r/pokemonconspiracies • • 11h ago

Gen 10 Pokémon Gen 10 Theory: Hoopa Is Connected to the Majin mechanic

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What if Hoopa's inclusion in Pokémon Legends: Z-A – Mega Dimension wasn't just about opening portals to Hyperspace Lumiose? What if it was actually foreshadowing Generation 10's next gimmick?

According to leaks, the next gimmick could be called Majin. What's interesting is that Hoopa is already known as the Djinn Pokémon, and its Japanese classification is Majin Pokémon. Could this be more than a coincidence?

Hoopa and the Next Gimmick

Hoopa has two forms: Confined and Unbound. Its Unbound form represents the release of power that was previously sealed away. In the animated movie, its dangerous power can even manifest as a separate dark entity.

This connects to my theory that Majin could be inspired by the anime trope of unleashing your inner demon.

Think Naruto releasing the Nine-Tails' power or Ichigo transforming into his Hollow form in Bleach. Rather than simply becoming stronger, a character unleashes something dangerous that already exists within them.

How This Fits Pokémon's Other Gimmicks

Pokémon's battle gimmicks often resemble familiar concepts from Japanese media:

- Mega Evolution: Similar to Super Saiyan transformations in Dragon Ball.

- Z-Moves: Like spectacular anime finishing attacks.

- Gigantamax: Resembles giant monster battles in Super Sentai and Power Rangers.

- Majin, potentially: Like characters unleashing their inner demons, revealing a darker or more primal form.

These are thematic comparisons, not confirmed inspirations. However, Majin could introduce a transformation concept distinct from the previous gimmicks.

My Theory

I believe Hoopa could either be directly responsible for Majin or represent the same type of power. Its Unbound form already embodies the idea of releasing a dangerous, suppressed power.

Perhaps Hoopa's inclusion in the Z-A DLC was deliberate foreshadowing, introducing players to a Pokémon whose lore will become relevant in Generation 10.

What if Majin allows Pokémon to unleash their inner power, and Hoopa Unbound is our earliest example of what that transformation could look like?

The leaks remain unconfirmed, but Hoopa's name, lore, and transformation make this an intriguing possibility.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 15h ago

Characters Origins of Hoopa

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We all know Hoopa, that mischievous genie who can make rings that can teleport things through different dimensions.

Of course, the question is: Where did he come from? And I don't mean what region he came from, I mean, how did he come into existence?

I remember reading a post from this sub-reedits very own Pokemon Professor Kiskeym2 about Hoopa

Near the end, they mention how Kami don't necessarily come from anywhere, they just exist as manifestations of concepts.

In the end of their post, Kiskeym2 says the following....

Hoopa Unbound category is Djinn Pokémon, in Japanese まじんポケモン [Majin Pokémon] - a “majin” is a more generic magical creature, but it can also refer to Djinn in particular. According to pre-Islamic Arabian folklore, these beings “originated as malevolent spirits residing in deserts and unclean places” [Legends of the Fire Spirits: Jinn and Genies from Arabia to Zanzibar; Robert Lebling; I.B.Tauris, 30 lug 2010], a concept Game Freak could have easily used as a basis for Hoopa as it has a direct equivalent in Shinto.

The concept of 穢れ [kegare], a word that express "uncleanness", "defilement", "impurity", refers to a state that could be reached as a natural reaction when making contact with certain sources of filth. Kegare naturally leads to 淀み [yodomi], "stagnation". In Shinto's culture, pools of stagnated water allow insects, invertebrates and other evil and distorted entities to spontaneously originate and proliferate in them.

So, it would be thematically fitting for the malevolent Hoopa to being born out of the stagnation of unclean waters flowing in an oasis in the middle of the desert, where its lair is said to be located - connecting both to Shinto’s folklore and Djinn's lore. To this day, however, there’s no way to tell if that’s the truth.

To add to this, what if it's not just unclean waters, but "unclean" or "impure" thoughts?

Hoopa is known for it's "avarice". Stealing treasures from rich kings and hording them.

Perhaps then, Hoopa is the manifestation of human greed.

We do see other examples of human emotions creating Pokemon, most notable with the Treasures of Ruins, a quartet of Pokemon created by man-made object empowered by feelings of resentment, hatred, fear and envy.

Whilst Hoopa is definitely not a Treasure of Ruin, it could still be a manifestation of a negative human emotion. In this case, greed.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 2d ago

World [Pokopia] The eight personification of human culture.

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Throughout the Pokemon series there have been many legendary and mythical pokemon who have influenced human culture.

There is the Lake Trio, who brought knowledge, emotion and willpower to all sentient beings. These three serves as he origin of sentience itself.

