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r/ChineseHistory • u/fries-eggpanvol8647 • 23h ago
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How to study Ancient Chinese Bronze Inscriptions
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The Qing Dynasty had already become a tool of foreign powers, so why did they stand idly by during the Xinhai Revolution?
r/ChineseHistory • u/soozerain • 1d ago
Were women out and about in 19th century China? Would one see them in the streets just as men do or was female seclusion the hard and fast rule?
By that I mean would one see them going to festivals, shopping for groceries or visiting family? I ask because in the few photos I’ve seen of 19th century China, it seems like an entirely male world. At least in public. There’s never any woman in sight.
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How did Han Chinese women style their hair during the late Qing Dynasty?
r/ChineseHistory • u/Melodic-Maximum446 • 2d ago
Can anyone explain to me why the Yuan and Ming dynasties were so unable to keep their census in touch with reality?
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Mao Zedong admiring Hong Xiuquan
Hello I am currently doing a research project about the Taiping Rebellion and its impacts. I’ve seen multiple times articles mentioning how Mao saw Hong Xiuquan and the rebellion as somewhat of a predecessor to his own and just overall looking up to Hong Xiuquan, but where does he day that? I would like to cite it.
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r/ChineseHistory • u/AttorneyOk5749 • 2d ago
Estimation of Information Transmission Speed via Ancient Chinese Beacon Towers
According to *The Ordinance on Beacon Fires of the Borderlands* (*Sai Shang Feng Huo Pin Yue*) recorded on the Juyan Han bamboo slips, a comprehensive set of early warning regulations was established. By pre-analyzing potential enemy movements, specific beacon signals and their various combinations were used to convey distinct meanings. These pre-arranged signals enabled the Han army to quickly and accurately ascertain enemy situations in order to mobilize troops for defense.
If the Xiongnu invaded the upper border of the Henandao during the day, two cylindrical markers (*peng*) on the beacon tower had to be hoisted high, a large cloth flag (*biao*) flown from the flagpole in the fortress courtyard, and a stack of reed fuel (*jixin*) ignited. If the attack occurred at night when visual markers such as *peng* and *biao* could not be seen by neighboring beacon towers, regulations required the ignition of a stack of *jixin*, along with two torches made of bundled reeds (*jichu*) lit on the beacon tower, which had to be kept burning continuously until dawn.
Additionally, *The Ordinance on Beacon Fires of the Borderlands* records that under favorable weather conditions, the propagation speed of the beacon signals reached 580 kilometers per 24-hour day, which translates to an average speed of 24 kilometers per hour.
The organizational structure of the beacon tower system was divided into three levels:
The Basic Unit (Sui, 隧): As the grassroots organization of the Han dynasty's watch system, the sui served as the backbone of the border surveillance network. Each sui was staffed by one sui leader and two to three garrison soldiers.
The Intermediate Unit (Bu, 部): The organizational tier one level higher than the sui was called the bu. Each bu consisted of six to nine sui.
The Highest Level (Houguan, 候官): Within the watch system, the houguan was a management body superior to the bu, specifically responsible for the defense of a designated region.
At that time, the distance between two adjacent beacon towers was approximately 3 to 5 Han li (1,200 to 2,000 meters). Each beacon tower was garrisoned by a sui leader and two to three soldiers, who took turns working in shifts to stand atop the beacon platform for day-and-night lookout duty (historically known as houwang). They monitored for Xiongnu incursions and Han citizens fleeing across the border. During the day, they also patrolled the smoothed sand strip surrounding the beacon tower (known historically as tiantian, or "heavenly field") to check for footprints and determine whether anyone had passed through.
Consequently, based on this framework, various direct calculations of early warning times can be made, making it possible to inversely estimate the central government's response time following a border incident (though it would certainly not be entirely precise).
According to historical records:
The Westernmost Beacon Towers: Located at the foot of the Congling (Pamir Mountains) and the border of Dayuan, corresponding to the eastern foothills of the Pamir Mountains, Wuqia County, and the Shule (Kashgar) region in present-day Xinjiang, even extending to the fringes of the Fergana Basin in Central Asia (the kingdom of Dayuan during the Han dynasty).
