Everyone jokes that Vader could have just looked through the phone book for a Skywalker but what if the name Luke Skywalker is just a really common name on Tatooine like John Smith is in our world

Think about it. Skywalker originally comes from Shmi Skywalker who was just a random slave and the name Luke is just what some rural moisture farmers named their child.

There is nothing to my knowledge in canon or legends that suggests the name "Luke" or "Skywalker" is in any way uncommon

edit: padme named him luke

Assume the weaker claim, not the meme. Not “they knew about the wedding.” Assume Obi-Wan reported a bond, Yoda had already felt the fear, and the Council decided a hearing could wait until the Separatists were finished.

That decision has a defense. He is winning battles they are losing. It also has a cost that only shows up later: the attachment Palpatine is using is the one the Order declined to name.

I am not asking whether the Jedi failed in general. I am asking whether this specific non decision is defensible as wartime triage. If you think it is, what hearing were they supposed to hold without losing the general? If you think it is not, what canon moment is the last clean chance to have had it?

Afterwards, Dooku takes Anakin's severed arm and glues it to his own stump.

Also, instead of collecting lightsabers, General Grievous chopped off the arms of his opponents and used those instead of his cybernetic limbs

I think this would be very cool and awesome if it happened, I bet they could do this and also make Rey Palapatine Skywalker glue all of Pong Krell's arms to her chest

This is the story about verified leaks in 1998 that confirm a planned story arc for Jar Jar Binks in Episode 2-3 where he rivals Palpatine in the senate and where his character takes a dark turn, all scrapped after Episode 1.

Author: u/Rikard_. October 12, 2026, 100% AI-free text.

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There has been an awakening

It's 1993 and a decade-long wait for Star Wars fans seemed to near its end! George Lucas just announced he would write and produce the "prequel trilogy”. These were the long anticipated installments in the Skywalker saga that would show how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, give fans more Boba Fett action and maybe even show Han Solo's backstory.

In September of 1998, Lucas finally announced the first chapter called “The Phantom Menace” coming to theaters in May 1999.

Then, in late November… a great disturbance in the force. Among the thousands of fan theories scattered across early web forums, mixed with ever crazier “leaks” from someone’s uncle at Lucasfilm, one poster claimed to have insider info. Impossible to verify at the time, the leaker (dubbed Mr Moto) would agree to answer the validity of “facts” sent over by Aintitcool website owner Harry Knowles, such as “Naboo will appear in all 3 movies”. In his answers, Mr Moto would make elaborate and precise claims about the plot spanning across the entire prequel trilogy, from the events of the just announced Episode 1 to events at the very end of the trilogy.

And it was true. All of it.

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Mr Moto’s leaks

The first blog post by Harry Knowles about Mr Moto on November 30, 1998: A New Spy, Mr Moto, Decides To Speak About EPISODES 2 & 3, Possible Spoilers are contained.

The second blog post by Harry Knowles about Mr Moto on December 3, 1998: Mr Moto Returns with a SPOILER filled report on EPISODE 2 & 3

Disclaimers

While I will demonstrate the credibility of leakers like Mr Moto and others, it’s worth mentioning that Aintitcool website owner Harry Knowles alone, who made the blog posts, was regarded as a respectable and credible distributor of inside information at the time. Knowles was even invited to a private screening of Episode 2 by a leaker behind Lucasfilm’s back, which also made the news. Reading Knowles’s “spy reports”, he seems to have fact-checked every leaker with inside information he already had, and would only pass on their information if they passed his test.

When reading these claims, also keep in mind that things we take for granted as part of the prequel story today had no foundation in 1998. Claims like Palpatine controlling his own army in Episode 2 were about as valid a prediction as a young Han Solo playing a part in the story, or Kenobi being from a jungle planet called “Saflari”. Mr Moto’s claims are therefore bold and not someone’s guesswork.

Now, onto my summary of every claim Mr Moto makes, ending with The Mysterious Senator!

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Claims from the first Mr Moto post

Rumored Dawson’s Creek actor will not play adult Anakin Skywalker in Episode 2

True ✅

Naboo will transform

“Starting in Episode 2, the feel of Naboo will never ever be the same. There are some events, impactful events, that occur between the end of Episode 1 and the beginning of Episode 2 that will have an impact on all of this.”

True ✅ The Gungan/Naboo unification freed them from the Trade blockade and resulted in peace on the planet. In terms of how the planet is portrayed in the film, it goes from war-torn cities to idyllic paradise. This is echoed by Concept design supervisor Doug Chiang in this interview.

Episode 2 is like 5, huge climax at the end, many secondary stories, one secondary story involving a character not seen in Episode 1 but important to the overall saga

True ✅ Episode 2 ends with the Separatists meeting, the arena battle, clone wars and the wedding. Just like Episode 5, Episode 2 also ends with a hero/villain duel where everyone survives and are separated.

"A secondary story involving a character not seen in Episode 1 but important to the overall saga" could refer to different things at this point in time. Interviews and dated concept art imply that a “new sith” was intended for Episode 2 since before Episode 1 premiered. It could also refer to Boba Fett, seeing as he originally had a bigger prequel role and does feature again later in the saga.

Episode 2 and 3 will have Anakin as the “main man”. Obi-Wan and Yoda will still be there.

True ✅

Knowles asks Mr Moto if Boba Fett will have a big role in Episode 2. Mr Moto replies that Fett will be there but in a capacity that will surprise many fans.

True ✅ Boba Fett was in the movie but only as a young child and without action sequences, bar one.

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Claims from the second Mr Moto post

Palpatine will hold a title called “Supreme Chancellor” by the end of Episode 1

True ✅

Palpatine will not be a public villain, but “a power player, a wizard behind the curtains that pulls the strings”

True ✅

Palpatine will "move into high gear beginning in the second chapter"

True ✅ Palpatine is now the Supreme Chancellor and activates his clone army – his biggest power move yet.

Palpatine will be a man of many hats. Allegedly with 'Spice mines' and as a 'Slave trader'

True ✅ While not specifically trading spice or slaves in the film, on screen he does constantly shift between his senator persona on Coruscant and his sith lord persona with the Trade Federation and Maul.

We will learn in Episode 1 that owning slaves has been outlawed in all the 'civilized' areas of the galaxy

True ✅ and very specific. When Padmé says "I can't believe there's still slavery in the galaxy. The Republic's anti-slavery laws...", Shmi interrupts with "The Republic doesn't exist out here".

Palpatine will become a main player with the assistance of his personal army. The army consists of Mandalorian warriors.

True ✅ Palpatine is granted emergency powers and can control his new clone army. The army does not consist of Mandalorians, but the mixup is understandable as there is a thematic connection between Mandalorians and the helmet wearing soldiers that are clones of Mandalorian branded Jango Fett.

Palpatine will be a big part in bringing an end to quite a large conflict that occurs in Episode 2

True ✅ He sends his personal clone army to aid the jedi on Geonosis.

It is Palatine’s popularity and stardom that swoons Anakin to his side.

Not quite ❌

“The next step for Palpatine is to acquire a real Military Victory, something to beat his chest about. So, he hires his own army to...  I won't tell you everything, Mr Knowles.”

... to kill all the jedi. True ✅ This is Order 66 at the end of Episode 3. Wow! In 1998, Mr Moto didn’t finish his sentence to save us the big surprise for 2005. For all of his leaks, it seems like Mr Moto respects Lucas and wants to keep any big surprises secret…

The total tally so far is:

✅ 13 truths

❌ 1 falsehood

To me, Mr Moto seems like a very credible leaker on the inside with actual information about the entire trilogy. What remains to go through of Mr Moto’s leak is the most interesting part.

