r/SeattleWA • • Jun 22 '26

Events Keith Duggan: Seattle appeared magical – the US may have found its natural football home – The Irish Times

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2026/06/22/keith-duggan-seattle-appeared-magical-the-us-may-have-found-its-natural-football-home/

I think the Irish are onto something.

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u/Ok_Faithlessness4511 Jun 22 '26

It’s open air and it’s close to downtown and the water. Good vibes on a beautiful day. These other stadiums are being built like 30 miles out of town and in another state.

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u/blackberrypietoday2 Jun 22 '26

These other stadiums are being built like 30 miles out of town and in another state

Such venues seem so unpleasant as far as their locations – far from the cities, and with mainly dull, flat, treeless, parking-lot surroundings.

The FIFA finals will be played at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Seattle would have been a far superior venue due to its in-town location.

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u/st0chasticism Jun 22 '26

Another case in point , the monstrous shit box in Santa Clara.

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u/csehusky Jun 23 '26

Lumen South?

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u/cedont4221 Jun 23 '26

Seattle Stadium* South

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u/csehusky Jun 23 '26

*Field South

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

Seattle stadium field south?

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u/Development-Alive Jun 22 '26

The PST time difference will always work against Seattle, especially in something as big as WC final.

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u/Trickycoolj Jun 23 '26

10am would be a prime time start in Central Europe it’s not that bad.

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u/iamawizard1 Jun 23 '26

It’s the World Cup people would watch at any time also having it as noon here is no issue too

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u/Funsizep0tato Jun 22 '26

Getting to foxborough is a nightmare. Being near city center is fantastic. (Just one example)

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u/WhichAd366 Jun 22 '26

I’ll give Philadelphia credit here too. There stadium is just south of downtown and walking distance to several cool areas.

(I’m a Seahawks fan that lived in Philly for several years. I’ve also been to the Jets/Giants stadium which is basically just surrounded by parking lots).

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u/losark Jun 22 '26

But so much less money to be made in ticket sales.

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u/FoxKnockers Jun 22 '26

Think its a coincidence that Italy will not be playing where Jimmy Hoffa is buried?

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u/mctomtom West Seattle Jun 22 '26

Can also get there by train which is a huge plus.

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u/Buttafuoco Jun 23 '26

And by sea

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u/gameboy00 Jun 24 '26

and from the sky

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

But wait, I've been told on here that Seattle is a chithole, overrun by drug addicts and homeless. The city looks like Dresden after WW2. That's it's full of trash and basically unlivable....This article must be fake news.

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u/Fun-Grab-9337 Jun 23 '26

I mean the city did do a sweep of the area before the WC.

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u/Ok_Faithlessness4511 Jun 22 '26

I do have thoughts on that. It appears the city cleaned up that area for the occasion (my brother went to a game and said that). If you don’t think Seattle has those problems to an unhealthy degree, I respectfully disagree.

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

Every city has those issues, Seattle is no different. Is it perfect, no. But it's nothing like how conservatives describe it. There's some conservatives that are so blinded by the misinformation that they are afraid to go into cities like Seattle. Hell, the Peirce county sherif told everyone that Seattle is unsafe. He sure was wrong about that, as hundreds of thousands stream through the city, having the times of their lives. edit-I'm glad your brother made it out alive, must have been a harrowing experience.

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u/Toidal Jun 23 '26

My friends brother from the midwest came out here with his wife for a conference and was so psyched to see the clownfiesta that is the McStabbys. He was honestly pretty disappointed.

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

haha oh mcstabbies

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u/WhichAd366 Jun 22 '26

“Unhealthy degree”. Compared to what? Most cities have these issues.

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u/-Ernie Jun 22 '26

Such a sad perspective…

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u/triton420 Jun 22 '26

No one one this sub actually likes the city they live in. Not sure when it was paradise for them, but it must have been before I was born in the 70's

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

Very few actually live in Seattle, a lot of foreign bots and folks from other states chiming in on this sub. There's a handful, and you can tell when they can reference a landmark or street. The others just talk in general terms about how it's a chuthole and unlivable, clearly indicating they haven't been in the city anytime in the last 5-10 years if ever.

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u/Distinct-Nectarine-9 Jun 22 '26

I’m here everyday for work and live just north of City limits. I believe that people’s description of how dystopian this awesome city is to prevent anyone else from wanting to come here. People don’t want to share. Everyone I’ve come into contact with that’s here for the tournament is madly in love with Seattle.

I left for 20 years working for airline industry all over America, now I’m back I’m never leaving again.

