r/flyingeurope • • Aug 18 '26

MOD NOTAM Automoderation Enabled

37 Upvotes

Hi all,

Due to the sheer volume of immigration posts, and with people ignoring the rules and the PSA, I’ve configured AutoModerator to quarantine these posts when they’re made. Because of how AutoModerator works, I may need to tune it over time, as it operates based on certain keywords.

For those who post immigration questions without reading the rules or the PSA: your post will be removed and you will receive a temporary 14 day ban.

For those who try to evade auto-moderation, or post immigration questions after a temporary ban: you will be a permanent banned.

I rely on your reports to help moderate this subreddit, so please keep reporting any rule-breaking posts you see.

Thanks.


r/flyingeurope • • Feb 10 '26

MOD NOTAM PSA: Non-EU Citizens and Right to Work

86 Upvotes

There have been near-daily posts from non-EU citizens asking about training to fly in the EU and securing airline employment here afterwards.

This post aims to address those questions clearly and permanently - the answer is always the same.

NOTE: if you are a non-EU/UK citizen who does have the right to to live and work in Europe, but wants to ask a flying related question, please state this clearly in your post otherwise it will be removed 🛂

For those who post immigration questions without reading the rules or this PSA: your post will be removed and you will receive a temporary 14 day ban.

For those who try to evade auto-moderation, or post immigration questions after a temporary ban: you will be a permanent banned.

Having an EASA Licence ≠ Having the Right to Work

You can absolutely train in Europe and earn an EASA licence — but that licence only gives you the qualification to fly.

It does not give you any legal right to be employed in the EU.

Who Has the Right to Work in the EU?

Under EU law, the right to work freely across EU member states is tied to legal citizenship/residency status. You must fall into one of the following categories:

1. Citizens of an EU Member State

If you hold citizenship of any of the 27 EU member states, you have the automatic right to live and work anywhere in the EU under the Freedom of Movement Directive (2004/38/EC). This also extends to citizens of EEA countries (Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein) and Switzerland under separate bilateral agreements.

2. A Valid Work Visa or Residency Permit from an EU Member State

If you’re a non-EU/EEA national, you would need to independently secure a work authorisation in whichever country you wish to work. Options vary by country but may include:

- The EU Blue Card — an EU-wide scheme for highly qualified workers, though eligibility and implementation varies by member state

- National work permit schemes (e.g. Germany, Ireland, Netherlands)

Note that securing a work visa is something you must arrange — it is not something an airline will do for you.

Airlines Will Not Sponsor You straight out of Flight School

This point cannot be overstated.

European airlines — from big airlines like Ryanair, Lufthansa, and easyJet, to regional operators — will not sponsor a work visa for a pilot who is fresh out of flight school.

They may occasionally sponsor experienced captains.

There are several practical reasons for this:

- The EU labour market has a substantial pool of EASA-licensed pilots who already have the right to work

- Sponsoring a work visa involves significant legal, administrative, and financial overhead

- Most airlines’ HR and legal structures are simply not set up for it

- There is no competitive incentive to do so when EU/EEA candidates are readily available

This is not a matter of preference — it is effectively industry-wide policy.

So What Are Your Options?

- Train in Europe, work elsewhere - An EASA licence can be converted or validated in many countries. If your home country’s authority accepts it, or you obtain a separate national licence, you can pursue a career there.

- Acquire EU residency through other means - If you have a path to EU citizenship or long-term residency through ancestry, marriage, or an independent job offer in another sector, that makes working in the EU possible.

Summary

Hopefully this clears things up.

Feel free to ask questions in a more immigration focused subreddit.


r/flyingeurope • • 8h ago

EASA Cheapest ways to get initial class-1 in Europe

5 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

I'm looking into getting my class 1 rating to start ATPL training.
I'm from Belgium, but sadly all our medical centers are full until beginning of 2027 + it costs around 1000 euros here.

Has anyone travelled to get their medical done in another EASA state, and if yes, where?
I'd like to calculate if it's worth the travel expenses or if I'd better wait and do it here in Belgium.

Thanks in advance!!


r/flyingeurope • • 7h ago

Commercial WizzAir Holding Pool

3 Upvotes

Hi! People in wizzair holding pool - how long are you waiting?

When did you complete your assesment?

Anyone attended recruitment day and got info about waiting times?

Share your info for others ;)


r/flyingeurope • • 5h ago

Student Pilot AFA Ryanair Mentored APS MCC – Corrected document

2 Upvotes

Hi everyone!

