r/fo76 • u/Brirko Brotherhood • 16h ago
Discussion Mischief Night frustrations
What’s the point of having a timed uninvited guest that’s barely showing up and definitely not dropping anything, but garbage. I have not seen a single new plan. If they were going to give us two weeks at least up the spawn chance for the uninvited guests.
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u/Junior-Ease-2349 16h ago
I think they might have actually.
Sone folks were reporting it seems like it ticked up the last day or so, and someone quoted a note from Bethesda saying that the univited guests would "be more active" or something.
Which sounds good to me!
Frankly, though even at 20% spawn rate and mildly insensitive tagging the weekly kill 1 slasher wasn;t really bad.
The DAILY kill 6 pints at infestations tho is a HUGE fail. They need to ramp the infestations up, AND make the minions spawn throughout the whole boss fight if they want to keep that a daily.
(It would be more fun for infestations in general too).
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u/Devium92 13h ago
I beat the snot out of an uninvited slasher and it didn't actually count for the daily "kill 1 uninvited" and I was honestly pissed like I do my best to make sure I can get a good tag on a final boss (or extra boss like Squatch and Slasher) but it just didn't count.
It was the first slasher I had seen in DAYS despite doing Mischief Night multiple times each day, and even server hopping just in case it was a weird server bug.
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u/wahlenderten 15h ago
Also would be nice if the dailies don’t include both an infestation and a mischief night. The first one is pretty much an outright reroll for most people, but the second one is a bit of a bummer if you can only play for half an hour-ish and it’s not top of the hour, and you’re out of rerolls.
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u/takoyakioc 8h ago edited 8h ago
Pretty much this. Heck, I don't want either of them to be included in any daily nor weekly, given that how horrible it is to get the chance of even tagging one, regardless of how much time you've spent in the game. My normal play time is 2-5hours for the reference, but when travelling, it's less than half an hour.
With the aggressiveness of the number of the added low occurrence and uncertainty of the spawn in the daily/weekly tasks, it's already horrible for a regular player, let alone for someone who's travelling and would still make an effort to at least complete the daily. It was only barely tolerateable at best in the old days: at this point, it's no longer fun and it's more logical to just drop the game for me.
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u/AttorneyQuick5609 Enclave 13h ago
I've had a decent number of showings, but all it gives is 3 3* legendaries. Nothing else except the normal randomized junk.
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u/theLogic1 Fire Breathers 15h ago
I have seen it five times in total and no, I didn't get a single new plan
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u/ScottClam42 Settlers - PS 15h ago
Yeah that's been my experience. Granted not a huge sample size, but running 5 events the last two days, I had an uninvited guest 3 of those times. I just assumed they bumped the chances to 50%
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u/ledlin99 14h ago edited 14h ago
Totally agree. I reroll the infestation one every time. Considering that for the few hours I played yesterday I had four infestations open and immediately end.
I even had some end before the beginning announcement. There was a total of one infestation that happened correctly.
Edit: I remember hearing that wearing costumes helps somehow. Is that true or a rumor?
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u/Launchpad1 Reclamation Day 13h ago
Costume adds nothing unless there's a specific challenge tied to it.
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u/FiscalClifBar 15h ago
If you don’t one shot/bossmelt the infestation boss, the minions start respawning around the 15 minute mark, at least in Harper’s Ferry.
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u/vsg_boy 15h ago
Also frustrating is tagging the Uninvited Guest and not getting the challenge when the event is over. WTF?
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u/AttorneyQuick5609 Enclave 13h ago
Oh, yeah, still haven't gotten credit, helped kill several of them. It's trash.
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u/AccomplishedFee2116 Enclave 15h ago
There needs to be a Pity system with these low drop rate RNG percentages they use for Infestations and Limited time seasonal rewards. I don't want everything handed to me, but at the same time I've put forth massive amounts of time into grinding for this shit and it's past the frustration point. Yeah this guy might show up a little more than he used to but he still isn't dropping anything smh.
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u/thatsmyupvoteidkyou 15h ago
It also isnt triggering the weekly for killing it when it does spawn cause I definitely just killed it at the last one and it didn't count apparently.
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u/The_Wolfdale Lone Wanderer 15h ago
15 attempts, saw him twice.. the first two in fact.. now 13x nothing
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u/GrottoJoe 13h ago
And the drop rate for the ritual pile goodies seems to have gone to the crapper as well. 12 graves this week and only garbage drops. RNG was kinder last week.