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The Mysterious Senator

The second blog post about Mr Moto continues with an elaborate section about a mysterious senator:

As I had mentioned, [Palpatine] was at the top of his game, and one of the few to control the Senate. Another Senator, who I must protect at this time, will be nearly as popular as Palpatine. He understands without doubts the way of thing in the Senate, and he is also a great military leader. This senator will have a perfect military record of victories, and the exclamation point will be another of the important conflicts in the prequels. The way of things in the Old Republic were very simplistic, to achieve virtue, one must demonstrate their competence on the field of blood, the battlefield. This senator was like El Cid or Caesar in that regard. His political ascension was built upon the shoulders of his victories as a field commander."

"In and around the middle of this first trilogy, Coruscant became a hive of civil unrest and shady political deals. From the fields of battle came good news, and the cityfolks hung upon every word. Our mysterious Senator was charismatic and quite an orator, his army was a thing of beauty, and he was an advocate of the HUMAN destiny, it was to be his immortal message. For HUMANS were the highest form... for him. He led his army across the galaxy against the wishes of the senate. It will be his attempt, or so it will be alleged, that it will be a move to seize absolute power. This will, Harry, not be allowed. It can not, because if it is then the very fabric of the Old Republic democracy will be torn asunder. That is why the senate will act as it does. This senator was given the power to protect and uphold all the principles and values of the Old Republic democracy. This senator ventures down the dark path. And this man will have embraced the dark side to build his NEW ORDER on the ashes of the Old Republic and the mangled bones of the illustrious Jedi."

Summary of characteristics:

1. Male politician.
2. Political ascension came after victories as a field commander.
3. Military record, with a high point being an important conflict of the prequels.
4. Great public speaker.
5. Advocates for the HUMAN destiny.
6. His use of his army and his political agenda is, or will be framed as, an attempt to seize absolute power.
7. Will be trusted to uphold democracy.
8. Embraces the dark side

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Jar Jar's original story arc

The Mysterious Senator that Mr Moto is talking about is most likely Representative Binks (in 1998, any character to be involved in the senate would have been described as a senator).

Lucas rewrote much of the prequels (see COMMENT 1) after the Jar Jar backlash from Episode 1. Jar Jar and Gungans were originally supposed to have a bigger role in Episode 2 and 3, and Mr Moro gives us a plausible answer as to what that story would have looked like. Jar Jar fits about every characteristic of "The mysterious senator".

Summary of characteristics but applied to Jar Jar:

1. Representative Binks
2. Respected Gungan general
3. Droid invasion of Naboo
4. In early drafts for Episode 2, Jar Jar had learned to speak normally. In the film, Jar Jar gives a successful senate address.
5. Anti-droid/clones agenda
6. Gungan army and work for the Loyalist Committee
7. Trusted in Padmé’s absence
8. End of Episode 2 reveal and plot twist

Jar Jar becomes a general of the Gungan army, scores a big win at the droid invasion of Naboo, becomes a senate representative, spoke normal dialect in an early draft going into Episode 2 and gives a successful speech in the canon timeline, and he is trusted by Padmé to uphold their values in the senate. This setup, paired with the fact that Jar Jar and Gungans were rewritten to feature much less, has everything pointing to this mysterious senator being Jar Jar Binks.

The fact that Mr Moto wanted to bring this topic up while still keeping the senator’s identity top secret, like he kept secret the end-goal of Palpatine’s personal army, indicates that the identity would be a meaningful reveal for the audience or at least unexpected at the start of the trilogy. Jar Jar being revealed as a dark side user would be a major plot twist for the prequel trilogy, something it lacks today.

The Loyalist Committee

The story arc described by Mr Moto also very much aligns with the hidden prequel politics and Jar Jar's reduced role in Episode 2 and 3. Jar Jar is part of the Loyalist Committee and is shown together with its anti-Palpatine successor movement "The Delegation of 2000" in deleted scenes. In the deleted scenes, Palpatine talks to Anakin and tries to frame the delegation and its leader as attempting a deceitful power grab, just like what Mr Moto describes.

In the original story, Jar Jar would have possibly hijacked the Loyalist Committee during Padmé's absence in Episode 2 and lead the group forward going into Episode 3. This way, he would set himself up as a rival to Palpatine by first giving him emergency powers (potentially) and then campaigning to replace him. In his rewrites, it seems like Lucas tried to just shift Jar Jar to the background of the Episode 3 delegation subplot and replace him with Padmé, but in the end, almost the whole subplot was cut from the films. It likely lost its purpose when not used as a central plot device with Jar Jar at the helm, and when Anakin could no longer realistically be turned against its leader (Padmé).

HUMAN-first agenda

One part that doesn’t align with Jar Jar is the HUMAN-first agenda. A non-literal reading is that Moto may actually mean LIVING BEINGS as opposed to droids.

But what sticks out here is that Moto suddenly writes HUMAN in all caps for no apparent reason, twice. If the senator was human and Moto meant "humans" literally, there would be nothing remarkable about him being human-first to warrant the all caps, especially not twice.

The other instances where Mr Moto uses all caps is to substitute italics (huge, the man and will), for names, and for irony ("great family"). “Human” is not a title, and italics for emphasis does not make sense in this context, at least not when repeated. The unwarranted repetition leaves me to believe that HUMAN (wink-wink) is another case of irony and that Moto doesn’t mean human at all. Instead, it looks like an inflated, generic substitute for a word that (after watching Episode 1) would reveal the identity he is trying to withhold. For Jar Jar, this could relate to "anti-droid" or "anti-clones".

Could it be someone else?

Could the mysterious senator not point to Jar Jar and instead another brand new character that was written out? Technically yes, but practically no, as explained in COMMENT 5. Dooku comes to mind as the Episode 2 villain, but he is not a contender due to behind-the-scenes reasons explained in COMMENT 6.

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Supporting evidence

1. Leaker Henry Pym

Another credible leaker shared by Harry Knowles was dubbed Henry Pym. The blog post came 1.5 months after the premiere of Episode 1 and can be read here: Henry Pym on STAR WARS EPISODE 2 and Coppola's MEGALOPOLIS

Knowles writes that Pym also contacted him with information before Episode 1, but that he waited to confirm if his leaks were true before sharing anything on the blog. Once Knowles had seen Episode 1, he judged Pym to be legit. Once again, Knowles shows he takes measures to confirm the validity of leakers before spreading their word.

Although Knowles judged Pym to be legit by interrogation, it’s also good to also examine his validity with the benefit of hindsight. Like with Mr Moto, I have cross-checked every claim he makes, which can be read in COMMENT 2. Out of Pym’s 7 claims about Episode 2 and 3 not concerning Jar Jar, my fact check shows:

✅ 6 truths 

🫳 1 uncertainty

❌ 0 falsehoods

Concerning Jar Jar in Episode 2, Pym states:

Jar Jar you say, well, it appears that you will have to learn to live with him. He will be involved, in some ways anyway. I for sure that in 1997, Jar Jar was supposed to appear in all three prequels and this was the master-plan. Nothing was about to change all this. As for today, it's still the plan.

This statement indicates that Jar Jar had a central role in the prequels, and his involvement related to, or was, the “master-plan”. “Nothing was about to change all this” indicates that this is not about a few scenes, but a storyline important to Lucas back in 1997. The only meaningful scene of Jar Jar that we got in Episode 2 and 3 was his senate address to give Palpatine emergency powers. Part of the original story or not, Pym’s statement points to a role larger than that one scene.

