r/WEPES • • Dec 13 '23

Megathread THE PES FRANCHISE - How to play the games, how to patch them and the future of football gaming

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UPDATED: 09 SEPTEMBER 2025

GENERAL EXPLANATIONS

  • Which is the best PES game? Objectively, PES 2021. Then goes PES 2017 with its very good AI CPU and fast paced style and then PES 2013 with the best Master League experience of all the franchise. Being subjective, it's all up to yours. Every one has it's own preferences, but I think they are the best 3 PES after PS2-era.
  • No, you can't get PES 2021 in digital stores anymore. KONAMI deleted any official and legal way to get it, so the game is truly expensive now. Console users only can buy it used by more than 30€ (if you're lucky), and PC players need to get Football Life for that, the only PES 2021 that works properly. CPY version is a chore to install and a crashfest, so it's not recommended at all to download it.
  • Older "golden" PS2 PES games aren't up there because, being honest and taking out the nostalgia glasses, they were surpassed long ago. Still fun and pretty good games to play, but they are outdated in every aspect: graphical and in gameplay. No PlayerID, no physical contacts, bad goalkeepers, bad referees... But we will talk about them later.
  • Yes, PES 2021 is showing it's age. PES 2021 is just PES 2020, which was made in 2019. It's a 6+ year game by now. It is reaching its full modding capacity. We can't transform or redo the game, so no new animations or celebrations will be done, no new game modes, no more slots for more leagues. The community can create some beautiful things like faces, boots, scoreboards, adboards, kits, lineups, gloves, tattoos, stadiums and that, and we thank them all for keeping the PES spirit alive. But they can't improve the game more than it is. The core game of PES is LIMITED and cannot be enhanced further than that.
  • Yes, PES 2021 is kinda limited on the offline modes if you have played it for more than 100 hours. Master League hasn't much depth, BAL gets boring and you will feel the game is stale. In case you are so bored of PES 2021, I suggest to switch to FUMA (Full Manual) to relearn the entire game and experience the true freedom on the pitch. It will be hard at first, but very rewarding.
  • Yes, there is scripting when you play Master League. You already know what that means: goals in the last minute, CPU becoming a monster out of nowhere, godlike goalkeepers, etc. Highly suggest to try the gameplay mods out there in the PES 2021 Gameplay mods thread.
  • Yes, you can play online every PES if you want, but only on PC. On some of them there are dedicated servers runned by the community (PES 4-5-6) but on later PES the servers are officially closed. But that doesn't mean that you cannot play online. Search for Parsec and learn what it does. It works for other games that doesn't have proper online now, or just online LAN functions. I have hosted some tournaments with people on different patches and it went perfectly and very realistic, because I used gameplay patches and content patches to make the best experience.
  • If you want the best gameplay and support: PES 2021
  • If you want the best Master League experience: PES 2013
  • If you want the best PS2 PES game: Winning Eleven 9 Liveware Evolution.

ABOUT OLDER PES AND GETTING THEM PATCHED

  • Older PES are still being updated, but not as deep and complete as PES 2021. Some of them are totally left out, but the most popular ones (WE2002, PES5/6, PES 2013 and 2017) still receive some community patches.
  • The support outside the classic PS2 PES, PES 2017 and PES 2021 is non-existant or almost none.
  • In case you're looking for past season patches, I suggest you to visit PesNewUpdate. You will find there patches for PES 2010-2019 for each year season, like the old PESEdit and such.
  • If you want to play old Winning Eleven/PES 3 to 6 games with special custom patches like specific competitions, eras/decades or seasons I suggest you to search in this thread: Patch - PES 6 Global Patches Full Installers by Sany | Evo-Web (evoweb.uk) . It has easy installers to play whatever game you want with beautiful patches like historical World Cups, specific Champions League or Libertadores, less know leagues and such. There's some beautiful mods of a lot of eras you will enjoy.
  • For PES 2013, there is some project called ProFootball, which intends to bring PES 2013 to the actual season.
  • For PES 2017, there are some updated patch for current 25/26 season like t99 or YosfX patch. More details here: PES 2017 I YosfX Patch - FC 2025 Edition V1.0 - (Download & Install)

ABOUT PES 2021 AND HOW TO GET IT UPDATED

Please read the MegaThread: [PES 2021] THE OFFICIAL PATCHES/OPTION FILES THREAD for PES 2021 and FOOTBALL LIFE

ABOUT FOOTBALL LIFE (PC/PORTABLE CONSOLES ONLY)