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u/RandomEncounter78 15h ago
It’s not just you, as you can see by the comments. They did increase the chance though. I didn’t see him at all last week and I’ve seen him three times since yesterday (of four).
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u/Rosepony 15h ago
The lack of showing up is bad game design, but they did improve it significantly so that's that.
I'm still farming this event despite not wanting to because I'm missing one thing from the slasher, and I suspect this was their intention, so that people show up for the event and the server feels alive.
Maybe one day a company who hire talent would give us better mechanics, but right now this is all we get.
Sure would be nice if at least we got tokens we could trade for the item we want so that after a while we can guarantee we get it.
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u/Fine_Extension6440 13h ago
Tokens would be a great idea to implement, I doubt everyone wants everything.
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u/Mean_Sea263 14h ago
The point is to keep you coming back for whatever it is the guest is dropping, frequently known as the rewards treadmill.
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u/Tea-Swiz Enclave 13h ago
It's honestly insane. It's like this event was developed by a bunch of Short Bus All-Stars. Maybe they should grab some old devs from SWG to work on these kinda bugs.
😉
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u/Kara_Abbs 11h ago
I did 6 mischief nights last night, had 3 uninvited guests show up and got nothing. I am still unsure what is supposed to drop from them.
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u/AlexBi_420 12h ago
They're apparently upping the spawn chance for the last week. I've definitely seen him more the last couple days than before then
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u/onehappyfella 15h ago
I got the uninvited title on my third one and have not touched it since other than dailies/weeklies. F that event, makes me lag so much
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u/OG-BigMilky Tricentennial 15h ago
Same boat. Hardly shows up and when it does, it just drops junk for me. I’ll keep trying but this event has been a dud for me.
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u/noodle_head7 12h ago
Finally got one and dead in 2 seconds, didn’t get to tag for the weekly. People please let other players tag the uninvited chap for the love of Mothman
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u/Healthy_Brain_9519 Cult of the Mothman 4h ago
I've had the univited guest show up twice and it didn't count towards the weekly challenge.
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u/ChristyLovesGuitars Ghoul 2h ago
They may have ‘fixed’ the spawn rate. I hit I think 6 MN today, and had an uninvited guest four of them. I’m hoping that’s a sign.
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u/SoloRobotix Responders 5m ago
I do think they upped the rates. Saw an uninvited guest 3 times in a row this evening.
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u/Redrive_PC_Build 16h ago
I see him almost every 2nd event. (PC)
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u/4electricnomad Mega Sloth 15h ago
Same here, hovering a bit over 50% after 20-25 events. I don’t think I am getting many of the rare drops, though.
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u/idiot_noise Mega Sloth 15h ago
Basically same. I hop a lot of servers during this event cycle though.
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u/Talentless-Hack-101 15h ago edited 15h ago
I'm PS5 and it's streaky for me, but I've been tracking it and it's damn near 50% spawn rate for me.
Longest I've gone without a spawn is 7 events, but then I had 9-of-11 with a spawn.
That said, the drop rate it atrocious. I've gotten the hay bale throne, bat plushie, and scary scarecrow outfit repeatedly and nothing else.
I don't get their obsession with always having to have multiple layers of awful RNG on everything nor their refusal to use a "known plans" check on boss drops (like SBQ with the prime plans).
EDIT: I don't need 7 hay bale throne plans for goodness sake!
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u/GaryC357 Enclave 15h ago
Its been a long while but 2-3 years ago they had a known plan check in place & you woulnt get duplicates until you exhausted the loot pool. They did that because players were raising hell about getting nothing but caged light bulbs & valley galeria signs. It was really bad.
I havent done Ops for a long time because once I worked my way through the loot pool I stopped.
Just started doing them again for the slasher plans & they either removed the known plan or broke it. I'm now getting nothing but caged light bulds & valley galaria signs again.
I'm not going through that bullshit all over again.
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u/Talentless-Hack-101 14h ago
Yeah it's absolutely ridiculous. I get the same damn plans over and over and over again
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u/Putkavahti Ghoul 16h ago
Uninvited Phantom chance was increased on weekly reset Don't know by how much but if had to guess it's 50% or more.
