r/GermanCitizenship • • Jan 28 '22

Welcome!

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Welcome to /r/GermanCitizenship. If you are here, it is probably because you have German ancestors and are curious whether you might be able to claim German citizenship. You've come to the right place!

There are many technicalities that may apply to your particular situation. The first step is to write out the lineage from your German ancestor to yourself, noting important events in the life of each person, such as birth, adoption, marriage, emigration, and naturalization. You may have multiple possible lines to investigate.

You may analyze your own situation using /u/staplehill's ultimate guide to find out if you are eligible for German citizenship by descent. After doing so, feel free to post here with any questions.

Please choose a title for your post that is more descriptive than simply "Am I eligible?"

In your post, please describe your lineage in the following format (adjusted as needed to your circumstances, to include all relevant event in each person's life):

grandfather

  • born in YYYY in [Country]
  • emigrated in YYYY to [Country]
  • married in YYYY
  • naturalized in YYYY

mother

  • born in YYYY in [Country]
  • married in YYYY

self

  • born in YYYY in [Country]

Extend upwards as many generations as needed until you get to someone who was born in Germany before 1914 or who is otherwise definitely German; and extend downwards to yourself.

This post is closed to new comments! If you would like help analyzing your case, please make a new top-level post on this subreddit, containing the information listed above.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 7h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Aktenzeichen has been received! I am now a number...

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In America there is a saying that, "you are just a number." Today, I am happy to be so! I just received my Aktenzeichen!!!!

I had submitted my StAG 5 application in August of 2026 after exactly a year of collecting 17 documents, many of which I did not know existed! I gained so much insight into a family that I knew nothing about! Even if I am not approved for citizenship, I am so happy I did this and proud to be the daughter of a German! It's been enlightening to say the least, especially since my mother was born illegitimately in the circus in Dresden, 1941. The odds were against me finding what I needed, but I did and I now I know my family's history and that is priceless to me!

None of it would have been possible without this community helping me! Thank you all so much!

So, Now I wait..... a very long time! But, at least I am a number!! 🤣


r/GermanCitizenship • • 2h ago

Obtaining Documents Do i have all thats needed?

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My GF was born in 1906 in Germany.

Mom was born 1930 in USA

I (female) was born 1968 in USA

i have his Birth Cert from Germany.

His 1949 NATZ from NARA (With the red ribbon)

(all NYC and NY long form certified copies)

His marriage cert

Mom's Birth cert

Mom's Marriage Cert

Mom's death Cert.

My FBI background check (with Apostille)

My Birth Cert

My Marriage Cert.

and the Vordruck EER Anlage EER. no need for AV, as its just me, mom, GF.

I don't have a copy of his Death Cert, Do I need to order a copy of that?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 2h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Question about criminal charge

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Hello,

My FBI background check has an arrest from 2010 for 1st offense marijuana possession (misdemeanor). The charge was dismissed, but the FBI record does not provide disposition.

Will disposition proof generally be required? It might be tricky as all marijuana charges were expunged from records in Virginia due to marijuana legalization, and the charge was from almost 20 years ago.

I am wondering if I should go down this rabbit hole now, or if it is not likely Germany will ask for disposition due to the nature of the charge. If they do request it, I can always go down the rabbit hole then. Thoughts? Thanks!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 1h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 When to get the FBI clearance??

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I think have a pretty straightforward citizenship by declaration path?
I was born to German mother in 1969.
Both my sisters have dual citizenship because they were born after 1976

I have an appointment coming up to certify copies of my documents at the consulate for myself and my 2 adult kids

When should I get the FBI clearance? Do I send it all together or wait? It seems it expires after 6 months and the process may take years?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 16h ago

§10 StAG Naturalization from within Germany Regensburg Einbürgerung

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Hi everybody. After completing my 5th year, i have applied for citizenship. I live in Regensburg, Bayern.

I want to share my process with you guys, so if anyone is looking for some help or examples, his might be helpful.

