r/Steam • u/Haunter777x • 13h ago

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How out of touch can you be as a company, this is embarrassing

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u/GetBack-HonkyCat 13h ago

I really dislike that i have to launch Rocket League with Epic

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u/ReaDiMarco 51 13h ago

Is this true for Rocket League bought on Steam too? (I haven't played it for ages so I have no clue)

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u/diego97yey 13h ago

No I don't think so.

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u/ReaDiMarco 51 13h ago

Cool ty

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u/duramu_ 11h ago

it's true for now... they are working on a UE6 version of the game and I'd bet all the money that steam version will be killed

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u/ReaDiMarco 51 11h ago

Might be left offline with bots?

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u/That_Service7348 13h ago

No, if you have it on Steam it still works. But anyone that didn't get it on steam has to do it through Epic. Same thing happened with Fall Guys, Epic slurped it up after it turned out to be wildly popular and now it's no longer available on Steam but I can still download and launch it through Steam since I bought it there.

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u/Nervous-Cake2747 12h ago

I wish. Fall Guys on steam still launches through Epic

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u/greentarget33 8h ago

you forgot they tanked the popularity of both games and now its populated mostly with obsessed sweats

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u/SmokeyByTheWayyyy 12h ago

I can confirm if you have RL on Steam you get to avoid the epic launcher all together. Source: I’ve played the game since 2016 and have installed it on both Steam and epic and thankfully I get to keep using Steam’s version, which is way better since I also have built in workshop support 😎.

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u/midlandshockeyguy 10h ago

My only issue is I got chat banned 8 years ago (adult with a job in a better place now) and you can't use a different steam account to play ranked

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u/Eclipse_ID 8h ago

Actually, I recently got my friend to family share on steam with me so I could play rocket league without Epic. You can get around the ranked restriction by toggling on multiple selections, choosing a playlist, backing out to the prior screen, and pressing quick play

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u/Satans_Oregano 10h ago

I have it on steam! One of the downsides is you get flash banged with a white screen when the game is loading. Very annoying.

Game definitely has gone corporate. I just want to do quick play and run a couple matches. I ignore any and all loot boxes and seasonal shenanigans. IDGAF if my goal explosions are rick and Morty or whatever.

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u/Ironborn137 9h ago

I do not have this issue.

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u/SmokeyByTheWayyyy 4h ago

Yeah I don’t have the flashbang issue, this very well could be to do with your graphics drivers or something. It might be worth googling/doing a fresh Graphics drivers install using DDU. It’s kind of a funny issue to have tho lmao.

I think what you mean by “corporate” is more about it being a F2P model now. Which is designed to drive engagement through the things you mentioned (events, loot boxes, lots of bundles to spend money on, etc.) which, I could take it or leave it, to me it’s like a fun little collectathon every now and again when I hop on.

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u/GetBack-HonkyCat 13h ago

I don't think so, I was too late to buy it on Steam :///

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u/yuvi3000 13h ago

I would still buy it on Steam but they don't wanna let us :(

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u/GetBack-HonkyCat 13h ago

My exact thoughts, that game is the only reason I have Epic at all

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u/Hellknightx 11h ago

Honestly, fuck Epic for being petty bitches about it and delisting it from Steam after they bought it.

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u/JakeyJake3 12h ago

If you have money to burn, you can always buy a key. I bought myself a key for Fall Guys for my birthday. I hate that I enjoy Fall Guys...but I figured since I play it on occasion with my friends, I might as well get a key for the Steam achievements and ability to stream it over steam link. My computer lives in another room from where I game in my house, and remote play with epic games has always been a pain

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u/bloodbat007 10h ago

You really can't though. I've looked. They actually don't exist. Even the ones you see for 500 dollars are sold out when you click on them.

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u/ReaDiMarco 51 13h ago

Ah, sed

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u/Crimsonclaw111 13h ago

Not at all

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u/Moose_Nuts 13h ago

Definitively, no...I just played yesterday and it neither needs to be launched through EGS nor does it require EGS to be installed.

It DOES use Epic Online Services, however. It's just how their matchmaking works in the background.

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u/SmackmYackm 13h ago

You can use the Xbox launcher. Not sure if that's better.

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u/Hanna_Bjorn 13h ago edited 12h ago

I didn't quit Rocket League for a couple of years since it was available on Steam still, but Epic just kept killing every good thing about the game so I finally uninstalled after 6k hours and never looked back. It was like 2-3 years ago I think.

