I got the surgery on September 3rd! 🩷

I’ve been going through the process of braces with the eventual outcome to have double jaw surgery to fix and underbite (on the NHS in the UK). I had a routine braces check up appointment today and was advised that I could be getting my jaw surgery march 2027 which after a 4 and half year journey was abit of a shock.

I’m not massively insecure about my underbite but it does cause some functional issues. I’m terrified of the getting the surgery. I’m scared of how it’s going to change my face, I know the change to my jaw will be positive but the changes it can cause to the rest of my face (nose and symmetry) scares me. I know it sounds daft but I’m scared that I won’t like my new face and that my boyfriend won’t like it either (daft I know). With me not being massively insecure the thought of change is scary because I don’t necessarily want to look too different.

My question to you is would it be worth it?

The photos I have attached are photos I e taken of my self and photos other people have taken of me. I feel like in selfies you can barely notice it. But in photos other people take you can? It’s so distracting not knowing how you look!

Hi, I’m wondering if it’s possible to have asymmetrical jaw without misalignment in teeth. It’s weird because my lips don’t align naturally even though my teeth do. I think that’s what I might have but have not yet gone to get x ray. So was wondering if anyone could answer before I go

Today is exactly one month since my bimax. Today I saw my orthodontist for the first time and she also recommended for me to go for a second opinion to an oral surgeon for the asymmetry and whether my maxilla is centred. I’m still worried that I look worse now due to the look of my upper lip, nose and because I feel like my upper jaw was moved forward however lower stayed recessed and downward, but I also understand that there’s still swelling. Last 2 are before surgery. Does anyone have any good recommendations for surgeons or hospitals for revision surgery in the Netherlands, I would appreciate some advice.

Hi all, had DJS under NHS. Been waiting for 6 years for this. Currently 4 and a half hours after surgery and I feel better than expected. I thought I’d be in immense pain but they have managed the pain extremely well.
Any advice for once I’m home would be great. I’ve got all essentials, electrolytes, ensure plus, wedge pillow but please suggest things I may not have even thought of that helped you all. Thank you so much ❤️

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I'm a 36-year-old male, and severe obstructive sleep apnea (ahi 39)has completely destroyed my quality of life.

For years, I've struggled with terrible sleep, constant awakenings, choking sensations, and the feeling that my airway is collapsing every time I start falling asleep. It has reached a point where I can barely function normally anymore. My entire life revolves around trying to breathe and get some decent sleep.

I recently underwent a DISE (Drug-Induced Sleep Endoscopy), which confirmed multilevel airway collapse, including:

Complete (100%) tongue base collapse

Secondary epiglottic collapse, caused by my tongue base pushing the epiglottis backward

Additional obstruction at multiple levels of my upper airway

I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, including:

CPAP, including experimenting with different pressures and many masks

Mandibular advancement device (MAD) which really did a big improvement but many side effects/pain/headaches

Myofunctional therapy

Various breathing exercises and positional adjustments

Unfortunately, nothing has provided a sustainable solution.

I'm now seriously considering maxillomandibular advancement (MMA) surgery with counterclockwise (CCW) rotation, specifically to address my severe airway obstruction

At this point, my priority is being able to breathe and sleep normally again. However, I'm also concerned about the aesthetic consequences of large skeletal advancements.

My questions are:

Based on my facial structure, how much maxillary and mandibular advancement do you think I could aesthetically tolerate before looking unnatural?

Would CCW rotation potentially allow for greater airway improvement without excessively advancing my midface?

For those who had complete tongue base collapse and secondary epiglottic collapse, did MMA resolve these issues?

Would you prioritize maximum airway expansion even if it meant compromising facial aesthetics?

I'm not expecting anyone to replace a qualified maxillofacial surgeon. I'm simply interested in hearing opinions and experiences, especially from people who have undergone large advancements.

I genuinely feel like I've lost my life to this condition, and I'm desperate to get it back.

I don't care about achieving some perfect model-like jawline. I just want to breathe normally, sleep through the night, and still recognize myself in the mirror.

Any advice or personal experiences would mean a lot.