The Easternmost Beacon Towers: Located in the northern Korean Peninsula and beyond the Liaodong borders, corresponding to the Taedong River basin in the northern Korean Peninsula (the northern part of Lelang Commandery in the Han dynasty), as well as the borders of the Four Commanderies of Han in eastern Jilin and Liaoning provinces, China.
The Northernmost Beacon Towers: Located in the northern desert beyond the Yin Mountains, Yanran Mountain (Hangai Mountains), and the southern fringes of Siberia, corresponding to the north of the Yin Mountains and the Hangai Mountains (ancient Mount Yanran) in present-day Mongolia, extending into the vast northern grasslands south of Lake Baikal.
The Southernmost Beacon Towers: Located in Lingnan (Baiyue region) and Rinan Commandery (northern Indochina Peninsula), corresponding to central Vietnam (Rinan Commandery of the Han dynasty, with its seat near present-day Quảng Trị Province, Vietnam), Hainan Island, and the southern parts of Guangdong and Guangxi.
Currently, there are four complete chains of beacon tower networks:
1. The Hexi Corridor to Juyan and Dunhuang Defense Line:
Dunhuang Urban Area ↔ Yumen Pass Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 90 km (beacon signal transmission time: ~3.7 hours).
Dunhuang Urban Area ↔ Yang Pass Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 70 km (transmission time: ~2.9 hours).
Yumen Pass ↔ Yang Pass: Positioned in mutual support to the north and south, with a straight-line distance of approximately 65 km (transmission time: ~2.7 hours).
Zhangye Oasis Core ↔ Juyan City Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 320 km (transmission time: ~13 hours), taking the Zhangye Oasis in the middle reaches of the Heihe River basin as a reference point to Juyan Lake at the northernmost tip of the Juyan Frontier.
2. The Northern Border Defense Trunk Line (From Shuofang and Wuyuan to Outer Liaodong):
Built by the Han dynasty north of the Yin Mountains and the Hetao region over thousands of li to defend against Southward Xiongnu cavalry incursions.
Stretching from its western starting point at the seat of Shuofang Commandery (present-day Shilazhao Ancient City, north of Hangjin Banner, Inner Mongolia) to the easternmost Han Great Wall defense line in outer Liaodong (present-day Daning River Wall Ruins west of the Ch'ongch'on River, North Korea), the surface straight-line distance of this northern border defense trunk line is approximately 1,850 km (transmission time: ~77 hours).
3. The Western Regions Oasis and Traffic Trunk Local Network (Lop Nur/Loulan to Qiuci/present-day Kuqa and Luntai/Protectorate of the Western Regions):
Loulan ↔ Han Dynasty Wulei City Ruins (Luntai): Straight-line distance of approximately 380 km (transmission time: ~16 hours).
Loulan ↔ Han Dynasty Qiuci Ancient City Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 520 km (transmission time: ~21.6 hours).
4. The Capital Tactical Early Warning Defense Line (Yin Mountains / Shuofang — Chang'an / Ganquan Palace Line):
Built between the northern front line and the capital to establish a direct "beacon hotline" to the central government, enabling Emperor Wu of Han to stay informed.
Yin Mountains Core Outpost (Southern Foothills of Langshan) ↔ Han Chang'an City Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 620 km (transmission time: ~26 hours).
Yin Mountains Core Outpost (Southern Foothills of Langshan) ↔ Han Ganquan Palace Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 520 km (transmission time: ~21.6 hours).
Seat of Shuofang Commandery (North of Present-Day Hangjin Banner, Inner Mongolia) ↔ Han Chang'an City Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 580 km (transmission time: ~24 hours).
Seat of Shuofang Commandery ↔ Han Ganquan Palace Ruins: Straight-line distance of approximately 480 km (transmission time: ~20 hours).
