r/janeausten • • 21d ago

Meta / Subreddit Upcoming Megathreads for cinema release of Sense & Sensibility (2026)

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We the mods are planning to create discussion megathreads for the major cinema release dates of Sense & Sensibility (2026).

  • We will create two megathreads: one for raves (yay!) and one for rants (nay!) so that snobbery may have its day and the mods can have a life ;) Please post in the appropriate thread. If you are meh, you will have to decide which thread is the home for you, but if you are combative, we may remove your comments, redirect you to the other thread, etc. etc.
  • There will be two major waves of megathreads—one for the late September release (UK, Ireland, Belgium, et al) and one for the mid-October release (US, Canada, Australia, et al).
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r/janeausten • • 21d ago

Read-through Swift Summer Read-Through of Sense & Sensibility - (Anti-)Adaptations - Part 2

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It continues...

In finding profoundly rendered relationships among women in Austen’s novels, critics such as Susan Lanser and Ruth Perry have suggested that Austen was not genuinely committed to the courtship plot that structures her novels.17  My own book, Jane Austen among Women, suggests that Austen’s attitude towards and treatment of the courtship plot was more equivoocal.  It shows the basis in the author’s life for her fictional representations of women’s loving ties, maintaining that without the support of her sister, Cassandra, and a handful of other female kin and friends, Jane Austen could not have become a novelist.  But it suggests that Austen was also sincerely attached to the larger culture of the gentry and specifically to its high valuation of marriage and family life.  Hence, Jane Austen among Women argues, Austen’s six novels both endorse and subtly challenge the courtship plot’s emphasis on heterosexual romance.18  Indeed, at least in part it is because they are equivocal that so many diverse interpretations have been and will continue to be generated about the novels (This paragraph reads a bit like a sales pitch and I’m a little bit staggered about how often this essay uses one of those diverse interpretations as a definitive thing to hold an adaptation up against, just to straight out say that many interpretations are possible.  These last paragraphs summarize just a small fraction of Austen scholarship, all of which subscribe to a similar interpretation.  My guess is there is as at least as much scholarship providing a counterbalance.  There can be no definitive, gold-standard interpretation of what Austen meant to tell us with her novels.  Each reader will take away whatever their own experiences, their own nature leads them to feel is correct.  All of which to say, as I’ve said already, I don’t think it’s fair to hold up an adaptation, which is, at its core, an interpretation of the text, to scholarly criticism of literature.  Is it fair to disparage an Emma adaptation because it doesn’t lean into “subtly challenging the courtship plot’s emphasis on heterosexual romance?” which is ultimately just this author’s own personal interpretation on the text?  What validity does it have that makes it more valid than any other idea?) .

Neither of the recent films suggests that female friendships are sufficient to sustain an alternative emotional life for heroines without men.  Emma’s intense focus on and feelings for Harriet Smith (I really don’t like that this is stated as a fact of the novel, when it is another interpretation, and a hotly debated one at that) are not given much weight in the film.  She and Harriet are “girlfriends” in a modern, trivialized sense, talking about boys or playing with puppies (Whether there is something deeper there is another subjective read, as I just said.).  The film also considerably reduces representations of not only her contacts with but also her thoughts about Jane Fairfax (Her thoughts about Jane Fairfax tend to run on the exact same lines throughout the novel – there isn’t a lot of diversity there that the film is missing).  The presentation of women’s relationships is more complex in Sense and Sensibility.  The filmmakers were concerned that the film not seem to be about “a couple of women waiting around for men,” and so they did emphasize the relationship between Elinor and Marianne (But this paragraph starts with saying that this relationship wasn’t emphasized enough?  And doesn’t this same line work as evidence against the premise of this entire essay?  It’s not going to get a specific refute?).19