Is it normal to have that kind of jaw assymetry? Like one side is longer and more defined, I also have this weird gulp when resting my tongue up, which I dont have on other side. Nobody seems to have a solid answer, but Ik theres something off about my profile

I'm sixteen years old and i very often struggle with not being able to take normal breaths through my nose, therefore having to switch to mouthbreathing atleast for that one breath. I also always mouth breathe while sleeping. Comparing my side profile to other people who also have jaw problems i see some similarities, tho i have no bite problem, so idk if maybe i should look into something else.

So I have a horribly recessed upper jaw and lower jaw. My side profile looks awful and I have lip incompetence, chin shadows, and absolutely no jawline definition. Undereyes are awful too because of recessed maxilla. Not to mention, I’ve never weighed more than 120 lbs in my life but because of no jawline my face just looks fat.

I used to have a bad overbite but had braces and premolars extracted when I was a kid so now my bite is normal.

I did a home sleep study that was completely normal. Now they are saying there is no functional need for surgery and if I want to pay out of pocket it will be 60k at least

My surgeon didn’t tell me until last minute your nose can widen (if your a girl this probably won’t look aesthetic), lip shape can be smaller if they’re originally big, chance your sleep apnea if medical may not be fixed. risking a hole in the roof of your mouth, death or blindness, every WEEK you have to go in and get your teeth cleaned, infection, you will be isolated if BOTCHED, surgeons will approve you for $ if they have no ethics same with orthodontics especially ones that don’t clean teeth, if you truly don’t need this please reconsider putting your life and comfort in your body for aesthetics. I regret this everyday because I have a large fistula (hole) from the surgery and my face looks worse. I wear masks everyday and have to go in to get that hole fixed. My love life is now non existent. No social life.

Hello! I’m starting my dental work journey and I do plan to get teeth extracted + braces. However, my ortho had referred me for orthognathic surgery to fix my open bite.

My jaw surgeon said that they would need to work on the upper and lower jaw. For anyone who’s gone through this, do you guys think fixing it would make my face look longer? I’m particularly worried about my chin looking longer as I wouldn’t want that to happen 🥲

Hello !

I am a determined yet completely afraid girl, and I need feedbacks !

A few years ago, I was told I needed jaw surgery (my lower jaw is recessed). I was so afraid that I refused it completely and just carried on with my life.

But the ortho who recommended it warned me that my teeth were more likely to wear down and my gums to recede, so I always kept it in the back of my mind, thinking I'd eventually need it, just later.

Now that I'm almost 30, I'm sick of not doing something good for myself out of fear ! I want to stop feeling insecure about my profile, and my gums are starting to feel very thin around my front teeth.

I think it's time, but I'm freaking out. I have a surgeon's appointment in november and I can't stop thinking about it. I already had my ortho appointement with x-rays and impressions.

My ortho said I'd need four premolar extractions to decompensate, because my teeth are very flared out.

Having four teeth pulled and then undergoing surgery feels like such a life-changing experience, and I'm terrified. I'm scared of the anesthesia (the loss of control), of having my jaw wired shut, and of the pain. I am starting to "accept" Lower jaw surgery but if the surgeon tells me I need DJS I might freak out even more.

Every time I see someone who's had JS, I think they're a superhero and that I'm absolutely not capable of doing the same !!

I feel i'm going crazy because here in France dentists and ortho keep telling me it's nothing, it's a very basic and well-done surgery. While i don't doubt that surgeons do it very well multiple Times a day, it's not my understanding that on the patient POV it is something to take lightly... Some people even say it is the most challenging thing they have done. I feel like doctors, even very sweet ones, dont understand the fear... And that makes me feel bad and not very brave.

Has anyone been through this surgery after being very scared at first ? Did you have a trigger/wake-up call to finaly start the process or did you start by ignoring the fear and jump ?

I've had MSE expansion which expanded my upper palate from 34-39mm, double jaw surgery which moved my upper jaw forward 10mm, and currently in the middle of invisilign where I have elastics to extrude my upper molars lower. I feel like my smile still feels extremely shallow and my back teeth and canines are too high.

My incisors are also still slightly flare as my upper jaw still feel recessed so they flare to compensate. I'm genuinely so frustrated having tried so many options to achieve a genuinely full smile as close as I can to the last few photos as reference. I unfortunately had premolars removed when I was a child, and this has been my long journey to try to not only reverse that, but gain a full smile.

