Looks like we have confirmation. Argon is not a Pro model as it is listed separate from Pro. Not only that, Argon is listed as being a higher tier above Pro. Is 4.0 Pro going to be released then?

https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/18648722?hl=en&ref_topic=13194540

Still praying for Pro users

I'm on the ultra plan and have been using argon for all sorts of things, like designing and critiquing recipes/weighing different cooking techniques against each other (I have a custom DB based on "The Flavor Bible" which it consults for ingredient pairings and several custom skills), creating custom 3D-printable models in Fusion 360, creative writing, auditing and improving my massive homelab and various custom apps and infrastructure, explaining complex scientific topics, helping me rehab my shoulder and knees, etc. and it has been the best model for all of these tasks out of all the models I've tried (and I've tried basically all of them).

I don't really know if it's the best for coding, or for generating SVGs of pelicans, or doing homework, or whether or not it knows if I should drive or walk to the car wash. I don't use it for anything like that and I don't really see the point. But for general knowledge, spatial reasoning, and just apparent intelligence, it seems to be knocking it out of the park with what I use it for.

Yeah, usage goes fast, but honestly I've gotten things done in these last two days which I've previously just straight-up given up on with other models due to not getting the output that I want. To me that's worth it. Time is money as they say.

Anyone else having similar experiences? Unique use cases where it seems to be doing particularly well?

Excited to see what the pro/flash versions are like.

This isn't exactly a groundbreaking use case but it's something I never imagined I could do.

I've always wanted my Google Pixel to display the day of the week and the month in the status bar. The existing apps that do this on the Play Store never looked native on a Pixel device, or were buggy/poorly rated.

Now that Argon released, I decided to give it a try.

I have zero coding or development experience and was able to get this running on my pixel in about 3-4 hours (most of which was learning how to even install and use Antigravity).

I'm not sure others will care but I just wanted to share this because if you're intimidated by using Antigravity or trying to develop your own app, it's absolutely doable!

I'm on the Student AI Pro tier with 5TB of storage and decided to try Gemini 4 Argon in the web client.

So far, I actually prefer it to GPT-6 Sol High for finding and analyzing information. It surfaced more relevant sources, inferred what I was trying to accomplish better, and gave me more useful answers for practical real-world questions, whereas GPT often leans toward more theoretical responses.

The downside is that I burned through the usage allowance incredibly quickly.

I only had four chats with around 2–3 messages each using Medium reasoning, and that was enough to exhaust my hourly allowance and use about 5% of the weekly one. Now I've been dropped down to 3.5 Flash-Lite.

For comparison, I've never managed to hit the usage limits on OpenAI, even though I use High reasoning for basically everything.

Really disappointing, because I was otherwise very impressed with Argon.

(post is GPT 6 reworded because of the stupid filter on this sub)

EDIT:

Questions asked:

1. Analysis on a macro-economic theory
2. Compare two USB-C AMP/DAC dongles
3. Compare Jetbrains AI tools
4. Upgrade the custom ROM of an old phone

Ah wait.

AI Pro Workspace Account

Is this a bug? yesterday (the release day) it didn't exceeds 10% for each prompt unless i made it do complex task, and I used it for heavier task (reading and synthesizing information from 500 pages story, ask it to web search and trawl information from the internet). The usage limit seems to be heavily nerfed and when I asked people on discord, they just said Argon uses a lot of token, it shouldn't be using this much for saying 'test'.

Honestly, I get that with limited resources they can't offer the models like they used to. In a situation like this, they have no choice but to kick out the freeriders. The problem is that right now, Google is screwing over Pro users too. With these kinds of limits and performance, I'd rather just use Claude.

I tested out Argon on my sibling's AI Pro account and OMG the usage limits are horrendous. Simply asking "Compare haiku 5.5 with 3.8 flash" used up 8% of her quota. How am I getting more usage out of Opus 5.5 on Claude Pro when it's 2x more expensive? And once the 50% discount ends on Nov 30, these limits are going straight down the drain.

I only loved 3.7 Flash because of the blazing speed. 3.8 Flash doenst meaningfully improve for my use case. When DeepSeek v4.1 Flash dropped, I switched over immediately since it's cheaper and faster (but oh boy does it think a lot!).

