I didn't play the games and just watched the series...
So... What????
That sounds like a horrible "plot twist" to do. I have nothing against game of thrones style killings. But it just doesn't seem to fit the narrative of last of us. There are only two major characters in the series. Killing anyone of them makes the story pretty pointless.
But it just doesn't seem to fit the narrative of last of us.
Yeah for sure, there are no characters the audience cares about who die in TLOU, it's just not that kind of story! It's supposed to be a happy fun time romp across America with our favourite duo. It's not like there are any moments in the first game/season where one of the main characters appears to die, only for the eventual twist that they did survive, it's just not that kind of story!
I mean that's just my opinion. Killing the main character essentially ends the story. Possible but I really don't see a reason for season 2 then and a also don't care about it anymore. Is he killed at the end of season 2? That would be something else.
Yeah pretty much. If it had ended like that the story would have been pretty much over for me. Not bad or something. Its even a kind of fitting end. But an end.
Fair enough if that's your honest opinion. You would have struggled through the Winter section of the game, you spend a good hour or two with Ellie on her own with no idea Joel is alive. It's interesting cos I distinctly remember that was the most praised section of the game when it released.
I feel like it was highly praised because of how that section ended. If they just killed off Joel there it would never have been as popular.
The end for that section of the game was the culmination of all the emotional moments between the two characters up until that point, and was Joel finally letting go and treating Ellie as his daughter. When he holds her calls her "baby girl" like he did to his actual daughter at the start of the game is one of the most emotionally satisfying moments in gaming.
I don’t think it was popular because people thought Joel was dead, it was because the narrative of what Ellie went through in his absence was very compelling
I'm not saying it was popular because people thought Joel was dead, I'm just pointing out that if someone thinks Joel dieing is bad writing and immediately ends the story they're going to struggle with those hours.
It’s not even that I dislike Ellie, it’s just that she was 1 of 2 characters I actually gave a fuck about, and I thought the reason for killing Joel off was kind of stupid, unwarranted, and too early just to push the narrative of dual female protagonists.
Again, don’t care that there are multiple women as main characters, it’s just that I don’t give a fuck about one of them and the other I was there for the interactions with a now dead character.
His arc was complete at the end of TLOU, there wouldn't have been a part 2 at all if he'd been alive, there was nothing left for them to say. The whole story was a direct result of Joel's choice to lie to Ellie at the end of part 1, personally that was the thing I found so riveting, because we discovered Ellie had found out the secret and wanted nothing to do with him, yet was this driven by his death. Finding out at the end that Ellie had forgiven him the very day he'd died was heartbreaking. It's a pity the story didn't work for many people.
What do you mean there is nothing left to say? It’s about them living in a post-apocalyptic world there are always stories to tell, I wasn’t a fan of them walking themselves into a corner when it came to the cure at the end of the first game either.
I was playing the game for Joel and Ellie, and seeing how they survived against adversity, together. What exactly is Ellie’s arc after the first game? She had just as little open and unresolved as Joel did, they completed their journey and it got them a big nothing burger. Based off what you think, why make a second game at all?
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u/Soggy_Ad7165 Apr 21 '24
I didn't play the games and just watched the series...
So... What????
That sounds like a horrible "plot twist" to do. I have nothing against game of thrones style killings. But it just doesn't seem to fit the narrative of last of us. There are only two major characters in the series. Killing anyone of them makes the story pretty pointless.