An early scene in Barton Cottage, invented for the film, illustrates both the discomforts of the Dashwoods’ new home and the daily, ongoing intimacy of the sisters.  The scene shows Elinor laying another blanket on the bed she shares with Marianne in their small room.  She then wraps a shawl around her nightgown, blows out the candle, and seeks the warmth of the bedcovers and Marianne’s body heat—only to be greeted by Marianne’s complaint that her feet are cold.  Elinor jumps out of bed, grabs some stockings, and returns to put them on.  The intensity of their bond is also dramatized.  At the height of Marianne’s illness, Elinor leans over her unconscious sister, runs a hand slowly up the sheet covering her left leg and, in tears, pleads with her: “I cannot do without you.  Oh, please, I have tried to bear everything else—I will try—but please, dearest, beloved Marianne, do not leave me alone.”  Although such scenes convey the importance of this relationship, they compete with and are ultimately trumped by the other invented scenes between Marianne and Colonel Brandon (who decided that they are trumped?  How can that be stated so definitively?).  His day-to-day presence in Marianne’s life is established by scenes such as that in which he offers her a knife with which to cut reeds, and her growing love for him is established in one of the film’s last scenes, in which he reads to her out on the lawn in front of Barton Cottage (again, though, film is a different medium than a novel.  The narration helps to show how Marianne and Brandon’s relationship comes about, mostly through frequent visits to Elinor at Delafield, but what the substance of those visits and interactions entail isn’t shown – it needs to be invented unless a director is to show a wordless montage of meetings and then cut to the wedding).  Readers who have felt that in marrying Marianne off to the Colonel, Austen was “betraying” her character must surely be placated by this scene and by Rickman’s interpretation of the suitor in general.  The films of both Sense and Sensibility and Emma assert not just the appropriateness but also the romantic pleasures of their heroines’ marriages (Is this a problem?  Emma ends with the line “But, in spite of these deficiencies, the wishes, the hopes, the confidence, the predictions of the small band of true friends who witnessed the ceremony, were fully answered in the perfect happiness of the union” and address the unraveling of her friendship with Harriet with “The intimacy between her and Emma must sink; their friendship must change into a calmer sort of goodwill; and, fortunately, what ought to be, and must be, seemed already beginning, and in the most gradual, natural manner.”  Both of these lines seem to speak to me of appropriateness and the former very much to the romantic happiness of Emma’s marriage).

The recent films of Jane Austen’s novels have increased sales of her books.  But those who read as well as buy are going to discover that the books are not harlequinized (I agree generally with the idea that Austen’s books do not read well strictly as romances, however, I can acknowledge that is my own personal feeling.  Others may feel that they do read as romantic – that they leave them with the same endorphin rush that something a bit more in the standard line of romance novels would provide.  Who am I, who is anyone to say that is wrong?  If one wants to dig deeper into the text, look for subversiveness, lessons, obscure historical references, etc. wonderful!  Awesome!  But don’t do it in a way that implies any other reading is less than.  I doubt Austen looked down on her family and friends for not reading homoerotic subtext into Elinor and Marianne’s relationship (yes, there is a whole essay that exists on this topic), but instead just enjoyed her stories as they were.   We should let others do the same).  When they encounter Edward Ferrar’s silent despondency and Mr. Knightley’s cool sternness (Ha, for the record Mr. Knightley is shown to smile and laugh more than any other of Austen’s heroes, even besting jokester Henry Tilney (yes, I counted. It was that important to me).  So much for cool sterness), the constant, noisy intrusiveness of the Dashwoods’ social circle and the loneliness and solitude threatening Emma, and always the self-discipline required for the good manners Jane Austen advocates—will they continue to be enthusiastic about the novelist?  We can hope that if some new readers are first escorted to the novels by Jeremy Northam and Alan Rickman, they will stay to appreciate the encounters the books stage between wishes and deeds, glorious dreams and mundane material constraints, and, most of all, simple certainties and interpretive ambiguity. (I guess I'm wondering if it matters. Interest in Austen's works survived for decades before the first movie ever came into creation and were widely loved before even those gold standard adaptations of the 90s came to be. There is no reason to think someone who comes away from an adaptation with the "wrong" idea of what her novels are like is an essential piece of keeping Austen's legacy alive. The fandom will survive having people who "miss the point," or those who aren't readers generally (and this could be for many, many legitimate reasons) only be a part of it through enjoying adaptations.)


r/janeausten • • 15h ago

Humor / Meme Am I alone in thinking this thumbnail kind of looks like a horror movie?

