r/apple • Island Boy • 12h ago

HomeKit Apple's Long-Delayed HomeView Was Already Being Tested in 2024

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/10/14/apple-homeview-tested/
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u/grandchester 10h ago

And the HomePod mini 2 and the appletv. They were waiting to release them when Apple Intelligence was ready. So they've been just sitting there for years. I hope they iterate pretty fast on the next version now that these are out the door. I wouldn't buy any of these products.

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u/sonar_un 9h ago

This is going to be a product that sits for 4 years and never gets an update. Then it’s going to disappear quietly.

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u/Neg_Crepe 8h ago

No way they don’t sell an update with smaller bezel and a bigger screen in a year

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u/rpool179 2h ago

Aka the version that should have been released in the first place. This model is essentially almost 3 years old.

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u/wart_on_satans_dick 9h ago

Apple doesn’t really have a history of that. Even the Apple Vision Pro got an updated version last year.

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u/7485730086 7h ago

Quite the opposite. If this was ready to release in 2024 or 2025, there’s probably a new version with a lot of changes coming next year.

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u/God_TM 10h ago

Super lackluster

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u/Chadwickr 9h ago

I’ll be replacing my minis because I find Siri AI to be a banger most of the time, but yeah this is the first new launch where I didn’t care even a little bit about the product. I don’t need some foreboding looking tower with an Apple Watch XL glued to it to control my home.

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u/primalanomaly 1h ago

This is Apple we’re talking about. If it isn’t a MacBook or an iPhone, it doesn’t iterate fast, it just stagnates. Apparently a $5 trillion company can’t afford to employ enough people to work on all of its products at once.

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 12h ago edited 12h ago

Apple's new HomeView underwent regulatory testing in October 2024, and it was running what would now be known as HomeView software version 18

For added context, iOS 18 was the software that brought AI to the iPhone 15 and 16 (16 came out 2024). HomeView has been around since then, but was delayed back in March 2025.

In April 2025 it was reported that it was delayed to "next year" (2026)

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u/Trick-Plantain5146 12h ago

I imagine this also explains why it has an A18 chip rather than the A19 chip from 2025.

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u/Captaincadet 11h ago

These units have probably been in a warehouse sat down for a few years

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u/soundman1024 11h ago

Apple famously hates warehouses. Or at least Steve did. This seems like some tea.

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u/7485730086 7h ago

Tim does. He’s the one who describes electronics inventory like milk, at risk of spoiling.

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u/rugbyj 50m ago

That's just his excuse for bathing in it.

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u/ccooffee 11h ago

I wonder if people will be able to find a manufacturing date somewhere on them, like the original HomePods that appeared to all be from the original production run even though they were still being sold years later.

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u/Captaincadet 11h ago

I doubt it - Apple switched to random serial numbers a few years back because of this

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u/wart_on_satans_dick 9h ago

That’s not how production logistics work. Even if hypothetically a major manufacturer like Apple had the exact specs down years prior to deployment and changed nothing, it’s still less expensive to manufacture them close to release and then meet supply. Having a bunch of devices in a warehouse is expensive and unnecessary.

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u/RobotRelease 11h ago

What needed to be tested so hard though? They already have iOS on iPads and iPhones and WatchOS which is basically what this is. It’s a glorified iPhone lock screen information display.

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u/iChao 11h ago

Most likely they were waiting for a “good” Siri to be ready.

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u/Captaincadet 11h ago

Yea it’s probably all be components needing to be put together but the promise of a good Siri was needed for this to work

I guess this product plays into the “bad Siri” scandal that happened in Cupertino

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 9h ago

but the promise of a good Siri was needed for this to work

Apple also promised this in a now deleted ad from early 2025

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u/fraseyboo 8h ago

The A18 is in the new Apple TV too so I guess it’s just a workhorse chip they can manufacture pretty cheaply and know very well. The MacBook Neo runs on the A18 Pro and the Studio Display uses the A19 so it’s not unusual for older chips to find use in other products.

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u/geniusaurus 5h ago

I believe they usually use binned chips with lower core counts that couldn't be used in their premium product lines as a cost savings measure.

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u/Endogamy 35m ago

The new Apple TV uses the A19 (but should have used the A18 if it would save a few bucks, because that thing is outrageously overpriced).

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u/thewildbeej 12h ago

and it looks like technology from 2024...really 2022. I've never seen an apple product get such a poor reception. Everyone pissed in apple's cheerios yesterday.