Legendary teachers

Whilst Pokemon are definitely sentient, being capable of thinking, feeling and acting, there is some debate on how "sapient" they are. I'd say that most Pokemon are about as sapient as a five year old child. Capable of communication and simple problem solving, but still less developed then a full grown human.

Some exceptions are various Legendary and Mythical pokemon. Which are just as intelligent as a mature human, if not more so. In fact, many of them personify human concepts. Just to name a few.

  • Shaymin - Gratitude
  • Reshiram - Truth
  • Zekrom - Ideals
  • Victini - Victory

We also have pokemon that influenced human culture.

Meloetta is said to have inspired many songs and dances. Given how it's based on muses, it could be the personification of song and dance itself.

Regigigas may have brought the concept of sculpture art with the creation of the regis. The regis them selves taught humans different types of construction, like stone masonry, igloo making and metallurgy.

Human invention

Of course, whilst the above pokemon kickstarted human development, most human concepts were probebly developed latter on by humans themselves. Sometimes by observing nature.

Whilst Conkeldurr's pokedex entry claims it taught humans how to make concrete, it is more likely humans simply developed concrete after observing the pokemon's behaviour. After all, Conkeldurr only uses concrete to make it's pillars. It was ultimately humans who came up with the idea to use it to build stronger houses.

Also, whilst Registeel may have possibly taught metallurgy, it was humans expanded up on it, for all kinds of inventions.

The eight teachers, who brought human culture to pokemon.

In Pokemon Pokopia, humans have left earth due to an unknown catastrophe. Pokemon are kept in storage, to be released when things improve.

It's up to the pokemon to rediscover human culture, and continue building in hopes the humans may return.

In the game, there are eight special pokemon, each representing a human concept.

  • Ditto - invention
  • Professor Tangrowth - science
  • Chef Dente - cooking
  • DJ Rotom - festivals
  • Smearguru - art
  • Tinkmaster - construction
  • Peakychu - assistive technology
  • Mosslax - prosperity

Most of these should be pretty obvious. But for others....

Tinkmaster being "construction" seems redundant, as other pokemon already had this ability. However, they can only lead construction of single one-floor buildings. Tinkmaster is needed to rebuild Sylph Co. tower.

Peackychu was tricky. She can't generate her own electricity, due to useing it to heal other electric pokemon. She can, however, absorb electricity from generators, to light up and area, and is the only pokemon to do so and helps Mosslax wake up. So, she's disabled, but uses technology to overcome it.

Mosslax has the power to warp reality every time you give it food. These make find things easier. It's worth noting that the things that wake them up are Ditto's invention, Tangrowth's science and Peakychu's assistive technology, all things that have allowed humans to prosper.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 2d ago

Gen 8 i made this and idk what is the naming style so idk

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 the kings of unnova fight like crybabies and split the og dragon in 4 wternatus being flung into outer space. he chills there for a while absorbing power. he then gets flung back in time by a fight between dialga and palkia or some crap. he is now 20000 years ago. he ricochets off paldea making tera crystals. and crashes in glaar leaving a trail of meteors containing the mega stones. . later az fires the ultimate weapon . releasing energy which wakes up eternatus. the weapons also hits miniors mutation them into deoxys


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 8d ago

Question Do Japanese fans know about the ditto is a failed experiment of mewtwo theory?

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it’s a good enough theory with lot of logic that maybe they heard about it.

whats the Pokémon theory sphere like in Japan.

also the ash Ho Oh ash theory is also pretty cool.

granted these are way old theories.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 9d ago

Objects The Pokédex is just AI slop

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Maybe not the most serious conspiracy.

When giving you the Pokédex in LGPE, Professor Oak specifically mentions the device automatically fills in data of any Pokémon you meet and catch. This implies that the theory the reason so many Pokédex entries seem like nonsense being because literal children are filling it out is false. The Pokédex itself is generating that data.

Terrible LLMs have been creating Pokédex entries since Oak created it, and it's been hallucinating information on a ton of Pokémon, potentially setting back Pokémon research years if researchers are taking it at face value. This ironically means Laventon's research with the Galaxy Team's survey corps is likely the most accurate and well researched Pokédex available, even though it predates the modern games by around 200 years and will therefore also make its own assumptions on things they don't fully understand.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 9d ago

Gen 5 So I did the math for Ghetsis's sentence.

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Hey guys. I was bored once and I was wondering... If Ghetsis, arguably Pokémon's worst villain, were to be charged for all of his crimes throughout BW, BW2, USUM, and the manga, what would his theoretical sentence be? So, I did a lot of math.

