r/kelowna • • 13h ago

Why I've made such a big deal about the Eldorado boardwalk

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Hey everyone,

A few people have asked me why I've spent so much time focused on the Eldorado boardwalk dispute, given that the city has many other important issues to address. That's an entirely fair question, so I thought I'd clarify.

First off, there are definitely many important issues and this one is not my main focus. I'm also digging a lot into homelessness, crime, transit, and other topics. But the reason it may seem like a disproportionate focus on a small issue is that it's part of a larger question on my mind: what happens when private and public interests collide, and to what extent will the city stand up for the public?

For background, Argus Properties owns the Eldorado Hotel and Manteo Resort, and unilaterally installed locked gates on the boardwalk in front of their properties back in 2020. There is a public access agreement along the front of their property (I'll get to that), and at the time, the City told them to remove the gates and went so far as to cut the locks. But the gates remained and the locks were replaced, with Argus citing public health and safety concerns. This issue went to provincial court, then appealed, and both times the public access agreement was upheld. But instead of removing the gates, Argus kept them closed, then citing necessary repair work while also preventing workers access to do the repairs. They appear to want to essentially negotiate a new public access agreement before reopening, though it's unclear. Most recently, the City moved to expropriate a strip of land in front of The Eldorado, so the issue is once again in court.

That all said, in my digging I've found that the boardwalk actually appears to be entirely outside The Eldorado's property line, while the gates on the Manteo section are on an officially designated City "road". Further, the public access agreement upheld in court, which has been presumed to overlap the boardwalk, actually covers the adjacent land beneath their patio. So one of my biggest questions has been: why is this being treated as a complex legal battle when the reality of the case, to the best of my understanding, seems clear and simple? If a citizen were to install gates on the boardwalk in City Park, would it be treated differently?

To their credit, the City has been taking action over the years, but it hasn't exactly felt urgent. The Mayor mentioned in my interview that he has taken aggressive action by moving to expropriate land, but I'd note that it was Argus who called for an urgent meeting to settle the matter just 4 days after my first Instagram reel about the boardwalk went viral in June. Coincidence, perhaps.

There may be technical nuances that I haven't been able to uncover yet, but in talking to the city manager, the mayor, and other citizens and City staff, I've yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for why the gates can't simply be removed. The City has talked about wanting a long-term solution, but that seems separate from enforcing basic public access rights.

Meanwhile, the City has openly discussed wanting to negotiate a mutually agreeable solution. But it begs the question: what is Argus asking for, what negotiating leverage do they even have, and why are they being given such consideration?

Their specific demands were redacted from my FOI request, and given the new expropriation battle, the Mayor says he can't comment. But some demands that have turned up in other sources include reimbursement for past property tax, not allowing dogs or roller skates on the boardwalk, and the authority to limit open hours and close for special events. My best guess, given only the information at hand, is that The Eldorado would like to continue using the boardwalk as their patio indefinitely, and therefore wants formal control over public use. That's an understandable desire, but it doesn't make public space private simply because they'd like it to be.

One last note is that I've heard at least some gates have been unlocked and City workers have been allowed to begin repairs, though this hasn't been reported in any media, nor did the Mayor bring it up in my interview as a sign of success. So it would seem Argus' prior conversation with the Mayor resulted in some sort of progress, but I'll be very interested to find out what that progress looks like, and if the City has given Argus anything it doesn't actually need to. I think whatever agreements are made should be very transparent, and given the 6 years of hassle, should absolutely favor the public. If I'm right that The Eldorado wants a long-term patio on the public boardwalk, the public should receive something equally meaningful in return. It's no small privilege for a hotel to operate the only boardwalk patio in the city, and it shouldn't be granted quietly or freely.