Here, 4 to 6 weeks into the audience feedback on Episode 1, Pym hints that changes to the character could possibly occur when he writes “As for today, it’s still the plan”.

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2. Ahmed Best

• Jar Jar actor Ahmed Best said this in a 2014 Reddit AMA:

Redditor: As far as you know, did George Lucas ever consider making any changes to Jar-Jar Binks in light of the general negative reaction towards him? 

Best: Not to the character, but to the story arc there were huge changes. 

Redditor: That's really interesting, could you elaborate on that by any chance?

Best: I think George wanted to give the fans what they wanted. That meant more lightsabers and less Gungans

• In a 2016 interview with Mark Stangroom for The Geeknd, Best said the following in response to the recently viral Darth Jar Jar theory:

“Could Jar Jar have evolved into that? I think the answer is yes. Because of the backlash, and rightfully so, Lucasfilm backed off of Jar Jar a lot.”

Best confirms that, in light of the backlash against Jar Jar, Lucasfilm:

• backed off of Jar Jar a lot
• made huge story changes

If it wasn't a given already, Mr Moto's description of the mysterious senator solidifies that the two are connected.

Not to the character, but to the story arc there were huge changes.

At the same time, Best claims that Lucas didn’t make any changes to Jar Jar’s character. How does that make sense with his other comments?

Without further comments from Best, we will never know exactly what he knew about Jar Jar’s character (as in future personality, agendas or other traits) before Lucas’s rewrites. Had Lucas told him everything in detail about all 3 movies, or only hinted at a general direction beyond Episode 1? Maybe Best knew every detail of the planned senator arc, including Jar Jar allegedly embracing the dark side. Or maybe he only knew Jar Jar and Gungans would have important roles in politics and war, but did not know about any dark side to Jar Jar himself.

If the latter is true (that Best didn’t know about any evil turn), his statement on the Reddit AMA makes sense. After all, Jar Jar ended up staying a well-meaning senator, so the character didn’t change from how Best would have known him in Episode 1.

Could he have evolved into that? I think the answer is yes.

If Lucas had in fact informed Best of Jar Jar’s story in detail from beginning to end without anything about him turning evil, I don’t see Best saying he thinks Jar Jar could have turned evil. And if Lucas had informed Best of a story arc that did involve him turning evil, I don’t see him saying that Lucas didn’t change the character.

Why wouldn’t Best know about this crucial plot twist? Well, it’s not beyond Lucas to hide certain plot twists from production and crew to avoid leaks. When it comes to “I am your father”, Lucas famously only told the actors about the line on the day of shooting and up until then had faked the script to say something else.

I think George wanted to give the fans what they wanted. That meant more lightsabers and less Gungans.

This statement indicates that the original story would have also involved more Gungans in general that were written out in favor of more flashy action. Going by Mr Moro’s leak, this probably relates to the Gungan army under Jar Jar’s command.

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3. Leaker CPO

CPO is the name of another credible leaker shared by Harry Knowles. The blog post came 4 months before the premiere of Episode 1 and can be read here: Info on the release of 2nd STAR WARS EPISODE 1 Trailer, plus rumors on Episode 2!

Like with Mr Moto and Pym, I have cross-checked every claim CPO makes, which can be read in COMMENT 3. Out of CPO’s 7 claims about Episode 2 and 3 not concerning Jar Jar, my fact check shows:

✅ 6 truths 

❌ 1 falsehoods

Concerning Jar Jar, CPO states:

Jar Jar is in Episode 2-3 at this point. Jar Jar is expected to be much more important (like Chewie in Episodes 5-6)

The comparison to Chewie seems disproportionate to what is described in Mr Moto’s leak. Jar Jar was already a more prominent character in Episode 1 than Chewie was in any of his movies. Instead, the comparison between Jar Jar’s and Chewie’s story arcs is probably about character progression in general over the course of the trilogy. Chewie did go from a passive character in Episode 4 (punching bag for comic relief) to a somewhat more active character in Episode 5 and especially 6 (rescuing C3PO, showing emotions at Han’s capture, fighting on Endor). Similarly, the “mysterious senator” subplot would make Jar Jar more important than in Episode 1.

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4. Anonymous Source 7/9/98

The last “insider leak” I will present is featured on this archived theforce.net page that summarizes leaked character information on Jar Jar that had appeared on TheForce or elsewhere prior to Episode 1. While I view the validity of the source as moderate to strong, it is not nearly as verifiable as Mr Moto or Pym’s reports. I evaluate Anonymous Source 7/9/98 further in COMMENT 4.

Anonymous Source 7/9/98 states:

though [Jar Jar] does bumble around and screws up, he does have at least one very dramatic scene that has an big impact on Anakin and your perceptions of events in the original trilogy. Jar Jar's comedy will make the scene hit home a lot more when you see it. 

We never see a scene like this, but a reveal of Jar Jar’s evil identity or his true intentions would certainly be dramatic. If this happened, it would likely be written to affect Anakin in some way, like the big plot twist in Episode 5 affected Luke.

The last sentence of the statement connects the dramatic moment with Jar Jar’s comedy. If Jar Jar is 0% evil, his previous comedy could frame him as a very innocent character in a tragic moment. If Jar Jar is evil as per Mr Moto’s description and revealed as such, his previous comedy would be exposed as manipulation and make the reveal scene “hit home a lot more”.

In his interview with The Geeknd, Ahmed Best said:

Because of the backlash, Lucasfilm backed off of Jar Jar a lot. BUT a lot of the influence that I put into the character mirrored a lot of what was already in the Star Wars universe

Here, Best seems to want to defend or contextualize the character (disliked for his comedy) with a deeper meaning. Anonymous Source 7/9/98 also suggests that Jar Jar’s comedy will carry some sort of meaning into this alleged dramatic scene.

What elements in the original trilogy that influenced Jar Jar in Episode 1 is anyone’s guess. Since he is a comedic character, it’s possible that he was influenced by C3PO or Yoda’s fake persona before he was revealed as a jedi.

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5. Magnifico

In the iconic sci-fi series Foundation (1940-50), the protagonists meets a character called Magnifico. Magnifico pretends to be a terrified court jester on the run from danger. He is tall and gangly and speaks in a strange way. He escapes with the heroes on their starship, but from here on out he starts using psychic manipulation on people around him to forward his agenda. Ultimately, he rises through the ranks in politics and takes over the galaxy.

The subplot that Mr Moto describes of a high-profile senator, if applied to the Jar Jar we know in Episode 1, perfectly mirrors the story and character of Magnifico.

But how is Foundation relevant to Lucas and the prequels?

Lucas actually seems to have borrowed a number of things straight from Foundation when writing the prequels, given the strong resemblance on certain elements (an alternative take is that the influences came from other works already copying Foundation). I will explain the similarities between the prequels and Foundation by borrowing some passages from this TheForce.net blog post aiming to do the same.

The basic plot of Foundation is that in the distant future, mankind has spread all over the universe. This future civilization is on the brink of collapse due to political infighting and civil war.

large space battleship from the Imperial Navy called an Imperial Cruiser. There's also a Chancellor of the Empire and later on a Trader's Guild.

the Foundation starts a group of priests that are believed to have mystical powers, wear simple robes, and keep peace and order in the universe.

