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u/Worth-Reputation3450 11d ago
I've had the D+ for a few years for my daughter and then realized that all we watched was just a handful of movies on repeat (Frozen, Toystory, etc). So I cancelled it and just bought the movies.
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u/DesolateRuin 11d ago
Why make customer pay one time when u can make customer pay MANY time!?
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u/Loose_Assignment_Map 10d ago
Have Disney month once a year. Their content doesn’t change enough to require paying for more than a month each year
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u/izz-zz 11d ago
And Disney have already done this in Australia and New Zealand and not enough people even noticed. The end game is obvious.
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u/BlargerJarger 11d ago
I fucking noticed. Furious with Disney over my incomplete disc collection after they bought 50% or more of the world’s movies.
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u/luisstrikesout 11d ago
Same. We go to Goodwill or go on eBay and get the movie for $1-$3. Take it anywhere too with a portable DVD player, no WiFi needed.
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u/Miserable_Pride_5693 11d ago
This is what I’ve been doing work video games for a few years now. I used to have Xbox Gamepass ultimate. They kept jacking up the price. I realized if I buy the 2-3 games I play a year it’s cheaper than paying for ultimate for a year
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u/blueberrycauzez 11d ago
This was always the plan - operate at a loss to attract lots of subscribers, then jack up prices. You'll still have more subscribers than if you started at a rational price.
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u/rememberpianocat 11d ago
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u/sejoki_ 11d ago
I know torrent is an established name and has been for the past 25 years, but in light of recent events, we should really call it "torown".
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u/icer07 11d ago
How does one do this nowadays. Been out of the game so long I'm not sure how to get back into it
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u/AwesomeWhiteDude 10d ago
The *arr stack
Sonarr and Radarr for managing TV and Movies, Prowlarr for searching scores of sites. Then Plex or Jellyfin to play everything.
Not the only way to do things either, probably not even the easiest tbh
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u/bobcatgoldthwait 10d ago
I'd also recommend Overseerr. You can open that up on your phone, browse movies/TV shows, request them from the app and they'll get added to your sonarr/radarr which will then go out and find them.
It can be a bit time consuming to set up but it's not that hard. There are plenty of guides out there, or just do what I did and ask ChatGPT to walk you through it.
Oh yeah, don't forget to get a VPN.
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u/Bad-Genie 11d ago
I wouldn't even have Disney if I didn't have kids. It's too convenient for my 3 year old to use it. Way to difficult to teach them how to sail the high seas.
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u/monolithresonance 11d ago
Time to set sail on the high seas again
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u/FairTwirl 11d ago
They really convinced everyone to cut the cable just to recreate cable with 15 different subscriptions.
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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 11d ago
back when cable was king, everyone complained you had to subscribe to everything, you couldn't pick and choose.
Now you can pick and choose.
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u/redrumyliad 11d ago
Never stopped.
You can get a full on automated pirate set up in a few hours.
Or just find streams.
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u/FakeTails 11d ago
Dm me your setup I need to learn lol
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u/Toxic_Lithium 11d ago
Stremio+Torbox is all you need. It’s 2026. Get with times lol.
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u/FakeTails 11d ago
How well does this setup jive with small children who want their liquid entertainment?
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u/zmbjebus 11d ago
I don't suggest children drink alcohol, but I won't judge too harshly. Parenting is hard, I get it.
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u/perton 11d ago
What are you talking about? They’re way more fun after they’ve shotgunned a few beers!
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u/zmbjebus 11d ago
Shotgunning children is another thing I don't condone.
Although if you mean giving a child a shotgun to shoot I could see how that is highly entertaining.
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u/RewindRobin 11d ago
Haven't tried it but there is Nuvio which does the same as Stremio but I know it has the option to have multiple profiles.
This is also holding me back from full piracy since I don't want my kid to have full access to what everyone can watch
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u/Silencer-1995 11d ago
I'm sure torrents are much safer than they were in the 2000s.
Back then you downloaded a movie and then rolled the dice on whether it was the movie or illegal porn.
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u/RewindRobin 11d ago
The torrents are safe but my kid is at the age where he can't know that EVERYTHING is available on the internet. He's better off watching Bluey on his kid account
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u/Able_Jackfruit_637 11d ago
Yeah dont let them on YouTube. They grow up thinking they know everything 😂
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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 11d ago
My kids gravitate toward the dumbest slop on youtube, its maddening and now banned. In this house we watch 90's kids movies.