Briefly, it took me 4 months to receive my Einbürberungsurkunde.

18th June: I was eligible to apply for citizenship.
22nd June: I have completed my online application and send it out.
24th June: I have received a post, with 3-4 documents to fulfill. They were like the commitment to the German law, confirmation that i informed my country about the dual citizenship, organization memberships and so on.
25th June: Documents are sent to Bürgerzentrum.

29th September: Received a post, sayin my process is approved. Then i got my appointment for 13th October.

13th October: Received Einbürgerungsurkunde and applied for Ausweiss and Reisepass with express delivery.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 2h ago

Something Interesting I Found AfD is poking at the Brandmauer constantly - another migration packet brought forward by them in the Bundestag last week

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Regarding naturalization, the proposal was to make it purely discretionary, after 10 years of residence, ending dual citizenship and with time spent in the asylum system not counted.

It was debated in the Bundestag on Oct 9 and rejected by all other parties, but I think the AfD's strategy here is to slowly tempt a fraction of the CDU, especially the ones that are increasingly sick of the coalition with the SPD.

If the budget negotiations fail in November and we end up with a minority government, I won't be surprised if we see this bill again.

Deutscher Bundestag Drucksache 21/8387 Antrag der Abgeordneten Dr. Gottfried Curio, Dr. Bernd Baumann, Christopher Drößler, weiterer Abgeordneter und der Fraktion der AfD Maßnahmen für eine wirkliche Migrationswende


r/GermanCitizenship • • 8h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Prof. Dr. Tarik Tabbara writes article suggesting section 5 applies to descendants born after basic law took effect even if intermediary ancestor was not

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Prof. Dr. Tarik Tabbara is a professor of Public Law, in particular German and European Security Law, at the Berlin School of Economics and Law. He recently a published a 5-year update on section 5 StAG entitled:

Tabbara: Reparation for Gender-Based Discrimination in Nationality Law – An Interim Review at the Halfway Point of the Ten-Year Period for Submitting Declarations under Section 5 of the Nationality Act (StAG) (ZAR 2026, 331)

The article is behind a paywall (I've linked to it above), but in section 5.1, he argues that if the descendant is born after the Basic Law took effect, he should be eligible to apply even if an intermediatory ancestor was born before the Basic Law took effect.

I posted an article here on Reddit to a similar effect almost a year ago, and was roundly downvoted and critized as being wrong.

Below is the relevant text of Prof. Dr. Tabbara's article:

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5.1 Zum zeitlichen Anwendungsbereich: Nachwirkungen von vor Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes erfolgten Diskriminierungen

In der behördlichen Praxis ist es zu Diskussionen hinsichtlich des zeitlichen Anwendungsbereichs der Wiedergutmachungsregelungen nach § 5 StAG gekommen. Dabei geht es um die Frage, ob Abkömmlinge von Kindern eines deutschen Elternteils, das vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes am 24.5.1949 die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit aufgrund geschlechterdiskriminierender Vorschriften nicht erworben oder verloren hatte, ein Erklärungsrecht nach § 5 I 1 Nr. 4 StAG zukommt. Während das Erklärungsrecht nach dem Wortlaut von § 5 I 1 StAG für alle Fälle (Nr. 1–4) auf Personen beschränkt ist, die nach dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren wurden, ist das hinsichtlich der Frage, ob auch Abkömmlinge von Kindern, die vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes aufgrund diskriminierender Regelungen vom Erwerb der deutschen Staatsangehörigkeit ausgeschlossen waren, nicht eindeutig. Die vom Gesetz gewählte zeitliche Begrenzung für die Erklärungsberechtigung erklärt sich mit dem Beginn des grundrechtlichen Schutzregimes.29 Im Hinblick auf die Abkömmlinge von vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geborenen Kindern, die von geschlechterdiskriminierenden Vorschriften im Staatsangehörigkeitsrecht betroffen waren, trifft der Wortlaut von § 5 I 1 StAG keine ausdrückliche Aussagen: § 5 I 1 Nr. 4 StAG, der die Abkömmlinge betrifft, verweist nämlich ausdrücklich nur auf die „Kinder nach Nummer 1 bis 3“ und nicht auf die vor die Nummern 1 bis 4 gezogene Erklärungsberechtigung, die an die Geburt nach Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geknüpft ist.