I just want a Gemini 4 Flash running at 300 tps at Sonnet 5.5 level intelligence with actually usable limits. Argon's quota is an absolute joke.

I'm too raged to even articulate this properly, but seeing this really put things into perspective.

OpenCode can offer this level of access through API billing, but Google can't even give Pro subscribers minimal usage?

Instead, the pitch is essentially: "Hey, Pro subscribers get Gemini 4 Argon... Web only"

I just tried Google Gemini Argon on Medium with a pretty simple coding task.

All I wanted was a small background script for my Mac that keeps my Cambridge Audio desktop speakers awake. They automatically go into standby after 20 minutes of inactivity, so the idea was to have a lightweight script running in the background to prevent that.

Nothing complicated. Just a short script.

It took about 5 chat exchanges and roughly 5 minutes, including a few iterations because the script wasn't working properly at first.

And the result?

85% of my entire 5-hour usage limit was gone.

I'm paying for the Pro subscription, and I honestly can't understand what Google was thinking with these limits.

How am I supposed to properly evaluate a model if a tiny task like this nearly exhausts my entire usage allowance?

I don't even know whether Argon is a good model yet, because I can barely use it long enough to find out.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Are these limits seriously that restrictive, or is something wrong with my account?

Because at this point, I'm genuinely wondering what I'm paying for.

I am a fan of Gemini for runtime Apis due to cost and latency but for coding... Just found out that something is deeply wrong here.... I've paid for Gemini AI Ultra x20 this afternoon adding it to my Claude and Codex max x20 fleet today. After applying the same skills and plug-ins and md files, I gave it a try and found Argon high to be about 4 times slower than Opus 5.5 High and 2x slower than Astra, and the worst part is that it had an absurd number of regressions that my deterministic tests caught 115 regressions from a 4h work!!! And it took 4h more hours to "fix" bugs they've created! 20% of my weekly budget is gone after that. This is just crazy... How much they advertised this model to be frontier but it's way worse than Sol.

What a mess

I have both 20x Claude and 20x Codex. When it came to creativity, I preferred Claude over Codex. Now it's easily Argon over both of those combined.

The 20 dollar plan might provide only like 10 messages per session limit, but it's only around 3-4% of weekly. Totally worth it given the stuff it has come up with so far for me. Even before Argon I remember talking to the standard Google AI model that comes up in the browser and even those could come up with some unique stuff.

This surprises me considering their low hallucination rate, 15% compared to other frontier models coming in at around 45%. Usually when I think of low hallucination rate models, I just think of models that refuse to answer any questions or come up with anything because they don't have enough knowledge to answer it properly. With Argon, it's beautiful.

I was just messing around with Gemini 4 when I thought of a childhood game I used to play in the early 2000s. It was called Star Trek: Starfleet Command. I played one and two. Loved the heck out of those games.

I asked Gemini to research the game and show it a HUD reference. The ships it created on its own.
The game feels great. Almost the way I remember, but battles end a bit faster. It's still a long way from a complete game, but I really believe Gemini can create games. All you have to do is give it a lot of information early on.

The game will look glitchy only because I was recording it. It seems to run smoother when not recording the video.

Here is a GitHub link if anyone wants to try it out or even make improvements https://github.com/testingyoubob/Star-Trek-StarFleet-Command-game-

Year ago I could chat with gemini for 2 hour straight and maybe 10% of limit was used, and now i tried the argon. Asked for any information about the strategy of pro plan being for 3 bucks a month on discount and next tier being 100, and got biggest bullshit ever, started talking about a 3.5 PRO, alr I asked a followup question about his 3.5 pro rolling out. Told me that 3.5 is being in "cooming soon phase" but it is internally still hosted by google on their tpu. Then i looked at my limits and 30% are gone. 2 QUESTIONS AND 30% GOOGLE??

Wtf google. That's 7 basic prompts across 3 chats.

All asking Argon (medium) questions like, create me a diet plan, here's my height and weight, find coffee beans that match this taste profile in my area, and recommend me mods for a popular video game that I play.