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I’m kind of just perusing Amazon Prime right now because I’m sick, and I paused when I saw this and was like “…she looks kind of… sinister?????” 😂😂😂


r/janeausten • • 18h ago

Adaptations Emma 2009

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Emma is my all time favourite Austen book.

Like many here, I suspect, I've read it multiple times but only recently resorted to screen versions.

The Netflix version I found almost unforgivable - nearly put me off any adaptation but . . . . I'm now in the middle of watching the BBC 2009 adaptation starring Romola Garai as Emma.

She is perfect!

I love her wit, combative nature, subtle eye rolling and liveliness!

She captures the part brilliantly - Emma's flaws are there for all to see but her eventual humanity and good nature shines through.

Can't praise the BBC enough!

EDIT: My error! Not Netfix, but the 2020 version I objected to!


r/janeausten • • 14h ago

Adaptations Mansfield park - horror/gothic?

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Just finished watching the 1999 movie and I Am shook!

Is the book this scary? I mean I’m a new Jane Austen fan (trying to get around the books) and her stories transport me to a different world full of longing. But MP opened me up to the horrors of being a woman in those time. If anything this book is more of a gothic compared to Northanger Abbey.

Anyways is the book this dark? Was the movie accurate in character representation?


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Adaptations A shocking realization: Mr. Collins is goals??

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Tonight I finished indoctrinating my 2.5 year old into the ways of 1995 Pride and Prejudice. It’s also the first time my husband has watched the whole way through, and he adored it! Thank goodness, no need for divorce.

I posted a few days ago about noticing Lizzy’s similarities to her mother for the first time. This next observation was my husband’s upon seeing Mr. Collins in his own home as he describes Lady Catherine’s observations on shelving.

“That guy… good for him. He’s just living his very best life, isn’t he? He loves every second of that horrible lady’s attention and meddling in his life, he married way out of his league, and he’s going to inherit Longbourne.”

And I realized… he’s right. Odious and laughable as we all find Mr. Collins, he’s kinda got it all figured out, for his own unique weird self and tastes.

May we all be as fulfilled in our lives as Mr. Collins.


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Adaptations MEGATHREAD - Sense & Sensibility (2026) October Release - "Nay!" Thread - snark welcome - CONTAINS SPOILERS

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This post is for rants and generally critical discussion about Sense & Sensibility (2026), which is currently being released to theatres in Australia, Canada, US, etc.

Nuanced opinions are still welcome, but please direct generally rave reviews, gushing, etc. to the sister "Yay!" megathread. Moderators reserve the right to remove overly apologist or combative comments.

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UK Release Discussions: Yay and Nay


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Adaptations MEGATHREAD - Sense & Sensibility (2026) October Release - "Yay!" Thread - positive vibes only - CONTAINS SPOILERS

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This post is for rave reviews and generally positive discussion about Sense & Sensibility (2026), which is currently being released to theatres in Australia, Canada, US, etc.

Nuanced opinions are still welcome, but please direct generally negative reviews, complaints, etc. to the sister "nay!" megathread. Moderators reserve the right to remove overly negative or combative comments.

Questions about this format? Please see the mod announcement.

No spoiler tags required.

UK Release Discussions: Yay and Nay


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Adaptations Sense and Sensibility adaptations to book comparisons (not 2026)

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I recently read and then watched all the S&S adaptations I have (71, 81, 95, 08) and so here's my thoughts on it:

Things I Want In An Adaptation

  • showing how deeply and privately Elinor feels- while she is very internal she does withdraw to express and I don't think it's laid down enough in any adaptation yet the way Austen lays it down in the early book that Elinor and Marianne are equally deep feelers and share equal sense and reason- Marianne being more romantic and Elinor more reserved.
  • breakfast at Delaford! The outing to whitwell is always shown interrupted in the courtyard which yes Marianne and Willoughby were already on the move but idk it bothers me none of them show the breakfast, I feel it would help cement Brandon as a proper estate owner and gentleman
  • in London when Marianne won't eat any breakfast after the Willoughby ball, Elinor doesn't draw any attention to her but takes up all of Mrs Jenning's attention with conversation, I think all the adaptations have the table silent and awkward except for Jennings, but Elinor draws her out so it would be great to see to what extent this equally heartbroken 19y/o exerts herself for the sake of Marianne being unable to exert herself at all
  • When Brandon tells Elinor of his offer to Edward, and takes her hand, and speaks so seriously to her by the window, Mrs Jennings is sure he is proposing. Afterwards, "all hilarity ensued" when Elinor clears up her misunderstanding- for whatever reason I would love to see this as shot through a window, maybe over Brandon's shoulder as he descends the stairs outside?? Idk the idea of these 2 women engaging in a proper laugh together is so fun and I like the idea of maintaining some of the distance Austen produces in her narration- there is no dialogue or detail of how they talk and laugh about it all, so I like the idea of "through a window"...
  • and then maybe the camera could pan up to Marianne watching Brandon leave because she has started to view him as a Romantic Character after his confession about Eliza and information about Willoughby- I think only the 2008 version does a half decent job of showing that Marianne truly begins to see him differently and doesn't just settle for him but it begins too late, after he has helped her at Cleveland. The pity and romance of his story in London is what first softens her to him imo
  • after Willoughby's engagement is announced everyone is careful not to mention Mr W around Marianne at all and everyone succeeds, and Elinor is upset she can't figure out a way to get them to not talk about it around her as well- I don't know that any adaptation showcases this, or the continuing theme that for every hardship Marianne doesn't shoulder (not hearing about her heartache) Elinor suffers double (hearing about her own AND her sisters)
  • when Edward proposes it would be so simple to follow the stage direction in the book- it's revealed he isn't married while he mangles the scissor sheath, Elinor leaves to cry. he leaves to walk to the village- and in the course of 3 hours he's asked for permission from Mrs D and proposed and they are sitting down to dinner engaged- like I want to see her hit the hall and him hit the front yard, scissors and sheath in shambles, and then maybe he finds resolve and turns back around

1971 - the one with the lashes

  • I like how early on Edward snaps back at Fanny, as diffident and wishywashy as he seems all novel he is in the end a man of character, and, very different to his family- I thought it was a great showcase of their sibling relationship
  • overall probably the best, the most faithful adaptation. A little stage-y but once you get used to the blocking of each scene its a pretty smooth ride
  • all the men have the same very big hair so love that for whichever wig maker made bank in 1970

1981 - the one with the makeup

  • I find this one the worst, but I would watch it over the 2008 one- the sick recovery scene is lifted right out of the 71 version? Mariannes makeup while sick is too much. "teach me the ABC" i cant
  • least favourite jennings and lady middleton, would also take this edward over 2008 for book accuracy
  • I think my favourite willoughby confession though

1995 - the one with no anne steele

  • the runtime is concise, production value is amazing, and while changes are made it wraps up the story very nicely
  • in the book and every other adaptation Marianne gets to bring her instrument to the cottage, in this version Brandon buys one for her near the end after finally finding one small enough to fit their space. I think it cheapens the ending for them
  • Marianne's sickness becomes overtly about Willoughby. In this version she is still completely pining for him and becomes sick over being in the weather over him- I think in the book she is becoming a bit more embarrassed and regretful and more generally self neglectful than actively throwing herself into heartache like when he left Barton or after the London meeting. She's beginning to wonder what his intentions were and to doubt herself, I think her romantic notions bundle this shame with the heartache of losing W so she just snowballs it all into greater self neglect instead of changing her wet socks after gazing in the direction of his house in the rain