It's almost impressive how bad Epic Games is at...games.

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u/Plus-Yogurtcloset-85 12h ago

I quit rocket league because I bought a new Mac Studio for music production and then a week later epic killed Mac support because Apple won’t let them break their decades long App Store standards.

Like they could change one line of code pretty much and I could play the game. I’d probably buy the battle pass too. But epic is actually the most horseshit dumb fuck company in the gaming space.

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u/CautiousDonut2681 10h ago

hen a week later epic killed Mac support because Apple won’t let them break their decades long App Store standards.

These standards were found to be illegal, and what Epic did is now standard on mobile games. I was just looking at the pokemon go store for instance, an it openly links to the web store and shows you can pay less for the same stuff when Apple isn't taking 30%.

There are plenty of good reasons to hate Epic, but giving game developers 30% more revenue is sure as shit not one of them.

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u/CaptainAwesome8 9h ago

Steam also takes that same cut. Sure, they successfully argued Apple was too restrictive, but it’s been an extremely standard practice as cost for hosting the infrastructure. Epic trying to bypass the App Store was certainly not to do anything for independent devs lmao, it was their own greed for a full cut of fortnite skins.

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u/Herkules97 3h ago

Haven't you needed the app store to install apps on iPhones? At least in a normal manner. Maybe there were some shittier ways of doing it before.

If you can install from other places, the "hosting infrastructure" point falls apart. But Apple clearly doesn't want other places. Online it reads like you could do stuff on other stores since 2024 but IIRC they still wanted a cut from those stores. So they want a cut for something that they don't even host.

It only applies to the EU and it reads like this is still the current status https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/08/apple-announces-changes-for-apps-in-the-european-union/ though with less moronic rules but still moronic.

Devs don't NEED Steam to host anything. It is effectively a monopoly due to userbase, but not forcing it. It is disingenuous to compare. Steam also doesn't charge you for hosting your games on Uplay, EA Origin or EGS.

The only defence Apple could have is that it's still on iOS which they have to maintain. If it was oh so hard to maintain the OS, they could offer alternative operating systems and then everything falls apart(But I doubt they'd make alternative OSs allowed to work as expected as they could implement all sorts of issues via the hardware just like they already seem to do for repairs.). Plus their hardware is required for iOS and you fucking buy that(wtf does that pay for besides the OS and the cost of the hardware itself?). Apple can't have anything else besides that they want parasite fees just cause they can.

If anything Valve has more of a defense for the "We maintain the OS", as you can install SteamOS on other hardware. But the OS is also something they started. So it would look like they made the OS so that they can have parasite fees.

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u/CautiousDonut2681 2h ago

it’s been an extremely standard practice as cost for hosting the infrastructure

It's unambiguous that hosting and infrastructure costs are tiny fraction of 30%, even for MUCH smaller stores than Steam. Many single games run their own stores because they can save such an enormous amount of money. 30% came from physical distribution, and was never justified for digital distribution. We've just never had competitive digital markets to bring that down.

Epic trying to bypass the App Store was certainly not to do anything for independent devs lmao, it was their own greed for a full cut of fortnite skins.

Not really, but sorta. Unlike Steam who caters to consumers and screws over devs, Epic is the reverse. Their main customer for most of their history has been devs using Unreal Engine. Now even in Fortnite, they're trying to mostly pay devs to make content inside the game. It's hard to be a profitable business supporting developers when Steam (and Apple) are rent-seeking to such an extraordinary degree.

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u/MathsNerd1996 12h ago

Oh I'm feeling really special that my Rocket League is on steam lol

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u/Nik863 13h ago

Woaah not mee, i've bought it on steam in 2017 god blessss

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u/KlebMoment 13h ago

Doesn't Heroic work with Rocket League? Fortnite works just fine.

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u/GetBack-HonkyCat 12h ago

Ngl, never heard of Heroic lol, I have some research to do

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u/uSaltySniitch 12h ago

Got the Steam version in my account personally

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u/TheFlamingLemon 12h ago

I don’t but I’m worried that I will once UE6 happens

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u/LiamJamIsMyNeesons 12h ago

I just stopped playing when they took over

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u/HalcyonRedo 11h ago

Heroic Launcher will rock your world, give it a try.

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u/Aerographic 10h ago

Rocket League and UE. Only reasons that garbage-ass client sits on my machine.

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u/jake04-20 9h ago

I bought RL on launch so I have it in Steam still 😎