Plastic is almost free.
To put it as simply as possible, it's basically just a byproduct of oil refining, it's part of why plastic is a problem. It gets used for way too many disposable things just because it's cheap.
And not very recyclable, in turn.
It costs more to recycle plastic back into a usable form than it does to just buy new plastic.
If OP got their coffee at a more expensive price than the usual coffee in Starbucks then itās a āgreen initiativeā. Itās an excuse to slam a higher markup on āgreen/bio productsā
I live in Hawaii and weāve had these cups for a while, worse part is that they use that same paper shit for iced drinks then hand over a plastic straw. It makes me so mad I stopped drinking Starbucks lol
Those were only available for 2 days, which is what made some people go completely crazy over them, lol. It's so funny to me how every post/reel/tiktok i saw of someone drinking it said it was horrendous and disgusting.
Iāve had two Starbucks hot coffee cups completely explode on me in the last 6 months because the cup was so flimsy and the shitty lid just flew off. I went back to just making my own damn coffee after having to clean up these two giant spills, including one all over the interior of my car.
I had that happen while I was working there 20 years ago. I was pouring coffee into the cup for a customer and the cup exploded all over my hand. First aid? Nope. Right back to work.
Theyāre not going green, theyāre cutting costs. The thought that any corporation that large gives a fuck about the environment enough to spend money to offset their impact is fkn laughable.
That's quite the broad brush you're painting. I can promise you most of Starbucks customers do indeed care about the environment.
I'm not defending Starbucks necessarily, nor do I think they did this altruistically. But I do think it's a good thing as it shows consumer spending behaviors can force companies into eco friendly choices.
It's too evenly distributed to be splashes or overfilling, that's wicking from when they take a sip. It's just one big wet spot at the opening, and then the wetness spreads as it penetrates each layer of the paper and get soaked in. The outside's coffee pattern seems to reflect that as well.
I think they only do this in states that regulate stuff like this. Are you in California?
There is a serious, almost apocalyptic-level plastic problem in our environment that we need to address and stop contributing to, but I think making a better ecosystem for reusable cups and incentivizing them more heavily is the better solution. This just creates more waste.
Frankly, anything that reduces plastic at any part of the extraction -> creation -> use -> disposal chain is a net good, and there is more than one solution. We can and should do things at every step, not just one.
Even performative bullshit like paper cups with plastic straws is an improvement over plastic cups with plastic straws. While it's not great, it is good. It's okay to admit that, while also demanding better.
The lid is only so you donāt spill it on Yourself or your car interior when driving. If youāre home or at a place with a table or desk, just throw that bad boy away and drink coffee with an open rim like god intended.Ā
No, it doesn't suggest otherwise at all. The fact that the lid is there to stop spillage while on the move isn't invalidated by the ability to have a drink at the same time.
Sure thing buddy. I reacted to a comment saying that itās only meant for not spilling it on yourself. When the hole clearly means itās meant for drinking as well. The comment I reacted to invalidated that fact.
The lid does only exist so you don't spill the drink. The hole allows you to drink through it while it does its job. That doesn't change the purpose of the lid.
I donāt disagree with you at all? Like Iāve been trying to explain?
Iāll break it down
1 OP implied that the lid is ONLY meant for not spilling the drink on yourself.
2 my comment stated that it is meant for drinking also.
3 you somehow fail to see that I agree with you and you donāt seem to grasp that both indeed are true?
Maybe my point was semantic, but whatever. Hope this helps, if not, good luck to you!
the sip opening in the lid leads me to believe otherwise, especially considering the sip changes based on the type of coffee provided (hot, hot with foam, cold with foam, etc.)
the different form factors mean that the lid does take the sipping into account. further, statistically the vast majority of coffees are known to be drank on the go. starbucks knows this. we know this. You absolutely know this.
Itās at a specific starbucks in an area just south of Seattle. There is another one within a mile and they have the more plastic feeling compostable top like everywhere else. They also have the dome tops that takes the joy out of whip cream
Why are you going to Starbucks !?
If youāre just south of Seattle I KNOW thereās better coffee
This is a result of your poor taste https://giphy.com/gifs/HzYHJZ7uLnvJoVMgIw
I'm here to call out Regal Cinemas for their shitty paper straws. It's been years since people have figured out better materials for eco-friendly straws! Regal needs to stop with the paper ones that disintegrate and get punctured by the plastic drink lid. It's ridiculous!
I heard that company's Can make better straws, lids, cups, etc. they just choose not to in hopes that everyone gets pissed off enough they change the laws.
I think there's some truth to it because White Spot had the best paper straws for the longest, everyone now is just catching up.
Deliberately bad engineering so when people complain they can go back to the cheaper less green version. They really are the scummiest of coffee brands.
Wouldn't an effective anti-spill device to be to just provide the same amount of coffee in bigger cups? The extra height would allow for more sloshage. I imagine people would assume they were being short-changed though.
Starbucks doesn't care about the environment but they are cheap. It is probably a local/state government regulation. My community banned plastic bags in 2010. Now all our to go containers and silverware can't be plastic either. There is better paper cup/lid options that other coffee shops use but it cost more.
The paper dome lids always make me do a double take because it looks so weird still.
Didnāt they just quietly start reversing their green initiative commitments and fire their sustainability staff? Half of the time these companies are greenwashing anyway and only provide single stream refuse services, even if they did provide the proper services most people are disposing of their waste off property. Yes, these will break down better in landfills, but itās still going to landfills.
We went from paper cups and plastic straws to plastic cups and paper straws. Except all of those feel good wine moms won't picture a turtle with a straw sticking out of their nose. That's gotta count for something, right?
1.1k
u/Saleh9118 1d ago
They dont care about the planet, prob saw it was cheaper and uses the health of the planet as an excuse.