r/MadeMeSmile • • 6h ago

❤️ those days

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u/Simply_Epic 3h ago

Part of the issue is that they’re effectively unemployed for 1/4 of the year (even though most teachers still do stuff for their job during that 1/4 of the year). Those 3 months aren’t paid time off. It’s unpaid. If it were PTO then they’d have an ok wage (still low, but it’d be much more livable).

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u/DazzlerPlus 3h ago

Slightly less than two months but yea.

Also consider the opportunity cost. Cant get a real job to fill that gap

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u/TheUsualQuestions 3h ago

Not sure what area you live in, it’s usually three months or so

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u/FUSE_33 2h ago

That used the be the case when I was a kid. Now here in Maryland, specifically Mont. County the students get about 8ish weeks for summer vacation. That’s it. This year last day was June 18 and school started August 24th.

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u/wenchslapper 1h ago

Damn, I got 12 weeks when I was a kid :(

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u/TheUsualQuestions 2h ago

That’s brutal, I assume winter break is longer?

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u/friendlyferns 2h ago

Two weeks, give or take. We got an extra last year because of Snowmageddon.

I will say that June 18 wasn’t the day we were SUPPOSED to end. We also get more weird days off during the school year. For instance, this entire school year so far, we’ve had only two weeks (out of eight or so) that have actually been full weeks. If not for a power outage that took out fourteen schools in one day, we would have had three.

Every other week has been four days or four and a half due to professional development and holidays, including this week, which has another, you guessed it, professional development day!

So yeah, we get less summer and only two weeks for winter, but we also have a crap ton of extra weird days in between, at least in my district.

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u/FUSE_33 1h ago

Nope. It’s a week. Dec 24th to Jan 1st. They also get one week for Spring break. Shame.

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u/DazzlerPlus 1h ago

Its a day or two less than two months in at least 80% of american districts

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u/Holmesnight 2h ago

We get out Last week of May and go back first week of August usually. With mandatory trainings in the summer, about a weeks worth. So two months, but maybe three other places.

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u/fresh_dyl 2h ago

Most places in Wisconsin start after Labor Day because years ago, the all powerful tavern league lobbied for that with our state so that bars and restaurants would have help until the holiday weekend was over.

They’re also the reason we’re one of the core Midwest states without legal cannabis.

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u/Copper-Spaceman 1h ago

My wife used to be a teacher. This is such a weird sentiment to hold.

Teachers agree to a salary, I agree that they should be paid more. Then they get the flexibility to decide if they want to be paid evenly throughout the year or taking larger payments during the school year and not get paid during the summer

They aren’t “unemployed”. $50k is 50k wether you split it between 10 months or 12 months. There’s few careers where you get your agreed upon salary and then get a 2 month break.

I’d rather argue about teachers unpaid time needed to do the job, argue about teachers salaries needing to be higher, or argue about teacher being criminally under appreciated, but let’s not skew the facts about being “unemployed”

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u/Yobber1 1h ago

I should be paid more for that 2 month break because I have to realign my brain from what I just experienced.

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u/Varigman 11m ago

They're paid for time off in civilised countries, tbf. In Australia it's not uncommon to rag on teachers for being paid obscenely for only having to work 2/3rds of the year.

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u/Johnny-Edge93 1h ago

In Ontario Canada teachers make 110k/year CAD (78k USD) with the best pension and benefits in the province.

It can be a tough job, but it has plenty of perks, and they’re not hard done by. They’ll complain though.

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u/Objective-Diver-888 2h ago

Actually, it is a little worse than that- when I first started teaching, you could elect to get your paycheck over 10 months, meaning each check would be bigger, but then you would have to budget for the summer.
Now almost all the contracts are for 12 months, meaning the district holds onto a chunk of your salary for a longer time, making interest off it. Some people prefer the balanced paychecks over the entire year, but it still means that all the teachers are essentially giving the district a loan from their income.

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u/julesvr5 1h ago

Is this an American thing? Because here in Germany teachers have a special standing (called "Beamter", although not everyone these days) and are employed for the whole year. And there salary is pretty damn good I would say.

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u/Abeytuhanu 1h ago

Teachers can opt to get paid for vacation time, but that is just a voluntary reduction of their pay to be given to them during the summer months and isn't a available everywhere. Our teachers are notoriously underpaid and overworked

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u/UnNumbFool 1h ago

Teachers in the US can either get their standard pay during the period they work and they don't get paid during the months off(and aren't allowed to get unemployment or anything to act as a buffer) or they can get their wages garnished during the school year so they will get paid that amount during the summer.

It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation

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u/SydZzZ 1h ago

Paid time off in Australia

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u/3163560 2h ago edited 2h ago

Wait, do American teachers not get paid over breaks?

In Australia we do (rough term lengths)

  • 10 week Term 1
  • 2 week break
  • 11 week Term 2
  • 2 week break
  • 10 week Term 3
  • 2 week break
  • 12 week term 4
  • 6 week break

All of it fully paid.

We do still do a little bit of work during breaks. But mostly you enjoy the majority of that time away from school.

I'm a government school employee, so I get paid fortnightly (~AU$2600 per fortnight after tax)

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u/DazzlerPlus 1h ago

The years are broken into contracts ending at the summer vacation. They pay for the 10 months of labor. The other two are unpaid. It doesnt matter if they split your paycheck, its a yearly furlough

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u/Blom-w1-o 1h ago

They do. Usually theres an option to be paid only while is in session (so checks are bigger), or spread it out over 12 months.

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u/ihambrecht 1h ago

It is not unpaid, people are expected to budget this as a yearly salary. People just outspend their budgets consistently.