r/PEDs • • Apr 06 '18

/r/PEDs FAQ & Rules - Please Read First Before Posting NSFW

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Rules

  1. Do not mention or discuss sources. First offence is a 3 day ban. Second offence is permanent
  2. Please make sure your topic is not already covered within this FAQ, or otherwise adds something new, takes a different approach.
  3. Use generic names when discussing substances (I.e. Test e, LGD, GHRP etc.). This can include brand names of legal products to avoid shilling
  4. Do not provide instruction about how to purchase illegal substances
  5. You must be 18 years of age or older to view this subreddit

 

FAQ

What are PEDs?

Performance-enhancing drugs are substances that are used to improve any form of activity performance in humans. Athletic performance-enhancing substances are sometimes referred to as ergogenic aids. Cognitive performance-enhancing drugs, commonly called nootropics, used by students to improve academic performance.

For the purposes of r/PEDs and r/PEDsR we are most interesting in athletic enhancement. For cognitive enhancement we recommend r/nootropics.

Within athletic enhancement, we commonly look at steroids, selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) and aromatase inhibitors (AIs), and selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs).

 

Where can I buy...

No

 

How can I buy...

Nope to that too

 

Should I do PEDs?

PEDs in sports are illegal. AAS are illegal in general, and SARMs are not legal for human consumption outside of research though I don't think you're likely to go to jail over them. PEDs carry risk, both legal and to your health. A profile of a PED user should be that you're willing to carry these risks, have stopped growing (25+) and have been working out consistently for a couple of years already. Beyond that it's up to you.

 

Should I do PEDs as a woman?

As above, but also consider the virilization of PEDs. There are some PEDs where the risk of virilization is considered to be too high and are not suitable for women. That said, both data on virilization is not easy to come by to categorically determine the safety of a PED for women, and your own reaction to PEDs may be different to others. There is a list of PEDs here which subjectively lists which compounds are 'safe' for women, and which are not: https://www.pedsr.com/peds-db

u/MezDez does a write up on the cause of virilization and how to mitigate sides: https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/83s7cs/females_and_peds_what_is_the_actual_cause_of/.

I would like to encourage women to post their experiences and their questions. This is a field we could use a lot more anecdotal evidence in.

 

I am <25, and considering a cycle. Many people seem to advise against it. Why?

Testosterone causes premature closing of growth plates at high doses. But outside of that, there is little data and a lot of speculation on impact of PEDs on immature athletes.

The one thing is that PEDs can be a life altering decision. Be sure this is the life you want. Once you start, you're unlikely to stop.

 

Should I PCT after a SARMs only cycle?

No. Data shows it's not necessary. While it has been a consensus to use PCT for SARMs in the past, a more rigorous approach is showing that it is not necessary on standard SARM only cycles.

SARMs do not (significantly) reduce luteinizing hormone (LH), and instead lower testosterone through a separate mechanism, probably local to the testes. SERMs increase testosterone by increasing LH, however if your LH is still within range, a SERM is not going to beneficial as a PCT. However, please do keep a SERM on hand in case of gyno etc.

 

Should I PCT after using AAS?

Yes

 

GUYS I HAVE BEEN ON CYCLE FOR A WEEK I THINK I HAVE GYNO. PLS HELP

Post pics so those running tren can appreciate your new ladyboy breasts.

Kiddingbutnotreally

If you're on AAS, you should be running an AI to reduce aromatization. If you're on SARMs only, an AI is not necessary, and gyno is fortunately rare, and would be caused by test falling while estrogen stays the same. We cover the causes here

It's easy to think that every small itch or minor change is negative, both regarding gyno and just in general. In reality, you're just a little more anxious about... well, everything, and you're fine.

If it is truly gyno, use a SERM for estrogen caused gyno, or cabergoline / P5P (Vitamin B6) for prolactin caused gyno.

 

Should I stack SARMs in my first cycle?

A first time cycle should keep it simple. You don't know how your body will react to it. There are common and uncommon side effects with PEDs, and that includes SARM only cycles. By combining compounds, you're straying away from the scientific method, where you test a single variable. For example, you run a cycle of both LGD4033 and MK677. You feel lethargic, have cramps, and flu like symptoms. Which compound caused it? You don't really know. Start with a single compound, add in others later.

Related: Stacking SARMs

 

What would an example of a PCT cycle look like?