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u/SocomPS2 11h ago

It’s basically CarPlay so pretty much 2014.

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u/thewildbeej 11h ago

I'll split the difference being a homepod at 2018 lol.

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u/9Implements 10h ago

It doesn’t support third party apps so it’s less functional than Chumby which went on sale May 2008.

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u/Thud 8h ago

I gotta think that for the past 2 years Apple has been thinking "should we actually release this?"

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u/7485730086 7h ago

The colors are definitely 2022-2024.

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

What were you expecting from a home controller device lol? This will do well, especially for that price.

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u/thewildbeej 10h ago

if you're happy good on ya. Every tech reviewer I've seen was underwhelmed. I'm underwhelmed and I don't understand the pricing. Why would I pay $300 for just the screen and then also need to pay an additional $100 for a charger/mount. It's ridiculous that you're getting less but charged the same as the full version and then also not getting the hardware included.

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u/originalfilmscoring 8h ago

Things said about almost any Apple product launch and proven massively incorrect within hours.

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u/thewildbeej 7h ago

How'd that work for vision pro?

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u/joshtlawrence 7h ago

You ever used it?

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u/thewildbeej 7h ago

did Apple ever sell more than 1?

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u/__theoneandonly 6h ago

I mean, we'll see. But recent new categories like HomePod and Vision Pro have been truly underwhelming.

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u/fizzymarimba 12h ago

Shocked because it was one of the only Apple releases that seemed like something useful and a real move forward for the Apple ecosystem.

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u/thewildbeej 11h ago

I was really interested in the door bell camera too because fuck ring and amazon. I wanted someone who wasn't going to hand over data to police without a warrant. Then they went and picked LG to make it...fucking idiots.

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u/OutsideMenu6973 12h ago

They were doing so good at bespoke tech for awhile but I guess it was never about that it was just about having stuff that looked different form the competition bummer

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u/thewildbeej 12h ago

bespoke is an odd way to describe mass produced hardware. I'm not sure I understand the point you're making?

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u/KitchenNazi 11h ago

Bespoke = sure is expensive to me - must be bespoke! 🙄

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u/redunculuspanda 2h ago

I would pick one up on sale. I have been wanting to replace my alexa’s for a while. I have home assistant so i can make pretty much anything homekit accessible.

The only issue for me and is lack of Spotify support.

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u/cultoftheilluminati 11h ago

Inb4 they introduce a software locked feature in an update to sell these things lol

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u/Kmann1994 8h ago

“Everyone” or do you just mean the Reddit minority? This app is a bubble and as soon as you realize that, the smarter you become.

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u/thewildbeej 7h ago

or you could have read below where I mentioned it was tech reviewers too. I'm pretty confident with the huge push back on surveillance that people are less interested in cameras in homes.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 12h ago edited 11h ago

$300 for a device that will sit there and collect dust

I have a Nest Hub Max and only use it in my kitchen to watch YouTube while I cook

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u/peazley 12h ago

I never really got why all the home automation folk want screens everywhere to control it. You have a phone, tablet, computer, tv that can display any of that any time. I want home automation to be invisible.

Why can't they just add multiple user accounts to all these devices instead? Stupid that we still have to buy multiple iPads for a family to use instead of letting everyone use the same iPad.

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u/notmyrlacc 11h ago

Sometimes it’s nice to just not have your phone always on you.

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u/Two-Space 11h ago

Yeah I honestly like the idea of something like this that exists as an actual fixture in my house.

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u/dafones 10h ago

I’m with you, I do think it makes sense to have a communal touch control for the home.

I, personally, don’t have tech in my house that would need this sort of hub, but it makes sense to me.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 10h ago

But not for $300

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u/dafones 10h ago

As between the Gen 4 Apple TV and the home view, the touchscreen home view doesn’t seem outrageous at US$300.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 9h ago

How often would you be using the Homeview?

How often would you use the Apple TV?

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u/dafones 8h ago

I’m just talking about components.

Personally, Apple TV gets hours of use, daily. I don’t see homeview getting anywhere near that kind of use in my household.

But that still doesn’t get you past that homeview has a touchscreen and speakers that AppleTV doesn’t.

It’ll be interesting to get component breakdowns for the two devices once they get torn apart.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 8h ago

You have to have the iPhone or iPad to setup the Homeview and the device has to be in close proximity to the Homeview for it to work.