Auch die Gesetzesmaterialien geben insoweit keinen eindeutigen Aufschluss, da die Gesetzesbegründung im Zusammenhang mit dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes auf die selbst Erklärungsberechtigten abstellt und damit nicht klärt, ob auch diejenige Person, von der sich das Erklärungsrecht ableitet, selbst erklärungsberechtigt gewesen sei muss: „Die Erklärungsberechtigten sind in den Nummern 1 bis 4 im Einzelnen aufgeführt. Erklärungsberechtigt ist, wer nach dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren und damit dem grundrechtlichen Schutzregime unterfallen ist.“30 Auch die Erläuterung zu den Abkömmlingen (§ 5 I 1 Nr. 4 StAG) besagt nur, dass die „Kinder“ von geschlechterdiskriminierenden staatsangehörigkeitsrechtlichen Vorschriften betroffen sein müssen. Das besagt nicht, dass diese selbst nach Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren worden sein müssen: „Nummer 4 erfasst die Abkömmlinge der unter den Nr. 1–3 aufgeführten Kinder, die im Fall verfassungskonformer Abstammungsregelungen die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit ohne weiteres durch Geburt erworben hätten.“31 Damit ist aber auch nach den Gesetzesmaterialien nicht ausgeschlossen, dass Abkömmlinge eines vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geborenen Kindes, das aufgrund eines geschlechterdiskriminierenden Tatbestands nach Nr. 1–3 vom Abstammungserwerb der deutschen Staatsangehörigkeit ausgeschlossen war bzw. diese verloren hatte, sich nicht auf § 5 StAG berufen können, wenn sie selbst nach Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren wurden und damit dem grundrechtlichen Schutzregime unterfallen.

Auch der Zweck der zeitlichen Begrenzung, die mit dem Beginn des grundrechtlichen Schutzregimes des Grundgesetzes begründet wird, schließt es nicht aus, dass auch fortwirkende Diskriminierungsfolgen eines Ausschlusses von der deutschen Staatsangehörigkeit von Vorfahren, die vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren wurden, berücksichtigt werden, sofern die Erklärenden selbst nach diesem Zeitpunkt Geboren wurden und daher zum Zeitpunkt ihrer Geburt dem grundrechtlichen Schutzregime unterfallen. Gegen eine ausschließliche Berücksichtigung von unmittelbaren Diskriminierungen nach Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes spricht schon, dass § 5 I 1 Nr. 2 StAG auch zeitlich davorliegende Diskriminierungen erfasst. Diese Regelung betrifft nämlich die Kinder von Müttern, die durch Eheschließung mit einem ausländischen Mann die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit verloren hatten (§ 17 Nr. 6 RuStAG 1913). Diese später als Frauendiskriminierung bekämpfte Verlustregelung war im 19. bis Anfang/Mitte des 20.