I’m currently applying for the Ryanair Mentored APS MCC programme at AFA and was wondering if anyone has experienced something similar during the application process.

After submitting all documents, I noticed that one of my documents had a discrepancy, so I contacted my flight school to obtain a correct one.

Two days after I sent the corrected document, explaining the discrepancy, but haven’t received a reply yet. The initial confirmation of receipt came quite quickly (same hour), so I’m unsure whether the updated document has been received and forwarded to the Ryanair recruitment team.

Has anyone here had to correct or replace a document after submitting their application to AFA? Did you receive a confirmation, and was the updated document taken into account without any issues?

I’m mainly trying to understand whether this is a normal administrative situation and whether I should simply wait a few days or follow up with AFA.

TLDR: Has anyone had to submit a corrected document to AFA after applying for the Ryanair Mentored APS MCC? Did AFA acknowledge the updated document, and did it cause any issues with the application?


r/flyingeurope • • 7h ago

Student Pilot WAPA/Ryanair FFA/UK modular

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WAPA vs Ryanair Future Flyer Programme – thoughts?
Currently doing my UK PPL and weighing up two potential routes into the airlines.

I’m half British, half Cypriot, so I’m eligible for both WAPA and Ryanair’s Future Flyer Academy.

WAPA is an option I could apply for now, but how competitive is it really? Does anyone know the acceptance rates or have experience with the selection process?

Alternatively, I could spend the next year completing my UK ATPL theory and saving for Ryanair Gateway 1, while also completing the EASA ATPL exams required for Ryanair.

Long term, I’d prefer to be training towards an EU airline rather than going modular in the UK and potentially ending up as a white-tail.

What would you do in my position? Apply for WAPA now and see what happens, or focus on building towards Ryanair FFA while saving?

TLDR Ryanair FFA, WAPA or Uk modular white tail any opinions welcome


r/flyingeurope • • 9h ago

EASA Does anyone have this book:-EASA ATPL Handbook by Hédi Ben Farhat

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r/flyingeurope • • 5h ago

Student Pilot Assessments at large ATOs

1 Upvotes

Has anyone ever been rejected from an ATO during these assessments they do? Not including the airlines ones of course, only including white tail stuff. If you can breath and have the GSCEs surely they take anyone who fits that criteria.

Was discussing with a friend earlier and both of us are modular so haven’t got a clue on stuff like that however we both sat for a couple and were accepted to all despite not being stellar candidates.


r/flyingeurope • • 12h ago

EASA Netherlands: Which APS MCC to choose from?

3 Upvotes

ESPT does not offer Aps Mcc to outsiders anymore, therefore, I will have to choose either Orbit's Aps Mcc or SimFlying's.

Which one is better recommended for me to enroll in?


r/flyingeurope • • 10h ago

Student Pilot Preparation for testair360 wapa

1 Upvotes

hi is there anyone whod like to prepare for testair 360 together? im waiting for the responses below!


r/flyingeurope • • 14h ago

Student Pilot Aviomar

1 Upvotes

Hello, is there anybody at Aviomar at the Moment, that could give a short review about this flight acadamy?

Kind regards


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA Freshly licensed pilots: How is your job search going? / was?

29 Upvotes

Greetings friends,

This question goes for people that completed their license recently:

How was or still is your job search?

Did you have any luck?

Did you apply for many positions?

Are you happy?

etc...

I will soon finish my modular path, and I'm trying to get a sense of the market today, in all EASA land (but feel free to mention UK too, as many users are from there and this post can serve all users)

Kind regards


r/flyingeurope • • 10h ago

UK CAA UK petition - Be civil

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Just reposting as It's been some time. If anyone could take a look at the petition it would be greatly appreciated, if you agree with the premise then signing up would help massively and if you don't agree then feedback is useful too. In any case please share this as much as you can to raise awareness.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/771680

Please note that the petition was proof read and edited by a third party, the petition itself is only to open the door to discussion and does not strictly have to mean rejoining EASA, it would however be useful for talks regarding reintroducing recripical licencing and trade for pilots, maintainance staff and other personnel associated with aviation in the UK and Europe. As well as to get the view by our current government in these uncertain times.