2008 - the colonel brandon show

  • very male centered production i thought. Every closeup of Brandon (and the whole duel scene) I shout at my screen WHY
  • the young women characters all look too similar- this is a pet peeve of mine in film and tv, I want each character to be very visually distinct unless its otherwise necessary to have characters be similar or ambiguous. Whenever Lucy came on screen I was like whats fanny doing here?
  • this adaptation (and 1981) just have Elinor wandering around saying yes and what and repeating the last thing someone else just said. She is constantly plying people with the niceties of conversation in the book, her efforts are unending! Give this woman some chatter!
  • the duel?????? not even book accurate duel if you are gonna include one anyway????
  • what even was the point of mr palmer in this one????
  • why are we following Brandon around to see him break Eliza's heart instead of drawing out Marianne, Elinor, and Mrs Dashwoods changing opinions of Willoughby instead???
  • loved the steele's accent in this version. Anne is described as "vulgar" and that could well mean she hasn't learned to drop her locational devonshire accent, while Lucy has more tailored speech. I thought their accents in this version were a good call!
  • Jean Marsh as Mrs Ferrars 👌chefs kiss
  • I'm always interested in how Austen describes her characters and Elinor has "delicate" complexion / skin, I think the actress in this version fit that description well!
  • I don't really like Dan Stevens as an actor like its a mark against me wanting to watch the work, so Edward has that going against him, but I also think Dan has too much natural charisma to portray Edward properly, combined with the kinda masculinization of the character in this version and its like its not even the same guy as in the book so least favourite edward unfortunately
  • this is my least favourite. I've watched it I think 3 times and probably never will again... I like the middletons (wish there was more lady middleton) and mrs dashwood, and john henry. Too much brandon, too much on the men, and too many silent close ups with minimal facial expression where there's SO much wasted opportunity to translate the interior experiences Elinor is having . Instead we get one thousand establishing shots of seashells and waves. Austen's dialogue is apparently notoriously difficult to adapt and instead of trying here just admire the Devonshire coastlin-

Favourite Elinor- 1971; she's posh and young, 1995's is just too collected and mature for a 19y/o desperately trying to hold everyone together; 81 and 08 are too bland and agape for me (they're not fanny price for petes sake!)

Favourite Marianne- 1981; I liked the actress's choice to have a bit of an affectation while she spoke, like a romantic person of that time would have. Like my generation's alt rawr girl, or the one after mine's girls reading twilight and saying you dont GET me and if you dont read you arent deep lol. I liked their return to Barton and how this version highlighted her turn-on to Brandon with his book recommendations

Favourite Lucy- 1971. The cut eye she gives Anne at Barton ommmggg. and I loved her and Anne together pinching and squabbling, shows just the difference in class to the Dashwood sisters

Favourite Fanny Dashwood- 1995; "I am the soul of discretion.... viper in my bosom!"

Favourite John Dashwood- actually I like them all, I think 71 is the weakest but thats the script timing and not the actor imo

Favourite Edward- 1971; particularly like the part where he's dismayed to find Marianne finds him reserved, it pushes this adaption's Edward to the top. He is trying to be as candid and saucy as possible with her and still she calls him reserved!!

If you've seen the new one, spoil it for me in the comments- are they seen having BREAKFAST at DELAFORD?! Or even someone coming down the stairs saying "wow what a yummy breakfast colonel I do declare" ?????


r/janeausten • • 2d ago

Book Covers / Collections / Illustrations "Marianne, wrapped up in her own music" from 1899 edition of Sense and Sensibility illustrated by Chris Hammond

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Christiana Mary Demain Hammond, known by name Chris Hammond, (1860–1900) was an English painter and illustrator. She received her first training in drawing from her governess, and then attended the Lambeth School of Art and Royal Academy Schools. She was one of the most productive illustrators of the 1890s. Best known as an interpreter of classic fiction, she embellished texts by Jane Austen, Maria Edgeworth, W. M. Thackeray, George Eliot and a number of others, as well as contributing to Cassell’s Magazine, The Quiver, and St Pauls. She was also a painter, exhibiting genre pieces at the Royal Academy, The Royal Institute of Painters in Watercolour, the Grosvenor Galleries and in the galleries in Suffolk Street.


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Humor / Meme Made a niche meme, please partake in my joy?

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Hellloooo. I made this meme while working on my recent substack post.

Reference to Trishna (1985), Doordarshan's (India's state owned television channel) television show, and the film Bride and Prejudice (2004), both adaptations of Pride and Prejudice set in India. As you can see, I have a clear preference.

If there's anyone here who has seen it please let me know what you think of the two lol.

Also, if there are takers for the article too let me know, I would love to share it here as well. I'm looking at how Pride and Prejudice has been kept alive through circulation and translation (including various adaptations) across the world over time.

Happy reading and watching yall!

Edit:

So glad to see all the interest on Trishna, it has been fun talking to y'all. Just to clarify what I wanted to say about Bride and Prejudice, I'm adding a link to the article I wrote. https://substack.com/home/post/p-218683962 It's a lot to get into in one post, but I would love to talk about it. But yes, the movie was definitely fun, I just had a lot of odd feelings about it, let's talk about it.