Jahrhunderts weltweit verbreitet.32 Der eigentliche Diskriminierungstatbestand, an den § 5 I 1 Nr. 2 StAG das Erklärungsrecht anknüpft, ist dabei nicht die Geburt des Kindes (zu diesem Zeitpunkt hatten die Mütter keine deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit mehr), sondern der zeitlich davorliegende Verlust der Staatsangehörigkeit durch Eheschließung mit einem Ausländer. Insoweit besteht aber nach dem Gesetz unstreitig keine Beschränkung auf Fälle der Eheschließung nach Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes. Das Erklärungsrecht rechtfertigt sich in diesen Fällen also aufgrund der mittelbaren Spätfolgen einer Geschlechterdiskriminierung, auch wenn diese noch vor Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes erfolgt war. Dass Spätfolgen geschlechterdiskriminierender staatsangehörigkeitsrechtlicher Regelungen, die vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes zur Anwendung kamen, in den grundrechtlich begründeten Wiedergutmachungsgedanken einbezogen werden können, belegt auch die vor dem 4. StAGÄndG geschaffene Erlasslage. Das Bundesinnenministerium hatte mit Erlassen von 2012 und 2019 vereinfachte Ermessenseinbürgerungen (§ 14 StAG) aus Gründen der staatsangehörigkeitsrechtlichen Wiedergutmachung für Betroffene von NS-Unrecht und Geschlechterdiskriminierung vorgesehen, deren Voraussetzungen allerdings strenger waren als der jetzige § 5 StAG.33 Diese Erlasslage, auf die z. T. noch auf Websites deutscher Auslandsvertretungen verwiesen wird,34 kennt allerdings keine zeitliche Beschränkung im Hinblick auf das Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes, so dass sich die Regelung auch auf Kinder (und deren Abkömmlinge), die vor dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren wurden, erstreckt (hat).35 Die Anwendung der Erlasse ist zwischenzeitlich aber wohl zumindest ausgesetzt.

Zu beachten ist in diesem Zusammenhang weiterhin, dass die Staatsangehörigkeit als Grundlage politischer Mitwirkungsrechte rechtssicher festzulegen ist.36 Für den Anwendungsbereich des Erklärungsrechts nach § 5 StAG wäre daher für eine Beschränkung darauf, dass Abkömmlinge nur von direkten Vorfahren, die selbst nach dem Inkrafttreten des Grundgesetzes geboren wurden, eine ausdrückliche Regelung erforderlich, die den Anforderungen an die Rechtssicherheit und Rechtsklarheit entspricht. Soweit auf Fälle einer fortwirkenden Diskriminierung § 5 StAG nicht angewandt werden sollte, obwohl hierfür, wie gezeigt, gute Gründe sprechen, sollte jedenfalls die Anwendung der vereinfachten Ermessenseinbürgerung nach der (früheren) Erlasslage in diesen Fällen erfolgen. Das sollte erst recht für Anträge gelten, die vor dem Inkrafttreten von § 5 StAG n. F. gestellt worden waren.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 5h ago

Am I eligible? citizenship via descent 1904 rule specification

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hi all, first post here and this may be a stretch or a weird question in the end.

i have an ancestor whose father and mother arrived in the US in 1883. they then went on to have a daughter, who out of their children, is my direct ancestor. said daughter was born (estimated) in 1893. i know the 10 year rule was set into place and generally any year before 1904 doesn’t count.

would her parents have passed their citizenship onto her when she was born as she was born at their 10 year mark?

follow up question: since she would be turning 10 in 1903, would there still be a shot at citizenship if she was able to receive it from her parents when she was born before they officially lost theirs?

i’ve found a few documents through familysearch about them to try and gather more info and i read through the guide posted in this sub, but this is such a strange case that i wasn’t sure if it would still count.

any suggestions/answers/places to double check documents would be super appreciated! thank you!!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 3h ago

§10 StAG Naturalization from within Germany Einbürgerung in Ulm

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Hallo zusammen,

ich hätte eine kurze Frage zum Ablauf der Einbürgerung hier in Ulm:
Mein Verfahren ist soweit komplett durch, alle Unterlagen liegen vor und als letzter Schritt steht jetzt nur noch die Vorlage bzw. Prüfung der heimatlichen Pässe an. Der Sachbearbeiter meinte, dass danach der Termin für die Einbürgerungsurkunde folgt.
Hat jemand von euch Erfahrung damit, wie lange diese Passprüfung in der Regel dauert? Wird der Pass meist direkt vor Ort kurz geprüft und wieder mitgegeben, oder behalten sie ihn für ein paar Tage/Wochen da?
Vielen Dank im Voraus für eure Erfahrungen!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 12h ago

