r/PokemonHGSS • • 13h ago

Emulator Misunderstanding Catch Logic or Terrible RNG?

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I am playing HeartGold for the first time and encountered Raikou on Route 37. I am playing on an emulator and saved as soon as the encounter started (yes, I’m save scumming 😓). Up until this point, the way I understood catch rates is that it’s determined once the ball is thrown, 4 checks that you must hit which corresponds to each shake etc. I only have one ultra ball that I am continuously throwing and reloading to throw again. I must have done this close to - if not over - 100 times and have yet to get even a single shake.
I am aware that this a low catch rate, and that I’ve done nothing to increase my odds as he is at full health. But from what I am reading online, it is a 0.8% catch rate at full health with an ultra ball; not a single shake in 100 throws seems like a statistical improbability (or maybe I’m worse at math than I thought), so now I’m wondering if maybe the first throw was maybe already predetermined from before where I saved? This doesn’t make too much sense in my head and I’m sure I’m just getting terrible luck, but seeing the instant breakout 100 times in a row is now making me second guess my already limited pokemon knowledge, so now I’m here!

TL;DR - I’ve thrown ~ 100 ultra balls and haven’t seen a single shake, is this catches’ odds predetermined once the encounter starts or are the RNG gods laughing at me yet again?


r/PokemonHGSS • • 1h ago

Emulator Goldenrod city bugged, is my playthrough over?

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Playing on Retroarch iOS and playing Soul Silver for the first time! Been loving it but I’m at the point where I need to go back to Goldenrod city to investigate the Radio Tower. However, the entirety of Goldenrod city is broken. I can’t fly there as it gives me a pure white screen and any building I enter will not let me leave as the screen goes completely black. Wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this issue because I don’t want to lose all this progress. Thank you!


r/PokemonHGSS • • 11h ago

Discussion [Gen 4] Can't tell if these pokemon are real especially the shiny Shaymin.

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Bought a Japanese Heart Gold. Everything about it is authentic. 120+ hrs, he's traded and connected with other devices. He started 2009 but the pokemon in question are from 2007 I assume from D/P/Plat, some have the same name and some I think are from others. I'm skeptical about the shiny Shaymin tho. Rt 205 doesn't say hatched or from flower paradise. Does anyone have info about it, definitely traded. Seems like he tried to shiny hatch machop and eevee. No foreign ditto so he couldn't Masuda Method.


r/PokemonHGSS • • 17h ago

Emulator Please help me

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r/PokemonHGSS • • 14h ago

Discussion What game(s) HGSS are sequel to in your opinion?

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I know this is probably the least important question about these games, but I am curious.

Do you consider HGSS sequel of the remakes FireRed and LeafGreen since they came right before them? Or the original Red, Green and Blue, despite getting remake? Or is it Yellow, considering the composition of Red's team?

I personally am of the opinion that it's Yellow, because of Red's team having high levelled unevolved Pikachu and all Kanto starters. But Blue's team contradicting this, since he has all the Pokémon he used to replace starters in RB as well as FRLG, Arcanine, Gyarados and Exeggutor, plus Pidgeot and Rhydon. And Machamp for some reason, replacing his iconic Alakazam he still has in GSC. Blue's team in Yellow is different with only Exeggutor still being there. Still, since Blue often brags about how many Pokémon he caught through his journey, I consider his team less important than that of Red and therefore think HGSS are sequels to Yellow.

But I am curious about your opinion and thought process regarding this question.


r/PokemonHGSS • • 10h ago

Discussion Breaking the Binary (HGSS) - Noctowl

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Welcome to Breaking the Binary - HGSS editon, a sporadic series of posts all about physical, Special and mixed attackers in Pokémon Heart Gold & Soul Silver With competitive minmaxing dominating the conversation about Pokémon viability and the design philosophy behind movepools and stat spreads changing in newer gens, Pokémon are often rigidly divided by the fandom into the categories of "special attacker" or "physical attacker." But for the in-game story, you're not facing EV trained opponents (unless on some hacks) and thus you need or not to EV train to keep up, so mixed attacking sets don't have the opportunity cost they have in PvP. Going mixed still has anti-synergy with setup moves, but it still can give many Pokémon access to STAB moves with better base power, strong coverage moves with useful types, move tutor moves, egg moves and more useful niches. This series will be covering those applications. We won't talk about every Pokémon here, only ones that I believe legitimately benefit from going mixed, but those Pokémon are surprisingly large in number. Today we'll be talking about Noctowl. I'll be talking about in-game but feel free to discuss PvP or battle facilities as well.