In the last volume of the BW Adventures manga, Ghetsis abducts six gym leaders plus Hawes. This is considered Kidnapping in the First Degree, since it lasted for more than 12 hours and an intent to terrorize, which breaks NY Penal Code 135.25, a Class A1 Felony. It has 25 years life imprisonment and fines of 100,000$ per count. Since he unlawfully imprisoned them, it breaks NYPC 135.10, a Class E Felony with 4 years in prison and 5,000 in fines per count. Also it's considered Reckless Endangerment in the 1st Degree when he left them there during his battles with Hilbert and N. 7 year sentence and 5,000$ fine. Then he coerced Lenora to give up the Dark Stone using Hawes, a ruling of Coercion 1st. That's another 7 years. (25 + 4) x 7 + (7 + 7) = 217 years in prison. (100,000 + 5,000)x7+5,000 = 740,000$ in fines.

Then, in the manga and in the games, Ghetsis committed murder in the 2nd degree (attempted) against the protagonist and against N 3 times combined. 25 years per count. He also coerced countless people into giving up their Pokémon. I'd say about 60 ish people based on the NPC counts from the cutscenes got forced to give up their Pokémon cuz of him. So that's again 7 years and $5,000 per count since that's the gain made from it. So it's hybrid, for each city he visited (Accumula, Castelia, Opelucid, and Driftveil), but fines are applied per person. Then he literally neglected three children (N, Concordia, and Anthea) 1 year per case and 1,000$ in fines. 25x3 + 7x4 +1 + 217 = 322 years in prison. 5,000x60+1,000x3 + 740,000 = 1,143,000$.

Then he also committed the freezing of Opelucid. This constitutes life imprisonment with no parole. He also did science experiments for the cause of mass harm, also life sentence. Also, freezing buildings counts as arson since it was a rapid catastrophic release of thermal energy. This 25 year sentence would count per building damaged (42 buildings yes I counted). He also committed reckless endangerment against 46 citizens plus Drayton. Then there's the animal abuse part. He maximised Hydreigon Frustration, experimented on Kyurem and more. Then he coerced the player and threatened to destroy Lillie in USUM. He also attacked the player in the manga with Eelektross, which is aggravatted assault. He even committed freaking treason against the literal Unovian government. For the fines... It must have cost a lot to build Opelucid. He must have received hundreds of millions if not billions in restitution and fines. So 25x42 + 7x47 + 322 + 25 +4 + 25 + 25 = 1770

He receives 1,770 years in prison and hundreds of billions of PokéDollars in restitution and fines with the possibility of capital punishment


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 10d ago

Gen 9 Can we TALK about Blueberry Academy's OSHA violations?

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Ok. So I recently played the Indigo Disk, and I realized something really weird in the canon. The Blueberry Academy off the coast of Unova is super unsafe. Here's why.

They are underwater. Let's be real. The oceanic pressure from the literal Unovian Sea pressing against the glass dome must be a lot. If the pressure stabilizers or the structural support beams go out, the literal ocean floods the whole school. By the way, I never mentioned there were no emergency escape pods by any students, so they would have to ride on I don't know, a Lapras.

Second of all... the biomes. If the magical barrier somehow loses power, the biomes will bleed into each other and can cause a lot of enviornmental disruption.

Then there's the Pokémon. They're really aggressive and could probably end someone who is unprepared. They might also try to mess up the tech (looking at you Magneton and Probopass) and cause things to go unstable.

The Terastal energy. If some random Terapagos drains the energy, which probably would have happened if Mr. Gary Stu Florian hadn't come there and stopped angsty teenage boi Kieran from making Terapagos go berserk.

Finally, Cyrano probably doesn't know a thing about engineering. He just sits around daydreaming all day and hands all the work to Lacey, Amarys, and Mad Scientist Who Almost Made Terapagos Go Berserk And Wiped Out The School Lady™️ (Briar).

So please spare the lives the future national security of Unova and next time build the school on dry land.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 12d ago

Gen 2 The oddness of Bellossom

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I say this because of the circumstances of its typing upon evolving from Gloom. Upon evolving, it completely sheds the Poison type, and becomes a mono-Grass Mon. This isn't like other evolutions where it swaps one type out for another like Steelix and Scizor shedding the Rock and Flying types respectively and becoming Steel type. What we're seeing here is the complete transition from having two types to having only one type, and it never happens again through normal evolutionary means. I scoured the Pokedex for an instance of this happening again outside of Mega Evolving (see Mega Aggron and Mega Garchomp Z) Not even Alolan Marowak is like this, because at least it goes from a mono-Ground Mon to a Ghost/Fire Mon. Why is Bellossom the only Mon that does this?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 14d ago

Question How are there shiny legendary Pokémon like mewtwo and arceus?