I could see maybe $150 but at $300 that’s just too steep

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u/iMacmatician 10h ago

I think we're seeing a sort of "analogification" of technology where society is slowly moving a tiny bit away from do-it-all devices like the iPhone and iPad to avoid detrimental screen time.

Special purpose devices like the HomeView are an important part of a more focused digital experience.

In retrospect, Apple adding the Action Button on the iPhone 15 Pro was an early sign because it can move an operation off the screen to a physical button.

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u/simonsb 7h ago

I see this as like the modern “family computer in the living room”

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u/Peteostro 11h ago

I find it odd that people do not realize a massive amount of people do not wear clothes with front pockets, or pockets that can hold a phone. When inside your house your phone could be anywhere. That’s why smart speakers and smart screens are so popular

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u/CriticalEngineering 11h ago

Also I want to be able to look at my family calendar while also on the phone and/or reading through emails or looking at MyChart.

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u/peazley 11h ago

Ok sure. Guess I’m old school and prefer not to have a bunch of screens everywhere. Home automation should just work, not require me to monitor it 24/7 from a screen, phone included. But we’re a single tv household.

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u/No_Chilly_bill 8h ago

what called you wear don't have pockets?

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u/frozenelf 8h ago

The biggest point of friction of smart homes is not solved by something like this. I'd really rather have more choices, especially us in the Asia market, for smart switches and ways to control automations and appliances in the house for people who aren't me.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 11h ago

The phone does all this way better plus most people have their phone within close vicinity

I don’t change my thermostat often enough to justify monitoring it on a $300 device

I only check my cameras if I’m not home which renders the Homeview useless

Idk what all I’d do on it if I had one

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u/Thud 8h ago

It would have been nice if they at least put some environmental sensors or air quality sensors in it. With the Apple Watch focusing on health metrics, the HomeView could augment that.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 8h ago

I watched a YouTube video about the Homeview, it looks like it has to have an iPhone or iPad within close proximity to work, if so then why not just do what you need to for smart home stuff on the iPhone or iPad

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u/ThatGuyTheyCallAlex 7h ago

If it’s anything like the HomePod experience, the nearby iPhone will pick up the “Hey Siri” every time anyway lol

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u/OwnProfessor3287 2h ago

lol I know and that’s so weird.

When I’m cooking sometimes I’ll say “Hey Siri set a 5 minute timer.” Sometimes Siri on my Apple Watch will set the timer, sometimes it’ll be my iPhone, and sometimes it’ll be the HomePod mini in my daughters bedroom lol

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u/see_blue 7h ago

People buy $1200 iPhone Pros and only use about $400 worth of the feature set.

People buy $65,000 trucks, drive alone, and never carry anything in the bed.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 2h ago

So people should pay $300 for an Apple TV even though they’re only using $20 worth of it?

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u/Middle-Bread-5919 1h ago

Not “should”, “will”.

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u/I-Have-Mono 11h ago

Yeah, I wouldn’t buy it if you already know it’s going to collect dust for you! Strange comment.

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u/Ok_Temperature6503 6h ago

The whole smarthome thing is such a weird thing to me. The only use I could see is automatically turning on/off lights but it costs a literal fortune to replace enough lightbulbs for it to be worth it

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u/OwnProfessor3287 2h ago

It’s weird to me too. The only thing I have is the Google cameras and a Nesthub Max. I like to check on the house when I’m not home.

I was curious to check out the Nesthub Max, I thought it a few years ago but hardly use it.

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u/MyPackage 10h ago

Same. I use my Nest Hub Max to set timers and watch YouTube TV while I cook. I doubt this will even be able to run YouTube TV so it will be even more more useless than my Nest Hub

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u/OwnProfessor3287 10h ago

Yeah the home view is definitely a major miss mostly due to the price point given its not of much use

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u/extracoffeeplease 43m ago

Collect data*

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u/ZeroWashu 11h ago

I am suspecting the table top version was supposed to have a larger screen but stability issues have delayed it. Their own video with that family using it made it so obvious it is too small plus they even drilled a hole into their breakfast table :)

Plus every thing they demoed could be better done on a phone

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

Apple, the company famously known for having bad hinges and unstable desktop monitors? You're delusional if you think Apple couldn't make a 9 inch screen if they wanted to.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 11h ago

MKBHD said it’s a pass

I just can’t picture myself using a Homeview often enough to pay $300

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u/Sunny2121212 5h ago

I preordered but then came to my senses and cancelled

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u/Little_Bookkeeper381 5h ago

i bought two. it's a step above the homepod mini in sound and it means i can pick music easily across the house. i also have smart switches, so being able to pick scenes or a specific room will be nice. i think i'll probably end up getting a few more.

they're not particularly expensive either. i have a lot of homepod minis in my house and i suspect ill end up upgrading some of those as well.

