r/ukraine • Ukraine Media • 1d ago

News 'This cannot be a coincidence' — Ukraine's Starlink access restricted without warning, Zelensky adviser says

https://kyivindependent.com/this-cannot-be-a-coincidence-ukraines-starlink-access-restricted-without-warning-zelensky-adviser-says/
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u/Ok_Tie_7564 1d ago

Betrayed by Americans. Correction, betrayed by Krasnov (acting on Putler's orders).

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u/Ascomae Germany 23h ago

No the first was correct.

Three Americans allowed this. There are no general strikes. No serious protests. Nothing

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u/Ballad_13 21h ago

No, the first wasnt correct and you know it.

Weve been betrayed by our own government and citizens are being executed by ICE during protests.

Direct your anger where it rightfully goes, the american government, and not at its citizens. Americans stand with Ukraine. We arent a hivemind monolith.

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u/INITMalcanis 20h ago

Direct your anger where it rightfully goes, the american government, and not at its citizens.

Trump wasn't installed by military force. He was voted in by a majority. He's the symptom, not the disease.

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u/Ok_Vulva 20h ago

Elon musk used psychological warfare techniques to manipulate the slow and gulible on the platform he bought, and literally cut off access to the internet out of anger over ukraine destroying his bot army. The bot army that pumps him up. Went from a normal of 80k likes to 6k.

And according to Trump, he fucked with the election computers too.

We didn't vote for the loser, some of our parents did because their stupid sure, but no. It wasn't a normal election

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u/Korps_de_Krieg 16h ago

No he wasn’t? 22% of the overall American population voted for him, only 31.6% of voting age people. There is zero world you spin those numbers as “the majority wanted him”.

Our electoral system is fucked and has essentially paved a way for only 1 in 5 Americans to want someone to be President and that be enough, because every effort has been made for decades to disenfranchise voters and make people more likely to vote for liberal policies less likely to vote. Pretending this is some simple “Americans are just evil losers” write off is so disingenuous to the actual realities most Americans face when engaging their civil liberties.

But no, the majority of Americans didn’t want him a second time. I think a fair number of people thought there was no way he’d get through a second time and honestly stayed home. That was a fucking tragic mistake, but that isn’t the same as actively wanting him in office and you know that.

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u/Xenomemphate 14h ago

There is zero world you spin those numbers as “the majority wanted him”.

I am sorry to tell you this, all the non-voters can be considered to having wanted this, they never opposed it after all. They do not get a free pass for their apathy. That brings up the "number that wanted this" to around 70% of the population. They had a chance to take a stand and decided not to.

Active or passive support, it doesn't matter, it is still support.

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u/Korps_de_Krieg 13h ago

Cool, then every single person in Europe who didn’t vote explicitly supports their right wing parties ideologically because that’s the absurd standard you’re setting

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u/Ballad_13 13h ago

Exactly. That means all of Venezuela supported their awful dictator, every single one of them. Same with Iran. Every last person, its their fault too.

Its a dumb argument to direct understandable anger and misplace it at someone that you can easily reach.

No one on this subreddit can direct their anger at someone from the American government, and have their anger be heard. So direct it at the average american, knowing full well the anger is misplaced, but at least someone listens.