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Mewtwo was genetically made so there shouldn't be a shiny variant, and as for arceus, I guess you could say "its a GOD. It can do whatever it wants" but its still confusing.

Mew: only one exists

Terapagos: its confirmed that its the last living of its kind.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 20d ago

Gen 2 Morty wasn't always designed as a ghost-type user

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His original design has a vaguely athletic look with a blue theme. Maybe he was a fighting or water gym leader originally?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 20d ago

Gen 1 The Cubone Clone Theory

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In the Pokedex, Cubone's entry states that it wears the skull of a deceased mother. But, what if that skull belonged to a sibling with a perfectly similar genetic makeup to itself and its mother? I think that Cubone (and Marowak alike) are clones of Mew. Failed ones, that were somehow altered at the cellular level to have the embryos always split inside the egg, because of the chaotic nature of Mew's DNA. Then, since the egg only carries enough nutrients to support one life, one twin dies in the egg and undergoes Rapid Cell Degradation. After the Cubone hatches, it finds its dead sibling and immediately feels the surge of trauma that is allowed by the emotional intelligence of Mew's brain, just like how Mewtwo is having a permanent existential crisis. Mourning, Cubone picks up the skull and femur of the sibling, and goes its way. Because they share the exact same DNA, saying the sibling's skull belongs to its mother isn't entirely wrong, but it is also a coverup for the testing they did. Then, as for the skull changing shape and fusing to its head upon evolution, the unstable residual DNA inside the skull reacts with the powerful evolutionary energy, and literally melts and then re-hardens into the iconic Marowak shape. As for Alolan Marowak's fire/ghost typing, theres a dormant genetic mutation inside all Cubone, awoken only by the Alola region's powerful Ultra Energy. I tried really hard to tie this all together and make it all make sense, so thank you:)


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 21d ago

Gen 2 Dragon clan test

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My personal theory is that the elder of Dragon’s Den gives the player super easy questions on purpose because 1. He feels bad for the player for having to deal with Clair’s tantrum, and 2. Because Clair probably does this a lot when she loses a battle.

Think about it, every Dragon tamer/dragon clan member and their mother talks up and down about how dragons are mystical, superior creatures that can’t just be used by any loser with a couple badges. Why wouldn’t the test be somewhat difficult? But Clair who can’t handle losing sees it as the ultimate bar of how good a trainer someone is and throws it around wily nily and the elder is clearly frustrated by it so he gives you a watered down form to just get it over with


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 22d ago

Gen 6 X and Y Elite 4 was evil

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The elite 4 in Pokemon X and Y are the rich elites controlling Kalos (france) not just allowing Lysandere and Team Flare to run a mock but Malvaa is part of Team Flare. Diantha does nothing to stop Team Flare and the other elite 4 members are wealthy or old. However I also believe the rivals and you the main character would remove them from power replacing them. France is known for overthrowing kings and queens this could be an original idea for Pokemon X and Y.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 24d ago

Gen 1 Why can't Drowzee learn Dream Eater without a TM in most games?

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This is the most bogus aspect about Drowzee, the descendant of the baku, a tapir that slurps down the dreams of people, cannot learn Dream Eater without a TM or Move Tutor in most games (I say most games, because Drowzee can actually learn it via level up in Let's Go.) The fact that Pokedex entries across the series say things like "It eats peoples dreams and sometimes gets sick from eating bad dreams" and not even let it use a move that does what the Pokedex says it does most of the time is bizarre, especially since its relative, Munna, CAN learn Dream Eater via level up consistently throughout its appearances since BW. Oh yeah, Drowzee cannot learn Dream Eater at all in SV. Let that sink in, Mr. "I rarely eat the dreams of adults because children’s are much tastier" can't eat any dreams AT ALL in SV, all because Dream Eater has no TM in this game. Why does this stupid dictionary lie to us about Drowzee?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 24d ago

Characters I finally solved the 30-year-old Mew vs Arceus paradox. It bridges the 90s Anime and Original Story lore perfectly.