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u/DonFatTony 3h ago

Not particular expensive?

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u/Little_Bookkeeper381 2h ago

i guess if $300 is a lot to you than it is. idk!

maybe go buy some alexa dots instead of homepods? they cost half as much.

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u/VariationAgreeable29 11h ago

Maybe it was the launch video that turned me off to the whole thing, but I don’t have a chaotic house filled with overly precocious kids. I don’t need to schedule five people’s calendar at once nor track them. I don’t need to FaceTime specifically in one room of the house and even more specifically at the kitchen counter. I don’t need to stream Apple TV content from my phone to a screen that’s not much bigger, when my TV or iPad are literally in the same room or nearby. I don’t need another device for Siri. I can set timers for my Apple Watch. And I’m perfectly happy with the schedules I’ve set for my nest thermostat and it’s only two of us in the house, so it’s no big deal if somebody changes the temperature. Beyond that, I already have Sonos with inset speakers in all my rooms. That works just fine with my Spotify subscription. So yeah, I’m struggling to see how this is even on my shopping list

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u/funkbass796 11h ago

Yeah, sounds like you don’t need a device like this at all, and that’s ok! If you’re not in the market for a Skylight calendar then you’re probably not the target audience.

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u/VariationAgreeable29 11h ago

A skylight calendar. Wow, I don’t even know what that is!

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u/top_lager 10h ago

Then who is? Lmao that’s more of OPs point because the average is more like him than not. This entire product is stupid.

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u/funkbass796 9h ago

Families. I have three kids and we don’t live near any of our relatives. We FaceTime grandparents and the kids like to FaceTime their cousins a lot. I have a HomePod mini in my kitchen as well as the aforementioned skylight calendar. Both get used a lot by my kids for playing music while they help cook meals or track chores and morning/bedtime routines, and my wife and I rely on the skylight calendar for a good visual representation of our family’s schedule during the week. It would be nice to replace both of those with a single device

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u/Juan_Kagawa 10h ago

I’m probably going to get a few for older relatives, a tabletop FaceTime device is way nicer than them holding a phone or iPad up to part of their face.

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u/simonsb 7h ago

This. Anytime I FaceTime my father with the kids it’s basically his chin and the ceiling. Having a tabletop device like this may work wonders if he can figure it out. Which sadly isn’t likely.

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u/FrozenJackal 10h ago

It’s the fact that this device is merely a locked down iPad mini attached to a HomePod mini. This would have sold better as a iPad charging stand. I already have an iPad and if it went into home os mode on the charging stand that would be rad. But no I have to go buy a whole new device. I’m out.

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u/sowaffled 9h ago

A MagSafe dock that activates a mode on the docked device is what a product person would think is the solution.

Apple is reaching for the G4 nostalgia rather than creating the future.

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u/theREAL_Harambe 10h ago

I don’t understand this either. Dashboards aren’t usually something the casual audience is after. I do have use for dashboards but I’ve just made my own with old iPads and fire tablets with home assistant and an HTML front end.

I feel like anyone in need or want of a dashboard is already sufficiently techy to have partially begun the home automation journey, and this is incredibly poor value compared to what you can do with a $70 tablet.

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u/SuperTed321 10h ago

I’m not techy and really want to build a dashboard :(

(I do agree with your statement for 99.9% people)

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u/bp510 10h ago

Vibe coding is your friend

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u/AreWeNotDoinPhrasing 9h ago

Literal perfect use case for AI. They’ll get you up and running in a day. Hell, can even give you links for everything you’ll need. Probably all in single conversation without losing context.

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

Why do you have Sonos speakers in all your rooms? Can't you just use the speaker in your Apple Watch if you want to listen to music in every room?