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u/Wolf_of_Walmart 15h ago
What’s wild is that I got uninvited guest twice in a row on the same server last night. One dropped Wanted Poster 1 and the other dropped Wanted Poster 2. Think they might be juicing the odds a bit to respond to complaints.
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u/sasuke198x 15h ago
I play a couple hours every day and I've had him come twice and dropped a plan once. I guess I got lucky?
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u/Admirable-Leader6927 15h ago
i have been to less than 20 events and have duplicates of the plans, only missing the title really.
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u/Launchpad1 Reclamation Day 14h ago
You can get the Uninvited title from any uninvited guest in the game
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u/vrillsharpe Free States 15h ago
Saw him one out one times yesterday. He didn't drop any unique items.
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u/Emotional-Relation59 15h ago
Been doing the event a couple of times a day since the event came out and just found out about the dude 2 days ago cause he’s only spawned once lmao
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u/bugdiver050 Ghoul 14h ago
Ive been seeing him a bunch since yesterday, got both plans and 2 of the 3 weapons. Maybe i just play too much though, as im online all day basically
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u/makapeji 14h ago
Last night I had about 5 MN events and he showed up to 4 of them, only got the new sword and the jack o lantern flair, Jack in the box backpack, large death claw gargoyle and crooked fence plans. They definitely turned up how many times he shows up.
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u/Hell_Derpikky Mothman 13h ago
wait, after the ventibird we have an uninvited guest? who tf is that guest?
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u/Frankenfoote_787 13h ago
I had three in a row last night on my private server was thinking they upped the spawn rate 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Natural-Spray221 12h ago
I feel like he’s too weak when he does show up too. Seriously by the time I got to the other side of the vertibot to shoot him everyone else had already killed him so I didn’t even get one shot in
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u/turbulentwatermelon 6h ago
Ive seen it twice. I thought it was a fluke at first until I started seeing these posts lol
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u/Sec0nd_Wind 3h ago
At least the unique weapons are meant to be obtainable thru daily ops too so that lessons the fomo if true
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u/disturbednadir Cult of the Mothman 15h ago
My frustration is more that nobody waits for people to show up before starting it.
Last night I saw the notification pop, finished what I was doing, and less than a minute after the notification, I was there, and they were already at the cabins.
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u/RoamerDC 15h ago
Unfortunately, the general consensus of this sub is that 76 is a non-cooperative/solo game where any other server inhabitants are inconsequential, being no different than NPCs, and therefore are not afforded any measure of common courtesy.
If you have a small group of friends and at least one of you has 1st, doing the event in a private world removes a large component of said exhibited toxicity.
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u/DustBunnyAnna Lone Wanderer 13h ago
It's also very ironic to complain about people not cooperating and being uncaring while being the one who are hostile to people who just prefer to play another way.
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u/DustBunnyAnna Lone Wanderer 13h ago edited 13h ago
Accusing solo players for causing this behavior is wild, because most multiplayers usually have problems with toxic and selfish players. This game has less of those than most online multiplayers, even though it has generally more solo players.
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u/RoamerDC 13h ago
I’m not necessarily calling out actual solo players, but rather players who may well join teams to reap the benefits, but play with the attitude that they are the only ones on the server that are important, and the other (up to) 23 be damned. And that is representative of the attitude in this sub, which is just a small subset of the overall player base.
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u/DustBunnyAnna Lone Wanderer 12h ago
I don't see it as the main attitude of this sub, but it's another example of the extreme divisions in this playerbase and sub, which is the actual representation of the player base. I see as much discourse in here by players who don't like that solo players play this game at all. Posts and comments with wildly different opinions will be heavily upvoted or downvoted depending on which side of the player base gets ahold of a thread first.
I don't join public teams personally, but I also recognize that the majority is going to join them just for the benefits, because thats the norm in this playerbase. I see a lot of selfish attitudes in game from people who are very clearly heavy raid farmers, and therefore can't be solo players. Either way, I think people should be able to play the game as they want.
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u/Sage_Thornbriar 15h ago
Got the chance to play for about 6 hours yesterday and ran into him 2 times and he dropped nothing but garbage.. this is super fun!! It doesn’t make me want to actively quit the game at all….