Passport Passport kept for echtheitsprüfung

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Hello everyone im currently on a very weird situation, I provided my documents for the citizenship last month and somehow the person handling my case said that the system is asking for my passport (non eu) to be send for verification

My passport was renewed in April so its quite new but my main problem is that its my only travel document

I called the office today to ask for any updates on when I'll be able to get my passport back or any sort of timeline in how long it usually takes for others and she was quite done with me and simply said multiple times that it could take anywhere from one month to 3 years, and that it was sent to the police last month and now I have to wait as they cant do anything

This sent me in a total panic mode as I feel completely trapped and the passport is my main means of identification and I dont know when I might need it again

Does anyone have any similar situations and can provide any more insight or informstion how long did it take for you etc..


r/GermanCitizenship • • 8h ago

Am I eligible? Gender Discrimination Pre-1949 Updates?

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Hello all, feeling a little frustrated as I believe (obviously all the caveats officials knowing better than me) that I would be eligible for citizenship if my ancestry was along a paternal line rather than a maternal line.

All the gender discrimination relevant to my ancestry occured pre-1949...has there been any news on if this is going to be addressed by the Bundestag?

Edited the below with corrext dates.

For those curious, my timeline is:

German GGGM born 1880

GGGM immigrates -> 1884

GGGM marries foreign man* 1899

GGGM gives birth to GGM 1911 (before her 31st birthday)

GGM gives birth to GF 1938

GF fathers F 1969

I'm born 1999

*I believe he was a 'naturalised' British Subject but not sure how this factors in as that isn't considered being a British citizen under their laws? Prior to naturalisation he was German. Otherwise would be stateless as his age of majority + 10 would have lapsed.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 2h ago

Getting citizenship by immigration & naturalization Timeline query: Daueraufenthalt EU cancelled in favor of pending Einbürgerung (S-Referat) – Normal or red flag?

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Hi everyone,

I’m looking for some insight or similar experiences regarding my citizenship and permanent residency application timeline.

Here is my timeline:

Nov 2025: Applied for Citizenship (Einbürgerung) while holding a § 18b residence permit.
May 2026: After waiting 6 months with no updates on my citizenship application, I decided to apply for a Permanent Residence (Niederlassungserlaubnis).
The case worker replied that I was eligible for Daueraufenthalt-EU instead and requested additional documents, which I submitted immediately. They were aware at this point that my citizenship application was already pending.
Aug 2026 (3 months later): Having not received an appointment (Termin) for the Daueraufenthalt-EU, I sent a polite follow-up inquiry.
Reply: They informed me that they coordinated with the citizenship department (S-Referat) and consequently cancelled my Daueraufenthalt-EU application to prioritize my Einbürgerung.
Since then, I haven't received any further updates regarding my citizenship application.

My questions

  1. Does applying for (and the subsequent cancellation of) the Daueraufenthalt-EU negatively affect or delay my Einbürgerung process?
  2. Is it standard practice for LEA / authority to pause or drop a PR application when a citizenship application is active?
  3. What would be the best next step? Should I continue waiting, send a formal query, or consider contacting a lawyer / filing an Untätigkeitsklage (action for failure to act)?

Thank you in advance for your advice and help!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 10h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Certified copy - US passport?

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Hello,

I am applying for citizenship via 5 Stag. I have certified copies of all requested documents (ordered from source). I am going to make an appointment with the Mission in Washington, DC to submit my paperwork.

Will they make a copy of my passport there, or what should I do for this specific document? This one isn't as simple as ordering a second copy.

Thank you!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 14h ago

Am I eligible? Worth pursuing German citizenship by descent if my great-grandfather changed his name?