Noctowl is such of a sad case, just like in Platinum. It's a normal/flying-type with pretty good 100/96 special bulk (100 Base HP, 96 Base Sp. Def), not-so-good 70 Base Speed and 50 Base Defense, and lopsided and unimpressive 76 Base Sp. Atk and 50 Base Attack. Notable special moves include Air Slash, Extrasensory, Psychic, Dream Eater, Hyper Beam, Silver Wind, Hidden Power, Shadow Ball and Heat Wave. Notable physical moves include Return/Frustation, Zen Headbutt, Aerial Ace, Sky Attack, Fly, Steel Wing, Pluck. Notable utility includes Reflect, Roost, Hypnosis, Magic Coat and Tailwind.

Noctowl seems weird, it doesn't hit hard, nor offer much in terms of utility beyond its good special bulk and Shadow Ball access. Hypnosis is cool, but seemingly inaccurate if I recall from its 60% accuracy. And the fact that it unable to learn Light Screen is just ridiculous.

Noctowl learns so few attacks that STAB Return is worth considering since it's an easy move to spam and its best Flying STAB is only 75 base power. Return is almost interchangeable with Air Slash for this reason. Remember, base power matters more than you think (Frustation if it has low friendship). Sky Attack is even stronger, but not quite useful due to taking 2 turns to execute just like Fly, and its mentioned 50 Base Attack, Aerial Ace and Pluck are just worse by their weak pase power (they have 60 base power by the way). Pay no attention to Hyper Beam and Giga Impact, as they leave Noctowl vunerable due to causing the Recharging status: 

0 Atk Noctowl Frustration vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Spinda: 96-114 (36.7 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Noctowl Sky Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Spinda: 132-156 (50.5 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 SpA Noctowl Hyper Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Spinda: 195-229 (74.7 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 SpA Noctowl Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Spinda: 97-115 (37.1 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

These are very neutral moves, and really so is non-STAB Psychic (& Extrasensory which is 10 less base power than Psychic), which the lack of STAB makes it to be pretty weak than those moves, Zen Headbutt is far weaker because Noctowl's terrible base attack, althrough Dream Eater is the strongest, but requires a sleeping target to be used, not so useful to my knowledge:

0 SpA Noctowl Dream Eater vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Spinda: 87-103 (33.3 - 39.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

This leaves Psychic-type moves mostly outclassed and its STABs mostly as interchangeable.

Thanks to its sleep immunity, Insomnia, and Shadow Ball, Noctowl can kill Ghost-types (which are Gastly, Haunter and Gengar in HGSS) pretty well, and even better as sleep is more common in HGSS than in Platinum. Reflect is good albeit a little less applicable than Light Screen. Hypnosis can still be worthwhile since it's sleep. Heat Wave flames Steel and Ice-types, but its locked in postgame move tutor. Ominous Wind and Silver Wind are pretty useful, but Noctowl may get lucky if it gets the 10% chance to boost its stats (Omnious Wind is a move tutor move).

Some of its other utility moves are Roost which restores Noctowl's HP while also removing its Flying-typing during that turn, Tailwind boosts the party speed, just doubling it, another move tutor move. Noctowl also gets Rain Dance and Sunny Day, but there's no much of a use on those. Magic Coat is used to bounce back certain status moves back at the attacker, yet another move tutor move.

Noctowl seems pretty solid against Morty's Gengar, specially when it has Insomnia, being immune to Hypnosis and Shadow Ball due to its Normal-typing, only being harmed by Sucker Punch which has 5 PP. Deplete its Sucker Punch's PP and Noctowl easily wins againt Morty's Gengar. Or you can have Foresight so Noctowl can Return on Gengar, pretty silly.

Noctowl in HGSS seems pretty different than in Platinum as there moves like Sleep Powder, Hypnosis and Sing being more common and ghosts being less common. And remember that choosing one STAB or the other is a great option for Noctowl, and based on your Noctowl's stats, Return may be the one.

