r/playrust • • 21h ago

Image Why introduce a system to immediately nerf it an update later?

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https://commits.facepunch.com/r/rust_reboot/main/QualiTeaOfLife_Nerf

I refuse to believe that it took you only 2~ weeks to decide that the new bonuses provided to teas is NOW suddenly a problem. Just doing the math you'd realized the new combos you created would boost Teas even further. (example: 2x+ on Ore Teas)

If a bonus on say Ore Tea above 50% yield was such a problem then who's decision was it to introduce all of the new teas/pie variants in the first place?

If feels a bit shit to have the baseline of Teas nerfed and the only way to get back to that is to interact with the new system you created. Which you actually are only getting to the yield you still have the duration reduction from the Creamy tea variants. Assuming the wording is correct this doesn't just pertain to Ore Teas, which is the most obvious offender of the new scaling.

Nerfing Crafting Quality would be no sense as it was never scaled by the new system. "Rad Removal" teas is misleading because that's not what the teas even do. No one uses the Anti-Radiation teas because they're absolutely useless. Unless you want to specifically use it at Launch puzzle to reduce the radiation damage you'd receive.

This is a weird strategy to get people to interact with the new a powerful system only to rug pull it the next update. It's one thing to reign in the bonuses of the new variants as opposed to gutting the whole system.

Edit: I want to clarify something as it seems people are misunderstanding my argument. I have zero issue with them wanting to nerf specific teas for various reasons. If they wanted to nerf Ore Teas to damper sulfur generation then so be it. I'd have zero issues with this. My actual issue is a blanket nerf to the other 7 teas which have nothing to do with sulfur generation. We can all see and agree the current values are absolutely bonkers. Why is the solution a blanket nerf to teas as a whole?

Edit 2: I'd like to clarify why I am frustrated with this change. When I first posted this I was quite upset and didn't quite clearly get what I was frustrated about across. I am not upset that they are nerfing teas, truthfully some of them were honestly ridiculous.

What I am frustrated about is how these nerfs came to be. Facepunch spent the time and resources to create this new avenue for farming. Albeit at the cost of power creep, which is a little hard to avoid when adding new systems to an existing one. The current wipe you will be rewarded with engaging with it with some new powerful teas and pies, awesome. Good game design, reward players for engaging with your system.

However, moving forward all teas are getting a baseline nerf, even ones that aren't even problematic. Perhaps you have a strategy you use with off meta teas and enjoy that gameplay loop. Unfortunately it's no longer as strong without even more time investment.

Putting together a farm was already a big investment you had to make. Proper base location with water access or spending tarp to put up water catches on your base. Going out and getting seeds so you can make your own clones. Spending time in or close to your base to efficiently make these clones. Working on getting a T2 so you can use water pumps unless you want to manually water every planter. Then when you finally get these clones you spend even more time cloning the clones so you can plant for actual profit. You proceed to wait 1.5h~ to harvest those precious berries/cloth. You are rewarded with a powerful boost you can either use yourself or even sell.

Now you not only have to do all that you'll need to micro manage cows and their milk/cream timer. Even with the proposed changes to cows milk adding up to 3 charges you'll still need to baby sit them if you want to efficiently procure Milk/Cream. At least with berries you can go fuck off for over an hour and not need to worry about your berries as they need that time to grow. You do all this extra work for effectively the same yield as you had before.

I understand most people don't even engage with this system as you're all just a bunch of PvP chads. I actually enjoy engaging with this system and it leaves a shit taste in my mouth knowing I'll be doing even more micro managing for no extra gain.

tl;dr: The livestock update introduced more work and time investment into making teas/pies. FP gave us very strong teas, some even very problematic with their numbers. In response to this there is a blanket nerf to all teas, teas that I imagine most people don't even know exist or realistically use. Now moving forward you are expected to do even more work to get to the same result you had prior to this update. And this nerf doesn't even address the sulfur acquisition of clans. Prior to this update they were getting 525 sulfur per node, current update it's 639, next update it'll be 562. A loss of 77 sulfur per node from the livestock but prior to this update it's still an extra 37. So no, this doesn't slow down clans they're still going to raid you and the server. What this does do is affect everyone else that wanted or decided to engage with this system.


r/playrust • • 25m ago

Suggestion Block sulfur/gunpowder trade from vending machines.

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Title.

#Stop_sulfur_currency.


r/playrust • • 10h ago

Discussion Add this fuck the cows

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I dont give a damn about cows and neither does everyone elses fps, add a god damn in game setting to switch audio outputs for the game


r/playrust • • 16h ago

Discussion Soy nuevo con 550h en rust y estoy cansado de jugar solo

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Empecé a jugar rust en febrero de este año, nunca he tenido un grupo fijo, a veces me reclutaban algunos gringos y me mantenía con ellos hasta que nos raideaban y me volvia a quedar solo, siempre trato de buscar team, pero no me duran mas de 2 wipes, o el grupo se separa o simplemente un dia nadie dice de jugar un wipe o si alguien hace la propuesta nadie responde, la verdad estoy enamorado del juego, le hecho muchas a horas a practicar aim y tal, pero no puedo jugar solo, ni siquiera un servidor x2 o x3, ya que me cuesta la vida farmear los papeles yo solo, construir yo solo y tal, y la pocas veces que voy equipado me encuentro con un team de 3 o mas y no puedo hacer mucho contra eso, la verdad considero que tengo un nivel bastante bueno para las horas que tengo y soy un buen compañero de equipo, siempre doy calls, no me tilteo por que nos maten con loot o algo, y tengo 0 ego y 0 toxicidad

(Posdata no escribo esto para buscar team, escribo esto para saber si alguien le pasa como a mi y si me podéis dar consejos)


r/playrust • • 17h ago

Suggestion [Suggestion] Remove livestock

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Cowpocalypse was fun, but now the fun is over.