See here. But TL:DR Nolva 20/10, Clomid 25/12.5, Torem 60/30. A more conventional PCT length would be across 4 weeks instead of 2, and be Nolva 20/20/10/10, Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5, Torem 60/60/30/30.

 

Should I use a test booster?

There is money to be made in the supplement industry and many false promises. Unless you can easily identify the products in a test booster as being proven to be effective avoid these products. Generally speaking, these products have a high price tag and are not very (if at all) effective/efficient.

 

What OTC supplements should I buy?

Like it says above, a lot of money and false promises in the supp industry. You can buy any supplement you like, just keep in mind that there is no supplement more effective than pharma grade drugs.

You may wish to consider B6 for prolactin control when on tren

 

What is the right dose for LGD4033/VK5211?

No more than 10mg, and probably closer to 5mg

 

My SARMs taste like shit.

Normal, suspension tastes awful. You can take it as a powder if you so choose to do so, but will require a milligram scale. It's a PITA to measure out tiny amounts every day, and such scales are accurate to 3mg or greater. If you're running 5mg of LGD, being 3mg either way is kind of a big deal - hence why people suspend. More on how to suspend here.

 

I think I am suppressed. Help?

Please get a blood test covering both free & total T, FSH and LH either from your doctor or a private lab. In the US, this you can get a Hormone Panel with F&T Testosterone LC/MS-MS from privatemdlabs.com, for a $105; https://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=2418&category=14&search=#2418.

If your test is low, but your LH is within range your test will return to normal without use of a SERM. If your LH is low, follow a 4 week protocol with either Nolva or Clomid. For dealing with HPTA shutdown, refer to https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/80mf58/hpta_shutdown_fact_or_fiction/

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My balls seem smaller?

Yes, this is the effect of shutdown or suppression (depending on the compound). Your testicles have reduced their ability to produce testosterone by themselves as your body benefits from an exogenous androgen/compound in your body at work. Upon discontinuing your cycle, they will return to normal shortly after a non-AAS cycle, or after PCT on an AAS cycle.

 

What else should I consider?

Blood tests provide data that is actionable. It's best practice to get a blood test immediately prior to starting a cycle that measures your baseline test. Blood tests will provide a baseline that future data can be compared against to measure change, and are often the best indicator of health. The blood test linked to above is recommended for baseline test.

If the cost of a blood test (~$100) is too much for you to do twice in an 8-12 week period, it's OK to postpone your cycle - this is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't cheap out on monitoring your health. At the end of your cycle, we ask that folks willingly share their blood results - it helps everyone. You can post your results here too, which /u/comicsansisunderused is collecting to do a meta analysis: https://goo.gl/forms/boN2W9LSxRPlJBfU2

Keep an eye on your blood pressure during cycle.

 

GUYS, MY BP IS 190/110, PLS HELP

Most PEDs will cause blood pressure to rise, if for no other reason than increases in body weight tend to do that.

List of compounds to help keep blood pressure in check:

  1. Eat yo' bananas. Potassium reverses increases in renin seen due to high sodium diets or diets lacking potassium. AAS and high carb diets causes significant sodium retention. Potassium is required to deliver water into cells (along with nutrients), but sodium pulls water out.
  2. Magnesium
  3. Vitamin K2 (mk7)
  4. Nebivolol
  5. Telmisartan

 

How much protein do I need on cycle?

'Need' is established at 0.82g/lb. However, that may not be optimal depending on your goals. Suffice to say, there is no upper limit. Want to eat 2g/lb of protein? Go for it.

 

What is the minimum cost of a PED cycle?

Roughly, $300 all in between blood tests (2 x $100), SARM ($50), Nolvadex ($30). Note that the nolva is not strictly necessary, but is a 'just in case' you receive pro-hormone, dbol, etc.

 

Where can I find doses for each compound, detection times, list of potential side effects?

https://www.pedsr.com/peds-db

 

What is more effective, liquid SARMs or powder SARMs?

It's not really going to matter. Some compounds have poor bioavailability, but for the more common PEDs such as LGD4033, Ostarine etc. we suspend for convenience and accuracy of measurements

 

I have a powder. How can I turn it into a liquid?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/8tey5b/solubility_guide/

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I have run a cycle. Now what?