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u/___po____ 11d ago
I like to keep finding streams, even if it can be annoying at times from all the shutdowns and such. I still get full HD videos on nearly everything and very little to no buffering.
However... Obscure, less popular shows can be a mf. Streaming 4 seasons of Felicity took three different servers on three different streaming sites, lol. And was all 480p and less, lol.
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u/SareBear0412 11d ago
Instead of continuing to use all these streaming sites it was more economical for my husband to build a home theater PC, even with the insane hardware prices, and use that to use streaming sites (the piracy sub has some good ones) to watch things. Netflix, HBO, Disney, AppleTV+, Prime Video (which we get with Prime but still) all added up to a fairly considerable amount per month by themselves. Then add in sports shit for him like F1, Football, Hockey, Basketball and other things for our kids and myself. It was just better to build something like this and go right back to sailing under the Jolly Roger.
They won. People were happy to pay for streaming and piracy was going down. It'll never disappear but it was going down. Then they got greedy, like they always do, and here we are. It was ads, then different tiers with ads, then ads put into the more premium tiers, then more premium tiers without ads for more money and on and on. I'm sick of it.
Am I entitled to their content? No. But if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing. They can all go fuck themselves.
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u/SaltyGirlly 11d ago
They lured us with $7 nostalgia and now charge cable Tv prices go rewatch The Mandalorian
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u/Emotional_Citron_964 11d ago
Streaming services really managed to recreate cable TV's worst features in record time.
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u/superhappyfunball13 11d ago
Disney is arguably one of the greediest and shittiest corporations on earth—this shouldn't be a surprise.
They made their billions charging families thousands of dollars to visit their theme parks. They sell $50 t-shirts and mouse ears made by Honduran child labor for pennies.
If anyone deserves to have their shit pirated, it's disney
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u/HEX_BootyBootyBooty 11d ago
Don't forget the Disney Internship program! They'll use the federal government for tax breaks, under the belief Disney would be training and educating foreign workers, instead they make them sell peanuts from a cart.
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u/Nobunagas-Ambition 11d ago
Disney+ was the easiest streaming service to drop, there was never much to watch on it and the big shows were easy to torrent, much like apple TV.
We have Netflix, Prime from my sister-in-law, and a Crave (HBO in Canada) that three of my family share.
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u/therealtrojanrabbit 11d ago
Yep. They even bought the Star Wars IP to churn out absolute garbage.
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u/sdomtidderkcuf1 11d ago
Good thing I canceled my Disney+ account and stream their content for free.
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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 11d ago
Their parks are mobbed. I honestly don't blame companies for charging prices people will pay for luxuries.
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u/_JustThisOne_ 11d ago
Yeah Disney does some shifty shit, but the theme parks? Idk man, if people want to pay thousands of dollars to wait in hours of lines for realistically like 10 rides in a day, I guess that says more about the consumer. Nostalgia is a hell of a marketing tactic.
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u/Marsuello 11d ago
You’d be surprised how efficient some people can be with that. I have a friend who’s a “Disney adult” and any time I’ve gone to the park with him we get through about every ride we want while also hitting shops and food. We get there at opening and from there it’s just a follow the leader because he goes so much he knows how to game the crowds to maximize what we do
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u/Itchy-Ad1047 11d ago
That part from above dude is so reddit. A company capitalizes after establishing a very in demand product and with continued ongoing demand. Bust out the pitchforks ig
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u/Pleasant-Seat9884 11d ago
I’m happy to pirate both Disney.. but more Paramount as well. Fuck that company as well!
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u/Grand_Assistance_427 11d ago
Con comerciales, señor calamardo, con comerciales.
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u/GrunDMC74 11d ago
So, I’m old enough to remember CDs and how it got to the point where I’d spent so long paying $20 for a CD with 2 good songs that when Napster came about I had no reservations about using it to steal music because I felt like the industry had been stealing from me.
This is where I’m at with streaming. At first it was a reasonable price, no commercials. Now we get this bullshit and commercials again. I’ll just pay for regular tv thank you.
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u/faceless_coloradian 11d ago edited 10d ago
Gotta start sailing the seven seas if you know what I mean
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u/jake93s 10d ago
I'm getting there also with music streaming. Spotify has put up the price 2 times in the last 12 months and closed the loopholes around buying gift cards overseas and activiting it using a VPN.
