Quarter million views in 24 hours bro 🫩✌️
Genuinely am against gatekeeping but flooding this sub and the factories is only going to increase prices and wait times, we already have wait lists at AD’s man

which ones will you buy?

1 month left!

Received ORF's new free sprung SMP300 2 days ago after waiting 4 weeks for delivery because the box sat in a warehouse for the first 2 weeks (thanks China National Day)

Firstly, shout out to Hontwatch, my primary TD. I've bought from Trustytime, Ficotime and a local Australian vendor called VarietyGiftsAU and now I pretty much only buy from Hont or Trusty if Hont can't source something. He's an excellent TD if you don't ask too many questions and know exactly what you are after.

I'll break up my review into a few main points for ease of reading, and there will be a TLDR at the bottom.

<<Bezel Action>>

It's firmer than VSF's bezel action and the sound is noticeably softer. I have owned a gen 2015 SMP300 and I would say the loudness of a gen is somewhere in between VSF and ORF, but the action is closer to ORF.

<<Bracelet>>

VSF's bracelet (at least on the 2 that I have) is better stock. The ORF bracelet edges are quite sharp, and the clasp action is stiffer and slightly more rattley. A simple chamfer will fix the edges and I doused the clasp in PTFE dry lube, let it dry and wiped off the residue. It's much better with these simple fixes. ORF provided a free rubber strap too.

<<Movement>>

The TG numbers showed +10s/d during QC. Using the watch accuracy app and wired headphones, I measured the watch in dial up, dial down, crown up and crown down positions. Numbers are included. No regulation necessary as all were <5s/d. The watch beats at 28800 bph and doesn't feature a coaxial escapement so there is the main difference from gen.

The bunny ears are gone and I have included a photo of the gen movement from Susan Reviews that shows the primary difference between ORF and gen balance wheels. If you didn't know about these engravings, this looks very close to the real deal.

The winding and time setting action is night and day compared to VSF. There is heft to it and a very satisfying feel when winding. Pretty much no comparison and it's very close to gen feel when winding.

<<Case and Water Resistance>>

ORF claims full diving capabilities and a working HEV. I have no idea how I'm going to test that because I do not dive recreationally outside of beach/pool swimming and some free diving here and there. The movement came with a good rubber gasket but it looked a little dry so I waterproof serviced the watch when I opened it. It passed a 5 bar water resistance test afterwards. ORF does not have the stubby crown guard issue that has plagued VSF SMPs. The crystal is perfectly clear and is on par with VSF.

<<My QC issues>>

ORF has a problem with centering the Omega symbol, but it's so small and the wave dials and 12 markers draw the eye so it isn't that noticeable. It is more prevalent on some colours than others. Also, on ONLY the grey dial, some of the wave etchings end a fraction of a millimetre shorter than on gen or VSF. That issue does not exist on any other model.

<<TLDR>>

Great watch. It'll be my favourite for a while. Better case and movement than VSF. Better colour accuracy than VSF for some models. Allegedly fully waterproof and dive-capable.

ZF Black Bay Coke purchased from the Shenzhen Watch market last week

1sf wrist roll video, how did I do?

My experience with Andiot – An honest review
Hey everyone! Today, I wanted to share my personal experience with Andiot and how I perceived the entire process.

A little background: I got into the rep game in 2021 and bought my very first VSF DJ from another TD. After purchasing a Tudor and another Daytona from the same dealer, I switched to Andiot.
I was already aware of the many negative reviews about Andiot and the various issues people have reported. I’m not here to dismiss anyone else’s experience, but I also think it’s unfair to assume that everyone will have a bad experience with him. My experience has actually been very positive.

Communication was excellent from the beginning. Andiot always replied within minutes, hours, or at most a couple of days. I also really appreciate his VSF ordering policy, which allows you to wait for QC before paying. Considering how competitive his prices are compared to other TDs, I think that’s a great gesture.

Of course, this policy also means that many people can place orders without paying upfront, potentially creating a huge backlog. VSF is one of the most popular factories, and with Clean Factory no longer operating, demand is understandably high. Production capacity is limited, and we’ve also seen discussions about potential declines in VSF’s quality control due to the sheer volume of orders. Long waiting times are frustrating, but I think it’s important to distinguish factory-related delays from a TD’s customer service.

