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From Andiot:
Paid: USD$518 ex. shipping
Waiting time: 2.5 weeks incl QC

Again, super impressed and happy with the quality and care in the delivery for this product.

Thank you Elliot!

My experience with Andiot – An honest review
Hey everyone! Today, I wanted to share my personal experience with Andiot and how I perceived the entire process.

A little background: I got into the rep game in 2021 and bought my very first VSF DJ from another TD. After purchasing a Tudor and another Daytona from the same dealer, I switched to Andiot.
I was already aware of the many negative reviews about Andiot and the various issues people have reported. I’m not here to dismiss anyone else’s experience, but I also think it’s unfair to assume that everyone will have a bad experience with him. My experience has actually been very positive.

Communication was excellent from the beginning. Andiot always replied within minutes, hours, or at most a couple of days. I also really appreciate his VSF ordering policy, which allows you to wait for QC before paying. Considering how competitive his prices are compared to other TDs, I think that’s a great gesture.

Of course, this policy also means that many people can place orders without paying upfront, potentially creating a huge backlog. VSF is one of the most popular factories, and with Clean Factory no longer operating, demand is understandably high. Production capacity is limited, and we’ve also seen discussions about potential declines in VSF’s quality control due to the sheer volume of orders. Long waiting times are frustrating, but I think it’s important to distinguish factory-related delays from a TD’s customer service.

Regarding my own order, the QC process worked perfectly. I received my QC pictures, had time to inspect the watch, and could decide whether I wanted to proceed. I even requested a specific modification, which Andiot handled very well. Before shipping, I received another QC for the modification itself and had the option to reject it, but it was Fine for me.

Some people will probably point out that the rehaut alignment on my watch isn’t great. That’s fair. However, the dial is from Buff, not VSF, and I’ve seen similar alignment issues before. I knowingly accepted the imperfection because it was something I could live with.

Shipping was also excellent. Tracking worked perfectly, and I received the watch in Europe in less than two weeks.
I’ve actually ordered two watches from Andiot: a VSF OP and a VSF Oyster Perpetual. Both orders went smoothly, with great communication and fast shipping once the watches were ready.

My conclusion: Competitive prices, excellent communication, a smooth QC process, and surprisingly fast delivery. I’m not saying everyone will have the same experience, and I don’t want to invalidate anyone else’s complaints. But personally, I can’t complain about the service I’ve received.

I’ll definitely order from Andiot again.
If you have any questions about my experience, feel free to ask!

Just be aware of that: If You buy a VSF, You May have to wait several Weeks or longer. I had to wait 4 Weeks each After placing the order.

Honestly this is NWBIG. My friend has the gen green one and we compared them side by side and it blew his mind.

Threw this on an Aliexpress strap and loving this piece. Just need to figure how to stop the little voice in the back of my brain that says you gotta get them all now

Mods include:

Updated case

Aftermarket dial

SW hands and date-wheel

Tiffany stamp

Gen spec brushing & polishing

End links modded

Ultra clone movement

22k rotor

Movement overhaul

Deep crystal

this watch goes nuts 😜

What's on everybody's wrist today?

Quarter million views in 24 hours bro 🫩✌️
Genuinely am against gatekeeping but flooding this sub and the factories is only going to increase prices and wait times, we already have wait lists at AD’s man

Volume dropped a video where he went to a bunch of 47th St. dealers and ask them to guess which was the gen and which was the rep on AP 26240 black ceramic. Was surprisingly close rep to gen. Any guesses on which factory?

This is just a Stock photo for conversation.

video link

Received ORF's new free sprung SMP300 2 days ago after waiting 4 weeks for delivery because the box sat in a warehouse for the first 2 weeks (thanks China National Day)

Firstly, shout out to Hontwatch, my primary TD. I've bought from Trustytime, Ficotime and a local Australian vendor called VarietyGiftsAU and now I pretty much only buy from Hont or Trusty if Hont can't source something. He's an excellent TD if you don't ask too many questions and know exactly what you are after.

I'll break up my review into a few main points for ease of reading, and there will be a TLDR at the bottom.

<<Bezel Action>>

It's firmer than VSF's bezel action and the sound is noticeably softer. I have owned a gen 2015 SMP300 and I would say the loudness of a gen is somewhere in between VSF and ORF, but the action is closer to ORF.

<<Bracelet>>

VSF's bracelet (at least on the 2 that I have) is better stock. The ORF bracelet edges are quite sharp, and the clasp action is stiffer and slightly more rattley. A simple chamfer will fix the edges and I doused the clasp in PTFE dry lube, let it dry and wiped off the residue. It's much better with these simple fixes. ORF provided a free rubber strap too.

<<Movement>>

The TG numbers showed +10s/d during QC. Using the watch accuracy app and wired headphones, I measured the watch in dial up, dial down, crown up and crown down positions. Numbers are included. No regulation necessary as all were <5s/d. The watch beats at 28800 bph and doesn't feature a coaxial escapement so there is the main difference from gen.

The bunny ears are gone and I have included a photo of the gen movement from Susan Reviews that shows the primary difference between ORF and gen balance wheels. If you didn't know about these engravings, this looks very close to the real deal.