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For three decades, the Pokémon community has been tearing itself apart over a massive plot hole: How can Mew be the ancestor of all Pokémon containing everyone's DNA, if Arceus is the God who created the universe and Mew itself? If Arceus created Mew, how does Mew have Arceus's DNA?The games say one thing (The Original One myth), while the 90s anime and the first movie scream another ("Mew is the first Pokémon").The answer was right in front of us, and it completely fixes the timeline. Here is the hidden truth:1. The Era of the "Prime Mew" (The Omnitype Creator)In the absolute beginning, there was Prime Mew. It wasn’t just a Psychic-type; it was a cosmic entity possessing all 18 types simultaneously—the ultimate genetic blueprint of existence. To bring order to the chaos, Prime Mew used its all-encompassing power to create Arceus, the God of Order, giving Arceus its own DNA structure. Creating an entity so powerful exhausted Prime Mew, causing it to dissolve into the cosmos.2. Arceus Builds the Physical LawsArceus, now awake, began structuring the universe. It created Dialga (Time) and Palkia (Space) to establish the physics of reality, and then shaped the planet Earth. Mew did not create Time and Space, because they are laws of physics, not biology.3. The "Second Mew" (The Weakened Matrix)The world was ready, but it was a lifeless rock. Arceus wanted to bring back life, but it couldn't replicate the limitless power of the deceased Prime Mew. Instead, Arceus used the remaining genetic fragments of its creator to fashion a Second Mew. This is the Mew we know from the anime and games—it was nerfed down to a pure Psychic-type so it wouldn't challenge Arceus's authority, but it still carried the locked "omnitype" code in its bloodline.4. Why Everything ConnectsArceus sent this Second Mew to Earth. Over millions of years, its locked DNA began to mutate and adapt, evolving into every single Pokémon species we see today—from Torchic to Garchomp.That's why scientists in the 90s anime correctly call Mew the first Pokémon and ancestor: they only discovered the fossils of the Second Mew on Earth.That's why the Original Story in Sinnoh libraries says Arceus created Mew: it refers to the Second Mew.The original writers deliberately left this puzzle unsolved, scattering clues between the science of the anime and the mythology of the games. The paradox is officially dead.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 25d ago

Gen 6 Mr. Mime evolved (err, adapted?) with Hariyama

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So I was working on the newest entry of my personal pokedex project ( https://chestnutdex.tumblr.com/ shameless plug) with my friend, and we got into the question of why Mr. Mime is Like That, and the more I looked it the more I think Hariyama is partially to blame.

Lets start with my core assumption: Mr. Mime is native to Reflection Cave, Kalos.

Despite being in the Kanto dex, Mr. Mime can't be found in the wild RBY, and are only in a very small area of Kanto in GS, next to Pallet, which really seems more like a "Red released some" than a "this is their native habitat." Then Legends Arceus tells us that they live in towns in Galar, which makes me think the Sinnoh population came with the Galarian immigrants.

So we've just got two more wild populations to look at. The Galarian one is pretty clearly a similar but non-identical species... and the Kalos one in reflection cave. The Mimes with Invisible Walls. In Reflection Cave. The perfect habitat to make some fake walls and to mimic things.

So, we've got a species growing in reflection cave. If we look just outside the cave, we see the big populations of Hariyama, Staravia, Sawk, and Throh.

Reflection Cave is garbage for food. It is a cave full of rock types. Mr. Mime live there, but they don't eat their. They HAVE to eat on Route 11 or whatever was Shalour City before Shalour City... But that probably looked like Route 11.

So, lets go over the main features of Mr. Mime.

It's a psychic fairy type... giving it double resistance to Fighting type attacks. This doesn't help against Staravia, but it makes it perfectly suited to hang out with Hariyama, Sawk, and Throh.

It makes barriers, which... reflection cave psychic type.

It mimics humans and tries to copy what they do. We don't know how long humans have been there, but mimicking Hariyama, Sawk, and Throh would certainly make it more likely for them to accept these weirdos walking around. So Mr. Mime is now set up to go into Hariyama/Sawk/Throh territory to get food. But why do I say Hariyama specifically?

Mr. Mime have horns and big red cheeks. Hariyama doesn't, of course, but Makuhita does. The Hariyama likely see these features as childlike, making the Mr. Mime seem extra cute and non-threatening, despite the opportunity for a Psybeam to entirely melt a Hariyama. But... Mr. Mime DON'T use confusion or psybeam much, do they?