Here is another hypothesis: in reality, the majority of military intelligence was transmitted primarily through post stations (postal relay systems). However, if we were to use beacon towers to transmit rapid military intelligence regardless of the cost, then:
Chang'an ↔ Dunhuang Commandery: The modern straight-line distance between the Western Han capital of Chang'an (site of the Han Chang'an City ruins in present-day Xi'an, Shaanxi) and the core seat of Dunhuang Commandery (site of the Shazhou Ancient City in present-day Dunhuang, Gansu) is approximately 1,700 kilometers. The fastest time to transmit emergency military intelligence from Dunhuang Commandery to Chang'an would be 71 hours.
Chang'an ↔ Wulei City (Protectorate of the Western Regions): The modern straight-line distance between Chang'an and Wulei City, the seat of the Protectorate of the Western Regions (southeast of present-day Luntai County, Xinjiang), is approximately 2,450 kilometers, meaning the fastest time to transmit emergency military intelligence to Chang'an would be 102 hours. This illustrates that the greatest difficulty for Central Plains dynasties in governing the Western Regions (present-day Xinjiang) was the sheer physical distance, which resulted in prohibitive costs and extremely slow response times.
Chang'an ↔ Juyan Core City Site: The modern straight-line distance between Chang'an and the Han-dynasty core city site of Juyan (site of the Juyan Ancient City in present-day Ejina Banner, Inner Mongolia) is approximately 1,150 kilometers, and the fastest time to transmit emergency military intelligence to Chang'an would be 48 hours, or roughly two days.

The Chinese original text is provided below(中文原文附后):
根据居延汉简《塞上烽火品约》记载了比较完整的预警条例,通过预先分析敌情,分别以特定烽火信号及不同组合表达不同的含义。这些预先约定的信号,可以令汉军迅速而准确地知道敌情,以便调集军队进行备战。如果白天匈奴人入侵河南道上塞,要高悬两个位于烽火台上的筒状标志物(蓬),并举起一面布帛制作的大旗帜(表)悬挂在坞院的旗杆上,并点燃一堆芦苇堆成的积薪。如是夜晚来犯,蓬与表之类无法被附近的烽燧看到,就要求点燃一堆积薪,此外还要在烽火台上点燃两只芨芨草捆扎成的火把,且要持续点到天明为止。
同时《塞上烽火品约》还记载,天气良好情况下,烽火信号前进速度为一昼夜580KM,换算下来平均每小时24KM。
烽火台组织架构分为三级:
基础小组为“隧”:隧作为汉代候望系统的基层组织,是汉塞候望系统的中坚力量。每个隧设隧长1名,戍卒2-3人。
部:比隧高一级的组织机构称“部”。每个部由6-9个隧组成。
最高等级为“候官”:在候望系统中,候官是比部更高一级的管理机构,具体负责某一区域的防御。
当时两个烽燧之间距离约3-5汉里(1200-2000米),每个烽燧由隧长加2-3名隧卒来驻守。隧卒要分工轮流站到烽台顶上昼夜瞭望(当时称为“候望”),监视有无匈奴人入侵以及汉人越境逃亡,白天还要巡视烽燧周围的沙地(当时称为“天田”),检查有无脚印,以确定是否有人出入。
因此根据这个方式可以做出很多比较直接的预警测算时间,可以反推边境出现问题后中央政府的反应时间(肯定不会绝对准确)。
根据资料记载:
汉朝最西端的烽火台在:葱岭(帕米尔高原)脚下与大宛边境,今新疆帕米尔高原东麓、乌恰县、疏勒(喀什)一带,甚至延伸至中亚费尔干纳盆地(汉代的大宛国)边缘。
