She literally tells Willow that she wished she woke up at the same time as her. Aside from straight up saying it, she is the fifth teen. The only mystery is who she is.
I just don't understand how and why she decided to travel from the garden to the park besides not appearing at all in the garden.
For a vendetta, it would be a really late and thoughtful one (Schmector not being in Ominent anymore and Sloane not seeming to be in Ominent for long)
I'm of the mind that Grounded 2 was part of the plan all along and that the Deuces Trinket and the note that accompanies it in G1 is proof of that.
I think the masked stranger is angry that Ominent (despite knowing the 5th teen had been shrunk down and that there were others as well (we see them on a milk carton I think) never tried to find them.
I mean, if you want to come at it from a logical perspective in regards to what we'll likely get with the story, then yeah, that factors in. The others saw all these missing teens on milk cartons and, presumably, found their skeletons, so, from the teen's perspective, they likely just assumed that this missing teen was just one skeleton that they hadn't found. They weren't. For the 5th teen, they were a person who was clearly missing, that nobody bothered to look for. The teens left them behind, despite "having" to know that they were there somewhere. Thus part of the revenge plot.
I tried doing a Mix.R for the first time today and she said something like "You're a witness to these events, not a participant." Basically, telling me to stay out of her business with Ominent. That makes me wonder if she even cares that we're here.
Mmm grounded 2 proved that to be wrong with the MS asking where did they bury the dead teens. If the 5th teen/ms already been the yard she would have found them
Yeah, I feel like the question at this point isnt ‘who she is,’ but rather, what is she preparing us for? She’s “helping” us, she’s training us, that’s the whole point of the raids. She views herself as on our side. What does she know? How did she gain control of ominent tech? When did she gain that control, before or after taking over the network center? Did she initiate control over Tully, or did she just gain him after? The ceremony pamphlet near the snackbar talks about the speech he was going to give, and then there’s the obvious hints in his notecards, which hints at ominent doing it so they could control what he said.
I’m sure she has control of Wendell now, as she has control of all orcs, but I don’t think she planted that. I think Ominent put the receiver on him, because of that exact note card, and the others which describe exactly how he is to act during his speech, and making that speech pro Ominent. Which makes no sense for him. So once she took control of ORCs, she just could use Wendell to her advantage. Someone on youtube looked at the footprints, and they’re definitely his, and they lead to all of the receivers.
I dont know for sure that she did that, I know she drew Xs over the eyes, but OGRR was pure Ominent. An employee was questioning why they were doing it, why they would want to make bugs scarier. We know that wooly aphids were an ominent creation and essentially one of the first OGRRs, and all of the black soldiers spit tang. Which makes me think that Ominent pumped that into the queen so that the offspring would have that ability, just another variation of OGRRs.
I dont think the teen is doing the damage, I think she’s showing it to us.
Some of it could have been to rub Ominents nose in as well. There’s a document in the network center basically saying that they knew about her and they were watching her, and that she likes to do a big show for the cameras when she does something destructive.
We also still dont have confirmation on who shrunk us. We show up in an ominent facility that’s clearly been damaged, but we don’t remember why we’re there. Sloane claims she doesnt know how we got there, but since we’re here she wants us to help take down the teen. The teen hasnt told us she did it to us, and says she’s impressed when we get the first couple optical disks and immediately starts testing us and preparing us for what’s coming.
We know Sloane doesnt tell us everything, but we dont know how much she isnt telling us. If she’s a red herring and only knows surface level CEO things, or if she has a bigger plan. I do think Ominent still has more control in this situation than we can see, it’s very possible they put us there with the intention of making us deal with the teen, but we think we went after Wendell, and since she had control of Wendell, she could have had him shrink us and set us up so she had backup.
There’s also the fissure, and there’s no way that isn’t incredibly important at some point, but what is it, what caused it? We know ominent was observing that as well.
My theory is Schmector is actually the one pulling all the strings. I believe he found the fifth teen and fanned her hatred for Ominent, Wendell, and the other teens. He convinces her to help him get revenge on all of them for ruining his life while also convincing her that they all ruined her life too. Someone had to bring her from the backyard to the park as well as make the ORC receivers and only a handful of people knew she was there, Schmector of course being one of them. Since the good ending of Grounded is the canon ending I think it makes sense that Schmector would want revenge and would use an impressionable kid who was already shrunk to get that revenge. Eventually I think the fifth teen will realize that Schmector has just been using her the whole time and that he’s actually the one responsible for what happened to her and will end up being an ally.
Hey, hold on a second.