The winding and time setting action is night and day compared to VSF. There is heft to it and a very satisfying feel when winding. Pretty much no comparison and it's very close to gen feel when winding.

<<Case and Water Resistance>>

ORF claims full diving capabilities and a working HEV. I have no idea how I'm going to test that because I do not dive recreationally outside of beach/pool swimming and some free diving here and there. The movement came with a good rubber gasket but it looked a little dry so I waterproof serviced the watch when I opened it. It passed a 5 bar water resistance test afterwards. ORF does not have the stubby crown guard issue that has plagued VSF SMPs. The crystal is perfectly clear and is on par with VSF.

<<My QC issues>>

ORF has a problem with centering the Omega symbol, but it's so small and the wave dials and 12 markers draw the eye so it isn't that noticeable. It is more prevalent on some colours than others. Also, on ONLY the grey dial, some of the wave etchings end a fraction of a millimetre shorter than on gen or VSF. That issue does not exist on any other model.

<<TLDR>>

Great watch. It'll be my favourite for a while. Better case and movement than VSF. Better colour accuracy than VSF for some models. Allegedly fully waterproof and dive-capable.

Andiots service was excellent. Took 2 days for QC, watch got to me within 14 days👍

Ref: M79030N-0001

ZF Black Bay Coke purchased from the Shenzhen Watch market last week

1sf wrist roll video, how did I do?

Been going back and forth on my rubber strap vs steel on my SMP300 Rep, rubber is way more comfortable but something just makes it pop more with the steel,b what do we think?

Beautiful watch

Received my 5 digit TMF Kermit yesterday and it’s an instant classic. The sub hype makes sense.

First off, a huge shoutout to Steve at TheOneWatches!
Ordered my first rep on September 24th, and it arrived today, October 15th. From start to finish, the entire process couldn’t have been easier. Communication was great, everything went smoothly, and I’m extremely happy with how it turned out.
Went with the Omega Seamaster 300M NTTD, and I’m looking forward to getting it on the wrist tomorrow!
Definitely a great first experience getting into the rep world. Thanks again to Steve and the team at TheOneWatches!
What do you guys think?

One’s $500, the other one’s $100. Can you even tell the difference anymore?

(Rephrased my messy / broken English previous post!)

Hi everyone, long story short, I’m mainly a gen owner, and one of my first proper watches was a black ceramic GMT. A couple of years ago, before I knew anything about reps, I tried an older GMT at a shop, probably a 16710, and I remember being shocked by how cheap it felt compared to my 2010 GMT.

Currently rocking daily a gen vintage gold watch on strap, and I’d love to pair it with a sporty steel watch. The problem is, I’ve tried a few modern Rolex reps, and I just can’t get into them. I’m far from being a watchsmith, but somehow, I find it pretty obvious. The sound when you knock on the caseback, the little details, serial instant tell, rehaut, crystal, movement feeling, the hands, the engravings... I can’t help but feel like something is off.

I still think reps are amazing, though. I just think you have to be at peace with yourself when wearing one. If you’re constantly thinking about whether someone might notice, or comparing every little detail to a gen, what’s the point? You need to be able to enjoy it for what it is.

On the other hand, I know absolutely nothing about Seamasters, and my white ORF, which cost me £180, feels absolutely perfect to me. Maybe it’s just a matter of familiarity and knowing what to look for, but it’s funny how different the experience can be depending on the watch.

Anyway, back to the point. I want a nice steel sports watch, and I’ve been thinking about older GMTs. They don’t have that same overly polished, premium feel as modern Rolexes, which makes me wonder if this is where a good franken can actually get close enough to the real thing, at least in terms of how it feels on the wrist, something aged that say "probably 35y old, went though some non Rolex service, maybe a couple of aftermarket parts but yes most likely gen".

I’ve also considered going franken on a steel bezel Daytona 116520, but then you start looking at the serial, the case, the bracelet, the finishing, and all the little things that can give it away. It’s not even necessarily about someone spotting it, because realistically, most people wouldn’t. I’ve worn gens for years, most of which I eventually sold to fund other watches, so nobody would really question it. I wore Overseas, Reverso, Speedy... people would assume it was gen without giving it a second thought. With a modern Rolex, though, I feel like I’d always have that little voice in the back of my mind.

So what do you guys think about a 16710 franken compared to gen, especially in terms of feel, finishing and the overall experience of wearing it? Same question for a 1675 or older reference. I feel like I’ll never get the same satisfaction from a modern Rolex rep, but maybe the older references are a different story. Ironically, I just prefer the older references, even though I think modern Rolexes are built 10x better. Honestly, I’d say a VSF modern Sub is a much better watch overall than a gen 1675 ahah.

Picture is the end goal.

The build is currently in progress, being put together by an amazing modder who I’d recommend a hundred times over. OC V3 case, gen crown, tube, crystal and insert, with a custom dial and hands. I might still go gen dial and hands, haven’t decided yet!

Received this a month or two ago and I’ve been fairly impressed with it. The process with the TD was very smooth and I received this quickly (~2 weeks) after approving QC.

Let me know what yall think

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