This is how Star Wars begins if you start at Episode 1. Switch Empire for Republic, and Foundation starts to sound a lot like the backbone of the prequels’ world-building. The original Star Wars trilogy that follows is a more independent and personal story that follows this setup.

Trantor, the capitol planet and political center of the universe in Foundation, is a planet with the entire surface covered by one big city.

Exactly like Coruscant, explicitly explained in Episode 1.

Quote from the book: "The Jump through hyperspace remained the only practical method of traveling between the stars. Travel through ordinary space would have meant years of travel between even the nearest of inhabited systems."

Same as in Star Wars.

Based on all of the above, it is my conviction that Lucas wanted to incorporate a Magnifico-type character into his saga to play a big part in the downfall of the Republic, and that character was Jar Jar Binks.

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6. Jar Jar’s force abilities

One crucial part of Magnifico’s story (5. Magnifico) that is not mentioned for Mr Moto’s mysterious senator is the psychic manipulation, which would imply force abilities. There are other sources to support the notion of Jar Jar possessing the force, however.

“Darth Jar Jar” theories frequently involve alleged mind control from Jar Jar in Episode 1. This is because he, beyond a reasonable doubt, is intentionally animated to mouth anti-jedi lines in sync with other characters. Jar Jar is also seen syncing his body movement with Padmé in scenes where she expresses distrust of the jedi and where she gains the trust of the Gungans and their army.

The second thing that supports Jar Jar having force abilities is his name. Jar Jar shares his last name with Bink from the popular 1977 fantasy series Xanth. Bink is the main protagonist, a looked-down-upon figure who got banished from his land because he didn’t possess any magic. Throughout his adventures, Bink survives different situations by miraculous luck. In the end, it’s discovered that he does possess magic, a special magic that always protects him.

The chances of Lucas picking a random 4-5 letter name for an exiled but extremely lucky fool in his fantasy series, and having it match the name of an exiled but extremely lucky fool in another fantasy series by coincidence are astronomically low. More likely it was chosen as a reference to the inspiration. If Bink was an inspiration for Jar Jar, it could indicate that Jar Jar also possesses some sort of force abilities unique to him, be it luck, manipulation, or both.

Furthermore, the reason for Bink’s exile is directly tied to his (lack of) magic abilities. The reason for Jar Jar’s exile, on the other hand, is important to his story but written with a sense of deceit and ambiguity. A protagonist (Obi-Wan) questions Jar Jar on his background as they exit Otoh Gunga, where the Gungan’s first answer is deflecting and his second answer is minimizing what happened. The story thread is never touched upon again.

Since Jar Jar’s manipulative force abilities are only subtly hinted at in the film, I believe Mr Moto does not mention it because this trait was unknown to him. If Mr Moto’s description is true and if Jar Jar has force abilities, these abilities would have likely been intended as a major surprise together with the senator’s evil agenda. This way, Jar Jar would have completed the prequels’ evil mirror image to Yoda as the annoying, jedi-mocking, disliked by R2, comic relief swamp alien revealed as the master wizard.

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Conclusion

Summary

Corroborating statements from 4 credible leakers and Ahmed Best, and a close reading of Episode 1 and other relevant media, make a strong case for what was the original story arc for Jar Jar Binks. 

Jar Jar was supposed to be a prominent political figure in Episode 2 and 3 and rival Palpatine for power. He would likely be the leader of the Loyalist Committee as well as the Gungan army (and, with more systems rallying behind him, possibly other species as well). By the end of Episode 2, Jar Jar is revealed to the audience to be a manipulative dark side force user. With this revelation, we understand he was only playing the fool in Episode 1 to appear innocent, start to infiltrate, gain trust, claim his promotions and ultimately orchestrate his rise to absolute power. His shady backstory and previous exile suddenly seems more relevant. After giving emergency powers to Palpatine, he campaigns on a populist anti-droid/clone agenda to replace the now increasingly authoritarian Supreme Chancellor.

With Jar Jar's movement growing stronger, Palpatine sees his chance and successfully frames Jar Jar as the aspiring dictator. Thus, the civil war-themed trilogy ends with infighting between both the jedi and sith. Palpatine comes out on top and becomes the Emperor who saved the galaxy from an evil tyrant.

Due to character backlash after Episode 1, Lucas rewrote Episode 2 and 3 to feature less of Jar Jar and the Gungans. Jar Jar’s story arc was scrapped completely. Instead of rivaling Palpatine with his own agenda, he became Palpatine’s useful idiot in a very minor role. After being a main character with 24 minutes of screen time in Episode 1, he was reduced to a combined 5 minutes of screen time in Episode 2 and 3.

What could have been

Despite now having an outline of the original story, one is left with many questions about the actual execution. What would Jar Jar’s quest for power have looked like exactly? How would the dark side reveal have happened? What sort of endgame would have played out in Episode 3, when Windu was originally supposed to die earlier at the hands of Boba Fett?

Attempts to pinpoint these story details go much further into speculation-territory than the contents of this post. They are nonetheless great questions for another time. For now, let’s just say it’s easier to analyze the movie we got pre-rewrites than it is to look for clues for what should have happened next. In the end, the only person with all the answers is George Lucas himself.

But if you ever doubted Darth Jar Jar, think again.

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Written by u/Rikard_ October 12, 2026.

Okay im really curious if there is a canon explanation for all this

I saw a number of either youtube short, but I think they were facebook reels about a Star Wars character who would show up to fight various force users. I think he had a metal face mask, and I think he was neither Jedi or Sith. It's not Starkiller and I do not think it was Darth Revan. It's not a character in any movies or tv shows, and I am not familiar enough with the EU or Legends to say for sure, so it might have been fan created, but I don't think so. The videos were still frames with a deep voice over.

It's driving me nuts. Can anyone point me in the direction of who this might be?

In the Kenobi show, how did Obi-Wan Kenobi not make the correlation that Darth Vader was Anakin skywalker?
Because he was surprised when he cut the mask and he said Anakin is that you how do how did he not realise that it was Anakin because he saw in the security accordions and revenge of the Sith that Anakin was named Darth Vader any thoughts?

Nowadays it's become "accepted wisdom" that the Jedi were this flawed organization that caused and even deserved their extinction. Some say they were dogmatic, they didn't fight for people enough (e.g. not going on a slavery-abolishing campaign on Tatooine), that they were too dumb to not allow Jedi marriage, etc.

But the truth is that none of that matters when it comes to their fall: The Jedi fell because Anakin sold them out to Palpatine for literal snake oil. End of story.

What exactly could the Jedi Council have done different? Yoda counseled Anakin on exactly what the right response to his premonitions of losing Padme: buddhist-like wisdom on not letting attachments drive you insane, and learning to let go, because there's nothing you can do about mortality... bonus, in this universe ppl just go back to the force when they die (or so Yoda said) so just accept the flow of life (unlike in our real life, where we have no f-ng idea what happens when we die or how we got here, etc)

The fact that Anakin chose to instead cling to his attachment to the degree of betraying and murdering everyone else is not a failing of the Jedi.

Neither could the Jedi have chopped Anakin's head in his sleep or such, because not only did they not know if Anakin was going to turn good or bad, but even if they knew, Jedi principles would not allow that, obviously.

Also, about the Jedi not going on slavery-eradication campaigns outside the Republic (e.g. Tatooine), they didn't have the manpower, it was too far away, and the Hutts were too entrenched... the Jedi aren't lying when they say they're not soldiers.

Also, about allowing Anakin to marry, that wouldn't have changed a thing, since that had nothing to do with his premonitions of Padme dying. It doesn't have any bearing whatsoever on Anakin sacrificing everyone else for snake oil promises for a cure.

