r/heraldry • • Apr 23 '25

Meta AI Generated Images Are Now Banned

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From this point forward any images created with the use of AI are banned from the subreddit and will be removed by moderators.

This includes images completely generated by AI from the ground up as well as things such as individual AI generated assets or filters used by users in the process of creating an image. For further details on this policy refer to this guideline in our Wiki.

You probably remember this recent post regarding the future of AI generated images on this subreddit. It had previously been in a sort of grey area where it wasn't explicitly forbidden but mentioned in Rule 5 as a possible example of low effort content that may be removed by the moderators:

5 Post with purpose

Posts here should educate, inform, spark discussion, showcase good effort, etc. Low-effort posts such as AI generated coats of arms, “X in the style of Y”, wildly unrealistic hypotheticals or fictional scenarios, and “just because”-type posts may be removed with no notice

A recent increase in AI generated images then led to increased discussion among the community with some calling for increased measures of identifying such content while others further advocated for it's ban entirely.

As a temporary measure we then decided to add a mandatory "AI Generated Content" flair that should be used to designate such content while also inviting the community to engage in discussion about a permanent solution in said post which also included a poll where users could decide between an explicit ban of AI generated images or allowing the regulated use of AI content.

After seven days the poll concluded with a result of

128 - 84

in favor of banning AI content - which is a 65% majority.

While the result of that poll was specifically not intended to be binding for any permanent policy that may be agreed upon in the future it - along with the comments - did clearly show that the majority of the community generally favored a complete ban which was also reflected by the attitudes of the mod team.

As such we have now decided that any images created using AI will henceforth be banned and removed from the subreddit. Any content that was posted before this policy went into effect will remain intact and won't be retroactively removed.

As a result rule 5 has been slightly rephrased to say:

Posts here should educate, inform, spark discussion, showcase good effort, etc. Low-effort posts such as “X in the style of Y”, wildly unrealistic hypotheticals or fictional scenarios, and “just because”-type posts may be removed with no notice. Further, images created using generative AI are explicitly banned and will be removed in order to retain a high standard of authenticity that this historical art and science deserves.

As it was intended as a temporary measure and is now obsolute, the "AI Generated Content" flair has been removed.

Due to the potentially controversial nature of this announcement, comments will have to be manually approved on this specific post, similar to what we did with the initial poll.

We hope that this is an understandable policy and that people will remain civil and uphold it regardless of their personal views on the subject. If anyone personally believes that AI generated images should have a place in heraldry then they're fine to express that opinion and should not be ostracized - however it does not reflect our official stance as a subreddit.

Again for a more detailed explanation of this policy where some potential questions are already answered please consult the Wiki.

Thanks for everyone who voted in the poll or expressed their opinions on the matter.


r/heraldry • • 5h ago

Discussion "Families don't have arms" is horse💩 - stop saying it.

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[ETA because it's apparently needed even though I said it just below: no, I don't think surnames have arms, no I don't think you are inaccurate if you say "surnames don't have arms" and I say it myself here regularly. But unless you would say that to Guillim, Berry, Woodward, Fox-Davies, Ströhl, Neubecker, Pastoureau… please don't feel the need to correct everyone who says "the arms of the X family". If you need to be specific that it's not the whole extended family, just say "only branches of families have arms"]

  1. only if you're in one of the few strict cadency traditions 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇵🇹🇪🇸\)
  2. and only then if you're an insufferable pedant
  3. it always seems to be said here as a way of scoring off newbies
  4. it's been common practice to talk about the arms of a family at least since the 17th century

TL;DR: stop saying "families don't have arms" and say — if you even need to — "branches of families have arms, but surnames don't". But when even the most respected heraldic writers of the last four centuries have been speaking about The Arms of the [X] family***,*** default assumption should be that you don't need to.

Don't take it from me. The College of Arms🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 says;

A coat of arms [doesn't belong to a surname but] is granted or confirmed to one person and their descendants in the legitimate male line so only that family group will be entitled to the coat of arms,* \*)

They go on to say:

[the practice of younger sons differencing] is little used in modern heraldry and members of a family tend to bear their arms undifferenced - the identity of the individual family member being apparent from the context in which the arms are used.

Case study.

I am the oldest son of an oldest son from England🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. I now live in Belgium🇧🇪. Even under the strictest practice:

  • If my dear late grandfather🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 had had arms (used by my grandma also) my father🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 would have them identically (used by my mother also).
  • I would have them with a label, and in due course — may it be far away! — verbatim.

That sure sounds like arms belonging to our branch of the family

  • Meanwhile my children 🇧🇪, assuming they share my name will have them verbatim***.
  • as will my grandchildren🇧🇪 and great-grandchildren🇧🇪 who share my name, no matter if they descend from my sons or daughters.

and even if we're old school and stricter than the current College of Arms (and nothing wrong with that)

  • my younger brother🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 would have substantially the same arms with a little crescent in the corner (and my sister in law🇺🇸 would use them also).
  • Their descendents 🇺🇸 of the same surname would share his arms verbatim.

So yes, arms don't belong to everyone with the same surname - our surname is shared by zillions of other families and yes, they don't propagate backwards. But yes they would absolutely belong to (our branch of) our family!

The image is from Hugo Ströhl, who I hope we can all agree knows his stuff.