I get your point, but look: Schmector didn't fall into a pit with tens of kilometers deep while getting hit by plasma beams, and have his deathstar blown up right after.
It’s not that unlikely for him to return or be manipulating things somehow.
It's about the principle of the thing, not the plausability. When a franchise clings to old characters rather than commit to a new story, the franchise suffers.
Or at least, dont make them the BBEG AGAIN. Wait 1 or 2 BBEG's, THEN bring the monster back. Stir up new trouble, address new trouble, old trouble overlooked pops its head back up while we are "weakened".
I beg a differ cause it wouldn’t be like also think about it we only seen him in flashbacks. The only time we fought him he was in a robot form… he might return in robot form or maybe we will fight Wendell in robot form under his mind control from the ms
I feel as though that schmector isnt the one responsible but Sloane instead because out of everything even though they've done what was needed to fix what happened, theres got to be something they've left out besides the 5th teen still being alive...plus we dont know what made the doctor go crazy and break burger then again 5th teen might be responsible
There are notes you can find in G2 that mention her helping/being in experiments in the park. So Ominent probably found her at some point and moved here there.
Huh. I guess I need to reread all the notes I've found or maybe I haven't found those particular ones yet. I'll have to take a look at what I've gotten thus far.
Fair enough, i admittedly have not played 2 yet. I was just looking up stuff on the fifth kid.
And some of the stuff I found was about the masked stranger, but I couldn't seem to get an actual confirmation.
I thought there was evidence that she was that one employee with long blonde hair, 555 maybe. Also I think there was a theory that she was the daughter of the mayor lady.
One of the earliest interactions with Sloane is realizing she’s a teen, and Sloane admits that she didnt tell you because it’s embarrassing that they’re losing to a kid. I wouldnt be shocked if the employee has some involvement, but they’ve made it clear that it’s a teen.
Not this again. Willow woke up multiple times now in different years and locations, and the Stranger didnt specify WHEN or WHERE she woke up, only that she wished Willow woke up with her and the place and time she woke up, which could be anywhere. We also know there were more kids and adults that were shrunk from G1 and G2 now. So its not confirmed she is the 5th teen from G1. Its very likely a red herring.
Even more telling that she might not be the 5th teen is that the Stranger also says this only AFTER she gathers data on the events of grounded 1 from hacking Ominent in G2. Which means she probably didnt know much more about them other than what was spread on the news and needed to get more info on them, which she did. She watched the same anera footage that the Ominent employees were watching to study the 4 teens in the yard.
She also says "in the yard, you were warriors" not "WE were warriors". This further shows that she doesnt include herself as a survivor of the yard from G1 because she probably was never there to begin with.
What about the note in G1? Theres spiders in both games as apex predators that hunted both the teens and adults. That doesnt mean anything, Its too vague.
However, I do suspect that the 5th teen will make an apearance, but I dont think its The Stranger and instead may be someone the Stranger may be working with. Its "probably" employee 555s daughter, or schmector's daughter, or Sloans daughter, who knows, but thats probably more likely to be the case than her being the 5th teen.
If you mean the employee of the month pictures (employee #555) I believe that's a red herring. Assuming the dates on the posters are either their age, it would put that person in their forties. If anyone, employee #962 is more likely to be the stranger as they're much younger and work in the domestication program.
But that still doesn't really tell us who they are other than Ominent employees, willing or otherwise
I'm pretty sure she is using and O.R.C. device (or something similar) to control Wendall. There is a note card on top of the podium where he gave his speech, and if you take the first letter of every word it spells out "please help me im being controlled" that would explain why he's wearing a hat, and why he suddenly went crazy
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Yeah I didn't want to mention those cos spoilers but I was alluding to those 😆 I play as Willow, and my hubby plays Pete... She treats Willow differently as well xD
Personally, I think the mysterious stranger is the kid of someone mentioned in a box under some trees in G2. There's further evidence supporting it scattered all over the park, commemorative coins, etc...
Check the rocky path between the ice cream cart and the podium, circuit there's one there, and th I nk there was one along the path south of the ice cream cart. I noticed one wasn't a quarter while fighting a scorpion, after that started seeing them here and there. There's not many, 3-4 in total scattered across the area between the fire pit and ice cream cart
Here's both sides same location south of the ice cream cart on the trail. What's interesting is there's one inside the case, several throughout the park... I did have a thought, the first fight with the mysterious stranger seemed like a teen, second one seemed older... mother/daughter combo?
