r/IntensiveCare • u/swaggydoo29 • 20h ago
pressors - angiotensin II
50s M homelessness, DM2, R foot diabetic ulcer (source of infection). came to the ED for weakness. labs drawn. sepsis bundle done. cultures, abg, cbc, renal, etc done.
admitted to the ICU for dka, sepsis w end organ dysfunction, crrt initation.
drips are:
insulin
LR/D5LR
levo @ 35mcg (max 80)
vaso 0.04
angio II 20ng/kg/min (max 80)
labs are attached.
at what point do you decide to run angio? when your max on all pressors? or does a specific lab indicate to run it?
ive had patients who will be max on levo, vaso, neo, epi, then will add angio for the last pressors and lil bit push of bicarb and some methylene blue as last resort.
and i had patients who are just on angiotensin II drip by itself.
and i had patients who are on mid levo and on vaso 0.04 and will add angio II.
whats your experience regarding angiotensin II or giapreza? is there a standard that providers follow when to initiate it?
Edit/updates:
lactate now at 10.50 from 3.90
push of methylene blue
max now on Levo
on vaso
Max on Gia
now adding Epi to sustain MAP 65
stopped pulling on CRRT.
thought about neo, but providers said not for now since neo has a lot of volume and tends to run fast and will be a problem in the long run bec we cant pull on CRRT since pressor reqs are going up.
Update:
patient now intubated. just fent for sedation.
still wakes up and follows commands. RASS -1 GCS11T
max on levo vaso epi neo gia
stopped crrt due to inc pressor reqs
UOP avg 50ml/hr
echo showed 70-75% EF
insulin drip @ 24u/hr w glucose not dropping. still at 400s.
continuously replacing K+ and calcium chloride
CVP 17
attaching flotrac to see hemodynamics
lactat 8
agap still 17