r/KaiOS • • 4d ago

Announcements /r/KaiOS to be closed down until further notice

32 Upvotes

Hey everyone, I have made the difficult decision to close down this subreddit by locking to contributors only and making it read-only until further notice.

BananaHackers community and our work on making KaiOS devices moddable will continue in the subreddit's Discord server, which originated from this very community. For those wanting to stay on Reddit, r/dumbphones share many of our traits, and welcome you to ask and discuss not just about KaiOS but feature phones in general.

r/KaiOS has been home to many discussions and discovery of new features, people sharing their experience of using KaiOS and the community assisting each other with their phones. We appreciate and kindly thank each and every one of you for following and participating in the past 8 years (gee that flew by). It wouldn't be possible for me to meet those who use, develop apps, and hack these devices if it wasn't for you, and I wouldn't have (and share my passion on hacking) my 6300 4G alongside my 2720 Flip.

This community was meant to be mainly operated by the official representatives at KaiOS Technologies. BananaHackers' and community involvement in moderation is just a small part of it, but this has no longer been the case for a while now. Maintaining a separate community on Reddit does not align with what we're working towards, nor discussing the hacking of KaiOS devices is what the subreddit was intended to focus on. Dwindling interest in the OS also played a factor in our decision.

But this is not over. KaiOS 4 is still a major new release with improvements and notably better performance across the board when equipped with capable hardware, and there's still hope for it to go outside the US. Official WhatsApp support might be over, but community involvement means we might see a workaround to get WhatsApp and other messaging apps running. And KaiOS Technologies is transitioning to be a software provider for Point-of-Sale (POS) systems with KaiOS 2.6. Who knows eventually?

When that day comes, I welcome new moderators to take over the role. There would be enough technical information to assist you with, and maybe spark your interest in understanding this miracle of a operating system for smart feature phones. Until then, for referencing purposes, I'll leave this subreddit view-only and will get as many answers in to the existing posts.

(As a reminder, if you want to be a moderator of this community or be involved in the work of BananaHackers, you can see this post for how to apply. It is required to send us a modmail before asking to take over at r/redditrequest.)


r/KaiOS • • Oct 22 '25

Announcements Looking for new moderators and BananaHackers team members

18 Upvotes

Hi all,

In the past few years, the KaiOS ecosystem has changed drastically. Meta pulled WhatsApp and Facebook support from KaiOS 2.5, new devices are only limited to the US, yet KaiOS still survives (albeit very weakly). And BananaHackers team is seeing a leadership transition, with I and u/NoMoreUsernameLeak taking over the website, BananaHackers WebStore and the Wiki, and many experienced team members started to move on from the operating system.

Meanwhile r/KaiOS is still thriving as ever, as community members giving assistance to others regarding device problems, debugging and app development. However, as time goes on, I'm afraid that I cannot maintain the subreddit efficiently as a sole moderator.

As such, r/KaiOS is open for new moderators! Taking the role does come with a few responsibilities:

  • Most submissions on the subreddit are users seeking assistance with using their devices, so participating in the comments and giving help is a must. Researching and technical writing skills may be needed, as you may need to look up information on the official KaiOS website, the BananaHackers website, the applications on KaiStore and any third-party app stores.
  • A Discord account to join the subreddit's Discord server, communicate with the BananaHackers team and look up information not yet available on the website.
  • Having an actual KaiOS device for reference, a deep understanding of the operating system, knowledge of the app development process and submission process on the Developer Portal are all great assets. However, as long as you do well on your research, the BananaHackers team and community members are happy to assist you.
  • r/KaiOS receives relatively low traffic, so it's okay to just check it occasionally. Feel free to customise the subreddit and adjust the rules as you see fit (experience with customising AutoModerator is a plus!)

If you see yourself suitable for the role, send a moderator mail to the subreddit with a short introduction about yourself and why you might be able to take over the subreddit!

BananaHackers team is also looking for additional members. We're working on preserving information to prepare for the phase out of KaiOS, by transitioning to a new website based on Jekyll rather than Google Sites, adding new items to the BananaHackers WebStore, and rewriting guides to be suitable for beginners. If you have technical writing skills and want to help, please send me an email at duc (at) ducmbui.com.

You can also support the team financially by donating to team members at https://wiki.bananahackers.net/#_donate_to_the_bananahackers_team.

