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u/SexuaIRedditor 15h ago

Every GTA brings a new benchmark to the table, and I'm worried that 6 will just be "5 but even better" instead of introducing something new.

GTA: launched the entire subgenre

GTA2: gangs, loyalty bonuses

GTA3: third-person

GTAVC: properties with passive income

GTASA: territories, ambient NPC dialogue based on what you're doing/how you look, gigantic map with no load screens in between areas

GTA4: actual dramatic story, play an illegal alien trying to survive vs a power fantasy like the other games, GPS and unique braking/handling performance per car

GTA5: character-switching mechanic, heists with different outcomes and loot depending on player choices, character special abilities

Hoping the 6th game keeps the trend going!

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u/BusterGreasewood 13h ago

GTA4 didn't really introduce anything new. San Andreas already introduced the idea of more dramatic story (and did it better than 4 did even with having humor). The only thing GTA4 did that was new to GTA specifically was GPS and the idea of having multiple endings.

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u/ClammHands420 6h ago

GTA4 introduced the physics based engine they use today, and that feeling of weight, the per-pixel anatomical force feedback, and the insane shit that would naturally occur because of the interdependent, always-active physics systems on each scene object were all generation-defining.

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u/KhaoticKid98 3h ago

Brother what??

Euphoria physics??

Unscripted damage physics.

Minigames.

Useful side character relationships

There are tons of other little nuiances that GTA 4 introduced us to that i cant even think of right now.

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u/BusterGreasewood 3h ago

Minigames aren't new to GTA. SA already introduced the concept. And GTA4's physics are dog shit. Yeah, it's new for GTA, but it ruined the car handling.

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u/Big-Advertising-8084 13h ago

Gta4s driving mechanics were also goated.

Going fast and hitting a pole shot you straight out the front window. Gta 5s driving is more arcade like.

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u/Mr_DrPepper12 13h ago

It’s such a hard balance bc if I wanted a driving sim I’d just play beamng but I don’t want that in my gta game. I’m a big fan of the arcade me mechanics. I’m not trying to do driving sim, the driving is just a tool in the game and I prefer it to be fun and easy over realistic. But I could be in the minority on this

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u/Big-Advertising-8084 12h ago

It really depends on the direction they go because I don't wanna be doing 150mph and running from the cops and I hit a wal or something and it does nothing to my car. That wouldn't make any sense especially with shooting the cops tires and their whole car flipped over in the trailer I'm sure they will make it so driving good is a nessisary thing in gta 6 simply just from watching the trailer.

That being said yeah we don't want it being as realistic as beamng

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u/shokalion 51m ago

It's hard to experience now if you've played them both a lot but I remember the first time I played GTAV after having played 4, it felt as though the car was stuck to the road like a rollercoaster to its track. I didn't like it at all at first.

It's admittedly easier to pick up and have fun with immediately, but it has to be said that mastering the driving physics on GTAIV was way more satisfying.

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u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG 10h ago

I'm sick of this take. holy crap they were not goated. they were trash. a supercar felt the same as a suv. I was driving boats. GTA isn't a driving simulator and what they gave us on IV sucked ass.

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u/Big-Advertising-8084 9h ago

You gotta remember this was like what 2007? Yeah I'd say it was pretty good for the time.

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u/BusterGreasewood 6h ago

The GTA games that came out prior had better car handling

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u/tschrock 12h ago

Didn't 4 introduce the cell phone feature?

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u/BusterGreasewood 12h ago

Well, yes there is that, but it really didn't come into play as a heavily used, mutli-use feature until GTA5.

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u/shokalion 49m ago

Carl absolutely had a cellphone in GTASA.

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u/Cuban999_ 11h ago

Gta 4 also had more minigames, a working online web, and the euphoria physics technology

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u/Joulmaster 11h ago

San Andreas is one of the best written stories/dialog in any game ever.

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u/OutlandishnessThis67 5h ago

GTA 4 actually introduce lots detail that makes it a more believable city then gtav

I still listen to the comedy radio channel in gta4 till this day

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u/Spookyscary333 1h ago

Yeah nothing new aside from online multi-player which is now Rockstars bread and butter on GTAV

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u/BusterGreasewood 59m ago

Technically the PSP GTA games did that first

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u/VegetaFan1337 7h ago

GTA 4 did introduce something new. It had a more serious, prestige-style story that helped set the stage for games like The Last of Us. GTA 4 walked so The Last of Us could run.

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u/BusterGreasewood 7h ago edited 3h ago

That's not new at all even for GTA. San Andreas already did that.

And you hadserious style stories in games before like Silent Hill 2 or Legacy of Kain

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u/VegetaFan1337 6h ago

GTA SA was more tongue in cheek, like GTA 5.

I didn't say GTA 4 was the first to do that, it was a mainstream game that paved the way for others.

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u/BusterGreasewood 6h ago

San Andreas has humor, but it was still pretty serious. Same for Vice City Stories.