Mr. Mime's primary move, according to the Pokedex, is.... Doubleslap?!!? Mr. Mime has 45 Atk and 100 Sp. Atk. And this isn't some victim of Gen 2's split. It was always like that. Even in Gen 1, the dex says it doubleslaps, but it gets Confusion first. So why is this thing ever using a 30-75 power normal attack at 45 Atk when it could be doing a 50 base power STAB Psychic attack with 100 Sp. Atk? Maybe it's to fight Stunky, which are in the area, but I think it's far MORE likely that it's trying to use Arm Thrust. The formerly signature move of Hariyama, that still only belongs to five lines (six if you count MechaHariyama.) Not only does this help Hariyama think they ARE Hariyama, but Hariyama like to fight. It's in their dex entry. They love it. They just pick others nearby and fight to test themselves. So I had an idea and I ran it through a damage calc to confirm, but with even IVs and EVs, a 45 base Attack Mr. Mime is doing about the same as much damage to a Hariyama with Double Slap as a 120 Attack Hariyama is doing with STAB Arm Thrust to the doubly resistant Mr. Mime. (120 Atk *1.5 stab is 180, divided by 4 for resistance gets a matching 45) They can literally just go in and have a slap fight and it's about on-par with a Hariyama fighting each other. The Hariyama will accept the Mr. Mime as their own.

So what's the benefit? What's the payoff here?

Berries.

Makuhita and Hariyama train by beating up trees. Mr. Mime, despite being a psychic type, has no long-range telekinesis. It can conjure up a ladder or a pole, sure, but it can't easily get food from the tops of trees. But just outside reflection cave is a species running around beating the crap out of trees, knocking berries to the ground, and then... continuing on. Sure, they eat, too, but they're knocking down so many berries that Mr. Mime is free to scavenge all it needs.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 25d ago

World Legendary Pokemon succession theory.

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The topic of how many of each Legendary/Mythical there are is a controversial one.

Some are one of a kind, like Arceus and the Creation Trio, whereas others are clearly multiple, like the Eon Duo.

But then you have examples like the Super Ancient Pokemon and the Tower Duo. Some people insist there's only one of each, whereas others think of them as multiple.

My theory? it's somewhere in the middle. There is more then one of some Legendary Pokemon, but only one can be the kami of there respective element.

Think of it as like a royal family. There can only be one ruling King/Queen, but there are multiple princes and princesses, each waiting in line to be the next ruler.

For example, there can be more then one Groudon and Kyogre, but only one of each can be the respective personification of land and sea.

Steven implies the events of Mega Evolution Specials are canonical in the games.

“Hm… You know, seeing that white beauty there that you travel with… I’m reminded of the Legendary Pokémon Rayquaza, said to descend at the Sky Pillar. I once had a chance to see it face to face. Although, it was a long time ago now… The young man who battled against Rayquaza beside me… I wonder whatever happened to him and that black Charizard of his… Well, regardless — you must go to the Sky Pillar and see what waits for you there. I don’t know what you’ll find. Be careful.”

These have Groudon and Kyogre in them, even though the ones in Hoenn are sealed in the Cave of Origin since millennia up until ORAS. Meaning they are different specimen, likely attracted by the natural energy of the Giant Rock form elsewhere.

It's possible that after the original Groudon and Kyogre where sealed, a new pair came to take on the mantel of gods of the land and sea.

The Anime shows a baby Lugia. This is the only time we see two Lugia together. If you're willing to give the Anime the benefit of the doubt on this, then this is a good possible example of a legendary heir.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 26d ago

Anime Agatha was the previous leader of Team Rocket and is Giovanni's mother

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In the CD drama The Birth of Mewtwo, Team Rocket has a female boss referred to as "Madame Boss". In a conversation with Jessie's mother, she references having a child of her own. Later in the anime, she is seen acting as the Viridian City gym leader, and her face design looks similar to Giovanni. Conclusion is she was filling in for her son while he's doing Team Rocket work.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Birth_of_Mewtwo

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Madame_Boss


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 28d ago

Gen 1 masterballs were dev test objects?

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i just was thinkign master ball ID is alwasy 1, why not the pokeball, why the masterball? well im thinking originally maby the masterball was a dev-test item, then later was decided to be kept in the game where 1 and rarely more for raffles would be given. just a little theory I don't have any sources other than its ID is freaking 1.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 28d ago

Gen 5 Ghetsis Considered Colress as a Figurehead Before N

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Okay, this isn't exactly a theory, it's more like just extrapolating from a few obscure extrinsic details. I have not found the Twitter post, but apparently Toshinobu Matsumiya said this on there about how Ghetsis and Colress knew each other:

"諸国漫遊中のゲーチスが出会ったのが天才少年のアクロマ" = "It was while traveling across regions that Ghetsis met the boy genius, Colress." (Let me know if this translation is inaccurate)

This would track with the Ghetsis from Rainbow Rocket having his BW design, but already knowing who Colress is, and being confused by the fact that Colress is opposing him.

In the teraleak, there was an early bio for BW2 Ghetsis and a draft of what he would have been up to between games, and part of it reads:

"Ghetsis reunited with 'Colress', the favorite son = the boss this time

Stimulates Colress's curiosity = the existence of a way to manifest pokémon's true potential

Has him conduct research on Kyurem" etc.