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Pump Room Need help deciding which adaptation to show non-Austen fans

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Keeping in mind that I strongly dislike the 2005 P&P and that there's no way I can convince them to do 5 hours of viewing.

I've been debating with myself what film to show them. I was thinking Persuasion (Ciaran Hinds version) but thought that might be too dry for them. Then I thought Northanger Abbey but I'm not sure they'd get the gothic romance references.

Thoughts? Opinions? The only remotely (very remote) Regency media they've consumed is the tv version of Bridgerton.


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

Read-through Emma, Sporadically - Chapter 6

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I'm thinking pretty much every post is going to be spoiler-y, but I'll try to remember to note that at the top for individual posts all the same.

EXACTLY SO! -This is my favorite example of Austen crafting a unique style of dialogue for each of her characters (Mrs. Palmer's "So droll!" from S&S being a close second). Austen wrote in a way that should make it evident to the reader who is speaking without a need for dialogue tags - each character's own speech pattern/favorite expressions/topics of conversation are usually enough to guide the reader.

"His perception of the striking improvement of Harriet’s manner, since her introduction at Hartfield, was not one of the least agreeable proofs of his growing attachment."

“You have given Miss Smith all that she required,” said he; “you have made her graceful and easy. She was a beautiful creature when she came to you, but, in my opinion, the attractions you have added are infinitely superior to what she received from nature.” -Do you think Austen was trying to give us a strong hint here about something? (I would insert a goofy faced smiley, as is the millennial way, but I actually do not know how to do that in the body of a reddit post).

"Don’t pretend to be in raptures about mine." -I like that Emma sees through this pretense, even when the pretense is superficially, at least, highly complimentary to her. That she would do so even in a chapter in which we are told "and in nothing had she approached the degree of excellence which she would have been glad to command, and ought not to have failed of. She was not much deceived as to her own skill either as an artist or a musician (good!), but she was not unwilling to have others deceived, or sorry to know her reputation for accomplishment often higher than it deserved (bad!).

The annotations point out that this line "She played and sang;—and drew in almost every style;" points to "Emma's intellectual powers and of her inability to channel and direct them successfully," which is very in keeping with what Mr. Knightley said about her in the last chapter.

"But as she wanted to be drawing, the declaration must wait a little longer." -This is a hilariously selfish prioritizing of her pet projects.

"There was no being displeased with such an encourager, for his admiration made him discern a likeness almost before it was possible" -Another shout out to the Paltrow Emma for incorporating this into the adaptation! "You've expressed her completely" says Mr. Elton on beholding a blank circle.

"But it is never safe to sit out of doors, my dear." -I think it would be fun to put together a little book of specious health advice culled from ridiculous Austen characters.

“This man is almost too gallant to be in love,” thought Emma. “I should say so, but that I suppose there may be a hundred different ways of being in love." -This quote was another one that made its way into my teenaged notebook.

"He is an excellent young man, and will suit Harriet exactly; it will be an ‘Exactly so,’ as he says himself; but he does sigh and languish, and study for compliments rather more than I could endure as a principal." -This puts me in mind of "They arise chiefly from what is passing at the time; and though I sometimes amuse myself with suggesting and arranging such little elegant compliments as may be adapted to ordinary occasions, I always wish to give them as unstudied an air as possible" from Pride & Prejudice.


r/janeausten • • 1d ago

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r/janeausten • • 2d ago

Read-through Emma, Sporadically: Chapter 5

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I think I'll be dipping in and out of spoilers, so if there is actually anyone reading along, and reading along for the first time, be warned.

"and by supplying her with a new object of interest, Harriet may be said to do Emma good" -Even the neighbors objectifying poor Harriet!

"I think they will neither of them do the other any good." -There is a good deal to be said that throughout the novel, one needs to pay careful attention to Miss Bates and her seemingly inconsequential babbling so as to properly deduce what is really going on around Emma. Mr. Knightley's insight is similarly very prophetic.

"She will never submit to any thing requiring industry and patience, and a subjection of the fancy to the understanding." -An excellent character summary.