Keep your gains, as best you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/9k8vr3/post_cycle_strength_preservation/

 

This FAQ will be updated as common topics change and the data we have available to us improves. Version control: last update October 5th, 2019


r/PEDs • • Sep 10 '26

[Weekly] Quick Question Thread NSFW

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Please use this thread to discuss whatever questions you may have that do not deserve their own post.


r/PEDs • • 13h ago

Is low HDL on anabolic really bad? NSFW

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I’ve been researching some of the lipid effects from different steroids. I see a lot of people speaking about the dangers of low HDL from certain anabolics. Some of the research I have come across suggests that the low HDL stems from increased breakdown (meaning increased clearance by the liver) as opposed to an effect of insulin resistance. This later factor is what I think people are afraid of: people with low HDL/high TG’s often have metabolic disease in the spectrum of insulin resistance and diabetes. Therefore the thought would be low HDL is “bad.”Just curious if there any experts or medical doctors who can provide any additional information.


r/PEDs • • 5h ago

First cycle thoughts? NSFW

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25 year old male
205 pounds
25% BF

Been on a Trt 200mg for about 6 months now after being diagnosed hypogonadic(test came back at 260 after noticing symptoms), all bloodwork is solid and within range, bp is good.

I am a high aromatizer(mostly because of high body fat) but am actively losing weight and don’t expect it to be an issue in the future. E2 came back at 95 with total t at 1400 peak on 200mg

Thinking of running a first cycle and thinking
300 test
200 primo
1mg tesa(puts me at an ideal Igf)
4-6mg Reta

Thoughts? Thinking to run primo to help with the elevated e2, and love the sleep benefits from Tesa and the appetite suppression from Reta.


r/PEDs • • 10h ago

Took NPP for the first time, my nips are on fire. NSFW

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Hey guys. I’m weening off anadrol (50mg/pw-daily/x4 weeks), I run 500iu HCG/week and I run a very small amount of test-e (like 150mg/week)

I just brought NPP into the mix, running pretty much a 1:1.5 ratio test-e:npp (225mg NPP). I pin EOD.

My nips are burning 1 hour after NPP. I don’t know if it’s the cold weather or do i need to pop an AI and ditch the NPP, stat?

I feel strong.

Also taking cardarine 10mg/daily to get more sets in. God help me. Please God help me. I think my face might be melting and I can’t find my BP cuff.


r/PEDs • • 13h ago

I was hornier as a natural NSFW

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As the title says: I was hornier as a natural.

Super weird and I miss having my crazy high libido. I could not go a day without rubbing atleast one.

I have tried alot of different protocols and compounds but libido is low on gear, even with girls I don’t really feel that excited and dont get a full on hard on..

Any solution?

Currently dropped to 300 test 100 EQ from being on 525 Test 200 EQ


r/PEDs • • 8h ago

test bold e2 at 60pg/ml NSFW

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Hey everyone
my boldenone finally saturated and a 2:1 ratio (600test 300bold) leaves me at 60pg/ml e2 and i am experiencing mild high e2 sides.
Just alittle moody, and more bloated than id like to be, none of those bad high e2 acne i get when e2 is out of control so its not that bad.

Im planning on raising my bold dose, but here lies the question, how much would you reckon if my sweet spot is 20-40pg/ml e2?
go to 350, 400bold?

Just trying to gague a common consensus how linearly or not boldenone stopped aromitization for you guys


r/PEDs • • 14h ago

Steroid cycle recovery NSFW

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Hi everyone,

I have a classic push/pull/leg workout routine.

But I enjoy going to the gym often for fun. In your opinion, how stupid is it to train without a full rest day, even with 500mg of testosterone per week?

Would you make one full rest day mandatory? Two minimum? Is there a way to train 6 or 7 days a week without compromising recovery?