But doesn't sloan have brown hair? Sure she could have it from a mysterious blond hair father but wouldn't make much sense to me why they would choose different hair colors
I looked at it I can understand what you mean I feel like it's just lighting though since the light is shining to her back which can have the effect of brown hair becoming more light
Or maybe it’s one of Wendell’s kids, angry that their father abandoned them for the raw science in the backyard. They never did get that flying discman back.
I thought (correct me if I’m wrong) through the numerous playthroughs I’ve watched of G2, wasn’t it confirmed or is it still only theorized that the MS is the 5th teen?
There is no evidence to say she is the 5th teen, only loose theorys. There has been nothing that solidly links her to the backyard. Or even hints at the backyard either.
That note is the 5th teen, but there is no link of that note to the stranger. People only say that its her because if a spider, but the spider is the main apex predator if both games that bith the adults and teens have to deal with.
In the fight, she says she wished willow woke up with HER but didnt disclose when or where she woke up. Even if she was refering to the time willow woke up, what makes you think she woke up at the yard? Willow woke up at the yard AND the park. So which was it? She didnt say. Its suspiciously vague.
She also says "YOU were warriors" not "WE were warriors". Why wouldnt she include herself if she was there too and had spent a lot of time there?
Also, note that she says all this AFTER she hacks ominent and watched the camera recordings that ominent had of the 4 teens and gathers data on them.
So there isnt any evidence. Just very vague stuff that is "probably" a red herring.
The dev files even have the 5th teen as "V" which can mean "5" but that doesnt link her either because there is employee 555 so she might be linked to her instead, oerhaps as a daughter, but there is not evidence for that either.
She wears an old Sca.B but the teens arent the only ones who had them. It was mostly used by adults + there were more shrunk teens. The G1 teens took sca.b devices from the corpses of adults in the yard so The Stranger could have taken it from an adult or.... TULLY himself, since she like has him somewhere.
However, I wouldnt doubt that the 5th teen will make an apearance in G2, perhaps someone The Stranger works with. Who knows.
But when she said "I need to find US a safe pl" then who is US? She isnt talking about the Fantastic 4 bc she mentions them being safe in the case. Who else was she with?
She was clearly in the first game. She said she took inspiration from us in the Yard, and also worked for Ominent at some point (as did Pete). When did she study us? Was it DURING the yard after she got captured by Schmector and brainwashed? Or was it after and she collected old recordings through Ominent channels? What does she hope to achieve in "teaching us" a lesson with raids?
Okay, yeah I’ve only booted the game to see how it ran on my pc and was just in awe of the difference 🤣 it’s soo pretty 😭. But it may just be the community theory im thinking
I’m not sure exactly how confirmed it is, but there are too many hints that point towards MS being the 5th kid that I would be surprised to find out they weren’t connected.
So the character decapre in street fighter is a member of this group called the dolls who are clones created by the main bad guy m bison. Decapre is very clearly a clone of the character Cammy, the joke is, if the capri takes off her mask, it's someone who she clearly isn't
I don’t know if anybody else noticed, but in the cut scene when the first fight with her happened, she actually had the old scaby on her hand and the new one at the same time but if you went to her card, you get from beating her the first time you can see that it’s not actually there… obviously we are in early access so it could just be that they were using old placeholders and they forgot to remove that and that’s why it’s not on the card, but it could also be a hint to the fact that she was in the yard and never left meaning that she never got to remove hers
While this is the common consensus within the community at the moment as pretty much all points lead to Violet being the 5th teen, there could be more to the character of the masked stranger than we know right now.
A few while ago during one of their casually Grounded 2 dev streams, the devs made a point in saying that whole the theories are good, there are going to be twists and turns in the future story beats that we didn't think would happen.
No i call someone a gatekeeper when they decide someone isn't enjoying something the right way and tries to mock or belittle them for it, ya know a gatekeeper
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Sur la map (tout au sud du début), sous le plancher en bois, peut trouver une tente avec une note.
Mais si je me rappelle bien du contenu il dit qu'il est avec "des enfants" (après je peux me tromper) mais on dirait que lui c'est un adulte..🤔
Mais on n'a pas trop d'info la fin est déchiré.
J'ai envie de penser qu'il y a d'autres notes de cette individu mais je n'ai sans doute pas chercher au bonne endroit.
Par rapport au Espions d'Ommient (la société que Wendell Tully travaillais de base et qui le traque la note est trouvé devant son campement et non pas dans un squelette.
Si des gens on plus d'informations je serais ravi de les connaître.
