r/scifi • • 17h ago

Print Old Man's War by John Scalzi - I don't understand the hype?

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Just finished this book last night and felt very underwhelmed by it. I love military scifi, I've read Starship Troopers, The Forever War, Armor, lots of Warhammer 40k books etc... and saw people recommending this book as a great follow-up to books like that, but after finishing it I was a bit confused as to why people mention it alongside those.

To be clear, I didn't hate the book, there were parts that were good, especially some of the funny bits. And I liked the idea of transferring people's consciousness into new bodies specifically engineered for combat after their natural lives have come to a close on Earth. John Perry's love of his wife was also very sweet and was a good connection to The Forever War.

But overall, I found the book rather bland, unoriginal, lacking in detail, and bafflingly American-centric. The prose was just sub-standard, very straightforward which sometimes helped with the comedy bits but detracted from any feeling of scale or awe. The ships and planets were poorly described so that they just ended up looking very generic in my head. The armor the soldiers wear was also uninteresting. There were no cool vehicles and the space battles were weak.

There weren't really any epic battles in general, and the battles that were there felt contrived. Some of the tactics used were really lame (like the two-shot firing solution he uses to fight the Consu, that seems like something their onboard AI could have come up with on its own). The aliens were also not interesting, they have none of the richness or unique aspects that make aliens so cool, they were just enemies to kill, with the exception of the Consu, though even they were underwritten.

Look, I've never been in the military, so I can't really act like I know what combat actually feels like, but I felt like the combat scenes were clearly written by someone who not only had never been in the military, but hadn't spent much time studying conflict at all. I learned afterwards that he wanted to write a comedic scifi book and tacked on the military aspect because he thought it would sell better, and in retrospect that really makes sense.

I definitely tend to lean more into hard sci-fi, or at least sci-fi that feels believable and tries make either a convincing alternate universe or a convincing vision of the future, and this was neither. My favorite scifi author of all time is Iain M. Banks, and comparing this to that was like comparing a loaf of white bread to a delicious fully loaded sandwich.

I recently read The Mote in Gods Eye (which I also had some big problems with, especially that it is such a fascist and conservative vision of the future), but the aliens in that book are so unique and well-thought out, and the space battleships are wonderfully described and operate in a believable way that makes you feel that the authors either had personal experience in the military or really did their research. In this book, the spaceships are barely even described. All they do is fire off a few missiles or simply get blown up by enemy missiles.

Speaking of believable visions of the future, one big pet peeve I have of certain scifi, especially newer books where the author should know better, is when a vision of hundreds of years in the future is still heavily American-centric (and by the way, The Mote in Gods Eye is also an example of this, but not quite as bad). As far as I recall there was exactly one obviously non-American character, a Peruvian who is killed almost immediately after being introduced. Every other character just feels like a stereotype of a late 20th century American. There is no explanation as to why the CDF is so dominated by Americans when we are and will almost certainly continue to be a minority of people in the world. I don't think there is a single Asian character even though Asians constitute the majority of humankind, except for the odd bit about how for all the colonists are South Asian after we nuked them for some unexplained reason? And then we don't even get to meet any of these colonists, which makes the stakes of protecting them feel a lot lower. You need a scene where he defends colonists directly and they question his humanity or something like that. It would have been really easy to just mention that this section happened to be an American group, and they keep nationalities together for bonding reasons or something like that, but we get nothing. Even the Ghost Brigades all have American names and are named after Western scientists.

The closest comparison you can make with this book is The Forever War, except The Forever War is vastly more interesting. The bits in The Forever War about how human society has evolved in the time the main character has spent fighting make it a fascinating vision of the future, whereas Old Man's War seems to have Earth society practically unchanged from now, or if is different, we hear almost nothing about how it has changed. The aliens in The Forever War are unique and weird. The Forever War also ends with an interesting resolution to the conflict, with humanity changed forever by it, whereas Old Man's War just kind of ends.

Does the rest of the series get better than this?


r/scifi • • 5h ago

General Why aren't there more R-Rated Space Sagas in SciFi?