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u/Ok_Faithlessness4511 Jun 23 '26

Hey, I’m at least from Seattle, but I got pushed out because I couldn’t afford living among the global elite

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u/Distinct-Nectarine-9 Jun 23 '26

Yeah I was born at UW, grew up in SODO and Ballard. Came back and moved to Shoreline because of the costs.

Living other places had me realizing that what ever we pay is well worth it for such a magical place. Most cities I’ve lived have the exact same problems, but without the awesomeness.

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

like the guy from Austin who was talking about the city of Ravena and got mad when he was called out

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u/Lollc Jun 23 '26

No one? Bullshit. I still love Seattle. My heart has been broken by many of the changes, and I’m full of fury about some of the things that happened. But I still love Seattle.

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

In 10 years these same people will be crowing about how amazing Seattle was in 2026. *edit autocorrect.... im clearly not 10 years

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u/therealmudslinger Jun 23 '26

Where do you live?

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u/Ok_Faithlessness4511 Jun 24 '26

Uhhh what? Not propaganda. It’s quite routine to have to cross the street because of a naked person yelling something violent and swinging a weapon. And honestly I’m a bit shocked how clean some other cities are. Literally NYC seems clean compared to the west coast cities.

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u/Frequent-Account-344 Jun 23 '26

The part of town the stadium is in is pretty rough. Sure they cleaned it up for the World Cup.

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u/Hopsblues Jun 24 '26

Name a city the size of Seattle that doesn't have rough area's.

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u/Kinky_Otto Jun 24 '26

Pioneer Square? If by rough you mean it has tourist attractions, that cool indoor mini golf place, nightclubs & concert venues, coffee shops, restaurants, and a really nice toy store then sure, that's super rough. Sure, it's on the rail line for Sounder and Amtrak so you get some noise.

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u/G8oraid Jun 24 '26

I run into people in Orange County that ask if the half of the city that was burned down has been rebuilt yet.

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u/thatguy425 Jun 22 '26

Well it is, just not at Lumen field. 

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u/altasnob Jun 22 '26

It's a very real possibility that we copy all those other cites, shut down Lumen Field, and build a new stadium out in Kent or somewhere.

New Seahawks owners may want to replace Lumen Field, following NFL trend

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/new-seahawks-owners-may-want-to-replace-lumen-field-following-nfl-trend/

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u/uncleAW Jun 22 '26

Seattle times click bait.
No owner is replacing Lumen anytime soon. Aside from the rabid fans, It's a huge calling card. The national media loves coming to Lumen for Seahawk games. Any new owner is going to look at what that stadium does for the team.

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u/qwertyqyle Jun 22 '26

Also, even if for some reason they didn't want the second loudest stadium in the world, wouldn't Sounders just keep it for themselves?

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

I fully expect that when it's time to replace lumen they will play at uw for a few years and rebuild in the same spot again.

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u/altasnob Jun 22 '26

I think it depends on your definition of "replace." I could see a total renovation of Lumen Field at its current location and the Seahawks playing at UW for a season or two for the construction. I agree I don't see them moving to Kent or Everett or anywhere because the current location is so central to the region and transit friendly. The truth is Lumen Field is old by NFL standards.

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u/TheInevitableLuigi Jun 22 '26

The truth is Lumen Field is old by NFL standards.

No it is not.

Half the league has an older stadium. And ten other teams's stadiums were built plus or minus three years from when Lumen Field was.

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u/uncleAW Jun 22 '26

Definitely renovations will occur. The way they overhauled the Hawksnest could be a template.
Address 1-5% areas every offseason for a few years rather than shutting down for a full season.
I was in a box for a Storm game last year. It was clearly starting to show wear and tear.
It's mostly cosmetics and fitments that will need overhaul in the building. That stuff can be staged offsite and installed offseason.
It's a gem of a site. No new owner will want to leave it.

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u/WhichAd366 Jun 22 '26

Flat out wrong. Lumen Field is in the top 1/3 of newest NFL stadiums. https://footballstadiumdigest.com/2017/09/nfl-stadiums-listed-oldest-to-newest/

There are 16 stadiums older than Lumen Field (built in 2002). There are 3 other stadiums that opened in 2002 and 1 more in 2003.

So there are really only 9 stadiums newer than Lumen Field. Only 5/9 of those stadiums opened after 2010.

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u/altasnob Jun 22 '26

That's flat out wrong. There are 15 stadiums in the NFL older than Lumen (Bills have a new stadium). And then how many of those teams that play in one of the 15 older stadiums are looking to replace/renovate in the near future? That Seattle Times article is correct that a new Seahawks owner is going to want major renovations of Lumen in the near future. That's the point of the article.