\ not sure about Spain. And tell me if there's others that use them for non-nobility arms in the present day, and I'll add them)
\* If you want a hundred other quotes from authoritative sources, lmk)
\** Link in Dutch, sorry, Machine-translation of the relevant bit:) Transferability: A new coat of arms may be borne by the beneficiary and their descendants who carry the same surname. The inheritance of the coat of arms thus follows the family name. In the case of historical coats of arms, the heraldic customs of the time dictated a form of inheritance in which only male descendants bearing the surname would typically pass on the arms. However, once such a historical coat of arms has been officially recognized by the Flemish Government \and the same rules apply to the Francophone community, and for unregistered arms — which may be freely assumed and used in Belgium]), it becomes subject to contemporary practice: the coat of arms may be borne by the beneficiary and their descendants who carry the same surname, regardless of gender.


r/heraldry • • 4h ago

Identify Help Identifying an 18th–19th Century French Count Family Wax Seal

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I have a hand-held wax seal that I believe dates to the late 18th or early 19th century, possibly from France. I would appreciate any help identifying the family associated with this coat of arms.
Description of the coat of arms:
Coronet: A count’s coronet.
Shield: Azure (blue), a chevron Or (gold), accompanied by an arrow with its point facing upwards.
Motto: NON DE FACTA (as currently deciphered from the inscription on the seal).
The shield is supported by two lions rampant, and the entire achievement is surmounted by a count’s coronet.
The seal head appears to be made of brass or bronze, with a turned wooden handle.
Does this coat of arms or motto correspond to any known French noble family? Any suggestions for heraldic references or historical armorials I could consult would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your help!


r/heraldry • • 8h ago

Identify Does this crest mean anything specific?

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Posted this in another subreddit and they suggested I post it here

I received this beautiful necklace as a gift and am curious if the symbol means anything? I love it regardless but would love to see if anyone can help me find out if it means anything.
TIA!


r/heraldry • • 18h ago

OC Ex-Libris I made with my Coat of arms

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I have been working diligently to learn digital illustration and decided to make myself an Ex-libris sticker design based on the coat of arms for my house!

art by me https://bsky.app/profile/thecatfortress.bsky.social or anywhere here https://thecatfortress.carrd.co/


r/heraldry • • 1h ago

Blason de la ville de Djelfa en Algérie

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« C’est les seuls images trouvées sur le net »


r/heraldry • • 17h ago

Fictional How would you Blazon this? (Malkavian Arms from VTM)

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r/heraldry • • 18h ago

Meta TIL about heraldic hatching, a historical method of representing color without color.

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r/heraldry • • 1d ago

Discussion The Coat of Arms with the Dragon's Tongue, Part 3

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r/heraldry • • 1d ago

Current Coat of arms of the municipality of Waldenburg in the canton of Basel-Country, Switzerland

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Or, an eagle vair, langued, beaked and armed gules


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

OC A small kangaroo commission

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94 Upvotes

r/heraldry • • 1d ago

OC Heraldry I made for a friend's OC, ignore the... odd motto it was not my idea

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17 Upvotes

r/heraldry • • 1d ago

Discussion Is that some kind of billety? (Stolberg)

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r/heraldry • • 1d ago

Recent ruling on female grantees and their heirs by College of Arms

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Hi all,

I am very interested in getting the take of the community on this recent ruling by the College of Arms on female grantees and their heirs. I am having trouble understanding it, I confess.

https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/resources/arms-for-a-woman-and-her-children


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

Discussion Can a dragon’s tongue be a heraldic emblem?

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r/heraldry • • 2d ago

Discussion A coat of arms featuring a dragon’s tongue

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Option 2


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

OC Symbols of Nizhinsky district, Chernihiv region

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53 Upvotes

r/heraldry • • 1d ago

Unofficial Coat of Arms

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There is a story of a knight in my family whom is talked about in tradition but has no records. The first documented ancestor I have was Thomas Sheriff who arrived in 1641 in Plymouth, MA from England. This is a copy of the exact same Coat of Arms as the one in L.P. Allen’s book on the Genealogy of Shreve recorded in the Library of Congress. I am curious if anyone knows about this Coat of Arms and its origin. Most stories passed down in Shreve are traditional.


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

OC Symbols of the village of Karashyna, Cherkasy region

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22 Upvotes

r/heraldry • • 2d ago

Symbols of the Boremel community (Rivne region).

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16 Upvotes

r/heraldry • • 2d ago

Discussion Bannerlord Heraldry

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Not sure if anyone on here plays or has heard of Bannerlord but I felt a historical game like this seriously lacked traditional heraldry. Therefore I created a mod for it so people can re create their own coat of arms directly in the game! Please feel free to use it if you are someone who enjoys heraldic design and games lol

Heraldry Studio Mod


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

OC Symbols of the villages of Ivane-Pustyn community, Ternopil region

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r/heraldry • • 2d ago

A newly completed commission of a very special coat of arms.

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133 Upvotes

Commissions are open, by the way.


r/heraldry • • 2d ago

I tried to recreate in drawshield the escutcheon of what seems to be an interim Coat of Arms of Francis I of Austria after he abdicated the holy roman crown in August 1806

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I think this is the only CoA that shows Francis' shortlived titles of Duke of Würzburg and Franconia. Interestingly the Austrian territorries are in the last quarter.


r/heraldry • • 1d ago

[CoA] Fantasy

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Really found a hobby here and now I decided to design or redesign some fiction CoAs, starting with Lord of The Rings and some of its locations.
What would you guys say about this?