Regarding my own order, the QC process worked perfectly. I received my QC pictures, had time to inspect the watch, and could decide whether I wanted to proceed. I even requested a specific modification, which Andiot handled very well. Before shipping, I received another QC for the modification itself and had the option to reject it, but it was Fine for me.

Some people will probably point out that the rehaut alignment on my watch isn’t great. That’s fair. However, the dial is from Buff, not VSF, and I’ve seen similar alignment issues before. I knowingly accepted the imperfection because it was something I could live with.

Shipping was also excellent. Tracking worked perfectly, and I received the watch in Europe in less than two weeks.
I’ve actually ordered two watches from Andiot: a VSF OP and a VSF Oyster Perpetual. Both orders went smoothly, with great communication and fast shipping once the watches were ready.

My conclusion: Competitive prices, excellent communication, a smooth QC process, and surprisingly fast delivery. I’m not saying everyone will have the same experience, and I don’t want to invalidate anyone else’s complaints. But personally, I can’t complain about the service I’ve received.

I’ll definitely order from Andiot again.
If you have any questions about my experience, feel free to ask!

Just be aware of that: If You buy a VSF, You May have to wait several Weeks or longer. I had to wait 4 Weeks each After placing the order.

Andiots service was excellent. Took 2 days for QC, watch got to me within 14 days👍

Ref: M79030N-0001

My all time favourite VSF Rolex Datejust 41mm 126334.

The quality is insane I am very happy that I bought it.

I have 20+ watches and This Watch is my Daily you Can wear it to every Outfit, the Watch will make it Special.

I bought it from Michael Travis (+86 137 5175 2832)

If you have any questions feel free to dm me 🤝

I recently bought a VSV replacement bezel for my VSF Rolex Daytona 116520 because I felt the original bezel’s engraving was one of the biggest tells compared to the genuine watch.

Looking at these close-up photos, I think the VSV bezel looks much closer to gen, particularly the font, engraving depth, and the “UNITS PER HOUR” text.

But I’d like to hear other people’s opinions, especially from those who own or have handled a genuine 116520.

What do you guys think? Does the VSV bezel look closer to the genuine bezel, or am I just seeing what I want to see?

Honest opinions welcome!

My gen Daytona 116509…

this watch goes nuts 😜

What's on everybody's wrist today?

From Andiot:
Paid: USD$518 ex. shipping
Waiting time: 2.5 weeks incl QC

Again, super impressed and happy with the quality and care in the delivery for this product.

Thank you Elliot!

Mods include:

Updated case

Aftermarket dial

SW hands and date-wheel

Tiffany stamp

Gen spec brushing & polishing

End links modded

Ultra clone movement

22k rotor

Movement overhaul

Deep crystal

Honestly this is NWBIG. My friend has the gen green one and we compared them side by side and it blew his mind.

Threw this on an Aliexpress strap and loving this piece. Just need to figure how to stop the little voice in the back of my brain that says you gotta get them all now

One’s $500, the other one’s $100. Can you even tell the difference anymore?

I’ve had this gen Datejust for nearly two decades now, and it’s still my favorite. We’ve been through so many great memories together, and it has never let me down. I always find myself appreciating the classic look of this older version especially the clean, non-engraved rehaut and that perfect sunburst blue dial.

Hi everyone,

First time buyer looking for the best TD with the best quality if anyone can help would be appreciated! Have 2 gens wife has had enough and said no more lol

Hi everyone I found a good deal for a second hand vsf but the seller only has the serial number does anyone know if this is a legit vsf serial number or what are the other things to check if its a legit vsf

Hi all, I am looking for a replacement bracelet for my vsf 126610ln. Am I right saying vsf don’t make these and buy them elsewhere? Where would I find just the bracelet that they use? Or good alternative? Thanks!

I’m currently considering buying an ARF Datejust and was wondering if they’ve fixed the date wheel issues by now.

From what I’ve read, there used to be two main problems:

1. The date font/numbers were too bold compared to gen.
   
2. The date didn’t snap over instantly at midnight, but changed more gradually or at the wrong time.

Does anyone know what the current situation is with the latest ARF batches? Have either of these issues been fixed?

Would especially appreciate feedback from people who recently bought an ARF DJ.

Hello all -

Which sodalite dial do you like more and why?

I would appreciate the input and thank you 😊