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Hi everyone,

I’m trying to figure out if I have a realistic German citizenship-by-descent case or if the documentation issue with my great-grandfather makes it too difficult.
He was born in Germany and moved to the U.S. in the early 1910s. He married in the U.S., had my grandfather in wedlock before he naturalized as an American, and I have his naturalization documents. The rest of the family line down to me is documented.
The main issue is that nobody in my family knows his original German surname. He seems to have completely changed his name after emigrating, and some of the birth details he later gave in the U.S. may also have been inaccurate (there’s a good chance he immigrated illegally) but we know for sure he was born in Koblenz. I haven’t been able to find a German birth record under the identity he used in America.

His original entry into the U.S. may also have been irregular or poorly documented.
I’m thinking about hiring a German genealogist and doing DNA testing to try to identify his original family. My understanding is that DNA alone probably wouldn’t be enough, but if a genealogist could find his German birth record and build a strong circumstantial case connecting the two identities, could that still be accepted even without a formal name-change document?

Has anyone dealt with something similar? Is this worth pursuing, or does the missing identity link make it too much of a dead end?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 9h ago

§30 StAG Feststellung (Determination of German Citizenship) Feststellung directly in Germany

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hello, people. I've been a watcher of this community for fairly a long time, but found no concrete answers to my situation.

I currently live in Brazil, and applied for my Feststellung in 2024, with my AZ from September.

I'm planning on moving to Germany soon, on the Chancenkarte, which grants me 12 months of legal stay.

So, I would like to know of any stories of transferring the process to the city, and how much time it took, given I have a limited amount of time.

*Just for clarification, my grandfather was born in DE in 1904, came in 1924, and my father was born in 1966, I was born in 1992 (both in wedlock). My cousin already has his Staats, so I know for sure it will be recognized.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 12h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Citizenship by declaration grey area

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Hi all, asking for me and my mother.

Apparently “there’s a good chance” we could be eligible for citizenship by declaration (we paid German lawyer to do some document retrieval who said so, obviously they may have said that so we’d pay them!)

What we know:
- German grandmother (born 1929) we can prove she was German as we have all the background info on that
- Married my English grandfather August 1949 in Germany, in the BAOR base. (German and UK marriage certificates)
My German grandmother explicitly stated she had to give up her German citizenship as part of the process.
- At some point they move back to the UK (my grandfather discharged in June 1952)
- my mother born late 1953 in the UK
- Grandmother dies in 2003 (British on death certificate)

We have all the documents to prove descent in German and everything on the a English side too.

But I have a couple areas that I find totally vague?

I’m aware the Basic Law in May 1949, thus in effect at the time of marriage, changed the loss of citizenship to no longer be automatic. But then, there’s this “transition period” that stopped in April 1953? So did it or didn’t it? Also that the UK changed its nationality law in 1948 so that also impacted what was automatic and what wasn’t.

Im aware the date of UK naturalisation matters too, I haven’t found any announcement of it in the Gazette, (luckily Oma had a very specifically German name so won’t be duplicated). I have requested a search for her in the National Archives to see what happens. There could be potential she never actually formally naturalised I suppose?

I’ve now basically read so many things and chats with AI bots I have no idea what eligibility is and isn’t anymore!

Any thoughts? Thanks!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 15h ago

§5 StAG Gender discrimination after 23 May 1949 Does your AZ have a date in it?

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Mine is TSII3-2024 0807 XXXX-EER. I sent my docs in April 2024 and the BVA emailed me the AZ in August 2024. I'm wondering if that 0807 is a date (8 July or 7 Aug 2024).

Does the 4-digit block in yours match a date? If so, does it line up with when you got the AZ? Would love to compare notes!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 12h ago

Am I eligible? Father adopted and naturalized as a minor, how does that affect me?

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I read through the wiki but I’d like some confirmation, since this is kind of complicated

Father:

-Born in wedlock 1950

-Adopted by Americans in 1953

-Naturalized as a US citizen in 1957

-Married an American in 1993 in the US

-I was born 1997

From what I understand since his adoption and naturalization took place both before 1977 and as a minor, he kept his citizenship and so therefore I would be one by birth, is that correct?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 21h ago

Apostille and Translation FBI Rap Sheet Federal Apostille Timeline

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Some may be interested in this.