Currently as it stands the UK views Easa as a third country and as such the licences cannot be used for validation or conversion of a UK one, despite the fact that only a few years ago it could. The lack of information around this time lead to many people acting on lacking information, trying to keep ahead of a government policy that was unclear and indecisive until many were well underway with their exams. Because of this some people opted to take both the UK CAA and Easa exams, while others went with Easa predicting the governments wouldn't harm themselves, nor the aviation industry to the extent that it has.

Many views and concerns have been discussed from support to objections.

Points that have been raised are such:

Rejoining would mean submitting to european courts and laws - The uk already is subject to european laws especially regarding certain sectors, the automotive one of course has close ties for the production of european spec vehicals. Also within aviation itself there are numerous Easa commercial pilots operating in British airspace in Euro reg aircraft under foreign aocs, while this is authorised by the UK caa and government, it poses questions as to how close of a relationship the authorities should have.

There isn't the political will - due to being political in nature this has raised strong opinions on either side, some to the point of being spiteful, the response in favour of rejoining or being more reciprocal is often that we don't know unless we vote on it.

Safety - Another view is that it would improve safety and understanding through common requirements and understanding. Rejoining would harmonise aviation across europe and give more bargaining power as far as ICAO is concerned. The standards would lead to increased safety as there would be less paperwork, beurocracy and red tape.

Economical and individual benefits - Views expressed that it would boost the economy and help to grow the British aviation sector, as the canditate selection pool for most aviation personnel would be less narrow. Co-operation would increase trade, decrease training costs, give more flexibility to aspiring pilots, engineers and cabin crew for potential basing, training and costs.

It would also allow those of us with a stranded licence to convert back to a UK without the requirement to resit all 13 exams and at our cost. Some I personally have spoken to expressed discontent at the situation, some have moved countries to chase work, others are waiting to see what unfolds and many have gone to the middle east who accept Easa licences and they cannot now justify leaving work for potentially a few years.

Objections to this include concerns over immigration, while a valid concern especially given what much of brexit was about, it should be pointed out that any legislation regarding immigration would still be based on individual governments as visa requirements still apply.

These are just a few views expressed from either side.


r/flyingeurope • • 23h ago

EASA UK CAA CPL ME-IR to EASA CPL ME-IR Flight Training Required

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Does anyone know of any EASA approved ATOs in the UK or Europe where I can perform the necessary training to gain my UK CAA CPL(a) ME-IR onto my EASA (Irish Aviation Authority) licence?

As I already hold an EASA (IAA) PPL(a) licence with SEP(L) and Night Ratings, I am required to complete the necessary upgrade training and testing requirements as defined in EU Part-FCL. However, I am aware that an ATO can credit my UK CAA training hours and provide a reduced course.

I have spoken to Stapleford, Aviation Southwest, AFTA, National Flight Centre and Flight Training London; however, they are all either fully booked or withdrawing their EASA training approval.

Does anyone have any experience of completing EASA training with their previous ICAO hours credited?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot 22M, EU Citizen, €100k, Need guidance.

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Hope everyone is doing well and flying safe

I'm 22 years old, have a masters degree in software engineering and I can never see myself working an office job ever again, it's soul crushing. I had more fun and felt like I had a purpose working like a slave at a warehouse or delivering packages as a teenager. I am certain I want to fly for a living. Even if it means slaving away building hours for a few years before I make it.

I inherited around €100k and I want to invest in myself and instead of putting in some index fund, I want to bet on myself.

Already did basic research and I just need some guidance before I fully commit to a path.

Goal is working at an airline.

Don't care where the flight school is.

I am thinking of going the integrated path, potentially work at a flight school until I finally have enough hours to work at an airline.

For those of you who already "made it" (working at an airline right now), what would you have done if you could go back and had 100k to spend?

Thanks.


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Medical Class 1-medical with low iron/anemia

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I did my initial medical checks a week ago and everything was good except my iron stats, they said I have anemia my hemoglobin was a bit under what it should’ve been and my ferritin was 7 which was fine since it was supposed to be in 6-67. Either way I was advised to take iron supplements for 2 weeks and go take a new blood test to see how it has improved.
Do yall think I can get my medical even if I have anemia now? I’ve never felt weirdly tired, I just get dizzy for 3s when I get up from bed🤣


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot Applying for the WAPA Cadet Program

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How long did you prepare for WAPA and what percentage do you need to get on the aptitude test to pass that stage? What was the hardest part for you?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA DLR physics and technical knowledge. Wtf

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So, I started studying for the DLR exam stuff and am currently doing the Phy/TVT part. And I have to say WTF are they asking there.