Ghetsis wanted to conquer Unova and wanted to be like a new great king like the one who ruled thousands of years ago. We know from Zinzolin in BW2 that he had documents on the Abyssal Ruins. But Ghetsis didn't have the special powers that king had and was never going to be chosen as a true hero since he's evil and sees pokémon as tools. Since he needed someone to be chosen as a true hero for his plan to work, he traveled all over, and he ended up finding N. N has this special connection with pokémon and is able to communicate with them, and he was abandoned in nature, making him the perfect candidate to groom for the role. We're familiar with this from BW.

But I think before any of that, during this search, Ghetsis encountered Colress first, a prodigy. Maybe Ghetsis liked Colress's intelligence and skill (in BW there's a moment in which Burgh takes Ghetsis off-guard and Ghetsis says he's "fond of intelligent people"). It would be useful to Ghetsis to have someone who could make pokémon be even more powerful tools, and Colress isn't someone he would've had to "educate" like he did N.

The problem is that thematically, we can see that Colress contrasts strongly with N. Colress says in BW2, "It's so frustrating! If only we could talk to Pokémon in order to bring out their power! But there's no way a person like that could ever exist!" meaning he doesn't even think someone like N could be real. N was against pokéballs and the status quo, whereas Colress basically wanted to milk it for all its worth. Colress also wasn't naive and would've had no interest in the idea of Ghetsis ruling Unova, but for Ghetsis I think that would've been a moot point since Colress's lack of morals ensured he couldn't be chosen as a hero anyway. So I believe Ghetsis ended up not even bothering to make Colress a pawn.

However, he still remembered him. After BW and leading up to BW2, when Ghetsis decided to just bring Unova down by force, due to needing to draw out Kyurem's power, he was able to get Colress on-board and utilize him the way he'd wanted to all along.

Colress is well-known for talking about how he hates Ghetsis, and I used to wonder about what the origin of his hatred was. Now, I think when Colress says, "For one thing, I detested Ghetsis from the start!" in BW2, "from the start" refers to their entire acquaintance long before Colress was in Team Plasma. I speculate that part of the reason Colress always hated Ghetsis was because Colress felt very insulted by this entire situation i.e. the fact that Ghetsis wanting to use him as a figurehead to reach his goal and then also didn't select him for the job initially. Like, Colress would not have wanted that anyway, but that could be seen as an extra indignity. If this irritates Colress, that would make sense with Colress kinda ruefully saying, "I see you are still dedicated to your own desires, Ghetsis..." in USUM.

The existence of Anthea and Concordia and the Shadow Triad also lend credence to the idea that Ghetsis considered many other candidates as well/utilized many vulnerable people. Colress just didn't have a place to neatly slot into the original plan.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 29d ago

World [Games/Anime/Manga/ect]The lesser known Pokemon gods: A list of special non-legendary Pokemon.

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This post comes from a conversation I had with my sister regarding Pokémon like the Crystal Onix and the Pokémoplis Pokémon.

We concluded that whilst there are many different Legendary Pokémon, there are some unique versions of regular Pokémon that might as well be Legendary do to how special they are.

So, I decided to do some research on Bulbapedia and make a list of them all.

I looked at several pages: Variant Pokémon and all the subcategories, as well as talking Pokémon to make my list.

Rules

I also decided to set a few rules for myself:

  1. Pokémon that are simply an odd colour (like the pink Butterfree) don't count, unless there is a lore reason for it, or it has other unique qualities.
  2. Giant Pokémon, whilst rare, aren't as unusually rare as we think. So, I'm only counting them if they are other noteworthy features.
  3. Pokémon should have some lore to them, but it's not necessarily required.

Here is the list of special Pokémon. Some of them have description to explain why they are listed.

Games

  • AZ's Floette.
  • Spikey-eared Pichu: It's a friend of Celebi.
  • Cosplay Pikachu: It can learn unusual moves and has a unique tail pattern.
  • Pikachu in a cap: Sounds ridiculous, but it's the only Pikachu that can use the Z-Move 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt.
  • Totem Pokémon.
  • Hisui ride Pokemon.
  • Nobal Pokemon.
  • Talking ghost Marowak.
  • Bloodmoon Ursaluna
  • Titan Pokemon
  • Pokopia Ditto
  • Professor Tangrowth
  • Smearguru
  • Peakychu
  • Mosslax
  • DJ Rotom
  • Chef Dente
  • Tinkmaster

Anime/manga (giant Pokémon)

Remember rule 2. Just being big doesn't count.