Not so serious - Mrs. Weston responds to Mr. Knightley's criticism with a smile and just a few paragraphs later, Mr. Knightley is noted as smiling too. These smiles are, I think, pointers as to how the overall tone of these conversations should be read. More evidence towards a good-natured, relatively cheerful Knightley!

This chapter is notable in that it provides us with one of the most thorough descriptions of a character in all of Austen. I think it's fair to deduce that Emma, with her hazel eye, and admiration for Harriet's style of beauty (fair with light hair), is a brunette, which makes it all the more interesting that she has been portrayed as a blonde in the majority of the adaptations. Seems like a modern-day societal expectation that the "Queen Bee" types ought to be blondes.

"No, no; she has qualities which may be trusted; she will never lead any one really wrong; she will make no lasting blunder; where Emma errs once, she is in the right a hundred times.” -This has such an interesting mixture of accuracy and falsity. She does have qualities that can be trusted and she does ultimately make no lasting blunders. However, in the course of the novel, she errs repeatedly, and there is not altogether that many instances of her being right for Mrs. Weston's proportion to be considered accurate.

"It is very good advice, and it shall have a better fate than your advice has often found; for it shall be attended to.” -Such a telling little burn directed at the absent Emma.

“She always declares she will never marry, which, of course, means just nothing at all. But I have no idea that she has yet ever seen a man she cared for. It would not be a bad thing for her to be very much in love with a proper object. I should like to see Emma in love, and in some doubt of a return; it would do her good.” -I LOVE THIS BIT! Such gorgeous foreshadowing is exactly what makes this novel so satisfying to reread. I adore how this does come to pass for Emma, and it's Mr. Knightley himself that is the "proper object." I do wonder if at some point in his married life, he remembered he said this and smiled over the recollection.


r/janeausten • • 2d ago

Read-through Help deciphering lines from S&S please!

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Solved! Thank you all!

This may need to become a series of threads as I discover new lines actually. I’ve been trying to get back into reading as an adult, and I’m a big fan of the film adaptation of S&S and the BBC’s P&P.

I finally picked up and finished P&P, and while I found I could understand most of it, there was the occasional line where I realized I couldn’t fully comprehend what was meant. I don’t want to let that happen again while attempting to read S&S, and I’m already fumbling with some lines.

“It was necessary to the happiness of both; for however dissimilar in temper and outward behavior, they strongly resembled each other in that total want of talent and taste which confined their employments, unconnected with such as society produced, within a very narrow compass.”

The tail end of this line is confusing me: “unconnected with such as society produced”?


r/janeausten • • 3d ago

Fan Works An edit I made of the Pride & Prejudice dolls I crocheted

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r/janeausten • • 3d ago

Discussion - Sense and Sensibility A Question Re: The Dashwoods vs The Steels with the Children

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I am going off of memory, but something I’ve been thinking about and confused on is the moments in which the Miss Steels are interacting with Lady Middleton’s children.

Now, I know that Lucy is doing it to ingratiate herself with everyone, and that I believe the children are implied to basically be terrors. I think Lucy spoils them and pretends their perfect?

But the Dashwoods don’t really interact at all with Lady Middleton’s children. I think it’s overtly implied that Lady Middleton takes a shine to Lucy because she interacts with her children actively, but I don’t believe we ever really see the Dadhwoods do so.

Would it have been considered strange for them to do so? Or stranger that they didn’t? What would protocol have been for being around Lady Middleton and her children? Should the children not have been present? Was this sort of a slight on Lady Middleton as much as to show that the Dashwoods didn’t care for trying to ingratiate themselves, while Lucy is obviously underhanded and a liar/manipulator? I always felt it sort of made the Dashwoods seem a bit too cool and superior, but I know that must be lack of understanding.


r/janeausten • • 4d ago

Fan Works I drew Lady Bertram in her most awake state because she's goated

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r/janeausten • • 3d ago

Gifts / Merch / Swag Not a bad weekend if I say so myself 😍

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r/janeausten • • 3d ago

Adaptations Full-cast JA radio plays

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I do a lot of listening (audio books, podcasts, etc.) and recently stumbled onto a site full of "old time radio" broadcasts. I thought some of you might enjoy the Jane Austen section as much as I have enjoyed it:

https://www.radioechoes.com/?page=series&genre=Drama&series=Jane%20Austen%20Collection