Look down I-5 at Portland. Moda Center is 30 years and new Blazer owner is talking about major renovations or he'll move the team.

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

and 8 of those are currently in the replacement phase. and bears stadium is new

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

agree are only 7 stadiums older than lumen that are not currently being replaced. soldier field literally dies not count as old it's just as new as lumen

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u/nitrot150 Jun 22 '26

And so many business should be pissed if lumen moved elsewhere

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u/qwertyqyle Jun 22 '26

Owners don't care about local businesses.

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u/qwertyqyle Jun 22 '26

Look what happened in Chicago...

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u/Dull_Syrup9035 Jun 23 '26

the team is going to lose value so the joke is on them. why not just move the Seahawks to Yakima the land will be cheap! oh wait Yakima makes mcstabbies look safe

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u/picky-penguin Queen Anne Jun 22 '26

Friday was a great day and it was so fun to see the city shine.

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u/Flashy_Gap_3015 Jun 22 '26

It didn’t show the skyline or any other noticeable and loveable parts of Seattle but just the shots that showed bright crystalline blue skies with hardly a cloud as they pulled back to show the stands facing the Crows Nest - man it’s the best time to be in Seattle.

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u/myrealaccount_really Jun 23 '26

Right? They caught one of our 3 sunny days of the year!

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u/Flashy_Gap_3015 Jun 23 '26

It’s been a while since June-uary has been a thing - we got that last year a bit, and we’re in for some rainy weather for a bit ahead, but sunny weather over the last 5 plus years is starting and staying more consistent in late March/April than it ever was before.

Bad in that the underlying reason is global warming. But I am not going to lie, I enjoy more sunny days we seem to be having in the recent past.

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u/Sun_Tzu_7 Jun 22 '26

Maybe my favorite part:

"Like many people, I’d arrived on the eve of the game and wasn’t entirely sure what to expect. But Seattle seems wonderfully relaxed about everything. They opened the bars at 7am and by 10.45 on the morning of the game, Occidental and King and the other streets running down from Pioneer Square were transformed into a berserk carnival of happy Aussies and American fans wandering past anti-Ice, anti-Trump, pro-Workers and anti-Cuba- blockade protesters."

The last sentence sounds so Seattle, although to be fair you would probably get the same thing in Portland.... and then some. 😄

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u/daft_plant001100 Jun 22 '26

Yeah, we don't think about Portland much around here.

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u/savethepinatas Jun 22 '26

and yet you replied JUST to comment on Portland…

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u/Orleanian Fremont Jun 22 '26

Frankly, I can't stop thinking about Portland at the moment!

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u/qwertyqyle Jun 22 '26

Portland is like a pesky little brother to Seattleites. Like, they are family, but god they annoy you sometimes.

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u/Total_Aerie_3778 Jun 23 '26

They are exactly that. Seattle is the emo older sibling who plays grunge and drink coffee.

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u/srosenberg34 Jun 23 '26

Yes, and Seattle is living off of its parents trust fund while little brother Portland scrapes by on its own dime.

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u/Gabrielsoma Jun 24 '26

And lefties does realize that trust fund is coming to and end when all of the businesses start leaving due to lefty policies

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u/daft_plant001100 Jun 24 '26

Wow, really edge lord of you.

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u/daft_plant001100 Jun 26 '26

Sorry, I don't remember what we were talking about. Ellensburg?

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u/JaneAndWilliamPitt Jun 22 '26

Obviously the issue is that the training facility is in Atlanta and players are traveling in from europe. That will probably cause Seattle to continue to get less games than they ideally would.

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u/Chief-Drinking-Bear Jun 22 '26

Especially after the whole World Cup run takes place on the west coast, I don’t expect the team to come back out west for a year or so for any friendlies

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u/HelloItsNotMeUr Jun 22 '26

Yep, location plus field will always limit us. We have gotten Copa and Gold Cup matches, so I think we are in a strong position for regular tournaments. Tougher for one off friendlies and qualifiers.

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u/futant462 Columbia City Jun 22 '26

Wdym the final is on the east coast. 😉

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u/Chief-Drinking-Bear Jun 22 '26

That’s the attitude I like to hear! Haha

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u/futant462 Columbia City Jun 22 '26

Hey I see us with 6.7% chance odds to make the final. It's not crazy!
See more cool stuff here

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

Not only the travel for the players from Europe, but all our WCQ'a are on Central America and the Caribbean, and Atlanta is a good hub for that aspect. Close to Europe, close to where we tend to travel to the most. The team has been training in SoCal after the Germany game because they knew their games were on the west coast.

