r/eu4 • u/Budget-Rhubarb-5577 • 13h ago

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Orleans declared independence from france. In the peace deal, Orleans got a lot bigger and burgundy gained a couple provinces. I (England) got Maine and Auvergne (I chose to surrender Maine instead of doing the hundred years' war). ORLEANS DID NOT GET INDEPENDENCE! WTF, Paradox?

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u/MnMs1818 13h ago

So irl in history the various French dukes fought a war against France in the League of the Public Weal. The goal was never to gain independence, but simply take as much power and land as possible. Paradox simulates this by having appanages just never declare independence for some reason

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u/DuGalle 13h ago

Yeah, the appanage AIs never pick the independence option.

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u/AbbreviationsOk3040 12h ago

It’s because the Appanages want to BECOME France, I think it’s supposed to simulate. They’re all technically one country in a way, but just very decentralized and have a unique type of way they rule their country. They’re all very similar families.

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u/Active-Cow-8259 6h ago

Thats not even bad gameplay, they dont really need Independence If they can use the warscore to weaken the Overlord and strenghen themselves.

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u/rule5bot 13h ago

u/Budget-Rhubarb-5577 provided the following Rule 5:

Orleans declared independence from france. In the peace deal, Orleans got a lot bigger and burgundy gained a couple provinces. I (England) got Maine and Auvergne (I chose to surrender Maine instead of doing the hundred years' war). ORLEANS DID NOT GET INDEPENDENCE! WTF, Paradox?

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u/Draugtaur Sinner 4h ago

Yeah I think it's specific to appanages. Same way as they can fight each other, iirc. Normally independence cb requires you to take independence before anything else, because otherwise it's just too cheesy.

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u/pontaken 3h ago

it's actually broken when you pick burgundy you weaken the france appenages declare independence but just get bigger and then you annex them for 0ae via your mission