put real prep into a punt-3PM build. The person with pick 1 was on holiday and missed the draft entirely, so I had a hopeful assumption that he wasn't going to be particularly good.

He was completely fine. Having Jokic gives him the most categories above average of any team in the league. He projects at about my level with zero effort.

In most leagues the first pick is a huge edge, like in my league if someone who was trying got the first pick its safe to assume he would easily be the favorite to win. It makes me wonder about third round reversal and whether that's actually a good way to counter it, or if it just screws more people over?

(For those who don't know, third round reversal is that round 3 runs the same direction as round 2, so the pick-1 owner gets a later pick in round 3 and the pick-10 owner gets an earlier one).

Would be keen to hear from people who have tried third round reversal, was it a flop or did it work well?

Projections here if you want to see how it shook out: fantasyblacksmith.com/league-analyzer?shared=bixyrix3l3,

Hey everyone, I wanted to share punt guides I've constructed:

Punt assists - https://fantasygoats.guru/guides/punt-assists

Punt blocks - https://fantasygoats.guru/guides/punt-blocks

Hopefully you find it useful

Kawhi, Dame, Kyrie, Trae, Hali, Tatum?

Just updated the app like a few mins ago and now all the player pictures (usually you can toggle left/right to show player picture or not) on the ”my team” page on the app are gone?

Anyone else running into this problem or is my app glitching?

It's pretty widely predicted that guys like AD and Embiid will miss significant time this season (because they always do). Who is stepping into the starting lineup on those teams? And how much does that boost the value of those guys? A few names I have in mind are Adem Bona (Embiid), Ayton or maybe Coulibaly? (AD), CMB/Ja'Kobe Walter (Kawhi), Ajay Mitchell (JDub), DeRozan (Nuggets whole team), and Bobby Portis (Giannis).

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Draft season is wrapping up and I'm looking at my roster trying to figure out how to approach week 1. Even with all the cool websites out there for managing my team, there are still some things that feel unnecessarily tedious. For fantasy managers in competitive 9-cat or points leagues (other leagues okay too): what is the most annoying part of your weekly routine as a fantasy bball manager that the current tools you use don't make easy? What part of the routine is the biggest time waster that you also wish you had a simple solution to?

Hi,

I have set up my pre ranking draft for my draft. But in the mock draft, even with my list actived, the auto pick selects a player that is later in my list even if the previous one is available. Usuaully around the 8th or 9th pick.

Example : I put Lendeborg before PJ Washington. And in the result, I see PJ selected instead of Lendeborg, who was also available.

Am I the only one?

PS : I have done my pre list because I won't be available at the scheduled draft of my league.

Hey folks. Long-time lurker and occasional commenter here - wanted to share a project I’ve been working on for the past few months.

TLDR: heypresti.com - Real time auction drafts that are configurable for how you like to run stuff. It’s free, easy to set up, no spam/tracking, no betting BS and works well for both in-person and remote. Currently in beta. Longer term plan is open source/self host plus make hosted drafts $5 a pop to keep the lights on.

If you like a yarn.... Hey Presti (heypresti.com) is my take on the best way to run a real time auction draft. My main squeeze fantasy league has been doing auctions for years and we love it. We have a split in-person and remote draft night and last year I had to be remote for the first time and realised that it really kinda sucked. I also know that our commissioner spends most of his focus on dealing with his (honestly pretty amazing) auction spreadsheet and trying to keep up with remote bids over WhatsApp/video chat etc.

I assumed that what I wanted would already exist and it kinda does - but all the options felt expensive, spammy or didn’t have all the features I wanted. I run a small dev agency here in NZ and have been coding since the early 00’s so I figured why not just build something small and simple, just for our league... you can guess the rest. Got a bit obsessed, went down the rabbit hole, scope creep etc etc.

Key things I was aiming for:

• Lightning fast, real-time bidding with reliable, durable auction state.
• Easy and painless to set up - only the commissioner needs an account, everyone else just gets an invite code. No tracking, spam or anything resembling a business model.
• Easy on the eye, easy to use on phone, laptop, or the projector view. Ideally no instructions required.
• Configurable for different formats: sequential or nomination (or switch between them mid-draft), keepers, optional countdown timers, mid-draft trades.
• Fair play built in: anti-snipe auto extending timers, budget checks so everyone can afford a full roster, and the commissioner can’t hammer their own leading bids.

If you are into code etc, my main idea was that a Cloudflare Durable Object would be a perfect draft room. DOs process one action at a time, so bids can’t collide, and the auction logic is event sourced, so every bid/hammer etc is recorded in an append-only log that can’t be rewritten. Events run over websockets to keep every screen synced (close to) instantly.

Is this vibe-coded slop? Depends how you view it. I certainly used AI to speed things up but I’ve been pretty intimately involved throughout and this is a long way from my first app. AI is definitely what made me more ambitious to make a more general solution though!

I was hoping to get this out sooner but work/life got in the way. Hopefully better later than never! If you're game, I’d love it if you gave it a try. From in the app, click your avatar top right and click ‘Send Feedback’ to let me know what you think!

As the season begins and drafts are beginning to heat up, what do you guys think is the best place to draft?

I personally am in a 14 man league (points), so what is the best option here(if any?)

Do you guys notice different tiers, or a certain overall pick after which players drop off?

Did some quick analysis to see assist to turnover ratios (projected stats), even tho its not one of the standard 9-cat. Just trying to see if we can have a build that does not punt AST or TO, who are the best fits.

My ESPN league scoring doesn’t seem to make sense. Maybe I’m stupid it’s our first year with ESPN. It’s 2 points for every FGM and -1 for every FGA. If a player shoots 50% from the field they net zero points right. Let’s say they go 10 for 20 shots 10*2 =20 20 points for FGM and the subtract 20 for FGA…. It’s the same for free throws. If the player misses one Free Throw they are negative scoring.

For example Cade last night.
14/2/9

5/11 FGM for -1 points. Plus 2 for 2 3pm Netting 1 point
2 rebounds for 2 points
9 assists for 18 points
2/2 FTM for 0
1 steal for 4
5 TOs for -10

NET SCORE 15 fantasy points. I get it was a preseason game

ANT would’ve been even worse at 2 net points right? 20/0/3/2/0. 1 3pm. 5/5 FTM.

Like I understand it was a bad game for both but those are terrible scores coming from sleeper.

Would this not make players like Mitchell Robinson borderline unplayable?

EDIT: Counts points made already too. Thanks for the clarification

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