I'm thinking of the forms -ё/онок->я́та. I just came across these, and have a couple of questions.
1.Are the plural forms ребя́там, ребя́тами, ребя́тах used? Or is it mostly the corresponding forms of дети instead?
Is щенки́ or щеня́та (and their corresponding forms) more commonly used?
How commonly used are these words and their plural forms formed with -я́та?
- Тигрёнок
- Медвежонок
- Волчонок
- Лягушонок
- Слонёнок
- Утёнок
- Гусёнок
- цыплёнок
Are they always used with the traditional plural? Can't you say *Слонёнки? Everything that ends with -ёнок, онок will be pluralized with the form я́та, is that correct?
They're used with collectives. If I understand correctly, you don't use the simple numerals, but the collectives when counting them. So not *два маленьких львёнка, but двое, трое, четверо, пятеро etc. львя́т. Is that right? Same goes, for the words дети, ребята.
But these collectives also have their own declension. E.g. "двоих цыплят", and двоим, двоими instead of двум, двумя, etc. Are these declensions in use? So if you say, "with five little chicks", do you say "с двумя цыпля́тами" or "с двоими цыпля́тами"?
I found these collectives til 10, but not above that. So there's десяток, but are there any corresponding forms 11-20 and above? Such as одиннадцатеро, двенадцатеро etc? (I actually found an interesting article about this.)
For example the phrase '20 kids' is translated by google translate as двадцать детей. But "a hundred kids" translates as сотня or сто детей? And if it's сотня, then how is it declined? Because it has both plural and singular declension apparently: https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8F
If 'with a hundred kids' becomes "со сотней детей", then what is "со́тнями" used for?
+1: Have I told you guys that your grammar is crazy, and you are causing insurmountable suffering for learners? Why the hell does this language needs so many forms of numerals?
+2: I just realized that десяток is a different thing from десятка
+3: I also realized that both of these are different from десятеро. I think it's enough for me for the day. This language is... I don't even wanna get started. If anyone says German is hard, punch them in the face in Russian.