Thank you for helping and kudos if you made it through the post :)


r/KaiOS • • 8d ago

Help Micro SD Card not working on my Blu Flex Tracfone

2 Upvotes

I got a Blu Flex Tracfone a while back and I adore the thing, the problem is that I also like to keep a hefty music library on me, and I'm running out of space. Not a problem I figure, I can just get a micro SD card and chip it in, I know it has the slot so why not. I get a Lexar 128GB micro SD card and put it in, and nothing. A while ago it was fine, I still had plenty of space. Now I have 86MB left and I would very much like for the dang thing to start working. Any ideas?


r/KaiOS • • 9d ago

Help — SOLVED! Energizer E288S jailbraking (kaios 2.5.3.2)

6 Upvotes

hi. on the bananahackers page this device's jailbrake is "not verified"
doesn anyone know if thats possible/ some already did that? thanx


r/KaiOS • • 10d ago

Discussion CP and intense violence on Jack's App NSFW

27 Upvotes

There's an app on the Kaios store called "jack's app" it's a basically a socializing amalgam app but one of its sub apps (?) is called "all gallery" which as of posting this is currently filled with CP and gruesome violence (on the lower end of the scale there's a picture of someone decapitated) we need to do something about this I'm considering (scratch that I'm going to) calling the cops but other than that we need to do something about this we can't let this keep happening


r/KaiOS • • 10d ago

Help Jailbreaking tips for Jio Smart Feature Phone F120B

3 Upvotes

My parents had purchased this phone a long time ago for making calls and stuff but now no one uses it. My parents haven't buyed me a smartphone yet but they game me this jio phone and i want to jailbreak it and install custom rom, applications.
I haven't done it before so i don't know a single thing about how to do this jailbreaking so please help me out


r/KaiOS • • 11d ago

Development The feasibility of reusing compiled drivers/binaries from KaiOS's Gonk to build an at least functional Android AOSP/LOS/CM ROM for a KaiOS (2.5/3.x) device?

13 Upvotes

Hello everyone, after thinking about it for a little bit, there are certain configurations of low-end Android phones that have been shipped with dual-core CPUs and 512mb of RAM similar to how most KaiOS have had shipped and android is technically capable of running under those constraints, as stated by the Android 8 to 10 build GO build configuration having a minimum RAM requirement of 512 MB, and I feel like we can probably push harder on stripping the RAM usage if we use Android 6, which we know is the base of KaiOS 2.5's Gonk on most phones.

Let me address the elephant in the room here first: Android is capable of running on those constraints.

Now we do know that KaiOS devices are limited in other areas such as lack of several kinds of hardware that a typical Android phone expects to run with. Including, but not limited to, missing sensors like Gyroscopes and Accelerometers, Touch Screens (duh), Front Cameras etc.

But after doing some research and doing some personal, non-scientific tests using AVD (Android Virtual Device), I did come to conclusion that it is quite feasible for a low-tier smart featurephone running KaiOS to be able to run android when it comes to hardware form factor, and overall just making it work on a tier of hardware that people were not wanting to run android on.

Because there has been some precedents, notably phones like Micromax Bharat 1 shipping with the same hardware specs as the Jio Phone 1, while running a nearly-full build of Android 4.4 with GMS.

And in terms of running android where it wasn't supposed to, I was able to make an AVD with loosely similar specs of an Nokia 8110 4G running AOSP 6 with no GMS and then decided to a Memory Torture test where the Android installation automatically switched to a low-ram mode and therefore I was able to successfully play a youtube video INSIDE CHROME 40 OF AOSP 6.0.1 ON 320 MB OF RAM WITH NO ZRAM OR SWAP WITHOUT THE SYSTEM CRASHING. And mind you even as I tried switching apps and things, apps crashed gracefully without taking down the system.

With these things in mind, I think that it is highly feasible, and KaiOS 2.5 devices specifically are becoming more and more useless as the days go by and creating an alternate OS based on CM13 or something like that may actually save these phones from the landfill. Because Android itself is a native platform with language options like C++ and JIT/AOT compiled Java/Kotlin making the experience far more CPU/GPU efficient than KaiOS.

Now let us move back to the original question.

All I am now asking is the potential roadblocks for a endeavour like this. I am very well aware that I would need to modify and hard fork android or CM13 to accomodate for the lack of a touch screen. But what else do I need to consider for this.