So overall, I'm trying to understand if this is truly as complicated as it seems, or if the City may be giving special privilege to certain people. And while I do not mean this as an accusation of any wrongdoing, communication with the City and mayor has so far done nothing to ease my skepticism toward how this is being handled. It's no secret that social ties exist between City staff and the likes of Argus Properties, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. But in my interview with the mayor, he made his position quite clear: he views Argus as an upstanding pillar of the community, citing their extensive property assets, and does not want to "disrespect" them. Neither do I. But I have to wonder if the City is truly helpless against the legal complications, or if they're navigating a course that's unnecessarily favorable to Argus.

What I'm simply seeking is clarity on whether anyone in the City gets special treatment from government because of wealth, influence, or informal social connections. I think this is much more important than one little stretch of boardwalk, because if we can't be 100% certain that the City will do what it must to defend public interest on such a highly visible and seemingly simple issue, how can we trust them in the many other high stakes deals we hear nothing about?


r/kelowna • • 11h ago

News BCNDP takes aim at Kelowna Conservative candidate over her social media posts

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r/kelowna • • 11h ago

'Soul destroying' effort to find vanished son

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r/kelowna • • 13h ago

Noontime Accident Springfield and Cooper

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r/kelowna • • 18h ago

With 2/5 advance poll days completed, the running total is nearly 70 per cent of what was cast during the 2022 election (where voter turnout was only 30%)

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Source: https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/634273/Strong-voter-turnout-on-second-day-of-advance-polls-in-Kelowna#634273

According to the City of Kelowna, 4,167 people voted on Saturday, Oct. 10. That was an increase from the first day of advance polls on Wednesday, Oct. 7, when 2,712 ballots were cast.

There are three more chances to vote in Kelowna ahead of general election day:

Wednesday, Oct. 14

  • Parkinson Recreation Centre, 1800 Parkinson Way
  • Black Box Theatre, 1375 Water Street
  • Okanagan College, S Building Lower Lounge, 1000 KLO Rd (open until 6 p.m.)
  • University of British Columbia Okanagan, University Centre 200 Ballroom, 3272 University Way (open until 6 p.m.)

Thursday, Oct. 15

  • Parkinson Recreation Centre, 1800 Parkinson Way

Friday, Oct. 16

  • Parkinson Recreation Centre, 1800 Parkinson Way
  • MNP Place, 4105 Gordon Dr

r/kelowna • • 16h ago

These electricity rates (FortisBC) are killing me. What's your hot water tank temp set to?

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I've been doing everything I can to reduce my electricity usage, and one suggestion I keep coming upon is setting my hot water tank from 140F to 120F, but with the caveat of the possibility of legionella if set to 120F.

My question is, is Kelowna's water system safer when it comes to this? And has anyone made that adjustment, and what difference did it make on your electric bill?


r/kelowna • • 12h ago

Would you live along Enterprise Way?

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Anybody who’s lived in an apartment along Enterprise Way specifically the one beside Hyatt? Any pros and cons?


r/kelowna • • 12h ago

I'm Daniel Fritter, a candidate for Kelowna city council, AMA! (officially starting at 10 am tomorrow, October 15)

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Hi there, I'm Daniel Fritter, a candidate for our city council.

I'm here to answer questions about the upcoming election, municipal issues, my background, and what matters to our community.

I'll officially answer questions from 10 AM to about 10 pm tomorrow, but if you're curious now, I'll try to reply.

Ask me anything!


r/kelowna • • 7h ago

Film club ?

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Hi everyone, I’m a 40 year old who recently moved to Kelowna and was wondering if there are any film clubs here ? I had a good group of friends who I went to the movies with in Vancouver and it was so much fun. Looking for something like that here or am happy to start one. All ages welcome :)


r/kelowna • • 18h ago

Local Resources Any locally owned computer repair shops you’d recommend?

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I’m hoping to just make some repairs to my laptop instead of replacing it, and I’d prefer to go to a locally owned shop over a big retail chain. Who do you trust to work on your computer?


r/kelowna • • 2h ago

Halloween fun

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Hey Reddit! (25F) Im planning on being in Kelowna for Halloween this year and would love to hear from some locals about the best places to hangout! Me and my cousin are looking for the best bars/ parties to go to on Halloween, thanks in advance😊!