最东端烽火台在:朝鲜半岛北部与辽东塞外,今朝鲜半岛大同江流域(汉代乐浪郡北部)及我国吉林、辽宁东部的汉四郡边境。
最北端烽火台:漠北阴山、燕然山及西伯利亚南部边缘,今蒙古国境内的阴山山脉、杭爱山(古燕然山)以北,乃至贝加尔湖以南的广大漠北草原。
最南端烽火台:岭南百越与日南郡(中南半岛北部),今越南中部(汉代日南郡,治所在今越南广治省附近)及海南岛、两广南部。
目前看完整的烽火台链条一共有四条:
1.河西走廊至居延、敦煌防线,敦煌市区 ↔ 玉门关遗址:直线距离约90公里(烽火台传递时间约3.7小时),敦煌市区 ↔ 阳关遗址:直线距离约70公里(烽火台传递时间约2.9小时),玉门关 ↔ 阳关:两关一北一南遥相呼应,直线距离约65公里(烽火台传递时间约2.7小时),张掖绿洲核心区 ↔ 居延城遗址:直线距离约320公里(13小时),以黑河流域中游的张掖绿洲为参照点,到居延塞最北端居延泽的直线距离约为320公里(13小时)
2.北部边防干线:从朔方、五原至辽东塞外,这是汉朝为了防御匈奴骑兵南下,汉代在北方阴山及河套以北修筑了连绵万余里的亭障与烽火网,以汉代朔方郡治所(今内蒙古杭锦旗北什拉召古城)为西端起点,到辽东塞外最东端的汉代长城防线(今朝鲜清川江以西大宁江长城遗址),这条北部边防干线的地表直线距离约为1850公里。(77小时)
3.西域绿洲与交通干线局部网,罗布泊(楼兰)至龟兹(今库车)、轮台(西域都护府),楼兰↔汉代轮台乌垒城遗址:直线距离约380公里(16小时),楼兰 ↔ 汉代龟兹故城遗址:直线距离约520公里(21.6小时)。
4.首都的战术预警防线,阴山/朔方 — 长安/甘泉宫一线,方便汉武帝了解情况。北方的防线与都城之间建立了可以直接向中央预警的“烽火通道”。阴山核心前哨(狼山南麓) ↔ 汉长安城遗址:直线距离约620公里(26小时),阴山核心前哨(狼山南麓) ↔ 汉甘泉宫遗址:直线距离约520公里(21.6小时),朔方郡治所(今内蒙古杭锦旗北) ↔ 汉长安城遗址:直线距离约580公里(24小时),朔方郡治所 ↔ 汉甘泉宫遗址:直线距离约480公里(20小时)
这里再做一个假设,实际上更多的军情传递是通过驿站为主的方式,如果不计成本以烽火台来传递快速军情,那么:
西汉都城长安(今陕西西安汉长安城遗址)与汉代敦煌郡核心治所(今甘肃敦煌市沙州故城遗址)的现代地图直线距离约为1700公里,从敦煌郡将紧急军情传递到长安的最快时间为71小时。
西汉都城长安(今陕西西安)与西域都护府治所乌垒城(今新疆轮台县东南)的现代地图直线距离约为2450公里,那么从西域都护府将紧急军情传递到长安的最快时间为102小时,这里可以看出,中国中原王朝对于西域(今天新疆)治理最大的难度在于物理意义的距离太远,导致成本极高与反应时间极慢。
西汉都城长安(今陕西西安汉长安城遗址)与汉代居延核心城址(今内蒙古额济纳旗居延城遗址)的现代地图直线距离约为1150公里,紧急军情传递到长安的最快时间为48小时,差不多两天时间。
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Railway mounted B-13 130mm coastal gun of the PLA navy coastal defense force 21st railway gun regiment in Second taiwan strait crisis. 1958 or 1959.
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Where do i start on Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period?
Hello
Im trying to look for material for a creative project of mine and wanted to know if any of you people had any material recommendations of where i might start regarding the five dynasties period?
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It doesnt need to be anything super dense or in depth, though theres no problem if thats your recommendation. Any type of media would work as long as its in english.
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TIL that British stole tea from China through Robert Fortune who shaved his head, wore local Chinese clothing (including a pigtail), and posed as a wealthy official from a distant province to hide his accent. And stole 20,000 seeds to break China’s monopoly on tea by growing it in then British India
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