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u/VariationAgreeable29 10h ago

Lolol yeah the funny thing about doing in-ceiling speakers is that they’re incredibly affordable and the sound quality is crazy good. The beauty of Sonos is you don’t need to use Sonos branded speakers. It’s just the device that all the wires plug into

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u/CostcoHotDog150 11h ago

This is the worst Apple product in years

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u/mtstoner 8h ago

Let me tell you when I saw mock ups of this I was so excited. Finally I can ditch my kitchen echo show for something that’ll be polished! I thought, I’ll be able to stream and make video calls and everything will just work seamlessly. No streaming video is such a letdown. Why would anyone need this? It’s a glorified clock radio.

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u/ElGringon504 7h ago

Yeah I’m pretty disappointed in the chip and a few other things more I learn about it. I just see this being very slow handling a lot of simple tasks, especially in a couple years. I made the decision today to make my own using an iPad Air M4, a beats pill, and using my bambu 3-D printer to create a dock for them. I’m just going to create a new iCloud for the family on this and use guided access to lock it to Apple Home. I made a terrible AI mock-up real quick, but I think I’m going to have it vertical so that I can have it charge when it’s docked and use a smart outlet to turn it off and on to keep the power between like 30% and 70%. It will also fit the pill that somehow got very elongated by AI here

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u/BenSimmonsFor3 7h ago

Has AI helped you with 3d printing at all?

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u/HVDub24 5h ago

I have Claude connected to Fusion 360 and my 3d printer and it’s been amazing. From my bed I can just text it what I want and hours later it’ll reply with a picture of the finished product on my printer bed

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u/Tex-Rob 6h ago

Feels like it should have been a software mode like CarPlay, a new feature of iPad OS. Then they could have introduced magnetic base stations with speakers as an option. This would allow you to go as big or small as needed, from iPad mini on up. They could even tout it as a way to use your old iPad so you can get a new one.

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u/joshtlawrence 9h ago

People moan all day long that they wish Apple made a product in a certain category and then they do and then people moan about it. I personally would love what is essentially a HomePod mini with a visual aspect. I don’t think it’s meant to be some amazing new product. It’s just Apple making something official for all the people using iPad Minis plugged into their wall as a home hub for years and I think it’s great for that. It’s just a HomePod Mini Pro and I think it does a great job at that.

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u/Top-Researcher-1107 8h ago edited 8h ago

Same. It’s literally in its name - HomeView. It’s a screen for, you guessed it, the Home app. And Apple Music speaker with a screen. Two main things people use currently with voice only commands. Now with a screen.

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u/mannnerlygamer 11h ago

Who wants to bet the thing that held them up was the switching user feature

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u/__theoneandonly 6h ago

No, the thing that held them up was Siri AI. Apple Intelligence is a key part of this thing's story, and they didn't want to ship it with the old version of Siri, and they didn't want to make more promises about what Siri could do "in a future update."

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u/ZeroVoltsGiven 1h ago

You mean the infidelity mode?

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u/AreWeNotDoinPhrasing 9h ago

Doesn’t seem like it would be that difficult to implement. Especially for how well their software and hardware already work with locations.

An example, wreck my mtb yesterday on a jump and hit my head. Didn’t realize my AirPods Pro 2 had fallen out of my ears until several hours later, well after dark. And not until I pulled the case out of my pocket after the ER visit to make a call and saw they were empty.

Pulled up Find My and tada, they were out on the trail were I wrecked haha. It was going to rain overnight/early AM so I had to go out in the pitch black but was able to easily find them.

And that tech is in those tiny little headphones.

The rest of the tech already exists as well. And the pro 2s came out years ago, these are the lightning version even.

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u/Ok-Bodybuilder-3388 9h ago

I know this device has bot been awe inspiring, but for my low sight mother, it would allow her to cook again with Siri reading out the steps, hear the doorbell and kettle, etc. as an accessibility device, this could be quite nice. Assuming she can figure out how to use it

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u/Stunning-Gold5645 2h ago

My issue with this device is that it's artificially separated on purpose.

There is absolutely no reason an iPhone or iPad couldn't already do all of what you mentioned. No technical or engineering reason at all. They just want you to buy one more device.

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u/BedditTedditReddit 8h ago

As long as she doesn’t want to watch YouTube recipes

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u/seweso 48m ago

> it would allow her to cook again with Siri reading out the steps

Why would this work, and not an iPhone or IPad on a stand? What does this do what an iPhone or iPad doesnt?

Please explain the need for this device. I'm very curious

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u/turtlebeachbum 10h ago

I paid $300 for the coolest Apple clock ever made, to sit on my nightstand so I can watch it while I sleep

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u/atjones6 10h ago

They didn’t have Siri AI ready. I bet it’s been delayed purely because of that.