With the proposed changes to creamy teas (all farming teas get nerfed so creamy tea is what pure used to be and pure is worse than before) you just made it so we have the same situation as WITHOUT livestock, just with a ton of tedious (really, they are not fun in any way) extra steps.

So why keep them? Nobody uses them for wool. A few people bring livestock that spawned right next to barn there and sell it. And probably <10 people actually still breed livestock.

It was a fun idea but not well done. Remove them, make the pure teas what they were before.

Rethink livestock, figure out if they actually have a purpose in game, and if not, keep them out of the game. There is more than enough stuff already.


r/playrust • • 4h ago

Discussion Scrap rework idea

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Personally I always liked the workbench system, but I really do understand why people do not like the bp frag system.

I think the best way to solve this would be to allow crafting of any items at all workbenches, but with penalties. For example crafting t2 items at a t1 workbench would cost 50% more, t3 items at a t1 workbench 100% more.

Additionally, I think all tech trees should remain at their workbench, and in order to get other bps outside of your workbench level, you should have to use the research table.

This simple change, adds the excitement back. If you find a sar, or garage door in a box it’s actually helpful again.

Any thoughts?


r/playrust • • 15h ago

Discussion Please FP for the love of the game f8x this shit

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Binoculars are a tier 1 item, they are actually pretty far down the tech tree..... yet once researched you can craft Binoculars without being beside a workbench. Game breaking shit FP


r/playrust • • 6h ago

Video These Sinotype organization boxes look so good in my PvE base!

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r/playrust • • 18h ago

Question Is this decent aim and recoil control for my second day playing Rust? How do I improve faster?

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I think this map was called UKN something, I found it online today after searching "maps to get better aim"


r/playrust • • 1h ago

Question What is the point of adding color blind accessibility if you are still going to be killed by a guy wearing perfect snow or forest camouflage?

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r/playrust • • 9h ago

Suggestion Suggestion: Captive Bolt Pistol

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Allow us to make a T2 heavy and movement slowing captive bolt pistol with some propane tanks and metal frags, and only allow a few uses before needing to be refilled at a workbench. This way we have a quick, instant way to slaughter cattle at home, but it heavily discourages use as a way to instakill wild cattle.


r/playrust • • 18h ago

Discussion The Fall Off Of Rust Is Finally Here

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Maybe the devs will finally realize roleplayer updates arent the way to go Rust was a Pvp Survival game that got turned upside down after the OTV Streamers came to play n couldnt shoot a gun. WE MISS YOU HELK! Alistar can kick rocks all these updates and ideas come from him because he ingame dates its sad how the game is atm and where it came from to where its at. what your thoughts chat?


r/playrust • • 12h ago

Question What am i doing wrong

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i havent played the game since last year and it runs like shit i dont remember my exact ingame settings but with the current ones im not even getting a stable 60 fps, is my pc that shit or am i just messing something up?

CPU: ryzen 5 5600
GPU : rx 9060xt (16gb)
Ram: 32gb 3200mhz ddr4
resolution : 1920x1080
and i also run the game on a 2tb nvme ssd


r/playrust • • 9h ago

Discussion Stuttering

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I have this problem for over a year, every time you load into server it lags really hard, tried updating every bios, every firmware of every component, disabling every background process, tried lowering graphics to very low, still doesn’t help, you name I tried it. It stutters only when rendering something new or shooting a new gun. RAM 16 GB 3600 mhz, 5 5600x, Rx 7600, 1 tb nvme. The only time it fixes stutters when restarting windows and reinstalling everything, but the lag spikes come back after a couple of months. The only thing I can imagine that it’s the lack of VRAM or RAM but why does restarting windows fix it for a couple of months, also think might be a faulty nvme
Please please some genius help me


r/playrust • • 18h ago

Question Satchel charges despawning, can we change this?

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I set up a trap with an ignitor and several satchel charges extinguished with a water gun.

I got online today, saw they were gone, but nobody else triggered the trap.

I read that as long as they are on a building with a TC, they won't despawn. Do I need to add anything to the TC so they don't decay?


r/playrust • • 19h ago

Video Easiest floor-stack method I've found

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103 Upvotes

Only downside is you need to have the industrial light. Always remember to place the top floor first.


r/playrust • • 32m ago

Image Dear Facepunch

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I have played this wipe solo for 6 hours, i have collected this amount of scrap without recycling (plus stuff researched) yet i only have 1 blueprint fragments. This can’t go on.

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I just did a labs run at almost 2 in the morning and there’s 3 guys holding it with pump still, i have EVERYTHING expect for frags.


r/playrust • • 2h ago

News Lighthouse changes: repair to unlock deep sea

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63 Upvotes

seems like a good change to me!


r/playrust • • 21h ago

Discussion did rust get more optimized? i’ve been running at a way higher fps than usual

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r/playrust • • 11h ago

Image the pop of the eoka

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r/playrust • • 1h ago

Discussion Friends

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I’m somewhat new to rust and I just need friends honestly to play with I’m decent at farming I just don’t wanna become a farm mule and that’s it if that makes sense i just wanna make friends on this game I am in North America