A lot of the actors in these radio plays are people you'll recognize. Example: the Emma radio play includes both David Bamber (Mr. Collins, P&P 1995) as Mr. Elton, AND Tom Hollander (Mr. Collins, P&P 2005) as Frank Churchill.


r/janeausten • • 4d ago

Adaptations Thirty years of watching P&P 1995 and noticing something…

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As my mother and I watched Pride and Prejudice 1995 on sick days when I was little, so I have introduced this tradition with my own daughter this week. (A little silver lining to enjoy while we’re under the weather!)

Anyway, we just watched the scene when Lizzy is telling Charlotte about Wickham & Darcy, and I realized that the passion and cadence of Lizzy’s voice when upset - as in when Jane and Charlotte both try to suggest that there may be another side to the story - reminds me SO MUCH of Mrs. Bennet’s huffing and puffing when she’s put out.

I wonder if this was intentional on Jennifer Ehle’s part. Either way, I find it greatly amusing!


r/janeausten • • 4d ago

Discussion - Emma Who do you think Harriet Smith’s parents are?

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I’m watching the 2009 Emma for the first time, and usually I’m not too curious about Harriet’s parents… but this adaptation brought it to my attention.

Do we think Harriet is sort of like Colonel Brandon’s ward, Eliza?


r/janeausten • • 4d ago

Discussion - General Given Names in Austen's Narratives

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I've been rereading a lot of Austen lately, and the more I read the less sure I am that I have as solid grasp on the modes of address. I know the broadest strokes (to address someone by their given name is much more intimate, the oldest daughter is always Miss [Surname] and the younger ones are Miss [Given Name Surname] to distinguish them.) But the patterns of how familiarly people are addressed, both in dialogue and in the narrative, seems to vary wildly with the men in particular, and I can't figure it out.

Bingley follows the pattern I would expect, in that everyone & the narrative refers to him as Bingley, except his sisters, who call him Charles. But in S&S, for example, almost everyone refers to Edward by his given name, both to his face, amongst themselves, and in the narration. Marianne, Mrs Dashwood, Elinor and Lucy all do it (Elinor wavers between the two). Meanwhile, absolutely nobody refers to Willoughby by his given name, and Brandon doesn't even get one! Elsewhere, Darcy is always Darcy, and Wentworth is almost always Wentworth, for example. There are probably more examples but these are the ones that come to mind rn.

Is this just a narrative clarity thing? Like, there are 3 Johns in S&S: John Dashwood, John Middleton, and John Willoughby, and that can be cleared up by having 'Mr Dashwood, Sir John, and Willoughby' (she could have just given them different names... I know there were less, but still...). And there is, infamously, more than one Mr Ferrars too. Then, on the other side, as a distinction between Darcy and other Darcies or Wentworth and other Wentworths doesn't need to be made, it isn't made...? But if this is all it is, it feels odd to extend that into dialogue. Is Edward close enough to the Dashwoods (before he marries Elinor) that they can have no issues calling him by his given name? He's sort of vaguely in their family by being the sister-in-law's brother, is that enough?

If there is a reason that I'm missing it'd be great if someone could point me in the right direction! :)


r/janeausten • • 5d ago

Discussion - Pride and Prejudice Elizabeth Bennet and healthy boundaries

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P&P reads differently now that I’ve become a parent. I have a LOT less patience with most of the Bennets.

But I’m delighted by how good Elizabeth is at relational boundaries.

Her world has rigid social rules, a stiflingly small community, and intense jockeying over status and marriage. Austen gives her a strong sense of what she can control and when she doesn’t have to engage.

The Lady Catherine confrontation was great: Elizabeth stays civil, answers factual questions, pushes back, and refuses to surrender either information or promises that Lady Catherine has no right to demand.

It’s 200 years old, but parts of the exchange read like a modern relationship advice column.

Links: Book / BBC 1980 / BBC 1995 / Movie 2005

In all three adaptations, I love Elizabeth’s expression right after Lady Catherine’s “report of a most alarming nature.” There’s so much happening on her face, and then she just rolls with it.