KaiOS, and its predecessor, FirefoxOS ran on existing Android BSP (Board Support Packages)'s kernel, drivers and even the derived android-specific bionic C library, despite stripping out everything else that goes above it. These fundamental building blocks allows for not just Boot-2-Gecko to be compiled on Bionic and be ran over there, but theoretically Any android NDK app for that manner as well. (Tested it on a jailbroken 8110 4G by sideloading a Android NDK compiled hello C app and getting a proper output back)

The point that I am trying to make here is that, if they actually use the unmodified android core as gonk, then isnt it possible to take those components out of gonk and build an full android ROM based on it?


r/KaiOS • • 12d ago

Help New to KaiOS. Recommend adjustments?

10 Upvotes

Just got a TCL Flip 4 5G running KaiOS 4.

Seen there's community apps and root.

Is there a list of all the community apps somewhere? Is root required for those apps? If not, what all is everyone using root for?

Thanks in advance


r/KaiOS • • 12d ago

Development What JavaScript version is KaiOS 2.5.2.1?

3 Upvotes

i'm trying to pinpoint causes for my code not running. And im only asking this because its technically not meant to run on kaios, im just trying to adapt the code.

any help would be greatly appreciated

Or any obvious things that this version doesnt support i should know about


r/KaiOS • • 12d ago

Bugs/Unsolvable Kai Apps Not Working (i.e. KaiWeather, KaiNews, etc.)

6 Upvotes

I have a Nokia 2780 flip with KaiOS 3.1. All of the Kai native apps like KaiWeather, KaiNews, etc. stopped running. They will open and get to their main screens, but they will not upload. I do not have a data connection issue. Multiple restarts have not fixed anything. Any idea what might be going on? Everything else on the phone works.


r/KaiOS • • 15d ago

Discussion KaiOs would be even better if it had whatsapp

17 Upvotes

r/KaiOS • • 16d ago

Help — SOLVED! Where is the Memory Cleaner?

5 Upvotes

Nokia 2780, blue model. Alarm Clock has been acting up, missing active alarms and still playing deactivated ones. I read the Memory Cleaner app and function are how you avoid this issue. The apps and power menu do not show a Memory Cleaner. KaiOS 3.1


r/KaiOS • • 16d ago

Help How to mod model Alcatel 4056W

3 Upvotes

Hi this is my first time modding anything, and I wanted to know how to mod an alcatel model 4056W? If you need any more information to help, I’m more than happy to oblige. Thanks!!!


r/KaiOS • • 18d ago

Development TCL Flip 4 (T440W) OTA Root Method

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5 Upvotes

I made some signed OTA patches that can be sideloaded with adb to give root to the TCL Flip 4. Less involved than previous method and added a script for people who don't have a linux system or wls setup.


r/KaiOS • • 22d ago

Help — SOLVED! Has anyone successfully reverted a Kosher Phone back to standard KaiOS on a Nokia 2780?

8 Upvotes

Had my heart set on a Nokia 2780 after quite a bit of research. Found one after quite a while I might add, on Facebook Marketplace. Seller said it was new in box, no mention of any restrictions.

Venmo sent. Seller shipped it to me, and then booted it up, eyes gleaming.

KOSHER! Say what??

I tried factory resetting through the phone menu, as well as entering recovery mode to see if there was an option there, but nothing related to reformatting or resetting.

I tried to find out where this phone came from so I could ask them if they’d be able to restore the original system, or tell me how, but there are so many companies that sell these phones, it seemed pointless.

I’ve been down the rabbit hole of searching for a way to reflash or reinstall KaiOS, learning about Android Debug Bridge (adb). This led me to a GitHub page where Bence Szabó (Discord @szbnce) was repairing a 2780, which led me to Banana Hackers, which then led me here.

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I would just like to get plain old KaiOS 3.1 back on the device, no additional apps.

I was also thinking that if anyone had any knowledge of how to remove the restrictions, that would also leave the standard KaiOS on the phone too.

If anyone has any leads, as this has become a real detective case, please let me know. I did message the seller asking to see if they’ll refund me, but I just would like to keep the phone, and being a web developer, it seems kind of fun to get into this since so far it’s proven to be a challenge, and I love a good challenge.

Thanks for reading all that.