  • Giant Pokemoplis Pokémon. Gengar, Alakazam and Jigglypuff (and presumably others)
  • Giant Dragonite: Freakishly large. The episode treats it as special
  • Giant Tentacruel: It was grown large artificially, but I still count it, since artificial legendary Pokémon (like Mewtwo) do exist.
  • Nero the giant Whiscash: It has lore to it, plus it infamously ate a Master Ball, which in itself is impressive.
  • Giant Claydol.
  • Greedy Rapooh the giant Gengar: Has lore to it.
  • Black Fog (Giant Haunter): From Manga. Is an ancient Pokémon.
  • Gohs giant Golurk. Was the guardian of a temple.
  • Giant Slowpoke: (manga) Giovanni thought he could take over the world with it.

Anime/Manga (others)

  • Crystal Onix.
  • Shiny Shuckle: May seem like just a shiny, but it has special juice, so I'm counting it.
  • Snowmen Snorlax.
  • Carbink servants: Merrick, Bort, Allotrope, and Dace.
  • Team Rockets talking Meowth: My sister suggested him, because being able to talk and act like a human makes him special. Plus, he can use a lot of machines and imitate other Pokémon.
  • Talking Gastly: aka, the Ghost of Maiden's Peak.
  • Talking Slowking: Guardian of Shamouti Shrine.
  • Black Tyranitar: From Manga.
  • Mewtwo's clones.
  • Santa's talking Lapras.
  • Any Pokémon owned by Santa, who is pretty much a legend himself.
  • Meta Groudon.
  • Ash Greninja.
  • The Six Heroes.
  • Ash's Pikachu: He is noted to be very powerful, to the point where Team Rocket are fixated on catching him, and helped Ash save the world many times. (Plus, he can make some realy great impressions, by morphing his face)

If there's anyone I've forgotten, or if you have questions about my choices, please let me know.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 29d ago

Gen 10 Pombon evo speculation Spoiler

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So with the new leeks for the starters this is my thoughts and what pombon final evo will be. In the leaks/riddles has the fanal evo as some sort of blimp that paints and I think that it’s honestly prob pretty true and least conceptually. In Lockstin & Gnoggin’s video going over his fan evolution for the starters he make some points that pombon is based on a Pomeranian a breed of spitz dog and it originated in or around Europe (more specifically) a Dutch/german/swedish breed and he mentioned the Dutch had a lot of influence on early Indonesia. So I’m thinks that like the leaks show it will become a Swedish/dutch inspired mon as blimps and zeppelin were also invented or at least the idea of them was made around that area and with pompon being a dog Pokémon inspired by a spitz breed and the Dutch influence on Indonesia and blimps/zeppelins being from around that part of the world the leaks are most likely right.

Would love to see some fan evos inspired by this!


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 29d ago

Question What is Your In Game Headcanon For Missing.No?

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Like yeah it real life we know that it was just a glitch that happened during the optimization phase but it’s been 30 years I’m sure with people’s imaginations some of us must have created an headcanon for what Missing.No was

Like when I was younger I always figured it was the first pokemon transferred with the PC system when it was brand new and untested

The pokemon just never got to where it was sent to, but overtime as each pokemon was transferred using the PC system the data combined with pokemon dna got stronger and stronger until one day it would be set free

What is your headcanon? Or idea?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 15 '26

Gen 1 The Episode 13 Giant "Dragonite" Pokemon

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I've begun to rewatch the series and i'm on episode 13, the giant dragonite-like pokemon has always been a point of mystery to me, even as a child, but knowing what we know now what theories do you all think are the best?

I think the big three are:

  1. The giant pokemon was from the robot island of other giant pokemon in episode 17 (the only flaw with this is that the giant pokemon in episode 13 is vastly different to the giant pokemon in episode 17, it seems to react alot more emotionally and reacts to being hurt and betrayed by humans. One point i just thought of in support of this point is that the eye of this giant pokemon is glowing a bright white, so much so that it illuminates its own head, could be a robot eye used for illuminating the surrounding area)

  2. The giant pokemon is foreshadowing gigantamax (obviously the show wouldn’t’ve known this but the theory makes some sense, maybe it was hidden all along, ooo spooky...)

  3. The giant pokemon is so big because of it's environment (probably the least likely due to not many cases seen that were this drastic in the rest of the show, feel free to correct me though, it kinda makes sense)

Overall i wouldn't be mad at any of these theories, i like to think that they're true, but realistically it was probably just done by the animators to make the pokemon seem more legendary and mystical to the people watching.

Let me know what you think in the comments.