  • Football Life is the alternative to get a somewhat "legal" copy of PES 2021 working on PC. It's already pre-modded. It's abandonware, don't worry, you aren't doing anything bad.
  • Dido is active and alive (he is the creator of Football Life and he's from Palestine).
  • Football Life 26 1.4 Update is the current version right now.
  • The content of Football Life is just basic and made mostly by one person (not counting extra addons). That means it lacks some kits, balls, proper scoreboards and such. Also the facepacks are a little bit outdated, so you will have to download updated faces and add them manually via Sider.
  • No, Football Life is not compatible with other patches that use other databases, like VirtuaRED or Dream Patch. Only some content is compatible, generally Sider content. The database is locked so you can't include or remove any of the teams. Only Smoke Patch team creators can change them.
  • Yes, Football Life works perfectly on a Steam Deck. There is a Lutris script to install it. Here's the link: https://github.com/eskay993/gamefiles/tree/main/sp-football-life-2026
  • Football Life is your best option if you don't want to download 100GB patches , even if you have a legit copy of PES 2021. It's completely standalone and doesn't require any PES 2021 file to run. Base game only takes up to 30GB without faces or stadiums installed, so you can play the game by just having that.
  • As it is PES 2021 really, if you learn how Sider works, you can add a lot of mods without breaking anything. That means you can put new faces, scoreboards, balls, stadiums and such. See tutorials about how it works, it's pretty simple and you have to learn only where to put things and what to write in Sider.ini.
  • You can revert the gameplay in case you don't like it to the FL23, FL24 or default PES 2021. There's a Switcher in game's folder for that. In case you want to apply some gameplay mods, you only can install those that use the DT18 file or via Sider.
  • There are some dedicated patches like UML, which enhances overall Master League behaviour with multiple optimizations. Check r/SPFootballLife for more info.

ABOUT EFOOTBALL AND THE FUTURE OF FOOTBALL GAMES

  • eFootball 26 still lacks a lot of content and its like three steps behind from PES 2021, but it has better gameplay after all. After the 30th anniversary event, which was atrocious, we can't expect anything offline for this game in the mid-term.
  • The modding community is doing some small patches for eFootball. Mostly it includes unlocking all the clubs, making kits and getting slighter better graphics. Don't expect anything more ambitious in the short term.
  • EA FC is a decent game IF MODDED PROPERLY. There are a bunch of mods out there, specially Anth's Gameplay Mod, DanielZ Realism Mode, FIFER, KIARIKA and RODE ones.
  • About UFL: its an online focused game that slowly improves its core game, but its very far from what you would expect on a top tier football game.
  • Don't get hyped about anything in the future about any football game. We know it's sad that the most followed sport in the world doesn't have a proper videogame that makes justice for it. Hard times for us, football gaming lovers.

r/WEPES • • 5h ago

Outsmarted by CPU

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r/WEPES • • 15h ago

PES 2021 Mods Are Going ABSOLUTELY CRAZY

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Crazy times to be alive as football gamer. Modders have been going completely nuclear with developments that, not that long time ago, seemed impossible.

Here is a list of the biggest mods, tools and projects on the scene.

Which one you are the most excited about?


r/WEPES • • 17h ago

Modding Converted another yellow card cutscenes from UFL to PES 2021

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This one was a lot of work, gave me a headache, but it looks good now!


r/WEPES • • 9h ago

PES 6 [PES 6] Looking for Someone Who Makes Custom Patches

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Hi everyone!

I'd like to know if anyone here takes commissions to create custom patches for PES 6.

I have a few ideas in mind for a patch that I'd really like to see made. I could try to make it myself, but unfortunately, I don't have much time to work on it at the moment, so I'd rather find someone who already has experience creating PES 6 patches.

If you're interested in taking on this project, or if you know someone who does, please feel free to contact me so we can discuss the details and agree on a fair price.

Thanks in advance for your time and help!

Best regards!


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Life imititates art

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Basically a fake shot in Pes 2020/2021/efootball with rabona skill card


r/WEPES • • 17h ago

Video I'm a genius

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r/WEPES • • 11h ago

Help PES 2008 on Proton freezes on start screen

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Hi all!

Recently I'm having so much fun remembering past PES titles, either PS2 or PC versions, but I'm playing them on Linux (Bazzite OS specifically), and installed these games using Proton (the latest version of GE-Proton for example).

​I have the following issue with PES 2008 PC version, that I don't think happens with other PES games from its era (2009 to 2013). The game installs and runs fine, but the game just freezes after hitting "Press Start button". I think it's something related to loading/saving the settings file. I don't know how to proceed to test possible solutions.

Did somebody else have this issue?


r/WEPES • • 11h ago

Modding Valutazione dinamica dell'editor di PES #pes2021

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r/WEPES • • 14h ago

As Real as it gets ig

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r/WEPES • • 12h ago

PES 6 Jogar online com internet do telemóvel

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Bom dia povo,

Pormenor importante, eu como passo pouco tempo em casa não tenho internet tipo router, só no telemóvel e partilho a internet do telemóvel com o computador, que funciona bem para tudo.

Eu estou a tentar jogar o pes6 online, já está instalado e com os patchs e consigo jogar offline mas quando vou tentar aceder diz que dá erro na porta 5739, no entanto eu já criei as portas udp e tcp para entradas e saídas, já mudei mas definições do jogo de porta 5739 para 5730, coloquei o ficheiro host do site PES6.es e ainda assim não funciona.