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u/huskiesowow Jun 22 '26

Paris to Atlanta is 9:30, Paris to Seattle is 10:15. 45 minute difference doesn't matter.

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

Paris to Atlanta is 9 hours? Regardless the vast majority of our games are much closer to Atlanta than Seattle.

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u/huskiesowow Jun 23 '26

9.5 hours. Atlanta is pretty far south and Seattle far north, ends up erasing most of the difference in longitude (since planes fly to/from Europe on an arc).

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u/leggomyfredo Jun 22 '26

It's summertime in Seattle. It's a great summertime city. Ever wonder how Mariners fans put up with so much disappointment over 50+ years?

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u/tbarb00 Jun 22 '26

Sounders fans: “we know”

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u/qwertyqyle Jun 22 '26

We kept saying this to them before the games started, and they kept saying we were full of shit. smh

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u/trexmoflex Wedgwood Jun 22 '26

Can someone explain what happens next regarding knock out scheduling?

Do we have a chance to get the US team here for the round of 16 knockout if they win in the 32?

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u/rramstad Jun 22 '26

Yes, my understanding is with the way things went in group stage, if the US wins in the round of 32, they play in Seattle July 6th for the round of 16.

Just what I was told...

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u/AtYourServais Jun 22 '26

Yes. They're locked into that bracket position now that they've won the group.

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u/Skithiryx Jun 22 '26

Adding onto the others, that round of 16 will have the opponent be the winner of Seattle’s round of 32 match. Currently neither team there is determined, but it’s 1st place group G (Egypt, Iran, Belgium, New Zealand) vs a 3rd place from a different group. Egypt is currently leading but that could change.

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u/Charming_Cicada_7757 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Yes the ways things are playing out the United States will win their group and in the round of 32 play

Bosnia, Algeria or Qatar in Bay Area

If the United States beats either of those teams we will play in Seattle against most likely Egypt or Belgium for the round of 16!!

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u/AtYourServais Jun 22 '26

That's completely wrong amigo. 

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u/SomethingFunnyObv Jun 22 '26

No it’s not, the US has won their group so their path is SF in R32, Seattle R16, LA for QF.

Edit: oh my bad lol. He got the stadiums wrong lol

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u/AtYourServais Jun 22 '26

The semi final match would be played in Dallas too, so he even got "the rest would be on the east coast" wrong.

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u/SomethingFunnyObv Jun 22 '26

Everything east of Vegas is basically east coast lol

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u/Tua-Lipa Jun 22 '26

If the US wins the World Cup, the rest of the world has to start calling the sport “soccer” until the next World Cup.

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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Jun 22 '26

Football's coming home

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u/Substantial-Law-7293 Jun 22 '26

I love my city and its people! Please don’t tell all our secrets! It’s a beautiful place to live. We don’t need them coming here and ruining our great vibes!😘😸❤️

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u/Difficult-Low5891 Jun 22 '26

Of course it’s magical here. It’s the Emerald City.

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u/-phototrope Jun 22 '26

It’s because we invented soccer

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u/AgentIntelligent4269 Jun 22 '26

What a well written and thoughtful article.
I enjoy when the city gets the recognition is deserves

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u/verdant11 Jun 23 '26

Seattle is magical

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u/ZlatantheRed Jun 22 '26

Natural football home? What does that even mean 

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u/Hopsblues Jun 22 '26

Most nations have a "national stadium", a home base for their national team games. In England, it's Wembley in London. Mexico it's Azteca, in Mexico City. We do it different here in the US. We play our home games all across the country. We just finally opened a national training center, outside Atlanta. A lot of folks are learning about soccer in the US and discovering that Seattle has one of the biggest soccer fanbases in the country. The two big drawbacks to Seattle not hosting more USMNT/USWNT games is that Lumen has field turf and Seattle is about as far away from anywhere else as it gets in the lower 48.

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u/MiningEarth Jun 22 '26

if only more US stadiums used common sense.

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u/TenDollarSteakAndEgg Jun 23 '26

What Seattle did he visit

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u/keylimesoda Jun 23 '26

Could've given a bit more of a nod to the Seahawks squad with 4 SB appearances in the last two decades? Maybe that wouldn't fit the vibe.

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u/Exxon_Valdezznuts Jun 22 '26

I bet all these commentators praising the venue are the same people who were protesting about the stadiums being built. As I recall there were tons of critics who apposed the stadiums. Lots of “we shouldn’t spend money on Sports Ball” rhetoric

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Jun 23 '26

i bet most people commenting on this stuff were not of legal voting age when those votes happened

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u/Exxon_Valdezznuts Jun 23 '26

Yeah, you’re probably right