Thanks!


r/PEDs • • 8h ago

e2 Aromatization NSFW

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In your opinion, is it more advantageous to have a low rate of aromatization or a high rate of aromatization?


r/PEDs • • 15h ago

Need help with test/tren balance and esther NSFW

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Have been running between 200-300 test for the past 4-5 months. Usually cypionate twice a week at around 80mg each time. And then the rest in propionate, usually daily at this point. Since I am used to the daily pins (though not sure how long one can go on pinning daily) i was thinking the ace would be better, as it also leaves system quickest if there are sides and I can tilt rate easier

The plan was to start with 5-10mg tren a daily. But homestyly prob 10. My question is should I jump right to it? Or dial back test dose for a bit. The test propionate should leave system quickly. I wanna test it out, can you do it for say a week and stop? I wanna have a prime beach body late January so trying to plan tbis cycle around that too. Should I pin the tren ace with test prop, or use test cypionate even though I'm still pinning the tren a daily? Or should the tren A be eod? Im looking to minimize side effects and have it overall be kinda "light" which is an oxymoron for tren but I mean microdose. I am serious into lift and do it daily and have been but im not exactly a professional bodybuilder yet or going to competitions.

Thanks


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

TRT via telehealth. Bloodwork timing. NSFW

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I’m on TRT via S&H in Canada. I was taking 110mg a week which brought me just under 1000 ng/dl on my last labs.

My provider is okay with that, but didn’t want me higher. I’ve decided to increase to 150mg a week.

Should i drop before my next bloodwork? If so, how soon before?


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

Topical Superdrol NSFW

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Topical Superdrol

DMSO is most of the time used for oral compounds,

but people forget that it also has the ability to take whatever compound is dissolved with it when used topically at around (25-40% in studies 50-70% anecdotally).

The best absorption is testicles and armpits.
It hits the bloodstream within 15 minutes but takes 2-8 hours to peak.

I have Superdrol in dmso. Will be tryng 15mg on armpits tomorrow split 4-2-1 hours before lift.

Worse case scenario I smell like shi and nothing happens or I get a slight irritation rash

I don’t think this is a better way of doing it im just curious to try it.

(I have heard of d1 athletes do this as it makes it less detectable)

Any questions, comments, concerns?

Update pre gym: I now have greasy garlic balls

Post gym update: amazing pump amazing session moved up on the weight on every lift( I know this will go away ) yes it works guys.


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

Low doses and hairloss NSFW

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I know that the follicles sensitivity is what matters to hairloss regardless of DHT levels. but lets say a genetically prone individual to hairloss takes 70mg of tren vs 600, would he get the same hairloss regardless of the dose? as in would the 70mg give the same androgenic signalling as a higher dose?


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

TEST E + Primo Cycle. NSFW

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Looking for feedback.

20 Yr Old Male | 5' 8 | 150 pounds | Working out for two years, decent natty physique.

Goal: To stay around the same weight but lean out and gain more muscle.

How: Looking to run a 3 month low dose cycle of 150 Test E with a moderate dose of Primo, dose undecided at the moment. I know I might get some backlash on my age, but I have enclo ready for post cycle and will be doing cardio, supplementing, and eating well on the cycle. I am also not taking a huge amount of test, so I assume total shutdown will happen, but I also expect a solid recovery.

Any thoughts on the cycle?


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

AI/LLM no longer provide information, let alone advice NSFW

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Previously, Perplexity and, to a lesser degree, Claude, provided information on PEDs and protocols. My first query was "build me a table of HGH doses and fequencies from mild to extreme in wellness and bodybuilding communities". Perfect, it gave me a spectrum with detailed information.

Now that is no longer possible. Is anyone else seeing this and are there alternative LLMs/services I can access?

Today, ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity provide no information (let alone advice) on dosages and information. Grok does to some degree but has also taken a step back.

Interestingly, I can still access old threads and when I say 'reproduce what you already gave me" and it says "i can't and I shouldn't have" etc etc.


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

test to mast ratio NSFW

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In your opinion, what should the ratio of Masteron P to Test E be when I add it to my current cycle? I’m using 300 mg of Test E; my body fat is around 15–16%, and I’m in a strict cutting phase. Should I start with a low dose—like 150 mg—to see how it goes, or just jump straight to 300 mg? I used to need a bit of an AI when running 300 mg of Test; how do you think my body might react regarding E2 levels if I add 300 mg of Masteron?


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

Not prone to hair loss + masteron = ? NSFW

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I always hear about masteron destroying everyones hairline.. But what if your asian with good hair genes? Will the reaper still come for me?


r/PEDs • • 1d ago

T3 and T4 are low on 70mg tren, need advice NSFW

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Hello guys i just did blood work and
T3 is 1.15 (normal 1.3-3.1)
T4 is 63.7 (normal 66-181)
TSH is 2.80 (normal 0.27-4.20)

Im on 350Test 70Tren nothing else , i did not use T3 or T4 .
Before tren everything was normal
Its been 2 months im on it and thyroid is low

Thats from tren right? I actually thought tren should also crash TSH with it , thats why im asking if its from tren.
And its kinda weird to me cuz its only 70mg a week?

