r/ukraine • u/KI_official Ukraine Media • 21h ago
News 'This cannot be a coincidence' — Ukraine's Starlink access restricted without warning, Zelensky adviser says
https://kyivindependent.com/this-cannot-be-a-coincidence-ukraines-starlink-access-restricted-without-warning-zelensky-adviser-says/215
u/reader4567890 19h ago
I never thought in my lifetime that I'd see America turn so viciously on its long term allies in favour of it's enemies... but here we are.
Musk has been wanting to help Russia for a long time, so this isn't a surprise either. He's a cunt, his puppet master is a cunt, and his puppet master's puppet master is a cunt.
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u/AvadaCandelabra 14h ago
Man, why on earth do we need to use women’s body parts to insult all these horrible men.
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u/Korps_de_Krieg 13h ago
If it balances it for you, they are absolute dicks as well.
Pretty much every body part is an insult in the right tone
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u/Sure-Distance-7434 11h ago
These are all men, after all.
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u/_Hawkeyes_ 20h ago
They’re going to help Putin out as much as possible before trump gets neutered in the midterms.
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u/Dutch-cooking-guy 19h ago
The bot farms help Trump stay in office, Ukrainian drones destroy the bot farms so Trump orders starlink to tune down so bot farms can stay up.
Elon is willing because he also makes money on the botfarms on twitter.
For me no tesla or anything related to Musk.36
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u/Reasonable_Study_882 19h ago edited 19h ago
Elon Musk is going to destroy spaceX because he is incapable of seeing more than a couple of years ahead. He is doing a personal favor to Trump but every country in the world will want replacement for US services for security reasons.
Good luck convincing India to sign contract with starlink after this shitshow.
Europe should urgently change all services to Euro satellite comms like Eutelsat.
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u/Electronic_Local2088 20h ago
hey let's vote for a whole clan of blackmailable paedos, sexual trafficers, traitors and outright idiots to lead the country, what could go wrong?
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u/Due_Razzmatazz7364 20h ago
Europe needs to build it's alternative
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u/UnfortunatelySimple 20h ago edited 19h ago
Once I had a wait list for Starlink, and a Tesla coming as well, then Elon showed his colours and I cancelled all the shit.
I understand why Urkanie is using it, but you other users need to cancel that shit.
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u/sorE_doG 19h ago
100%
I was onto Apartheid Clyde from the moment he accused the cave rescue specialist of being a pedo. Shitty low down behaviour & a really gross abuse of power.
I dug in & discovered a lot of nefarious shit he’d already done & continued to do.. I left Xitter around the day his takeover went through. He’s an evil criminal, born in a dysfunctional dynasty of evil criminals.
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u/Minute-Plantain 9h ago
That was weird, wasn't it? Its when he got on my radar as "that boy ain't right".
Why on earth did he attack a diver with such a baseless accusation just because they rejected his proposal of an improvised manned sub?
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u/sorE_doG 5h ago
Which, for anyone who has ever done a caving trip would know, is a wild & unwieldy idea. It’s hard enough to haul a kitbag through some points, in the most recreational caving trips.
He suggested drilling down & lowering his sub or something? The jackass never considered the possibility of caving in the passage & sealing them in there way tighter than the water. He’s no engineer.
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u/maveric101 14h ago
To be a hipster, I hated Muskrat before it was cool. Turns out self-aggrandizing billionaires who are desperate for public validation probably aren't awesome people. Playing into the whole "he's real-life Tony Stark" thing, the "flamethrower" thing, etc... people ate it up, but it struck me as really lame.
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u/Ok_Tie_7564 21h ago
Betrayed by Americans. Correction, betrayed by Krasnov (acting on Putler's orders).
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u/Ascomae Germany 20h ago
No the first was correct.
Three Americans allowed this. There are no general strikes. No serious protests. Nothing
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u/CrazyMildred 18h ago
I'm American and I agree that all of us should be in the streets protesting every single day. A lot of us are doing what we can to fight against them, but it takes more than a few thousand of us. We ALL need to fight them! We DO need a general strike, but I fear not enough of us would do it to make a difference. My family is willing to do it.
A lot of us are voting against them in our midterm elections and I hope that enough of us will vote against them so that musk and krasnov's efforts to rig the election will fail. We need massive numbers of people to fight against them. A lot of us are willing to fight, but it seems not enough of us are and it disgusts me.
Every member of krasnov's regime needs to be in prison for crimes against humanity!
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u/Ballad_13 18h ago
No, the first wasnt correct and you know it.
Weve been betrayed by our own government and citizens are being executed by ICE during protests.
Direct your anger where it rightfully goes, the american government, and not at its citizens. Americans stand with Ukraine. We arent a hivemind monolith.
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u/INITMalcanis 17h ago
Direct your anger where it rightfully goes, the american government, and not at its citizens.
Trump wasn't installed by military force. He was voted in by a majority. He's the symptom, not the disease.
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u/Ok_Vulva 17h ago
Elon musk used psychological warfare techniques to manipulate the slow and gulible on the platform he bought, and literally cut off access to the internet out of anger over ukraine destroying his bot army. The bot army that pumps him up. Went from a normal of 80k likes to 6k.
And according to Trump, he fucked with the election computers too.
We didn't vote for the loser, some of our parents did because their stupid sure, but no. It wasn't a normal election
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u/Korps_de_Krieg 13h ago
No he wasn’t? 22% of the overall American population voted for him, only 31.6% of voting age people. There is zero world you spin those numbers as “the majority wanted him”.
Our electoral system is fucked and has essentially paved a way for only 1 in 5 Americans to want someone to be President and that be enough, because every effort has been made for decades to disenfranchise voters and make people more likely to vote for liberal policies less likely to vote. Pretending this is some simple “Americans are just evil losers” write off is so disingenuous to the actual realities most Americans face when engaging their civil liberties.
