r/sanpedrocactus • • 21d ago

Please stop telling people to go to /r/mescaline with any questions about San Pedro use.

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Please stop telling people to go to [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) with any questions about San Pedro use. These questions are totally appropriate here. [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) is fine for some things but that sub tends to be more focused on mescaline molecule and usually into extractions. Huachuma/San Pedro cactus is much much much more than just the mescaline. Sending people asking about ceremonial use of San Pedro to a sub that’s about just one molecule in the cactus and more focused on extractions is not the go.

I know the rules can be a bit confusing but it is not against the rules for people to post about or ask about San Pedro experiences here, especially for educational and harm reduction reasons.


r/sanpedrocactus • • Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

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So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

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Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

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This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

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The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

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We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

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Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

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#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

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The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

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 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

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Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

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Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

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#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

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Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

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Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

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#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

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Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

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Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

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It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

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#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

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Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

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Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

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Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

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Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

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Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

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#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

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 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

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Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

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Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

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Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

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Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

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Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

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If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

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Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 4h ago

This is a new account I was AustinL5 making post to get some karma so I can post in sales page. Here is some of my collection

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 12h ago

Hard to see it since Reddit hides the subscriber count now so it snuck passed me, but we surpassed 100,000 people! Crazy watching this sub grow over the years just 7 years ago there were only 3000 of us here.

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

ID Request Found in San Francisco

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Not going to cut it, just curious which one it is. Also just sharing a beautiful specimen


r/sanpedrocactus • • 6h ago

Picture A vari pretty Icaros

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 11h ago

Log tech is really just wait time tech😎

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Question Variegation or nahhhhh

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Been watching this pup on my Sharxx x tpqc and I’m ready to ask the mob if I should graft it. Whaddaya think?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 14h ago

Meme 🥺👉👈

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Accessability Transcription:

A Bobcat climbing a columnar cactus with it's cat butt facing the camera making intense eye contact.

And text saying "Me trying to flirt: So do you like cactus?"


r/sanpedrocactus • • 9h ago

Some grafted yearlings and rootstock out in the sun

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

The winds are a sonofabitch today.

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I just had three massive columns fall over and miraculously not damage any of the mutants below them. This stab wound was the only casualty (so far, looks like the winds will continue on through Saturday 😞)


r/sanpedrocactus • • 12h ago

Picture I was really excited about my triple pup tpm. So were the local rats. 🐀 🫠

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 15h ago

Variegated Daedalus

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Daedalus is a variegated T. peruvianus discovered, isolated, and propagated by Prickocereus . The seed grown variegated Icaro DNA Matucana peruvianus. Glaucous blue over patterned green and yellow epidermis. Yellow spines coming out of undulating tubercles.

Daedalus the mythilogical character, inventor, architect, craftsman, and father of Icarus.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

A REAL TBM BUSCH!!!

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

Lizards getting funky

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I have a couple twin lizards that decided they wanted the same haircut along with a few others. All my grafts came from one plant that hadn’t shown any signs of weirdness. My favorite is the lone lizard showing that classic 🦎 👑 funk.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 4h ago

Went to buy a mallachts bbb bargain box.

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Was 76 normally, then it raised to 91. so I found his code bonvoyage20, was 91 shipped with code, then the box went up to 115 3 minutes later and was 107 shipped

I emailed to ask whats with that?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

Picture A few of my cuttings before I put them away for winter

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They were looking very nice


r/sanpedrocactus • • 3h ago

Upside down?

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Can you guys tell me which way to plant this guy


r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

Fatten up the middle

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Does anyone have any tips on fattening up the middle? The tips and pups are doing just fine, but I want that thickness in the middle. I water inconsistently but usually at least once a week. I fertilize a few times a month with either rabbit pellet tea, pee, cactus juice or kelp, and occasionally I’ll add some cal mag in there. I just dosed w silica, but not sure if that’s even necessary. I planted in ground about 6 months ago. I live in California so it’s been a hot summer. It gets sun from morning to mid afternoon. Do I need to water more? Wait to see if they plump back up over winter when growth slows down? Chop a larger column or two to force energy to the other columns?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 9h ago

Trichocereus Bridgesii "Achuma"

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Saint Peter in Natimuk, Australia 🇦🇺


r/sanpedrocactus • • 6h ago

What’s with the black spots? How do I fix it? Tropical jungle environment.

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 9h ago

Oscar x TPC seedling

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Can't wait to see what this does over the next year or so!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

Water tek!

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So I had this 2 inch tip that hadn't rooted and decided to try something i saw here and submerged the bottom 2mm in water for 2 days on and 1 day to dry over the course of a month and it eventually popped

bonus root porn attached


r/sanpedrocactus • • 22m ago

Freak coming in!

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This thing is growing with some crazy potential off of a random 4 ribbed NOID! Hope it continues doing what it’s doing! Haha


r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Question need karma to post on selling sub

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