Alguém teve um problema semelhante?

Não pretendo colocar internet em casa. Eu trabalho em restauração, e como tenho computador portátil é mais fácil nos dias tranquilos levar o PC para lá e jogar.

Problema seria depois a noite quando chegasse em casa e nos dias de folga.

Podem me ajudar por favor? Desde já agradeço.


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Modding My cloth physics mod for PES 2021 is almost ready 👀

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r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2021 Dinamic Real Time #FootballLife #pes2021 is now released! Dynamic real...

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r/WEPES • • 17h ago

Pes AI Tactics Suck.

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I’ve heard a lot of people praising PES 2017 for its intelligent ai and after playing a few season of Become A Legend I have found frustrating flaws I don’t see people talk about. To make this clear I’m speaking about BAL only since you can’t control the tactics of your own team and rely on the ai. 

In every game that happens to be a draw, 0-0 especially since I play on superstar difficulty, the game specifically changes tactics at the exactly the 65th minute of both teams to a park the bus set up when you are playing in a league game. This happens every time and It’s so frustrating because you could be the better side and have 10 shots on target but just not scoring and the game forces you to sit back and make it a stalemate. However I don’t think this happens in rival games since it didn’t happen to me when I was playing the North London Derby.

The worst about the 65th minute tactic change is when it happens in knockout games. No matter how good you are playing the ai will change both teams to all out attack. You can even be up 3-0 on aggregate but because the current game is 0-0 the ai acts like both teams have the same desperation to go through. Imagine yeah, I was in a champions league final. CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL. They had both teams CB playing up front and it was such a mess cos they just boot the ball up as soon as they get it.

It’s genuinely so frustrating because we all love PES for its realism and immersiveness then it breaks it like that. It’s not like you can’t score but it just makes the game feel so stupid. I think this issue is across a lot of the pes games though or at least the most recent ones. 

BAL Players what do you guys think about this?


r/WEPES • • 22h ago

Bruno fernandes penalty style

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We can now convert goal celebrations from eFootball to PES 21. Is it possible to convert Bruno's penalty-taking style to PES 21?


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

I just saved a corrupted master league save from pes 2009

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So after two seasons, my master league save got corrupted, I was desperate because of the time invested in it.

turns out the issue is caused by a saved image that is larger than what the game allows and it breaks the save.

The solution needs a second save game and some ai to extract the good parts of the older working save game and overwrite the corrupted one.

Wanted to share in case somebody finds it valuable.


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Wtf hahaha

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r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2013 ?

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I’ve never actually played this game before and was wondering what was it about the gameplay and ML that made it so loved by people ?

Also was the edit mode in this as deep as in the PS2 era PES games ?


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2019 A Juventus counter-attack ends in a goal.

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Just started playing PES 2019, what a great game, the animations are so fluid and not sluggish like pes 2021, I installed smoke patch on it and I am having a blast playing, this game also features the OG broadcast cam which was sadly removed on PES 2021.


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Pes 2013 online trophies

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My id : irocky-thepro
Playing a match and winning a match


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

REAL COACH V2 2026/27 | REAL MANAGERS ON THE PITCH! ➠ PES 2021 & FOOTBALL LIFE 26 (In game Screenshot) Credits Below

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r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Video Pes 2001/02 Highlights

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Pes 01/02 patch on pes 21. this is on pc

bit of man utd players, real madrid, drogba. also made my own team Soho London and they are stacked with all the legends of this era

can show my created team kits and things if you want to see

playing on Top player, still some odd reactions from keepers and defense but i like that skill level

thanks just for fun. picked a song off the fifa 2002 soundtrack for this era


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2012 is shit for 2 reasons

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Recently bought a Xbox 360 to play the old PES games.

I played PES 2012 and I liked the fact it was hard. It had that PES feel about tactical spirit and every player has a different touch to your team.

  1. But shit fuck the goalkeeping in this game, every goal I suffer is from a stupid ass bitch lame ass shit mistake front my GK. My GK scored more own goals than Pelé scored goals in his career.
    I changed GK 3 times but doesn’t matter because when the game decides it’s time you take a goal in your ass, guess what ? You can’t do shit about it.

I don’t mind losing but shit bro like I said you will only suffer stupid ass goals from you dumb ass goalkeeper. I played 3 consecutive Champions League mode and got eliminated each time by some random GK mistakes.

  1. Your players are never in good position, they will never come to help the player you control so you will always be alone and with no player to pass the ball.
    Every time I do a counter attack, the other teammates stay behind or just in a stupid position. Playing this game is like watching what would happen if you would put some cockroach brain inside a human being and force it to play football.

r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Help PES 2013 remastered?

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With the latest advancements in AI where you see older games are getting reverse engineered and having their code being modified to add new features and animations, is it possible to do the same thing to games like Pes 2013 or Pes 6?


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Modding PES 2016 backport to PES 2015

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Backported PES 2016's faces and some kits to PES 15