I don't know, in reality, i just know that she is extremely annoying, beyond what it was intended, methinks, and I will be glad when we get to off her by the end(Well, i hope we do, she clearly is a sociopath)
It might be Violet, the fifth teen. Its also possible that its Dr. Tully's daughter Sarah. Both are equally plausible. What makes me lean more towards it being Violet is that they show no real malice towards the protagonist, other than sending bug waves as tests of your strength. But its pretty obvious she doesnt want to kill the teens. Shes happy when you survive her waves, its what she wants.
I'm in the understanding that she has been shrunk since the first game and forgot about, so, by the time the second game comes several years later, she's basically gone insane/ looking for revenge on everyone who forgot about her. I think it's better that they don't tell anything more about her for the whole second game to keep the mysterious aspect of her character.
It's still a long time to be shrunk down, forgotten, and surviving Wolf spider attacks. Not to mention, the fifth kid had to travel all the way from the yard to the park (distance isn't really mentioned on how far apart those are, but I'm assuming it's more than just a zip line away)
If she was the 5th teen, she should have just hung out at the case until we woke up, instead she took off maybe a day ahead of us and got pissy thinking we left her behind
We know the fifth teen is a child based on the hastily written note where they state that they woke up in a case with four other kids but they were still asleep and the information we have about the masked stranger supports her being an adult mostly by her hair and her voice in the game
My theory is that the fifth kid is one of Schmector, Wendell, or Sloane Beaumont’s daughter who was shrunk along with the kids, woke up much much earlier than them, escaped the original backyard and made her way to the park
It all comes back to the company. The tech exists so she could have the ability to do it whenever. And people grow up and change things like hair color. As for tulley and burgl we cant comment on that yet because it hasnt been told
Contacts. And could easily have been part of the character design. Maybe she was infected by the purple shit too. Ita too early to tell. All I did was state my opinion. If you dont share it then thats fine.
I don't think so from what we have story wise so far.
If the 5th teen was still alive, why do they not find us in the yard? That explosion would have drawn them in, had they shown up after we did, BURGL would have mentioned them to us.
Another wrinkle in the theory is they clearly know about our performance in the yard, they keep mentioning it during their calls, if they were around to see us they would have just joined us looking for help.
Also, there is no mention of the park facility in the yard, with the cerimony that goes wrong about 2 years after the yard events. This leads the logical question, why does the teen leave the yard to go to the park, thousands of cm away from there to find this facility to attack.
Time will tell if they work them in, so far we have gone through 2 encounters but nothing no faces, no names, no explanations of her motives, it is clear she hates omminent as any decent person would but nothing beyond that.
I found a body under a leaf at the middle garden (the same level as the charcoal spill) it was near the pond. I'm thinking the masked stranger isn't the 5th child because there is only one other person shrunk down and it is Wendle.
People think its The Stranger and really want it to be but theres no evidence of it. I, personally, think its a red herring.
Why?
Willow woke up multiple times now in different years and locations, and the Stranger didnt specify WHEN or WHERE she woke up, only that she wished Willow woke up with her at the place and time she herself woke up, which could be anywhere and time since people have been casually shrinking and unshrinking now after the events of G1 and the technology has been made public. But she never said those crucial details and it was probably writen that way for a reason. We also know there were more kids shrunk before and during the events of G1 AND multiple adults in G1 and adults and teens in G2 now(pete worked for ominet after G1). So its not confirmed she is the 5th teen from G1 with this dialog line. Its very likely a red herring.
Even more telling that she might not be the 5th teen is that the Stranger also says this only AFTER she gathers data on the events of grounded 1 from hacking Ominent in G2. Which means she probably didnt know much more about them other than what was spread on the news and needed to get more info on them, which she did. She watched the same canera footage that the Ominent employees were watching to study the 4 teens in the yard.
She also says "in the yard, you were warriors" not "WE were warriors". This further shows that she doesnt include herself as a survivor of the yard from G1 because she probably was never there to begin with.
What about the note in G1? Theres spiders in both games as apex predators that hunted both the teens and adults. That doesnt mean anything, Its too vague.
But the G1-style sca.b? They werent given to the teens only. They were given to the adults too, thats how you get more themes in G1, you take it from the corpes of the adults. The Stranger could have taken it off an ominent employee OR wendal himself, since she likely has him somewhere.
However, I do suspect that the 5th teen will still make an apearance, but I dont think its The Stranger and instead may be someone else that The Stranger may be working with.
My theory is that its "probably" employee 555s daughter, or schmector's daughter, or Sloans daughter. And thats probably more likely to be the case than her being the 5th teen but even that theory is just as loose and vague at best.
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u/superkow Jun 28 '26
She literally tells Willow that she wished she woke up at the same time as her. Aside from straight up saying it, she is the fifth teen. The only mystery is who she is.