I stopped buying Netflix, hbo and Apple last year. Now gone back to pirating. The main thing I was surprised about was how much more convient pirating is. No longer jumping between apps, everything is in one. The paid experience should never be worse than free.
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u/Nakata1111 11d ago
There is a subreddit about piracy, it teaches you essential life skills so you can entertain yourself without getting your bank account sucked dry by 5 different streaming services.
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u/crumble-bee 11d ago
https://reddit.com/link/pdouhhl/video/kh2uj8yfmbth1/player
People always recommend plex on here but Stremio is easily the best app I’ve ever downloaded.
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u/Hefty_Map3665 11d ago
Plex is the best. I have been running my own server from a 2016 old laptop lol for the last 7 years.
I put all my pirated content on the laptop and host it through the server so I can stream all my movies and tv shows from any smart TV, gaming console, computer or phone. Cost me $0 over 7 years.
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u/thrownawaz092 11d ago
And this works because some people will just keep paying
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u/LMGDiVa 11d ago
Stop Buying shit.
Holy fuck.
Why is that so hard to understand, if this system is broken STOP PAYING INTO IT.
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u/Crovaz 11d ago
They're hopelessly addicted.
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u/diarrheawallpaint 11d ago
I'm shocked Disney streaming has a big enough market, The last thing I heard anyone mention from Disney was the mandalorian, but I don't have kids so maybe it's all the kids shows
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u/Otterfan 11d ago
Capeshit used to be huge. I don't think anyone cares anymore, but lots of people are legacy Disney+ subscribers for that.
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u/chubky 11d ago
We’ve gone full circle and soon will go back to cable tv instead of streaming
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u/Taylor5621 11d ago
In Buffalo I watched a politician’s commercial to fight to lower utility bills, which is cool, but his argument was you shouldn’t have to get a 2nd or 3rd job to offend them.
The problem is, it’s not just utility’s… it’s gas, cable, internet, apps, food, rent, car payment, everything is outrageously overpriced. And it keeps going up!
THEY DONT GIVE A F*CK ABOUT US
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u/chotomatekudersai 11d ago
You wanna know what the kicker is… they don’t gouge as much in Europe. Look at the cost of what they charge Americans and then do a deep dive on what they’ve done in Hungary.
They’re not the only ones doing it. I got YouTube premium when I lived in Japan. My sub didn’t go up at all for years. I was paying 8-9 dollars depending on the strength of the yen. The card went expired and when I tried to resub I think it was 16 bucks. I had my Hungarian friend check and it was 9 USD. And that’s with a 27% VAT.
These companies know exactly what they’re doing.
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u/throwaday24 11d ago
Thats right, disney does not give a fuck about you. It should probably be more expensive becauae there's enough Disney fans that will put up with it. It's fair to be angry at the cost of utilities, rent, food, gas but if a streaming service starts price gouging you can either cancel your subscription or pay for it and the conversation should end there
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u/Basic_whiteBBQ 11d ago
Thanks for reminding me i need to cancel. Ads on ad free premium plans, im done.
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u/Theboiii24 11d ago
Just stop buying the service eventually if a lot of people do it then they might decrease the price ? If they don’t then do you truly want that service ?
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u/LK48s 11d ago edited 11d ago
No no no, their monkeys brain will be like:
>>Oh shit our subscription number are plummeting, what should we do???
>> we still have some left, they must be very loyal, try increasing the price to extract more from them and make it harder for them to cancel
>> but people gona get mad at us?
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u/Zookeepergame_Sorry 11d ago
This tactic has been working for Netflix. I left, but I still see people on this app saying “I watch it all the time so it’s worth it for me”
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u/PezzaAU 11d ago
Thats the thing. If they are watching it a lot, its worth it. Buying a movie or renting 4 or 5 movies can cost 1 month subscription of netflix. Not everyone wants to set sail.
I dont agree with the price hikes, but people have their own spending limits.
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u/bigwetducky 11d ago
if enough people cancel -> the price will go down
its our fault lol
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u/yogiyogiyogi69 11d ago
Unfortunately it feels like it's every corporation in the world, not just Disney price gouging our asses. Over seriously been basically priced out of most grocery stores I can only afford Aldi now. Ground beef is double the price at any other grocery store it's criminal
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u/jaymole 11d ago
Ima have to check what I pay. If it’s actually 21.49 I’m cancelling that shit today
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u/-The_Goober 10d ago
Disney+ & Hulu Duo Basic (With Ads): $12.99 / month
$6.50 a month is cheaper than what this chart says it cost before they got “greedy”
So my price has actually decreased.