But no, the majority of Americans didn’t want him a second time. I think a fair number of people thought there was no way he’d get through a second time and honestly stayed home. That was a fucking tragic mistake, but that isn’t the same as actively wanting him in office and you know that.
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u/Xenomemphate 11h ago
There is zero world you spin those numbers as “the majority wanted him”.
I am sorry to tell you this, all the non-voters can be considered to having wanted this, they never opposed it after all. They do not get a free pass for their apathy. That brings up the "number that wanted this" to around 70% of the population. They had a chance to take a stand and decided not to.
Active or passive support, it doesn't matter, it is still support.
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u/Korps_de_Krieg 10h ago
Cool, then every single person in Europe who didn’t vote explicitly supports their right wing parties ideologically because that’s the absurd standard you’re setting
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u/Ballad_13 10h ago
Exactly. That means all of Venezuela supported their awful dictator, every single one of them. Same with Iran. Every last person, its their fault too.
Its a dumb argument to direct understandable anger and misplace it at someone that you can easily reach.
No one on this subreddit can direct their anger at someone from the American government, and have their anger be heard. So direct it at the average american, knowing full well the anger is misplaced, but at least someone listens.
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u/Soonerpalmetto88 19h ago
This isn't Germany. We'll be killed if we try anything. Or have you not heard of the Americans they've killed already for protesting? Anything seen as widespread uprising will result in mass shootings of civilians. Be thankful that you live in a free and safe country.
We're working through Congress and the courts to stop at least the diesel purchases. We'll succeed, as we have on many other matters. And next month, he will lose most of his power. Until then, all we can do is keep sending you our money, which we will.
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u/Ascomae Germany 18h ago
Sending money?
The United States makes a ton of money from the PURL purchases. Every single patriot missile Ukraine uses is paid for by others. The US is an arms dealer. No more, no less.
Right now you are sending money to Russia to buy Iranian diesel for... What exactly? The US is a diesel exporting country.
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u/Soonerpalmetto88 13h ago
I meant the money sent by regular US citizens to Nova Ukraine and other efforts to directly support them. Not what the government's doing. We give money, we send clothes, we've sent drones. Some of us have chosen to go and fight, others fight by resisting misinformation and propaganda efforts or by directly lobbying our elected officials to get them to do more. Whatever our government has done, our people haven't abandoned Ukraine.
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u/CrazyMildred 17h ago
Ukraine is not a safe country. They are killed by russia every day. That's not safe. We have to do more! We need a general strike here. We need to vote in numbers that can't be rigged. If millions of us protest, they can't kill all of us! There are more of us than there are of them. I realize that they have tanks, drones and guns. But we HAVE to do something to fight against this regime!
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u/ThisGameTooHard 19h ago
Maybe you should ask Congress to remove that 2nd amendment you're too concerned to use, since its only use seems to be justifying school shootings nowadays.
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u/PerthlyPerson 18h ago
Well that's the choice. Die on your feet or live on your knees. Don't be surprised if no one respects you for choosing the later.
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u/Diligent-Luck4331 16h ago
You meant "Pal Laich" (A meme about putler name being pronounced wrong alot of times).
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u/INITMalcanis 17h ago
Yeah, the Trump regime will be PISSED about those data center strikes. Those were a direct attack on the propaganda support they were relying on.
Hit em again, Ukraine.
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u/sMilling_70 20h ago
When you're failing at war, it's easy to make others fail if you have the power. The US is run by incompetent imbeciles.
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u/snake_case_captain 19h ago
Looks like somebody's angry after those datacenters went down just before the midterms
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u/Colbert2020 20h ago
It is a sickening betrayal. America will be cursed by every Ukrainian and it is deserved.
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u/BannedbyDemons 19h ago
You're still way above water because of the assistance you have gotten. Krasnov's bullshit is gutwrenching for the majority of us.
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u/TransplantedSconie 18h ago
Ukraine needs to target every data center they can and blow them all up. If they can neuter the bot network Russia has used to interfere with western democracy it will be a game changer.
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u/Inglorious555 16h ago
Remember when people were praising Musk for turning it on in the first place? I said it would be foolish to do so because he could switch it off at any moment but I had people disagree with me and downvote me lol
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u/JesradSeraph 18h ago
Do you want your corporate assets in the EU placed under emergency public administration for “force majeure” ? Because that’s one way to speedrun it.
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u/barktwiggs 16h ago
Musk saw his bot follower traffic disappear and had to intervene. He cares more about fake likes than real lives.
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u/Minute-Plantain 9h ago
He must know that whatever hes doing online is having real world impact. It frightens me that AfD did as well as it did simply because it got an amplifier courtesy of El0b dough.
Ive long suspected hes a Russian stooge like Tr8mp. But the fact that the disruption of the bot farm seems to have hit X pretty hard cements it.
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u/OnundTreefoot 16h ago
Exactly: if you mess with Elon's bot farms in Russia then you lose access. Elon is a scourge on democracies.
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u/Equivalent-Resort-63 15h ago
This was probably expected. Hope they have a backup plan as musk and the orange goon continue to fuck stuff up.
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u/Jensen1994 11h ago
In the UK we should slap a 45% tariff on Tesla - forget about Chinese cars. Elon Musk is an enemy of mankind.
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u/Important-Anywhere20 12h ago
It’s Musk turning political again.
Poland paid the Starlink in advance and still he cut it off. Looks like they are all pissed about losing a part of their bot farm from Yandex.
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u/Prestigious-Tree-424 20h ago
Elon has provided fantastic support for Ukraine upto now...........let's hope it continues.
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