Weird things related to black holes and their event horizon (I dont plan on flying that high)

Cherenkov radiation (why would I ever need that)

Loads of things that I have never seen or used as a pilot in the US neither during training nor in the job

And TVT there is also so much unnecessary stuff in there especially about engines (not even turbines), I am interested in these kinds of things but I dont see why any future pilot would need to know the difference between a diesel and petrol engine or how a steam engine works

What is the point of all of these physics and technical knowledge that doesn't even have a use case down the line in the job? I really start to doubt the whole thing as other tests focus exclusively on aviation related topics in these fields.


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot Experienced with Center air pilot academy (CAPA) in Roskilde Denmark?

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Hi guys, is there anyone here with experience or thoughts about CAPA in Roskilde Denmark? I've looked into them as a potential flight school to apply to. I'd be relocating from a nother nordic country IF I were to get in. Would be great to hear from an alumni or someone still studying there!

Their SAS MPL program seems to be an interesting chance during their training, as well as the few airline collabs they seem to be marketing.


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

Student Pilot Forget flow item during checkride

1 Upvotes

Hi, quick question, can you fail your checkride if you forget items during the flows, even if you fix them with the checklist ? This might seem like a dumb question but I want to be sure. Thanks


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

Student Pilot ATPLQ

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Hi everyone , i have a question about using ATPLQ to study for the PPL exams
Is studying exclusively with ATPLQ enough to prepare for the PPL, or should I also use other study materials?
I started with Principles of Flight and have already completed all the questions,I'm consistently getting positive results because I understand the subject, but in some cases, I also know the answer simply because I've seen the same question several times.
How can I tell whether I'm genuinely prepared for the exam or just getting a false sense of confidence because I'm familiar with the questions?
Has anyone used ATPLQ to prepare for their PPL exams? I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences and advice. Thanks!


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

EASA Ryanair Gateways

3 Upvotes

Hi all,

I’m looking to do my EASA ATPLs with a view to getting onto a Ryanair gateway scheme. However, as I’m only a UK citizen, a flight school has advised me that it’s not worth it.

Does anyone have any input?

Thanks


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

Medical Can I obtain a Class 1 medical certificate after experiencing panic attacks, suicidal thoughts, and taking antidepressants for an extended period during my teenage years?

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Hi everyone!

I've always dreamed of becoming an airline pilot, ideally flying the Boeing 737. I'm now seriously considering starting my flight training, but there's one thing that really worries me: will I be able to pass the medical examination and obtain an EASA Class 1 Medical Certificate?

During my teenage years, I went through a very difficult period in my life. Due to an extremely challenging move to another country, difficulties adapting to a new environment, and psychological trauma associated with PTSD, I developed panic attacks, sleep problems, and suicidal thoughts.

As a result, I underwent treatment and took antidepressants for an extended period. All of this happened during my teenage years.

However, my condition gradually improved over time. I've been feeling stable for many years now, and I no longer experience the problems I struggled with back then. Furthermore, I subsequently completed my military service successfully, managed my responsibilities, and generally adapted well to military life.

Now, I want to move forward and pursue my lifelong dream of becoming an airline pilot. However, I'm afraid of investing several years of my life and tens of thousands of euros in flight training, only to discover later that my medical history makes it impossible for me to obtain a Class 1 medical certificate.

I understand that every case is different and that the final decision rests with an aviation medical examiner. I'm not looking for a guaranteed answer; I simply want to understand how realistic my dream is and whether it's worth pursuing.

I'd be extremely grateful for any advice or personal experiences. Thank you to everyone who takes the time to respond!


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

UK CAA [UK] Modular ME CBIR credits

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Can a CB-IR applicant who has 15 hours of instrument instruction with an instructor without IR-training privileges this was for my imc rating, plus 15 hours of PIC instrument time under an IMC Rating can i claim 30 hours of combined credit under the-multi engine CB-IR course.

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about this ?


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

UK CAA The final slog.. PoF, Perf, M&B & Ops…

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I’ve so far passed a number of ATPL exams and am on the final Module 3 slog (BGS) and just wondering how you found these exams? How did they compare to the likes of GNav, FPM, Met etc. I am fully aware that it’s very subjective and everyone is different, but I’m keen to hear your take. Or is it a case that actually if you can pass GNav, Met, FPM etc you’ve got a good shot at the last ones?
Thank you 😊

P.S I’m sitting UK CAA