Here's the egg moves it gets: Agility, Feint Attack, Feather Dance, Mirror Move, Night Shade, Sky Attack, Supersonic, Whirlwind and Wing Attack

Agility boosts Noctowl's speed by 2 stages, not quite much of a use. Pidgey line, Spearow line, Farfetch'd and Doduo line can pass this move

Murkrow passes Feint Attack

Feather Dance is excellent for lowering Attack by 2 stages, making easier for its teammates to setup. Pidgey line can pass this move

Mirror Move is really a funny move, it just makes Noctowl use the target's move into it. Pidgey line and Spearow line can pass this move

Night Shade is a alright move that deals damage equal to Noctowl's level. Natu line and Murkrow can pass this move

Despite learning Sky Attack by leveling up, it can also have it as a egg move from another Noctowl (or breeding with a Ditto if it's female)

Supersonic is just terrible 55% accuracy move that confuses. Zubat line can pass this move

Whirlwind forces the opponent's pokemon to switch, works well with entry hazards like Stealth Rock, Spikes and Toxic Spikes. Pidgey line can pass this move

Pidgey line, Zubat line and Murkrow passes Wing Attack

Overall, Noctowl's options are pretty limited, like in Platinum, and Return still helps with that a bit. Quite carried by Insomnia as HGSS likes to spread statuses in your pokemon.

Sample sets

(Ol' realiable owl)
Noctowl @ Silk Scarf • Return, Shadow Ball, Hypnosis, Reflect
Ability: Insomnia
Nature: Lonely, Hasty
EVs: 156 Attack, 100 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed

(Wally Owl)
Noctowl @ Sharp Beak • Air Slash, Roost, Feather Dance, Hypnosis/Reflect
Ability: Insomnia
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 4 Defense

(Sky Attacking Owl)
Noctowl @ Sharp Beak • Sky Attack, Return, Hypnosis, Feather Dance
Ability: Insomnia
Nature Adamant
EV: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP


r/PokemonHGSS • • 9h ago

Media Getting all shiny leaves on favorites [day 4]

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Album: https://ibb.co/album/Xxc2h7

20 done for day 4


r/PokemonHGSS • • 17h ago

Discussion Community in-game tier list: Surf encounters / Dratini

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r/PokemonHGSS • • 22h ago

Question Best way to farm xp to level up my team prior to Elite 4?

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Hi, I've reached the Elite 4 already but I feel like my team is under-levelled. I'm just wondering what's the best method / best locations for quickly getting xp and levelling up my team? I've found all of the available rare candy so they're out of the question.

Where/how should I train? Any ideas? I want to get all of my Pokémon to the mid-40's at least in terms of levelling.

My team is in the attached image. If someone can give me some tips on the fastest way to level up that would be great, thanks.

I've got Lugia at Lvl 46 + Raikou at Lvl 40 + Feraligator at Lvl 38 but I'm wanting to avoid using my starter or any legendaries on this playthrough.


r/PokemonHGSS • • 4h ago

Screenshot Time to get a shiny Snorlax!

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Going for my second battle against RED, and I’m hunting for a shiny Snorlax!
3,500 resets and counting!


r/PokemonHGSS • • 15h ago

Question I need name recs for my shiny furret!

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I went with fluffy but I feel it's a bit too generic, that said I don't want to go too ridiculous. I feel like classic ferret names are also kind of overdone.

Not looking for jokey names.

Sorry for the photo quality, my phone camera is bad.


r/PokemonHGSS • • 23h ago

Screenshot Made some adjustments, but beat the rematch

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r/PokemonHGSS • • 5h ago

Screenshot Got my first shiny leaf ever ! This is cool neat think !

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r/PokemonHGSS • • 5h ago

Question What’s your favorite song in Pokémon SoulSilver? Mine is Cianwood City

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r/PokemonHGSS • • 16h ago

Screenshot I Beat the Elite 4 of Soul Silver for the First time

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Team members
Blaziken: Phraya (The Master of the Eight Limbs / The 1% Pokewalker Legend)
Misdreavus: Hecate (The Phantom of Midnight Vengeance — OT: Ethan)
Gliscor: Camazotz (The Mayan Underworld Vampire King — Sinnoh Egg / OT: Ethan)
Feebas/Milotic: Enki (The Lord of the Deep Freshwaters / The Ascended Paradigm of Beauty — OT: Ethan)(Traded and bred a Feebas for myself, and did haircuts till it evolved)
Elekid/Electivire: Keraunos (The Mythic Thunderbolt / The Kinetic Motor Drive of the Pokéwalker Paths — OT: Ethan)
Aipom/Ambipom: Shishka (The First-Strike Cosmic Trickster / The Technician Double-Tail Slap — OT: Ethan)

Levels were 43 to about 45, we entered the leauge at 43.

Was quite the fight.


r/PokemonHGSS • • 17h ago

Emulator Please help me

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I want to evolv my Pokémon to their final forms through trading, but I can't find anyone to trade with. I hope someone can help me develop them.