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u/Richdav1d 11h ago

This is so unintuitive and not usually how Apple does brand new-to-them product lines. There’s just nothing special or eye catching about this device at all, I think the amount of people that will have a use for it and get one will be small. Cause they clearly haven’t convinced anyone to get one who wasn’t already wanting this.

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u/bzr 11h ago

They need to add an App Store or massively overhaul HomeKit. I’m annoyed they want to release it without either. Was really looking forward to it too

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u/__theoneandonly 6h ago

How many apps will really make it to this thing if it was a whole new OS that developers would have to target? How many developers are going to test a version of their apps for this thing if the number of users is only in the few hundred thousands for years to come?

iPad apps feel wrong for this thing. It's certainly not designed for anyone to stand there and poke at it for long amounts of time. Spiritually, it feels like it should be running blown-up watchOS apps. I think streaming CarPlay apps from your phone is as good as a compromise as anything.

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u/bzr 5h ago

I want to control my devices I already have, like Sonos and Hue lights. HomeKit sucks for doing that as is. I’m definitely not replacing Sonos with Apple speakers. They could improve HomeKit so that I like using it for controlling things too. The device seems gimped

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u/__theoneandonly 5h ago

Sonos works over AirPlay and Hue works over HomeKit. Seems like both are controllable via the home view?

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u/kinglucent 11h ago

As long as this has been rumored I’ve wondered why anyone would want it. Part of the purpose of a smart home is the convenience of NOT having to get up to flip switches or touch things. 

I prefer voice commands and automation. Everything this can do I can do from my Watch and phone. 

It is really cute though. I’m enjoying the square screen aesthetic.

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

Voice commands and automations are pro level features for a smart home. Most people are on the "I have 2 lamps that I can control with my phone / a remote control" level of home automation.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 6h ago

What home products have voice commands and automation? You need either Google or Amazon stuff, or this or a normal HomePod. Of those only Google and Apple have LLM assistants.

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u/kinglucent 4h ago

HomeKit automations. Anywhere in my house, I can say, "Hey Siri, [Scene]" and my house responds accordingly. Lights sync, doors lock, music plays, etc.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 4h ago

So you are wondering why would anyone want this, and you have this.

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u/kinglucent 3h ago

I understand the use case, but it's redundant. What purpose does this serve that is not already better accomplished by the existing Apple products people are more likely to have?

Consider Jobs' introduction of the iPad, explaining why it had to be better than the phone and Mac at certain tasks. I'm not yet seeing a similar value proposition with HomeView.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 3h ago

It has a screen

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u/kinglucent 2h ago

So does the Watch that's on my wrist at all times.

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u/KokonutMonkey 10h ago

I’m pretty underwhelmed with this one, and I actually considered myself a target customer for something like this. 

All I wanted was something plop on the counter to display a shared calendar, family pics, and maybe play music or sports while I’m puttering around. It does those things, but I didn’t want it to look like it was mirrored from an Apple Watch. 

User recognition is nifty though. 

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u/Lee_HarveyTeabag 11h ago

It’s an insulting product, just like the Apple TV refresh. And by insulting, I mean it does nothing that your existing Apple device can’t already do. Oh, except for allowing multiple users but iPads can’t support that. It’s another screen to serve up ads in new spaces. It’s expensive and ugly. But it’s Apple, and they depend on mindless consumerism to drive up stock prices at this point. $300? You gotta be out of your mind to buy this, just like the new Apple TV. Apple is laughing at all of us.

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u/coolbaluk1 11h ago

I flipped when I saw the multi account. Why can’t they ship it for iPad?

Me and my partner swap custody of our iPad every 6 months out of principle.

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u/IngsocInnerParty 11h ago

They do make it for iPad in a very limited setting (Apple Classroon shared iPads). It’s one annoying thing Apple refuses to just copy from Android. Separate user profiles on iOS would be very useful.

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u/RodgerCheetoh 10h ago

They choose not to because they want you to buy multiple iPads. It’s a feature that has been requested for years that they are capable of doing without FaceID verification but have deliberately chosen not to do it.

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u/DontHateThatPizza 11h ago

Man, don’t be so grumpy. No products are for everyone. In my circle of friends of parents with kids, a handful of us have smart home stuff and this is appealing to us. Obviously does not apply to everyone and that’s okay.