And other arguments like, such as that.

And oh, the one thing that was REALLY weird is that they weren't fazed by the reveal of the clone army... like wtf, nobody even notices the obvious moral implications? The Jedi of all people should've been horrified at it, but even Yoda is like "well, fighting a war we are, and here they are, so use them will we I guess"

In ‘Star Wars: Galactic Racer’ it’s explained that Podracing is a bit of a relic of the past by now (it’s set after RoTJ). Jabba was a fan of Podracing, was rich and powerful. I assume he could have kept it alive, but at some point must have lost interest?

I suppose it’s a bit like being a boxing fan and then moving on to the UFC, but both of them still exist.

Just a thought I had, could even be explained in the EU already and would love to know

In actual Legends canon, their brother Jacen became the Sith Lord Darth Caedus, but had it been Jaina or Anakin who’d fallen instead, what do you see them calling themselves? Jacen’s Sith name was notably decided in a contest (his placeholder name was Darth Kallus) and the name Caedus comes from the Latin word *caedes*, which means to slaughter, kill, or cut down.

Sensing a vergence in the Force, the Jedi Order finds lil baby Sheev and unlike how things go in canon, Cosinga relents and allows his son to be taken by the space wizards. Everything up to that point is the same, everything after that now completely up in the air.

Is Palpatine still a prodigy, or do the rules of the Jedi Order limit him (and how does he feel about that)? What kind of Jedi would he be? Would he struggle with compassion and empathy? Does Plagueis see what Palpatine saw in Maul and Dooku, or does he shoot for the moon and try to recruit Palpatine all the same?

Say, if Anakin Skywalker did not join the Dark Side on that faithful night and killed Palpatine in an epic fight to the death, prevented Order 66 while Padme survives childbirth giving to twins.

I've been thinking of how the galaxy would be if this happened. One is that either Bail Organa or Mon Mothma becomes chancellor. Anakin and Padme have a custom battle with the Jedi in regards to Luke and Leia and win - they settle in the Lake Country on Naboo.

Darth Maul escapes, and gathers his remaining forces and assets. Since Sidious is dead, he declares himself Dark Lord of the Sith and searches for an apprentice (Darth Talon), plotting to succeed where his former master did not.

Lama Su, Nala Se and other Kaminoan scientists and leaders are investigated for their association with the Sith.

However, where does that leave the clones and the military? I was thinking that Mothma would vouch for a full demilitarization, just like before the Clone Wars, but Organa would argue that the Republic still needs a unified army.

While I assume that the Jedi would give up their positions as generals, but what about the clones? I was thinking that while cloning production for the army would be reduced, it won't be stopped completely. Also, natural-born recruits would be introduced while local planetary forces are trained better.

Star Wars: Dawn of the Eclipse

Opening crawl:

The galaxy has been engulfed by a mysterious deadly virus. The origin is UNKNOWN! The New Jedi Order has worked closely with the Royal Republic to manufacture a cure to the contagion however the cure is rare and expensive requiring a rare material known as Benesinium. The Royal Republic quickly searched the galaxy for planets harvesting this life saving mineral and quickly colonized planets with it declaring MARTIAL LAW.

The New Jedi Order, established thirty years ago by Rey Skywalker, has served as the generals of the Royal Republic Army to establish order in the galaxy and the distribution of the life saving cure. Many believe the New Jedi Order has become a mere political PAWN of the Royal Army. 

With the Royal Republic not being able to control and provide for the outer rim, coalitions have formed led by gangs, syndicates, and warlords. One such faction was led by former First Order officer Benson Harold and former Jedi Master Kyle Beaner to secure the cure for citizens of the outer rim. The Royal Army of the Royal Republic has dispatched soon to be Jedi Knight Lars Griding to intercept one of Harold’s vessels harboring stolen Benesinium and bring it back to the safety of the Royal Republic…

The movie opens on Revyia IV, a gas blue stormy giant, Jedi Commander Lars Griding is in a Royal Republic U-Wing. He leads 12th Airborne Battalion of the Royal Army of the Republic, or better known as the Scarif Force. This mission is his last mission before being knighted as a Jedi, he looks out the window into the clouds and storms of the planet thinking about his master, Kyron Miguel. He leans against the glass of the U-Wing window with BDa-4 on his shoulder. 

Major Ilion, veteran of the Resistance and battle of Exegol is assisting Griding’s command. He is a tough leader with an allegiance to Master Miguel, and sees Griding as a child. The Ractus, a Mon Calamari ship orbits the planet above, Griding explains that they will launch EMP blasts disabling Officer Benson Harold’s Vessel. From there the U-Wing will fly over the ship and drop a battalion of 12 men including Griding and Major Ilion using boost packs to land on the surface of the freighter. 

They then jump down onto the freighter and engage Harold’s men. They are made up of First Order Remnant Snow Troopers, Assassin Droids yielding electrostaffs, and a couple of B2 Battle Droids. Griding ignites his blue lightsaber and engages the enemy with his men. 

They then go inside the freighter and it is oddly abandoned. Griding tells Illion to secure the Benesinium in the cargo bay and prepare for dismount. Griding leads two men to secure the bridge. They reach the bridge to find a woman in a red outfit with a virus filterer draped over her face. She turns around, Griding recognizes her as Sylas Reed, she was a padawan with Griding then left the order when she was 16 with her master Kyle Beaner. He is surprised to see her eight years later. He talks to her, confirming who she is. She then ignites a lightsaber, it is an old Inquisitor blade, both sides ignite as red. She then engages Griding, he tells his two men to run. 

Ilion opens the cargo pods and realizes it's a ploy. He calls the U-Wing immediately for extraction and attempts to contact Gridling. 

Gridling and Reed continue to fight, their fight is very fluid though, almost like a dance. They talk during it. He asks her why she is working for Harold, she then is very vague and says she knows the truth. He asks about what and she doesn’t answer, they continue to fight. 

The U-Wing flies in and the men are being picked up, the two men that were with Gridling jump onto the U-Wing, Ilion asks where he is, they don’t know, Ilion tells the pilot to hold a position above the ship, which is very tough in the storm. 

Griding then ignites his second blade on his lightsaber, forcing Reed on the defensive. He then slashes the window, air from outside flows in, Reed then tells Griding that the Jedi are mere pawns of the Royal Republic and that he needs to find the Eclipse Holocron in the Chandrilan Jedi Temple.(Chandrila is the capital of the Royal Republic and the Chandrilan temple is the home of the New Jedi Order) Reed then leaps out of the window, activating her lightsaber to fly. She is picked up by a modified Dark Green Star Courier, the Star Courier jumps to hyperspace, escaping with the stolen Benesinium.

Ilion rushes onto the bridge to see Griding kneeling looking out the broken window, he yells at Griding to get up and evacuate the ship before the Ractus fires an orbital strike that will destroy the freighter. Griding gets up, and follows Ilion, he is stuck thinking about Reed though and what she said about the holocron. They reach the U-Wing and use their jump packs to get on and the U-Wing immediately flies away as the Ractus fires two orbital strikes destroying the freighter. The U-Wing then jumps to hyperspace. 

Sylas Reed arrives on Dert-V in the StarCane Nebula. There is a camp of the poor, first order remnant troopers, and criminals seeking refuge and cures from the virus. There is an old Republic Acclamator landed with a large amount of tents, the Acclamator has seen better days but is still functional. Vulture droids guard the village. 