Sorry to interrupt your dopamine and cortisol binge.
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u/Groudover 11d ago
Just a reminder that Facebook staff torrented nearly 82TB of pirated books for AI training. The wealthiest and most powerful people in the country do it and they want you to feel like a thief if you do it too.
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u/jimdesroches 11d ago
They’re just gonna combine everything and come full circle again. We’ll call it “cable”
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u/Superb-Purpose9783 10d ago
I canceled in 2021 when they did that price hike with Ad option.
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u/GandalfSwagOff 11d ago
People still pay for it so like...why not? Until poor people start caring about their money of course mega-billion dollar corporations will keep raising prices.
It is like me charging people to use the bathroom in Roller Coaster Tycoon 2. I'll keep jacking that price up until people stop shitting.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 11d ago
Fun fact, if it’s raining in Roller Coaster Tycoon 2, guests will buy umbrellas no matter what, so if you have the price maxed out when it begins to rain, they will always pay it
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u/Bramtinian 11d ago
I felt this…I was a good owner until It got tough and I started charging $1 for each bathroom use lol
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u/BartyB 11d ago
It’s gone full circle. Everyone loved streaming because it was an alternative to what was the ridiculous cable bills. Netflix was a fair price and had a decent selection. Then some alternatives rolled out. All was still good, because at least the couple you paid for still was a good portion cheaper than the cable bill.
But now that basically every network has their own damn streaming platform. And they all keep raising prices. It’s gotten worse than having OG cable. Then they wonder why piracy is having a big come back like it’s 2005
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u/420faucet 11d ago
I signed up with an annual subscription right when it launched. It was like $60-$80 iirc? They were like pay this price forever if you sign up right on day 1! And then they changed it to like $160 the first time they bumped the price up so I cancelled and never went back
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u/Miss_L_Worldwide 11d ago
Hah, I remember that. And if you forgot to cancel before it renewed you still had to pay for the whole next year.
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u/AmityMayorVaughn 11d ago
I think i am over a 200% increase in my piracy so it's balancing out.
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u/MiserableFloor9906 11d ago
I cancelled Disney months ago because they absolutely fail to put out new content and just expect you to enjoy their library. Honestly I want to see everything Disney collapse, the parks and ownership of Marvel IP are top of my contempt.
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u/jrjreeves 11d ago
On one hand the product has expanded massively, so an increase is justified in that regard but not by that much.
Also, consider just how much money Disney has, for a company that is supposed to be all about families, they obviously don't care and raise the prices when they don't need it.
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u/Z0idberg_MD 11d ago
I just hate why people need to manipulate the discussion. The base tier is 12.99 in the subscription this post is mentioning includes Hulu and ESPN plus. It’s literally three separate streaming service services from 2019 now included in one price.
Is it worth it? Is it overpriced? That’s a completely different question but it’s not a fair comparison.
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u/2WheelSuperiority 11d ago
Steal content. Pirate. Whatever you want to call it. Don't pay for it.
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u/jguizar1 11d ago
And they keep getting away with it because people will just pay. For me money is not an issue with the subscriptions, but not worth it at all for what they charge now.
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u/ProjectNo4090 11d ago
With a 0% increase in value. They arent offering any new benefits or increase in bit rate or quality. "Pay more for the same shit and like it." is Dinsey's and most streaming services policies.
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u/FluxChiller 11d ago
Support bit torrent, support public trackers, share and seed.
Learn, we need more of the new generation learning these things.
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u/Western-Mall5505 11d ago
This is why I only have one service switched on at a time and will mostly likely not get into any new shows once they stop monthly subscriptions.
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u/MustEnterAUsername 11d ago
"streaming was a mistake" lol yeah and you only realized this 20 years too late.
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u/l-1-l-1-l 11d ago
If you’re in the United States, many local public libraries have streaming movies and shows for free. In my area, for instance, I have both Hoopla and Kanopy for free, and haven’t had to pay for a movie in a long time. And if you can’t find the movie you want on one of those two streaming services, check with the library to see if they have the DVD.
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u/inknpaint 10d ago
The pre order pricing before they launched was $3/mo for 3 years paid up front if I remember correctly. My kids weren't watching it after that and there was just not enough new content to keep us in it.
Have not missed it.