TLDR: Bought used Nokia 2780. Arrived and was locked, as a Kosher Phone. I want to go back to plain old KaiOS 3.1 that came with it. Please send help.


r/KaiOS • • 25d ago

Help — SOLVED: Counterfeit Nokia 2720 does not show wifi option but has KaiOS store- The modle is TA-1170 as well as saying HMD GLOBLA Oy in sticker in battery compartment

2 Upvotes

r/KaiOS • • 26d ago

Help Got an Alcatel flip go phone from a thrift store for $5, is there anyway to sideload apps onto it.

5 Upvotes

Yesterday I bought an Alcatel flip go phone for $5 at a thrift store to use as my primary phone when I get a SIM card but I'm curious to see if I can sideload some apps (mainly games) onto the phone, this is my first KaiOS device so I'm pretty new to this, sorry if this question has an obvious answer.


r/KaiOS • • 26d ago

Development Fix for Keyboard Double-Pressing (Key Chatter) on Nokia 8110 4G

4 Upvotes

Hi guys, I modified the files provided in this tutorial for Nokia 6300 4G. Now it also works on Nokia 8110! Follow the same steps as provided in the tutorial above but upload the files I'm providing here instead: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jd4lXZt2i-b2mx-fF3xV7BsyYv6hjAp1/view?usp=sharing


r/KaiOS • • 26d ago

Help Discord sideloading help. tcl flip 2. model number A406Dl

2 Upvotes

I am struggling to find a way to aquire a file that will work with waterfoxes webIDE. So far I have found none and have only gotten an error messege saying "a manifest file is required".

Im confused by what a manifest file is and im curious if theres a file somewhere that will work.


r/KaiOS • • 27d ago

Discussion Have you guys used kaios phone for iOT? like using it as a gsm gateway?

2 Upvotes

r/KaiOS • • 27d ago

Discussion Jail Breaking Jio Phone Prima 2

2 Upvotes

Hey everyone, I bought a keypad phone for detoxing purpose.
I bought this specific model, because it has QR Scan option for UPI payments,
but after two days of using it, I found these:

  1. Filled with bloatware
  2. Ads!!! They managed to put Ads in keypad
  3. Unable to sideload apps
  4. Unable to delete/uninstall bloatware

I'm very new to these stuff, so I'm going to use help of AI for jailbreaking this.
So if anyone has already done it or have anything to share, please let me know. This is just for learning purpose, a new hobby if anything, I don't care if I brick my phone in the process, as long as I learn something valuable.

From what I found, jio made it very very hard to tinker around with this shit (man seriously?)
Bananahacker is a wonderful resource too bad, it couldn't fully cover jio phone 2, also the maintainer is absent for more than a year now. So yeah, I'll be updating my process here.

Thanks all

PS: blog


r/KaiOS • • 28d ago

Help why is it saying this? it does it even w my wifi on

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5 Upvotes

install error notif every time i try to get an app even on wifi.


r/KaiOS • • 28d ago

Help — SOLVED! Nokia 2780 jailbreak gone wrong. Please Help.

2 Upvotes

Nokia 2780, Model TA-1420 (verified under battery)

I have tried to jailbreak using instructions here:

https://github.com/gogogoghost/nokia-2780-flip-jailbreak-tutorial

Using Ubuntu for jailbreak.

All 5 partitions flash OKAY with the jailbreak.

When I completed the tutorial, the phone gets stuck.

When I try to enter fastboot mode (volume down + power) I get this:

I click the power button to select fast boot and I get a booting screen for a few seconds

Then the screen just stays on "enabled by KaiOS"

When I boot recovery mode (volume up + power) I get this:

Any suggestions on how to fix this? TIA


r/KaiOS • • Sep 08 '26

Help Game boy Emul app

2 Upvotes

I recently got a flip 3 tcl phone and noticed the app “game boy emul”, when you download and open it it directs you to download a .gb rom. Is this legit? Chat gpt says KaiOS doesn’t have the capabilities to run such an app, but it does? Idk if like to use it just can’t figure it out.


r/KaiOS • • Sep 07 '26

Help Which KaiOS device is good for using custom apps

7 Upvotes

Hi, i looked KaiOS device (planning to start using it), i looked at its SDK and thinking to create some custom apps which i need for my daily use. Before that I have few questions:

  1. Does using custom application require the device to enable developer mode ?

  2. Is Nokia 2720 a good choice or it cannot be used for testing custom apps in 2026

  3. Which version of KaiOS shall I look for