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u/camlo316 15h ago edited 15h ago

Just by their patents I think there’s going to be some really innovative revolutionary stuff

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u/spooner248 15h ago

Wait really? That’s awesome. What are they filing?

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u/Lorrdy_ 12h ago

Great patents, meaning nobody else can do these mechanics. That's surely makes gaming better for everyone. *caugh* nemesis system

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 9h ago

You play as an extraterrestrial in GTA4? Fuck I might have to try it

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u/B0B_RO55 13h ago

The new police system is a major step up from previous games. That and dynamic open world robberies is something no other gta game has done

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u/SexuaIRedditor 13h ago

Oooooh both of those things sound incredibly interesting, thanks for taking the time to point them out!

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u/Good_Duck_234 15h ago

A lot of younger people today will never know the impact GTA 3 had on the gaming industry when it came out back in 2001. It was like what GTA 6 will be to modern gaming.

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u/Visible-Meat3418 12h ago

Young me was proper shocked when I loaded up GTA3 lol

Shit was insane back then

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u/VegetaFan1337 7h ago

Reply to the right comment.

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u/Visible-Meat3418 11h ago

I still feel like IV is a step back from GTA:SA. I was very sad when I saw that we are only limited by the city in IV cause I really enjoyed driving around the outskirts in SA

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u/booze_clues 10h ago

I don’t think GTA6 is going to be as groundbreaking as people expect. Most of the features I’ve seen arent anything new, and some are fairly shallow like fueling a car that people are praising. I think it will be a huge release, lots of good reviews, ill enjoy it a ton, but I don’t see it bringing any huge changes to the industry or the series.

Hopefully I’m wrong though.

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u/MrBrxghtside 3h ago

ive seen people talking about how insane some of these "new features" are gonna be, which are features both gta 4 and 5 had like robbing stores, owning property, entering a variety of buildings, playing minigames etc. Some even saying "in heists jason will pick up every bill there is individually" like bro, we literally saw a cutscene in the extended gameplay trailer where a beer magically appears in his hand, get real lol

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u/sec713 10h ago

I sure hope so.

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u/simward 7h ago

It was like what GTA 6 will be to modern gaming.

LMAO! Calm down buddy

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u/ten_year_rebound 15h ago

Even from what we’ve seen so far I don’t think this is a risk at all. The open world systems seem pretty complex

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u/SexuaIRedditor 15h ago

Awesome, glad to hear!

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u/Procol_Being 12h ago

With all the leaks and stories and this is what you're worried about? Lmao, they've spent hundreds of millions on just the tech for this game to make NPCs next level. It will be mind blowing, just like back in 2013 GTA5 was, and RDR2 was in 2018.

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u/EghtBll44 11h ago

Actually, more like every 3rd GTA booms big. GTA 3 with mindblowing graphics / world / etc. never seen before. GTA 4 with graphics / engine / physics that are still unmatched to this very day. GTA 6 is the next 3rd one, just saying.

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u/ClammHands420 6h ago

I dont think the physics are unmatched. RDR2 was about as weighty and feels as impactful in every way. And just like gta4, people bitch about it all the time when the game comes up in conversation. It's a big reason they scaled it back in 5. Im hoping 6 adds a bit of that meatiness back, but we'll just have to see.

Not picking it up til it's on PC tho. 30fps feels like shit on any screen larger than a Switch.

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u/EghtBll44 1h ago

Mhh.. You are right. Not sure why I forgot about RDR2 I love the game. In 5 it's said to be scaled back because they had to (well, I mean they didn't haaaave to...) release it on the shitbox era consoles (PS3/X360) which were on their absolute last legs barely alive, as in weak as f... by that time and there simply wasn't enough computing capacity.

I hear you about 30FPS.. I'm worried about that too.. I'm used to playing 120FPS/Hz on OLED in 4K 😂 But I definitely cannot and will not wait. Gonna play in on PS5 Pro so giving it just about every edge I can but yeah.

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u/SexuaIRedditor 11h ago

Very interesting catch there, here's hoping they keep that going!

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u/michelangelo2626 14h ago

Character switching in GTA5 was probably their biggest mistake. It’s hard enough writing a compelling story with one main character, let alone three. Final boss was some random corpo that screwed the gang over in the third act. There was no build up to the antagonist like there was in GTA4. I was left asking “that’s it?” after finishing GTA5.

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u/aTimeTravelParadox 13h ago

Hard disagree, but to each their own.

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u/michelangelo2626 11h ago

Who even was the antagonist of GTA 5? I feel like there isn’t a good answer.

Without even looking it up, I know that Dmitri is the antagonist in GTA4.

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u/Tawxif_iq 14h ago

You forgot. Sanandreas ran on 32mb ram with 3 huge open world cities with no loading screen while traveling.