I feel bad for people with kids that could enjoy some of their content together - with everyone being squeezed from every corner for every dollar, people might have to revert to checking out DVD's from the library until they make THAT illegal.
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u/JakeCheap 11d ago
Just cancelled my Disney/Hulu/HBO bundle this week. Be a shame if there’s other ways to watch shows for less.
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u/Software_Quiet 11d ago edited 11d ago
I pay $9/month on a special offer (which I get almost every time I cancel) for Hulu, HBO, Disney w/ads and will last for 6 months and then i’m sure it will go up and I’ll cancel again. But HBO alone growing up in the 90s was around $12 or $15 and Disney probably around $10. Generally my middle class family only enjoyed the free preview weekends. People saying this stuff don’t remember what premium cable and add-on prices were like decades ago…
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u/PhoenixApok 11d ago
Yeah. Im not saying these people don't have a point, but $22 for all of Hulu and Disney on demand is WAY better than the like $60 we paid in 2000 for dozens of channels we never watched, like 5 we did, and no on demand.
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u/ftfarshad 11d ago
The only Media that I subscribed to was my hometown public library and I would still keep doing so if they still charged me for it annually, but they stopped charging for it ages ago. It is a tragedy to see that people in North America foregone that treasure trove for something unimportant like these services.
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u/flopisit32 11d ago
Reddit refuses to ever understand economics.
Things cost what people are willing to pay for them. If nobody was buying their shit, they would be charging lower prices.
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u/gagnatron5000 11d ago
Why are people booing you? You're right.
Also, a classic business model lately has been to sell a product at an unbelievable value, almost losing money, then once you have dominant market share of the product you're selling, you raise the price as high as the market will possibly allow. It's how Amazon did it, it's how Netflix did it, it's how almost any tech startup does it, and it's we're currently seeing the price markup stage with AI companies.
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u/Sir_Badtard 11d ago
That was Ubers whole thing.
A taxi wants to charge you $25 for a ride?
We will do it for $6.
In places that taxis don't even really exist you'd be lucky to get an Uber anywhere for under $40 now.
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u/bugbearmagic 11d ago
Yeah people need to just have enough self control to speak with their wallets.
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u/Aiyakiu 11d ago
I canceled Netflix a while ago and now I'm about to cancel Disney Plus. I'm doing my part!
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u/Toad-in-a-hole 11d ago
You also are filling a reddit trope where reddit thinks things are either black or white.
It’s not as simple as “people are willing to pay it”.
How many people are willing to pay it is what a streaming service looks at. There’s different breakpoints at different prices where they can afford to lose subscribers and still be more profitable than a lower price with more subscribers.
So no, its not “people are willing to pay it” plenty of people aren’t. But just enough are they the streamer doesn’t need to appeal to those who wont pay the premium.
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u/Necro_OW 11d ago
Your comment doesn't contradict the OP at all. "People are willing to pay for it" does not mean ALL people are willing to pay for it.
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u/Itorr475 11d ago
No one understand the difference between demand and quantity demanded at different price points
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u/Mottled_Paws 11d ago
I have YTTV, mainy for live sports. But I sail the high seas for any movie or tv show
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u/bouncypinata 11d ago
This is the company that used to make their characters share the same community underpants before the union stepped in
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u/CardiologistCute7548 11d ago
It's was good at the beginning but somewhat the manage to fuck that up too
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u/MindIsWillin 11d ago
Gosh, it's almost as if corpos that find themselves in a monopoly or oligopoly position, when most of media consumption HAS to go through their services, tend to squeeze their loyal paypig- ahem, loyal customers is what I meant, of every cent they physically can.
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u/Ibushi-gun 11d ago
I thought I was only subscribed to one thing since July, but a few days ago my card was hit with a $140 charge because I guess I still had Paramount Plus, which I never used to begin with
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u/Ashamed_Echidna5748 11d ago
I'm very lucky I have the basic technical ability to set up a plex server and the $$ to buy a NAS before prices went through the roof. So glad i don't have to deal with this crap.
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u/JackSuede21 11d ago
Everybody wanted to cancel their evil cable company though? Streaming was going to be so much cheaper! Remember “cut the cord”? 😆
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u/word-word-numero 11d ago
Netflix streaming was a success. Everyone else thinking they were Netflix was not.
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u/Rude-Memory9521 11d ago
How was this not foreseen? This is a common trend with anything these days and the problem is we keep subscribing to this bs and accepting it like its normal. I dropped all subscriptions last year and never looked back.
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