They land on the planet, Master Kyle Beaner runs out from one of the tents, he is wearing a detox pressure suit, he has the virus, his face appears through the helmet. The virus is eating through his flesh so his face looks droopy and deformed. Reed passes him a vial of Benesinium and he pokes himself with it, he stops coughing, then orders the droids to off load the Benesinium and distribute it. Beaner then talks to Reed about the mission and she tells him about Griding. They then walk to the Alcamator to go see Officer Harold. 

The U-Wing lands on Chandrila, capital of the Royal Republic. The capital city of Chandrila is named Anex(formally Hanna City). Anex is patrolled by Royal Republic forces that are enforcing a curfew to prevent the spread of the virus, the capital was shifted to Chandrilla after Coruscant was overrun by the virus nine years prior. The city was quickly urbanized and put together. Skyscrapers loom through the mountainous terrain, as the U-Wing approaches a landing zone atop of the New Jedi Temple. 

Griding steps out of the U-Wing his master, Kyron Miguel greets him then walks with him into the New Jedi Temple. Master Miguel explains that he was able to vouch for the council and despite his failure on the mission they will still grant him Jedi Knight. He tells Griding he must meet with Grand Master Quinton Sealgus immediately though. Griding can tell Master Miguel is disappointed with his failure. 

Griding and his Master walk through the Grand Hall, it is very luxurious, the ceiling is high and arched, with golden accents. On each wall are statues and busts of past important Jedi. They walk past an archway. Master Miguel waits outside while Griding walks in. 

The room is lit up by natural light that seeps through the blinds. Inside the room are two comfortable chairs. Grand Master Sealgus tells Griding to take a seat then they discuss the mission. Sealgus agrees to recommend Griding to be a Jedi Knight however he must not be twisted by what Sylas Reed said because she is what he calls a Dark Jedi and an enemy of the Republic. Griding is made uneasy by this then leaves. He walks out into the hall and tells his master that he will be knighted that evening. 

Sylas Reed and Master Kyle Beaner meet with Officer Harold on the bridge of Aclimator. They discuss the success of the mission to get the Benesinium off world and transported to Dert-V. Officer Harold then says the Benesinium is not enough though for the people in the camp, they need to attack another site to secure more. 

Harold and Beaner then show Reed a map that was leaked to them by a whistleblower in the Royal Republic. The base of mining operations comes from the planet Bersason in the mid-rim. Harold plans to launch an attack using the Acclimator and Buzz Droids to take out enemy snub fighters then using the Star Courier to land troops on the planet and storm the compound securing the Benesinium. Reed is hesitant, she doesn’t want to risk it as it would be a direct act of terrorism and war against the Royal Republic and it would disrupt the flow of vital Benesinium to the core worlds. Her master reminds her in this galaxy it is every man for himself. Beaner then takes Reed down to the surface of Dert-V and brings her to a Jedi Temple, the reason they settled there, he shows her a ancient portal revealing it to be the World Between Worlds portal. They then walk away, the camera pans down to the ground revealing black spores descending like snow. 

Griding meets with his friend, Wilson Genova, as Griding gets ready for the knighting ceremony. They talk about the mission and Sylas Reed. All three of them were Jedi Padawans together. Then when Master Kyle Beaner left the order she followed him. Griding then tells Genova what she said about the Eclipse Holocron and the corruption of the Royal Republic. Genova reminds him that he’s not allowed in the archive without permission from the Grand Master. Griding says he will sneak in and find it. 

Harold. Beaner, and Reed load up the Aclimator and take off, the Aclimator goes into hyperspace as Harold stands on the bridge. Beaner and Reed prepare a squad of troops in the Star Courier to land on the surface of Bersason.

Griding meets with his master and they walk into the ceremony, they quickly discuss Reed and Beaner and Griding’s skeptics with the order, providing context that Reed and Beaner left the order years ago. Miguel tells Griding that Reed is merely the padawan of Beaner and says, “Beaner made his choice a long time ago. Don’t let him make yours.” A choir sings a soft siren symphony. Griding walks down the aisle in his ceremonial Jedi robes, he looks distracted, thinking about what Reed said about the Royal Republic, he then thinks about Grand Master Sealgus’s suspicious reaction to it. He reaches the end of the aisle and kneels before the Jedi Council. Grand Master Sealgus begins to ask Griding if he accepts the Jedi creed. 

The Acclimator comes out of hyperspace in the atmosphere of Bersason, bypassing the Royal Republic Planetary Shield. The Star Courier launches from the Acclimator, trailed by Vulture droids and Buzz droids. X-Wings and E-Wings launch from the surface and begin engaging with the Vulture Droids but are torn apart by the Buzz Droids.

The ceremony continues, Grand Master Sealgus asks if Griding may state his allegiance to the Jedi Order and the light side of the force. He repeats that part of the creed. Grand Master Sealgus ignites his lightsaber and knights Griding on the first pillar. 

Reed and Beaner land on the planet. Jedi Knight Sio'nara is stationed on Bersason. She leads the Royal Republic security force to defend against Reed and Beaner. Reed engages Sio'nara in lightsaber combat as Beaner rushes in leading some First Order Remnant Troopers into the base to secure the Benesinium. 

The ceremony continues, Grand Master Sealgus asks if Griding is ready to accept the laws of morality and for him to state his allegiance to all that is good and moral, the choir intensifies. Griding looks down and a tear begins to form in his eye, sensing that something is wrong and does not feel right. Griding repeats the second pillar of the creed. Grand Master Sealgus knights Griding on the second pillar. 

Harold continues the fight commanding the Acclimator. On the surface Reed continues to fight Sio'nara. Beaner enters the compound with his troops. Royal Republic troops attempt to contact Anex and report the attack. They get through to a satellite station orbiting Chandrilla. The station beams down the message asking for the Jedi to assist. 

The ceremony continues, Grand Master Sealgus asks if Griding pledges his allegiance to the Royal Republic, Griding weeps knowing that he can’t pledge his allegiance, sensing the pain and loss Reed spoke of. Griding looks up at the Grand Master just as Major Ilion rushes in, he is yelling about the attack on Bersason, Grand Master Sealgus curses under his breath and calls off the ceremony. He looks down distrustingly at Griding. Sealgus then commands Master Miguel to lead the attack using the complete 12th Battalion and the Ractus. Grand Master Sealgus then tells Griding to walk with him. They quickly discuss where Griding’s true loyalty lies, but Griding can tell something is not right, he decides to somehow get that holocron. Instead of returning to his quarters like Sealgus commanded he goes to visit with Genova. 

The attack on Bersason continues as Reed is able to best Sio'nara in combat, forcing her to stand down. Beaner secures the Benesinium and is able to get out of the facility. They begin running for the Star Courier to fly back onto the Acclimator. Beaner is struggling, he grabs a vile of Benesinium from the crate and pops it into his arm, making him feel better. 

Griding talks to Genova. Genova tells him it's a bad idea to go against the Grand Master’s wishes. Genova was just knighted six months prior, he tells Griding to just trust the process. Griding then walks out of Genova’s quarters, looks down the hall toward his quarters then goes the other way, to find the holocron. Griding summons BDa-4 to his shoulder. 

The Ractus arrives on Bersason and begins engaging Harold on the Acclimator. The Ractus deploys three U-Wings to the surface of Bearsason to provide ground support, led by Major Ilion. A-Wings and E-Wings are deployed to fight the enemy Vulture droids. A dogfight begins. Master Miguel climbs into his X-83 TwinTail Jedi Starfighter and begins engaging the Vulture droids. 