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u/bosco9 13h ago

GTA5 didn't really feel much different from the previous ones aside from graphical upgrades (the stuff you mentioned doesn't really alter the game drastically but still added depth). At this point I'm keeping my expectations low but still looking forward to it

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u/EmmyRossumFan 13h ago

They already are, I get to be a lady lol

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u/_AnonMax_ 13h ago

You forgot that GTA IV brought usable cellphones and usable internet

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u/WoodenPresence1917 12h ago

heists with different outcomes and loot depending on player choices

Acting like there have never been missions/quests with more than 2 possible outcomes before lmoa

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u/h0nest_Bender 12h ago

Hoping the 6th game keeps the trend going!

It's going to revolutionize monetization.

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u/Lorrdy_ 12h ago

MOst things like GTASA aren't even in GTA5

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u/tinylittlebuddy 4h ago

counterpoint: they’ve just been spicing up GTA 3 with better graphics and accessories since 2003 or whatever.

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u/SexuaIRedditor 4h ago

Each mainline game at least added or refined something significant imo, aside from better graphics/production value (physics, licensing popular music, etc.) that made it worth playing

Vice City added motorbikes and aircraft

San Andreas had the weapon leveling and the giant map

4 added the GPS and ambient side activities

5 had the heists and GTA online exploded

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u/shokalion 42m ago

This is just patently untrue. The leap between GTA3 and even San Andreas is huge, never mind GTA3 to GTA V.

It's massively more than graphics too.

GTA3 didn't even have an in-game map other than the minimap when driving, Claude never speaks, he's never part of any gangs, really, he has no backstory to speak of, there's no ability to influence anything.

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u/overtherainbowsix 14h ago

This game looks like even greater jump than previous gtas (except from 2 to 3 maybe)

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u/QuietResident96 13h ago

This is genuinely such a brain dead take

"It's just GTA 5 but better"

5 absolutely has nowhere near the level of detail that 6 has been shown to have, the depth of features and mechanics etc

This is 100% a massively bad faith argument to just say you aren't interested in GTA 6

Criticise it for valid reasons, not whatever you feel like making up 🤷

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u/SexuaIRedditor 13h ago

Angry little fella aren't ya.

I'm not shitting on 6, I'm just worried that it won't be this paradigm shift that the other games have all been. Judging by some replies to this comment though, it does indeed seem like there's a lot to get excited for!

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u/QuietResident96 13h ago

Ah yeah, anyone who even remotely disagrees with this sub is "angry" or some other flavour of word

Clearly didn't read what I said did you? Calling this GTA 5 but better is just factually incorrect and blatantly false, the only person angry is you because I called out a ridiculous take 🤷

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u/SexuaIRedditor 13h ago

Read the entire sentence dude lol

I'm worried that 6 will just be "5 but better"

You know what I'm not being fair (truly), I didn't consider that English might not be your first language: that sentence isn't me offering an opinion on the game one way or the other, I was just worried that after decades of standout, era-defining titles that the creativity might have started to run dry. Again, not actually saying that it is, just expressing a worry that it might be.

Again look at the replies talking about all the new systems they've included and you can see just how much there is to get excited for so I'm very happy to be wrong in that worry (at least for my taste)!

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u/QuietResident96 13h ago

English is my first language and you can clearly tell it is, save your strawman lol

I read what you said, you're the one implying that 6 might be just 5 but better, you chose your own words I didn't make you say anything 🤷

Why on earth would you ever actually think that 6 MIGHT be 5 but better if you've been following the marketing campaign?? You can clearly tell the level of detail is vastly superior to 5 in every way, it's a non issue

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u/SexuaIRedditor 13h ago

Jesus Christ dude if you're just going to refuse to read I don't know how to have a conversation with you haha, have a good one

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u/QuietResident96 12h ago

Absolute lol, the classic "i can't come up with an actual rebuttal and you're not letting me win the argument so I'm going home"

Off ya fuck kindly 🤷

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u/SexuaIRedditor 11h ago

Right on buddy, you win!

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u/stprnn 11h ago

Except you are greatly exaggerating the innovation of 4 and 5. The growth ended with san Andreas. Since then it's just graphic bumps and coasting

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u/Reallyroundthefamily 10h ago

What a unique way to say you've not done very much research at all about GTA 6 lol. If you did, you know how ignorant this statement of yours is.

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u/SexuaIRedditor 10h ago

This entire sub is absolute clown shoes haha. Read the replies

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u/Reallyroundthefamily 7h ago edited 7h ago

But that doesn't have anything to do with you making a very ignorant statement. You could have taken a minute to look up the differences for GTA 6 instead of typing all that crap out about the other titles to try and make a point that youre ignorant about lol.

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u/Fun-Elderberry-418 12h ago

“Illegal alien” shut up

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u/SexuaIRedditor 11h ago

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u/Fun-Elderberry-418 11h ago

Wdym “?” Moron

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u/SexuaIRedditor 11h ago

I'm asking why you're telling me to shut up, I don't get it