27 August 2026: Package arrives in Sterling, VA.
25 September 2026: They cash my check.
14 October 2026: Return package is with USPS in DC.

That's seven weeks.


r/GermanCitizenship • • 11h ago

§10 StAG Naturalization from within Germany How does it work with immigration lawyers to file an Untätigkeitsklage?

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I have an appointment with a lawyer soon. He will charge me €225 per hour for a consultation. I will explain him my case and situation.

What happens after that? Does he give me a quotation for the full process? Or does he keep charging me hourly rates?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 3h ago

§10 StAG Naturalization from within Germany I built a free practice site for the German citizenship test (Einbürgerungstest)

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Hi everyone,

I made a free website to practice for the Einbürgerungstest: einbuergerungskompass.de

  • All 310 official questions
  • Free, no sign-up
  • Questions can be read aloud
  • Translations of the questions for help
  • Calculators for deadlines and costs

and would love honest feedback. What is missing? What could be better?

Thanks!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 1d ago

§30 StAG Feststellung (Determination of German Citizenship) Has anyone used a Drohung der Untätigkeitsklage in their Feststellung case?

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to ask if anyone here has experience using a Drohung der Untätigkeitsklage (threat of inactivity lawsuit) in their Feststellung application to try to speed things up.

In my case:

I first initiated the process back in November 2019.

Later, the consulate requested an additional document, which I submitted in August 2024.

Despite that, they assigned me an Aktenzeichen (AZ) dated January 2024.

I’m wondering if sending a Drohung der Untätigkeitsklage has actually helped anyone in similar circumstances, especially with long delays. Did it make the BVA move faster, or was it just met with a standard reply?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences!Has anyone used a Drohung der Untätigkeitsklage in their Feststellung case?


r/GermanCitizenship • • 1d ago

Apostille and Translation Direct-to-passport approved, but need German divorce recognition first— apostilles/translations?

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I'm a U.S.-born German citizen by descent. The German Embassy in Washington, DC, has preliminarily confirmed that I acquired German citizenship at birth through my father and that my daughter acquired it through me.

However, before applying for our first German passports, I need name declarations and formal recognition of my divorce. I'm preparing to submit the divorce-recognition application to the Berlin Senate Department for Justice, either directly by mail or through the Embassy.

I have an exemplified copy of my Maryland divorce judgment, proof that it is final, a Master and Examiner's Report (reasoning behind divorce), and an official county-issued marriage certificate.

I'm getting conflicting information about the requirements:

  1. Did Berlin require apostilles on your U.S. divorce documents or marriage certificate?
  2. Did you need certified German translations of English-language divorce documents? If so, who did you use?
  3. Did you submit directly to Berlin or through a German Embassy/Consulate?
  4. How long did Berlin take to process your divorce recognition?
  5. If you applied through the Embassy, did that make the process easier or faster?

Berlin's general checklist mentions translations, but the German Embassy's U.S.-specific guidance says English documents generally don't require them. I'm trying to avoid unnecessary apostilles and expensive translations while ensuring my application isn't delayed for missing documents.

Thank you!


r/GermanCitizenship • • 18h ago

§10 StAG Naturalization from within Germany For those of you who applied for German citizenship (naturalization) in Germany, did you include a cover letter explaining what you were applying for, or did you just send the documents? If you included a letter, what did you write?

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I've been living here for five years, and I will apply next week. I already have all my documents ready.

Also, did you use paper clips or a desk stapler to keep the documents together? I mean documents that have several pages, like a 6 page document.

By cover letter I mean just:

I send hier the documents for the deutschen staatsbürgerschaft. Of course this would be in german.

Don't you guys think its better to write what uou applying for? (10 StAG). Of course they will see that but I don't know igual thought it would be nice to send and to say what you're sending for.