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I've noticed that most major space-themed sci-fi sagas (Star Wars, Star Trek, Dune, etc.) are almost exclusively rated PG-13. I know there are R-rated indie movies out there, but I wonder why more mainstream series never venture into R-rated or TV-MA content, whereas in Fantasy it seems more common (Game of Thrones, The Witcher, etc.)?


r/scifi • • 7h ago

Print Is Valerian and Laureline still relevant today or dead and forgotten?

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How do folks feel about Valerian and Laureline? The original graphic novels? I saw the movie but the two leads distracted too much from the story, just too juvenile and no chemistry. I tried to watch the anime version Time Stop on youtube, it was allright, but the English voice actor for Valerian just sounded way too whiney, I couldn't stand it. Then I ordered the first comic graphic novel, and they are totally different portrayed than other media, Valerian being far more mature and take charge than the other media. Really enjoying it. Are there any other works or novels set in the Valerian world ever planned? I know the original author and artist have passed and they will probably never ever do another movie or TV show because of the 2017 flop. Also, did Lucas copy stuff from the original comics graphic novels for Star Wars? I heard a lot was similar but Lucas denies it.


r/scifi • • 46m ago

Recommendations The Vanished Birds has become one of my favorite books!

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I just wanted to come here and encourage people to read this book because I don't see enough love for it on Reddit. I finished it the other month and have been obsessed with it. I think it is an example of what good science fiction is: it can be read as a fantastical story for escapism, an allegory for various parts of our world, an exploration of the complexities that exist within people, or as a reflection on how technology and powers at be can exploit humans.

I won't say any much about the plot because I wouldn't be able to do it justice without spoilers, but I will say it is beautifully written (poetic and lyrical) with different parts written in different styles.

If you have read it I would love to know your thoughts. Or, if you do decide to pick it up let me know if you enjoyed it.

Short synopsis:
Ever 12 years a cargo captain, Nia, visits a farming world to collect a harvest for people living in space stations and on other planets. While she only ages a few months others age years due to time dilation. On one harvest pickup a mysterious mute boy who had crash-landed is taken in by her and her crew. A wealthy and powerful executive offers her a job, take the boy to the far reaches of human settlement until a certain day comes.

This book is an exploration of found family, corporate greed, loss, and how the choices we make to keep people in our lives matter.


r/scifi • • 8h ago

Recommendations Looking for space opera duologies

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I'm gonna go on two 8h train rides soon and I'd love to have a book for each that have one mostly continous story. So no 1k years skips between them.

I'm mostly into space operas with multiple story threads happening at the same time in lots of different places.

I have read and enjoyed Commonwealth Saga, Hyperion/Endymion and Three Body Problem.

I have also read Void and Fallers but I really disliked the YA fantasy stuff.

Thanks


r/scifi • • 10h ago

Recommendations Any similar movies or books?

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I absolutely loved this movie. I'm a big fan of stories with AI trying to ''improve'' humanity with cold and ruthless methods, as they aren't inhibited by the same morals and understanding humans have. AI logic turning evil is an interesting concept to me

Are there any movies, tv shows or books you'd recommend with this premise?


r/scifi • • 16h ago

Films What's your all time favorite book/movie two-piece combo?

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As a fan of both the book and the movie, I like to imagine the two of them being two accounts/records of the same events. The movie being the exact events as they played out and the book being the main character's recollection/perspective of the events. Any discrepancies between the two can in this way be chalked up to either lapses in the main characters memory, deliberate omissions, or a matter of that which she considered important enough to document vs that which she did not.

I urge anyone even remotely curious about this movie who has not seen it to watch it if for nothing else for the last act. There are few if any movies I've ever seen that deliver a more visceral audio-visual experience than the final act of Annihilation. It is the most hauntingly beautiful conclusion to a movie I've ever witnessed in my life.


r/scifi • • 11h ago

Recommendations Shadow of the Torturer — Gene Wolfe

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I’m about to dive in to the Book of the New Sunn for the first time. I’ve been hesitant to tackle this one as I understand it is layered and complex.

What advice do you have for me as a first time reader? At this point, I intend to read it more than once. However, if I only do read it through one time, what should I pay attention to?

EDIT: Thanks for all of this. I’m excited to start, and I won’t worry too much when I get confused. It’s honestly the kind of thing I was looking for at this moment in my reading.