Reed and Beaner take off from the surface with the stolen Benesinium. Sio'nara gets up and coms Miguel for back up, sending the location and trajectory of the Star Courier. Miguel swoops down and begins a dogfight with the Star Courier. 

Back on Chandrilla, Griding uses a Jedi mindtrick on the guards, he gets into the vault and walks over to the library of holocrons. BDa-4 scans the area, looking for the Eclipse Holocron, they find it and Griding uses the force to open it. A recording plays of a distress call, it is former Grand Master and founder of the New Jedi Order, Rey Skywalker, she frantically says, “They call themselves the Yuuzhan Vong, they’re not from our galaxy.” a woman brutally dies behind her, “They have come to spread their spores throughout the galaxy, no one is safe.” The recording continues as a black figure grabs Rey’s neck and snaps it, she drops the com unit and it is consumed by the black alien gooey spores. Griding is shocked, he twists the holocron more, it shows a galaxy map with black dots on planets in the Unknown Regions, leading towards the core worlds, the next planet on the path is Dert-V. 

Grand Master Sealgus in robes walks into the library and yells for Griding to drop the holocron. Griding refuses, asking Sealgus what it's about. Sealgus looks behind him and looks back at Griding. Griding twists the holocron again, a younger Sealgus begins, “After Grand Admiral Thrawn came back from Peridea a signal was sent out to neighboring galaxies that our home was ready for a higher form of war. They sent the virus to dampen our military powers, murdered everyone on Coruscant, Fondor, Corellia, and in many other systems, and now they’ve come. They consume planets with their spores and extract its resources to reproduce and multiply then move on to the next planet. Grand Master Skywalker was the first to attempt to fight back, she was killed immediately, they’re too strong.” Griding is confused and angry he asks how long they have, Sealgus says 12 years until the galaxy is consumed. Griding looks up angrily asking if he planned on telling people. Sealgus pauses and tells Griding to give him the holocron. Griding is even angrier, he yells were they going to tell people, or just let the galaxy die. Sealgus remains calm and tells Griding to give him the holocron. Griding looks up, looks down, then force pushes Sealgus back, and put the holocron into BDa-4 and tell the droid to run 

Miguel is able to shoot down the Star Courier, it crashes. Miguel lands his TwinTail Starfighter and leaps out drawing his lightsaber. Reed rushes out of the crashed ship and begins fighting Miguel. Miguel has two lightsabers, a purple blade and a cyan shorter blade and begins to fight the dark Jedi. Beaner tells Harold to fly the Aclimator down to the surface backwards to protect from the Ractus with minimal damage and pick up the Benesinium. He begins the maneuver as the lightsaber battle continues on the surface.

Griding ignites his double bladed blue lightsaber but Sealgus also ignites his blade, a yellow, single blade. They begin a fight. Sealgus quickly overpowers Griding and force pushes him against the wall. Then Genova rushes in, he ignites his single bladed green saber and begins to fight Sealgus, catching him off guard, and screams for his friend to run. 

Griding leaps from the balcony of the library, telling BDa-4 to deploy his boost pack rig. He ignites his lightsaber and uses it to descend the building. Sealgus easily defeats Genova, force freezing him, then yelling for the Chandrillian police to go after Griding. Griding continues to flee. 

Miguel chops Reed’s lightsaber, destroying it then forces her to the ground. Beaner steps out from the wrecked ship limping, cleary the virus is getting to him, he yells for his brother, Kyron Miguel to stand down. Miguel looks up and asks his brother why he’s doing this, betraying the order. Beaner explains his belief and how the Royal Republic wasn’t fast enough to save their mother. Miguel looks down and retracts his lightsaber. Allowing Reed and Beaner to flee with the stolen Benesinium.

Griding continues to run. He leaps from the side of a building into a speeder as the police continue to chase him. Griding reaches his TwinTail Jedi Starfighter but it is destroyed by Royal Republic police gunships. Grand Master Sealgus catches up and tells Griding to stand down, Griding looks at him and then leaps up, his suit, with BDa-4 on the jet pack, flies and catches him, he activates his jet pack and boosts up. Music intensifies, as an E-Wing flies above catching Griding, BDa gets into the droid spot. Griding looks down at Chandrilla and goes into hyperspace. 

Grand Master Sealgus calls Master Miguel to return to Chandrilla, disappointed by the loss but demanding to discuss Griding. Miguel asks why but Grand Master just demands his return to the temple on Chandrilla. 

Reed arrives on Dert-V in the Acclimator, Beaner is struggling, being very weak. He refuses the Benesinium treatment though wanting to save it for the refugees at the colony. The horizon of Dert-V is dark as a black snow begins. All who go outside wear suits to protect against the spores, evacuations begin. 

Griding jumps out of hyperspace and flies down to Dert-V. Officer Harold begins to command to shoot the E-Wing down but Beaner stops him, telling Harold that the force brought him here, he glances at Reed with a smirk. Griding lands and gets out of the E-Wing, he puts his hand on his lightsaber ready to fight as Reed and Beaner approach. Beaner has been equip with mechanical legs to assist with his failing body. Beaner tells him not to fear and asks for the holocron, Griding glances at Reed and she nods. He hands it over, and then they go up to the bridge of the Acclimator to plan a route for the evacuation.

Grand Master Sealgus talks to Master Miguel in the temple, calling Griding a traitor, ordering Miguel to hunt down Griding and turn him into the Royal Republic to prevent him turning into a Dark Jedi like Reed and Miguel’s brother Beaner. Miguel is skeptical, and then walks out. He meets with Major Ilion and asks if there’s any way to find Griding and after thinking, they track Griding’s suit. They load up the 12th Airborne Battalion and full Scarif Force aboard the Ractus. They set course for Dert-V. Grand Master Sealgus watches their departure, telling Grand General Joston Keller of the Royal Republic Navy to be weary, it is up to them to ensure order and peace in this trying time.

The storm of spores intensifies Beaner tells Reed and Griding to suit up and he takes them down to the Jedi Temple on Dert-V. The Acclimator takes off. Reed and Griding are confused, but Beaner explains the key to defeating the Yuuzhan Vong doesn’t lie in the physical realm and it was up to the two of them to find the key to victory in the world of the force. 

The Ractus comes out of hyperspace above Dert-V. Officer Harold sees this and begins to ready his ships meager fleet of fighters to engage, a transmission comes in, Harold answers and it’s Master Miguel, he if they can help with the refugees, Harold is surprised but agrees as the refugees are starving and low on supplies. Miguel asks where Griding is, making sure Griding is safe, Harold says Griding is on Dert with his brother. Miguel smiles and prepares a U-Wing to take him to the surface. 

The storm of the spores intensifies as the Yuuzhan Vong take the planet. Reed and Griding enter the temple area, the spores flood in through the entrance. Beaner gives Reed his lightsaber in a touching moment. Beaner uses the force to open the gate of the world between worlds as the spores enter fluttering throughout the temple, the moment is intense as he struggles to open the gate, he’s dying the virus is getting the best of him. Intense music begins(think docking scene in Intersteller). Beaner whips off his helemet and lets the force coarse though him opening the gate demanding Reed and Griding go through, they don’t, music intensifies further, he yells again for them to go through and tells them it is the only way. Griding, Reed, and BDa-4 go through the portal, it shuts and Beaner falls to the ground. 