Anyways what should i do , should i supplement t4? How much ? I really dont wanna overshoot anything ? And will T4 make me flat if it puts my in normal range?

Any advice gonna be appreciated


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

Any one else has stomach and acid reflux problems on clomid ? NSFW

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Any one else has stomach and acid reflux problems on clomid ?


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

Orals + Injectable Cycle -- Start or End, which do you like? NSFW

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If you do use orals on cycle do you prefer adding orals to the start of your injectable cycle or end?


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

Tren, Mast, Var Cycle Questions. NSFW

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I'm currently 6 weeks into a 12 week bulk and planning for my cut. Current stack is 600 sustanon, 300 npp, 50 anadrol ED. Bloodwork looks good other than cholesterol.

I'm planning on running reta, tren a, mast e, anavar 25 and 50, as well as sustanon.

I know I risk sounding like a tard when I ask this, but what should my doses be? I have experience with mast and anavar, but not tren. Last time I ran mast at 300mg with 500 test, and anavar 50 with 500 test. I had good results with both.

I've been seeing other users "cutting dosages" in other post, and it seems like they're running way less than I would think you're "supposed" to run. If I can get similar results with lower dosages, I'd much rather do that opposed to running over a I'd like some advice with planning this stack or some personal experiences with using all of these compounds together.


r/PEDs • • 3d ago

Crashing hard post cycle despite still being on Test NSFW

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Hey yall,

Dealing with something that's new to me, Ive run many cycles before and had no problem just stopping at the end and not dealing with many after effects since I'm on TRT through my doctor. Usually I'll feel a little fatigue and lethargy and a little weakness but it subsides within a week or so. So this is kind of tripping me out.

I finished my cycle of Super about 4 days ago. I was taking 20mg a day, 10 in the morning pre-workout and 10 in the evening, to keep blood levels more steady. Full cycle only lasted 3 weeks. It ended with a bit of heightened anxiety but nothing too crazy. On top of that I use 200mg test cyp a week, ive gone up to 300 and 400 before but 200 to 250 seems to be where I feel best.

However, since stopping, each night I've been waking up throughout the night to panic attacks. I can hardly sleep at all as well. On top of that I've had absolutely CRUSHING depression and INSANE day-time Anxiety creep up over the past 3 days coupled with an exhaustion and fatigue that I have never felt before, I can hardly drag myself around all I want to do is sleep. Man I just feel like death allday.

I got my post cycle tests done 2 days ago and my e2 was high (76), so I took .25 ari like I do when that happens. But nothings helped whatsoever. I even did one of my (twice weekly) 100mg test cyp pins today early and it did nothing for me, I've only gotten worse through the day, I had to leave work early, i just couldnt stay on my feet any longer.

Needless to say, I'm going to take a long break from PEDs after this (besides test, always been a good reliable one for me that generally makes me feel better on a daily basis), if I ever even do go back (dont think ive ever felt this low before), but does anyone have any recs on getting past this? More bloodwork? More frequent or higher test for the time being? Anyone experienced this before? I have no idea why Its never happened with any cycle before but is now.


r/PEDs • • 3d ago

Has anyone developed more grey hair since using gear? NSFW

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Before starting steroids 3 years ago i barely had any gray hair now fast forward i get lots of people telling me that i have a lot of grey hair which is wild lol not really bothered by it much but interested if anyone has this side as well?


r/PEDs • • 2d ago

If adex has rebound and half life is 40-48h, isnt it better to take it EOD? NSFW

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I see some trt guys they take 1mg Once a week or something like that. But half life is 40-48h then ur e2 gonna bounce again.

Isnt it better to dose adex EOD ?

Dont mention asin at all , I already know everything about it. I have been using it for a year, my question is related to adex.


r/PEDs • • 3d ago

Can mug warmers damage gear potency? NSFW

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Hadn’t considered this prior to using one, but can the heat from mug warmers damage gear?

The first several times I used it, I left it on the high setting (175F) for probably 10-15 minutes while I showered. Have since used it at 125, but am concerned I possibly hurt potency by running it so high.