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u/ssouza4 11h ago

The amount of negativity surrounding this launch has been craaaaazy. Like if it’s not for you, just don’t buy it lmao

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u/JohnApple94 11h ago

I don’t think HomeView is some crime against humanity or insult to smart home enthusiasts like some people are saying.

I think it’s an alright product. A bit pricey for what it is, but I would’ve gotten one when I was in the market for it 3 or 4 years ago. I’ve since got tired of waiting for Apple’s version of a screen hub and went with another solution though. I think it’s fine for those who want one within the Apple ecosystem.

But the one thing I think is egregious about it is that the wall-mounted version costs the same price as the base version, yet comes with less hardware (no speaker base and no power supply). Since you’re losing the base, they could have at least included a standard wall mount kit with it with the option to upgrade to one of the fancier ones.

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

What are you comparing it to that is much cheaper? Other comparable devices are in the price range.

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u/JohnApple94 10h ago

? I didn’t say other comparable devices are much cheaper?

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u/readeral 11h ago

This. I was thinking only a few weeks ago that lack of a home phone in my house (and in the houses of friends) has really shrunk my kids social options compared to when I was a kid. My 6yo and 8yo don’t need a smartphone, or their own iPad, or a discord account, but I sure could get behind a device that allows them to call their nana and grandma and (in an ideal world where everyone has one of these - never coming I realise) their primary school friends over FaceTime. But I can’t get clarity that the product will even allow this possibility either, as it seems to expect every end use will have their own personal apple device. If apple would lean into the young family market with this product and its software development to make those kinds of scenarios more possible, that would be a massive value proposition. But as it stands, I’ll wait to see if Gen2 brings any of these benefits.

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u/I-Have-Mono 11h ago

Insulting? My god, the drama.

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u/cameheretosaythis213 11h ago

I get that it’s trendy to hate it but this is melodramatic in the extreme

  • insulting?!
  • it does nothing new except this really cool feature I really want
  • it serves ads - is this a serious criticism of Apple? They are the least worst offender by some margin in the smart home major players.
  • expensive in your opinion. Priced keenly compared to the wider product line, accounting for recent memory increases etc
  • ugly is your opinion
  • laughing?!

You seem to have taken it as some kind of personal affront. Very weird behaviour for a tech product launch.

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u/MadCybertist 11h ago

And Siri AI is the biggest joke I’ve ever used. My local models are LEAPS better than what Apple can produce.

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u/wapiti_and_whiskey 11h ago

New ceo has a chance to turn this around and condemn the cookisms

give people chargers

Make it so businesses don’t have to shred macbooks by making them use regular ssds so tjey can destroy just the ssd

Lower price of regular studio display

Bring back imac 27

Poe on these smart home devices and at least make the first version $150

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u/Dizzy_Key_7400 10h ago

This device does have poe

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u/wapiti_and_whiskey 8h ago

it sure doesn't say that or show the port https://www.apple.com/apple-homeview/specs/
I mean its such a huge mistake I want you to be right, seems like one of those things that would be worth delaying the product till its in.

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u/AVonGauss 11h ago

No, I don’t need yet another charger…

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u/HardHJ 11h ago

Then give people the choice. You don’t want one then choose no. If you do then choose yes. It’s really not hard.

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u/Salt-Silver-7097 11h ago

Yeah agree it doesn’t seem like a good product. Not buying it

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u/contextcop 10h ago

dude that’s cheaper than the first iPod’s. like jesus christ reddit

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u/5pace_5loth 11h ago

What ads are you talking about?

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u/red_hare 10h ago

"Insulting?" Like dude, you can just not buy it.

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u/ineedlesssleep 10h ago

300 dollars is not expensive for this though? Comparable devices from other brands are in the same space and are less polished.

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u/LiquidDiviums 10h ago

I simply don’t see the appeal. Not to mention that the entry cost to smart home equipment is still significant, even if it’s not expensive per sè.

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u/nemofbaby2014 10h ago

I mean it looks cool but I feels more like a super niche thing we just use a old iPad with a magnetic case that’s on the fridge

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u/neeesus 9h ago

I just want a non subscription skylight type situation to see all my family’s calendars

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u/jdlyga 9h ago

It’s nice that this exists for completeness but it’s such a niche product that I can’t imagine it being very popular.