The intense music continues as Miguel leaps off the U-Wing, suited up, he runs into the temple to find his brother on the floor, dying. Miguel embraces him and Beaner tells him that Griding and Reed are safe, and that they will save them all. Beaner tells Miguel to return to the ship and watch the Eclipse Holocron, it will explain everything. Beaner’s skin fully melts away as Miguel embraces him. Migueal takes a final look at the non-activated portal and flees to the U-Wing and the U-Wing flies to the Acclimator. 

The Eclipse Hologram begins to be played on the bridge of the Acclimator(docked with the Ractus). Miguel, Ilion, Harold, and other members of the remnant and 12th Battalion watch. It is a speech being given by a younger Beaner: “We are at a crossroads of the survival of our galaxy.” 

“Our padawans and children may not live to see the beauty of our galaxy last we act now,” cuts to Grand Master Sealgus overlooking a sunset on Chandrilla. “It is up to us, relics of the Great Jedi Order,”

“Not to fight the fight for righteousness or for a mere political thought,” Cuts to Genova in a cell on Chandrilla, “but for the future of all whom reside within the confines of which we govern.”

“We must be brave and band together, not as factions but as one, and only then will we be able to stop a threat this large and save generations to come,” Back on the Acclimator pans around to the survivors. 

“May the Force be with us, all of us” Cuts to the World Between Worlds. Rather than a black void it is vivid, teaming with life and color. Somber but confident music swells. Reed and Griding hold hands, embracing the hardships to come but ready to face them together. Credits. 

You can hate it all you like, but doing some brainstorming I was thinking this sounded like something possibly exceptional.

So "What if Anakin was redeemed by Obi-Wan?" Hear me out.

If Obi-Wan had redeemed Anakin on Mustafar, the duo would have overthrown Palpatine immediately, preventing the rise of the Galactic Empire and changing galactic history forever.

The Fall of Palpatine

The Return to Coruscant: Anakin realizes Palpatine lied to him about saving Padmé. He joins Obi-Wan and Yoda to storm the Chancellor's office.

Defeating the Sith: Together, the Jedi overpower Darth Sidious. The clone army receives a counter-order, halting Order 66 before the Jedi purge devastates the galaxy.

A Healed Family

Padmé Survives: With medical care on Coruscant or Polis Massa, Padmé lives through the childbirth.

Raising the Twins: Anakin, Padmé, Luke, and Leia live openly as a family. Anakin balances his duties as a Jedi with being a present father.

Reforming the Jedi OrderCode Changes: The Jedi Council realizes their old rules were too strict and drove Anakin toward darkness. They rewrite the code to allow emotional attachments and family.

Ahsoka's Return: Ahsoka Tano returns to the Jedi Order and becomes a high council member, working side-by-side with Anakin and Obi-Wan.

New Adventures and Threats

Exploring the Unknown Regions: Freed from the Clone Wars and the Empire, Anakin and Obi-Wan lead expeditions into uncharted space.

Ancient Secrets: They hunt down hidden Sith relics, face remnant dark-side cults, and protect the peaceful New Republic from outer-rim warlords.

Integration of the Old Republic Lore

Integrating the Old Republic lore into Anakin and Obi-Wan’s new era would bridge thousands of years of galactic history perfectly. Instead of fighting an Empire from within, the Jedi would become galactic archeologists and guardians, racing against dark-side cultists to secure ancient Sith secrets.

Here is how the threat of Revan, Nihilus, and Sion could have resurfaced to challenge a reformed Jedi Order:

The Cult of the Sith Triumvirate

The Malachor V Resurgence: In the chaos following Palpatine's defeat, a radical faction of dark side zealots uncovers the ruins of the Trayus Academy on Malachor V.

The Awakening of Sion: Using ancient Sith alchemy, the cult binds the scattered spirit of Darth Sion back into physical form. His body—held together purely by pain and hatred—becomes an unstoppable, immortal vanguard terrorizing Outer Rim worlds.

The Shadow of Nihilus: The cult seeks to weaponize the world-eating power of Darth Nihilus. Instead of a physical being, Nihilus returns as a cosmic, parasitic Force anomaly—a "wound in the Force" that begins consuming entire colonies. Anakin and Obi-Wan must lead a fleet to stop this plague before it reaches the Core Worlds.

The Quest for Revan’s Legacy

The Holocron Race: To defeat these ancient horrors, Anakin and Obi-Wan realize the modern Jedi archives are useless. They must hunt for the lost Holocron of Darth Revan, the only being who successfully navigated both the deepest dark and the light.

Anakin’s Mirrors: Hunting for Revan mirrors Anakin's own life. Anakin would study Revan's journey—a fallen Jedi hero who returned to the light—to fully understand his own redemption and find the balance needed to defeat the Triumvirate.

The Star Forge Remnants: The search leads the duo to hidden pockets of the Unknown Regions, fighting off ancient assassin droids and Sith cults guarding the ruined legacy of the Infinite Empire.

A New Era of Star Wars Movies, this shift would turn the franchise into an epic, mythological sci-fi adventure series:

Movie 1: Shadows of the Old Republic – Obi-Wan and Anakin investigate the mysterious destruction of an Outer Rim planet, discovering the return of Darth Sion.

Movie 2: The Jedi Paradox – Anakin tracks down Revan’s hidden holocron, forcing the Jedi Council to accept that dark and light must be understood to save the galaxy.

Movie 3: The Wound in the Force – A massive space battle where Anakin, Obi-Wan, and a teenage Luke and Leia use Revan’s ancient strategies to destroy the Nihilus anomaly once and for all.

It would have felt like a true epic saga rather than a tragedy, giving fans a generational story that built cleanly upon its own mythology instead of breaking it down.

Instead of the galaxy resetting into a familiar "Empire vs. Rebels" dynamic every few decades, this timeline would allow the universe to organically progress. It would provide a masterclass in long-form storytelling across three major fronts:

The Ultimate Character Arcs

Obi-Wan’s Reward: Instead of rotting away in a desert watching a boy from afar, Obi-Wan gets to see his "brother" thrive. He becomes a revered Grand Master, watching the family he helped save grow.

Anakin’s True Destiny: Anakin doesn't just fulfill the prophecy by dying; he fulfills it by living. He bridges the gap between the strict Old Jedi rules and the emotional reality of being human, becoming the ultimate balance in the Force.

The Twin Dynasties: We would get multiple movies watching Luke and Leia grow from children into powerful, distinct Jedi Knights under the direct guidance of the two greatest masters in the galaxy.

A Richer Galactic World-Building

The universe would expand rather than contract. Without an Empire restricting travel and blowing up planets, the franchise could explore:

The High-Tech Core: Coruscant and the Core Worlds remaining at their peak, blending political intrigue with grand sci-fi visuals.

The Mystical Unknown: Deep-space exploration where the Force behaves in strange, ancient ways, moving beyond just "desert planets" and "jungle moons."

Inter-generational Scale: A massive, 10-to-12 movie series that spans 40 years of in-universe time, letting the audience literally grow up alongside Luke and Leia.

A Meaningful Connection to the Past

By bringing in Revan, Sion, and Nihilus, the story stops feeling like an isolated incident involving just one family (the Skywalkers) and one politician (Palpatine). It connects the modern heroes to a millennia-old cosmic struggle. It makes the Star Wars universe feel like a real, breathing history where the actions of ancient Sith actually matter to the present day.

It would be a series rooted in healing, growth, and discovery rather than loss and survival.

Obviously this is just food for thought, and what an epic story line this could have produced. Anyways what are your thoughts Star Wars Community?