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u/5C0L0P3NDR4 Ghoul 14h ago
rng is the devil because meanwhile i think i've gotten him on the first mischief night i run most nights
isn't this supposed to be fun for Everyone
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u/DiscombobulatedAd479 Pip Boy 15h ago
And I admit it’s my fault but dying right before he spawns and not tagging him has happened as well as my game crashing before he died.
The game crashing I managed to pick up my loot still by rejoining the same team
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u/agon024 Enclave 15h ago edited 15h ago
You don't need to tag him to be able to loot him. Half the time he appears I don't even shoot him I just wait for everyone else to kill him cuz people are going crazy and I'm still able to loot him. Any uninvited guest is like a legendary enemy you do not need to tag them to loot from them you just need to be within a certain range.
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u/DiscombobulatedAd479 Pip Boy 15h ago
Possibly I was out of range that I died right before but good to know I don’t need to tag him.
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u/Gloomy_Box8929 Settlers - Xbox 16h ago
The worst part is that the event is a blast, but you leave disappointed if he doesn’t show up. I would much rather see him appear 100% of the time. They could even decrease the drop rate of the rare loot as a compromise
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u/ledlin99 15h ago
This is so bizarre. Yesterday I did 2 and he showed up at the first one.
Since the event started I have got him like maybe 4 or 5 times. And so far I haven't got anything good from him except a scorpion plushie backpack mod.
It always seems so bizarre that it seems to happen more to some and never for others. I felt that way with salt of the earth. It took me forever to find one (50+ graves). I still haven't found the gold paint yet.
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u/Launchpad1 Reclamation Day 14h ago
The backpack mod does not come from him, it's from Mischief Night.
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u/Diceman85 14h ago
If I remember correctly the scorpion plushie backpack skin is from the regular Mischief Night loot pool not from the uninvited phantom slasher. I played that event A LOT last time because it was new for me and remember I got a few of those.
I did 1 - 2 Mischief Nights every day and so far the only special loot I got from the slasher was 1x Acceptable Overkill.
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u/ledlin99 14h ago
You reminded me on the first mischief night i ran this time he showed up and I got the acceptable overkill.
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u/onall4our 12h ago
I wish it only took me 50 graves, I just got salt of the earth yesterday after digging so many graves each day for the past couple weeks I lost count
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u/Educational-Claim984 2h ago
The only reason I am still digging graves is the hunt for the gold paint. 23 Salt of the Earths, 0 Gold paint.
And I have only done mischief nights 4 times, but I have seen the uninvited guest each time. Only one useful drop.
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u/AppalachianViking 15h ago
Hopping on this, had anyone had a Mischief Night that never ended? Last night, the guest showed up (finally), we defeated him, and the Quest Completed text never popped up, I got no drops at all, no XP, Like 8 of us probably apent 5 minutes just milling around waiting, and nothing. I wasn't in menus and missed it either.
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u/_purplesunset Mr. Fuzzy 13h ago
Strangely today he's shown up at every Mischief Night I've done today so far, which is 7. Not got anything good from him though of course, apart from Scrip and Stimpaks 🤣
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u/Upsetty325 Order of Mysteries 13h ago
I have seen him 3 times and it still did not click off the quest
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u/foxybritches 12h ago
I got the uninvited guest each of the 3 events I played last night. One of my challenges (I can't remember if weekly or daily) was to kill 1 uninvited. When the event is heavily populated, it can be tricky to make sure you get a hit on him before he goes down. At least, that's why I figured the challenge wasn't completing - I must not have gotten shot in. The third time, I DEFINITELY got several shots in, but the challenge still didn't complete. Not sure what the deal is there but it's real frustrating.
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u/ExactHandle5839 11h ago
I've gotten one pint size slasher hat plan last week and a brotherhood combat mask or some nonsense apparel item from it today. So much hooray.
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u/Lynxbug 14h ago
Not just that but when they DO show up you can’t get a shot in. Either too many ppl are in the way or VATS fails. (Yes I know it’s percentage based). Or. Maybe it’s I did hit him but get no credit for the kill.
I agree it’s entirely ridiculous to make it a daily this time they made it a weekly. I’m probably gonna reroll it.
Oh! Also. If the killshot is what counts, then they definitely need to spawn more of them. Because with how many people play the game and how often they spawn, that’s just not OK.
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u/upuranus66 Vault 76 16h ago
It's absolutely ridiculous. I've gone as many as eight events without seeing an uninvited guest. That's just not fun.