Please are there any orthodontic or other options that could project my upper teeth, completely upright them, lower my molars and canines significantly. I've looked into SFOT but unsure how that would work with my short roots and screws in my upper jaw from DJS. I'm looking into veneers as a last resort but after all of this effort I want to really pursue any intervention to achieve as much fullness as I can with my natural teeth. Any and every advice is appreciated.

My whole family has sleep apnea, and I’m wondering if I should consider preventive jaw surgery before I develop it myself. I’m pretty lean, around 6’0 and 141 lbs, and I feel like the only reason my airway looks large is because I’m skinny. I’ve also been told I might have some mandibular recession. My sleep studies have been mostly normal, but I still have concerns about my sleep quality. Is preventive BSSO or MMA worth considering in a situation like this, or would it be unnecessary without confirmed sleep apnea? Curious what you guys think.

Hi all, I had emergency jaw surgery back in July after falling and breaking my left mandibular condyle. My surgeon installed hardware and banded my mouth shut to help realign my left side while it heals. I’m 3 months post op and 90% normal with little to no pain when eating normal foods (though still difficult to eat super hard and chewy foods), and currently working on being able to open my mouth all the way again as my healthy non broken side has gotten tight after zero to little use.

My jaw is still a bit crooked when I open my mouth, and when talking I can definitely feel the back of my left (broken side) teeth hitting my top in a way my right side doesn’t. My teeth align fine when closed but the opening is crooked, with the left side (broken) shorter than my non broken side.

Has anyone experienced something similar and had their jaw heal fine? My surgeon said the jaw joint takes about 1 year to fully remodel, but I’m not feeling super hopeful that my left side will go back to normal.

Thanks for any advice!

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I am 29/F and have an under developed lower jaw. I was told my SNA is 80 and SNB is 74.
Symptoms: fall asleep with mouth open, at rest mouth gets open. Wake up with super dry throat, have halitosis and jaw pain at times. Get upper respiratory tract infections frequently.

Issue: i have fibrous dysplasia of my left lower jaw which is adding to bulk on my left side. Its bigger by 5-8 mm

Dilemma: told that its rare and that they cannot do shaving of the excess bone unless the split goes well as how a dysplastic bone splits is not typical.

I’m confused.
Would you do this if you were me? If you are already happy with your face. Risky surgery and you have no overt symptoms since last year?

Im a 31yr old F who has had a normal bite and healthy teeth my entire life without ever needing braces. However, over the course of approx. one year, I gradually developed an open bite. I do clench my teeth, although I have not noticed myself clenching for at least the past 5 months since becoming more aware of the habit. I have been attending physical therapy for 3 months in hopes of potentially correcting the open bite, but I am unsure whether this is possible. I have consulted multiple oral and maxillofacial surgeons, but I have not yet received a clear explanation for why this is happening. One particularly unusual pattern I have noticed is that when I take a muscle relaxer at night, my teeth are almost perfectly aligned when I wake up, and my bite appears nearly normal. However, as the day progresses, my open bite gradually becomes more pronounced.
I have attached my MRI results for reference. Has anyone experienced something similar or have any insight into what might cause a progressively worsening open bite in adulthood? I would greatly appreciate any advice or recommendations for further evaluation.

Scheduled for Djs and a genioplasty in two weeks in Colombia. I’ve had braces twice in the past before and I was never able to correct my bite. Super self conscious about my recessed chin 😩 Going down a rabbit hole of just reading everyone’s experiences, majority say it’s worth it and some not so much! I’m also trying to wean my exclusive breastfed baby before surgery and I think im more petrified of that than surgery itself! My one year old and 3 years old are coming with me on this trip along with my husband and cousin for support and help with the kiddos. Advice away please! ( and be be nice)

I have a noticeably recessed lower jaw, but my airway appears to be normal on my CBCT scan.

Does having normal airway measurements on a CBCT scan mean that obstructive sleep apnea can be ruled out?

Hi all, I’m 8 days post-op now and one big surprise was how difficult the chin dressing was going to be to remove. I’m not sure if these are common for everyone, but I had a genioplasty and had to wear it for five days. Trying to pull it off on my new jaws and especially on my bruised neck was torture!!!! I eventually found Goo Gone for Skin and just doused each millimeter of the wrap in it and, while it still took awhile, it came off much more gently than with just warm water alone. Any medical adhesive remover would be better than just trying to power through. I didn’t know of this genre before this week, but passing it along in case it helps. Happy healing, everyone!