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u/extrabeefcake 8h ago

this may be good for granparents

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u/Zestyclose-Peace5050 7h ago

Have a Google home. The limited functionality of it all sucks. Just get an iPad and convert your home to smart lights and stuff use Siri, way better experience

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u/g1rth_brooks 6h ago

And this is what they ended up offering us?

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u/isit65outsideor 5h ago

I’m excited for it. I bought it wanting an Apple hub based device as my Amazon Echo is just meh.

The live activities feature and the hope that third party apps will be supported (YouTube, Flightradar, etc) really intrigues me. Im excited.

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u/userlivewire 3h ago

It's pretty well known that the product was finished two years ago and got held up by a non-functioning Siri.

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u/Hoodedwoods98 3h ago

They worked on this fucking thing for years?

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u/Obvious_Librarian_97 40m ago

I want home assistant and this hardware. I don’t want Apple Home

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u/Thermington 11h ago

I haven't seen a recent Apple product look so fucking bad in a long time. The screen bezel is huge! It's like they didn't even try to make it look nice, not even close to the Apple standards of the past.

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u/chi_guy8 11h ago

This will be one of Apple’s worst-selling products ever. There are two main types of people out there in regards to a product like this…

  1. people who are interested in it and have already purchased one over the past 10 years that does everything that Apple’s does, for much cheaper

or

  1. people who are not interested before and still not interested now.

I’m not saying that it will sell zero units, of course it will sell some, but there’s not really a big addressable market out there other than these two major groups above.

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u/DumeWolffe 11h ago

Well yeah that’s how the development cycle works.

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u/The_MacGarage 12h ago

I’m wondering if it will run home assistant via CarPlay compatibility?

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u/tilly_sc831 10h ago

If this ad from the geniuses at Apple is to be trusted, then i better drill a hole in my kitchen counter so my mom can FaceTime me at 7am. Hard no on both.!

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u/nekosama15 10h ago

The product is highly outdated for what it is.

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u/snowdn 10h ago

The customer for this is so niche.

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u/oliviagreen 8h ago

i’m not sure why my oldish iphone 16 can’t have an “always on” function when charging or a dock screen that doesn’t go dark … so that if attached to a magnetic charger on the counter i can walk by and see if there are new notifications without touching it. this seems like basically that? do i really need another device ?? i hate wearing the watch and ive been trying to get this phone dock set up to work but have been frustrated it doesn’t seem possible

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u/mountainyoo 7h ago

I would’ve gave a shit if it followed you around by rotating during a video call. Would’ve been nice to FaceTime family with our as-of-this-moment 7 month old baby. I’m not gonna just stand in one spot during a FaceTime call or rotate the damn thing manually every time.

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u/F242 11h ago

This will be known as the TF, Ternus Flop.

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u/burnertybg 11h ago

I mean if it was being developed and tested in 24 it’s not really on him

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u/trantaran 9h ago

*tim flop

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u/Few-Acadia-5593 11h ago

Who cares

Grifting on no-news rumours at best. These are people who sit together and ask what they can write about and borderline invent as long as they label it rumours. They don’t care about quality as long as people lien OP just share for likes without criticising quality

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u/Portatort 12h ago edited 11h ago

No conversational AI apps on this device is all the proof you need that Apple views agents from OpenAI and Meta as an existential threat

They’re scared

Wow, surprised to see this sub is so supportive of Apple just blocking whole classes of apps, yall be cool with them blocking other companies LLM wrappers on the App Store broadly too?

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u/Cry_Wolff 12h ago

What are you on about my guy.

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u/milesper 12h ago

Meta????? Nice try mark

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u/G8M8N8 12h ago

Duh?

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u/littlebiped 12h ago

Whose after conversational AI… I have to use ChatGPT at work and I wish that fucker would get to the point

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u/13249999999 12h ago

Well they have to be kinda scared. If you give 3rd party LLMs too much access to hardware Netanyahu will be able to spy on your family.

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u/ReasonablePractice83 8h ago

This just does not look good to me. The text being cutoff looks bad, it's not as legible as it could be. Apple software design has gotten so messy especially with the new glassy stuff. Maybe it's just me..

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u/Low_Administration22 7h ago

This thing is like a 2010 idea. Laughable

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u/CucumberError 6h ago

Can it rotate itself like the Echo Show 10?

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u/latomeri 2h ago

I'm honestly not sure what more people expected from this product. This was never going to be (and in my opinion shouldn't be) an iPad on a stand.