So I have been experimenting with 4 ho det. Ive tried multiple different doses through out and I have noticed quite a few differences in how the substance seems to work atleast for me and my body and tolerance.

The normal dose for det is usually 10 to 12 mg.

3mg- broke a 12mg tablet into 4 for the first time trying it. 3mg took about 30 mins to hit and it was a very mild feeling. It had mood lift qualities as well as energy and stimulation but not a lot. It lasted about 2.5 hours the mood lift and stimulation lasted the enter time and it was a very mild come down almost not noticeable and I was able to sleep easy

6mg dose-half a tablet this was noticeable stronger. More stimulation more energy more positive mood boost it lasted about half an hour longer. I definitely could feel it more and the stimulation was almost on par with a 10mg dose of adderall. It was good for going out for a walk down to an area which had cool shops and old houses and to sit in a coffee shop

12mg dose- this dose definitely became more psychedelic. There was the mood boost which was eay more noticeable as well as the stimulation that came with it was super energetic I wanted to dance and game and write it brought out a really creative clear headspace. I ended up writing almost the full first chapter of my book as well as enjoyed listening to music and watching movies

24mg dose- this dose definitely is where it got super trippy. I felt emotions I had a bit of introspection but at the same time I had a clear headspace and was able to function. On this dose I did notice that it did cut my appetite considerably compared to the 3, 6, and 12 mg doses which compared to something like 4 ho met which makes me hungry was the one side effect I would say is unpleasant. I also noticed some jaw clenching and teeth grinding as well as some nausea on the come up if taken on an empty stomach. This dose lasts about 6 hours.

Over all I would say that this substances is definitely one of the more stimulating psychedelics ive taken id say the stimulation for me at higher doses is almost on par with mdma and lsd both which make me wanna be active and move around.

It has some light introspection but at the same time a very calm easy headspace and has good visuals if you get them. I dont really get visuals as much anymore so I cant comment on those specificly. Id recommend this for a festival or a rave or even a night out with friends.

I just wanted to share my experience with this novel substance for anyone that is curious about it. I will say you can always take more you can never take less. You are able to redose this if desired but its not always needed.

If anyone else has taken this substance id love to hear your experiences with it as well!

This was a few years ago, i have a close friend that lives in a different state and every time we’ve ever hung out we always go all out. Always go bigger than before. And so this time he was coming down for work but afterwards had a day or 2 to spare. So he bought 10 acid tabs, 5 for each. And we went to The Getty museum in LA.. obviously to trip and see cool art. So we take it in the parking lot and head inside. It didn’t start hitting me until later i was in this art room with huge red paintings and lots of ppl around and i suddenly started seeing the paintings move and all the ppl became like ppl in suits just watching our every move and judging so i had to escape and went out to this outdoors area and there I don’t know how to explain it but i saw in the sky and all around this elephant being with multiple arms and it was like meditating, everything was made of it if that makes sense. I was going through alot in my head at the time, i broke down in tears to my friend, and he decided i needed to sit down so we did and i couldn’t hold it together and eventually threw up everywhere. Basically they kicked us out, literally dragged us all the way out and followed us to my car, they waited for us to drive off. My friend was tripping and so was i but i had to escape again so i drove, and i made it to the street and somehow didn’t crash i just kept driving and driving until something stopped me idk how but we eventually ended up at santa monica and we got out and i felt like such a feline idk how to explain it i felt so sexy and free lol i lost my friend at the pier and couldn’t find him for like an hour or more and when i found him we were coming down already and we were trying to chill out. Definitely had a blast! This was a shortened version of my story lol