r/FF7Rebirth • u/AlexN83 • 1d ago
No Spoilers - Discussion Best "all purpose" party makeup
Just started the game on chapt 2.
Looks like we have more flexibility on party than in Remake where at times we were forced to use certain characters.
Generally I like to go with cloud Tifa Aerith. Tifa for atb and stagger bonus, Aerith for massive nukes and arcane.
Is this a good all purpose setup for rebirth? Or would u swap one of them for another character? To be fair I’ve never played Yuffie or Red so I may be jumping the gun here.
What 3 some did u guys prefer for a general setup (priority to boss fights over trash)
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u/Due_Product7492 1d ago
I cycle through my combat teams periodically to give everyone some chance to level up and master special moves and stuff. I love everyone except Cait Sith tbh if I never had access to him again it wouldnt bother me
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u/Realistic_Cabinet29 1d ago
I used to think like you about caith, but once you really try it, it's really fun to play
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u/Beneficial_Joke_4248 1d ago
In my opinion, Cloud/Barret/Aerith is the best all-purpose party.
It covers the traditional ‘dps-tank-healer’ setup, with Cloud and Aerith being able to dish out big damage while Barret provides support with tank and stagger capabilities.
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u/Ebolatastic 1d ago edited 1d ago
Actually tifa/aerith/cloud is a high risk high yield team comp. Their synergy skills together: spellblade/power cleave are like huge wind up hits that do insane damage and get crazy atb. You wont get those folios until chapter 3-4ish, though. Aerith is beyond powerful in rebirth, all her abilities make everyone else better. Tifa of course jacks up stagger damage which is always useful. However both girls need cloud to do all the tanking cuz they are both glass cannon dps.
If you notice, they already have 3 comps picked for you. Cloud/tifa/aerith (comp 3), cloud/red/barret (comp 2) and cloud/red/aerith (which is comp 1). Comp 1 is the balanced comp. Comp 2 is triple tank high defense. Comp 3 is all damage glass cannon.
For balance you would use one super powered dps (tifa/aerith/yuffie) and one jack of all trades tank/dps/support hybrid (red/barret/cait) alongside Cloud (who is a super powered magic tank). Of course you can make anyone do mostly any role, and every team comp is viable. Im just talking about the default setups. Like everybody has their own brand of broken and the only universal truth is aerith will break them harder.
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u/AlexN83 1d ago
Got it. I love Aeriths play style despite being a glass cannon.
I hadn’t noticed the 3 predetermined comps. Would u personally go with glass cannon Tifa or safer Red as the third member?
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u/Ebolatastic 1d ago
Well my first comp was definitely tifa/aerith and that was long before I truly understood rebirths mechanics. Its really all about what you want out of your team. Not to mention first playthroughs involve unlocking all the weapon abilities and so on. Id say try and rotate around its fun. Maybe you'll do fine with glass cannon and not need defense at all. No wrong answers really.
I have a YouTube channel and if you truly want to understand the fundamentals, check my two 10 minute rebirth videos or watch this: https://www.reddit.com/r/FF7Rebirth/s/Hd9GzYwUGL
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u/gabriel_spadilha 1d ago
Yes sir, that’s a very good party, the only better one would be yuffi , aerith and cloud for the ultra nuke build. Since yuffi + atb ward = infinity atb and cloud and aerith can make double nuke insane arcane ward
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u/AlexN83 16h ago
Thanks for the suggestion! Can cloud effectively tank for the 2 ladies? Dynamic difficulty
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u/gabriel_spadilha 13h ago
Hell yeah, just hold R1 and anyone can tank for then. But on this game the best “tank” is damage hahahaha so if you kill then fast, you don’t even need to worry about tanking.
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u/Balthierlives 1d ago edited 1d ago
I generally use cloud Barret Tifa. Then Yuffie replaces Tifa when she joins.
Barret does overcharge to build atb then later you get atb boost to instantly have 2 atb. Then use bonus round so Barret can build atb fast. Then use assess to assess all the enemies. Then Barret holds 2 atb to use prayer when needed.
Aerith I find not useful until the list game when you have maxed out material and mp absorb. It’s hard for to build atb as fast as Barret can. I think awaits was better in remake and built atb a lot faster in remake.
Tifa is good early game but she lacks range that Yuffie had. Yuffie builds atb a lot faster and can pressure many enemies passively with her element jiujitsu. Tifa in a lot of ways was better in remake than in rebirth. But even in re with if you focus in just using unbridled strength twice, then holding attack and release at the top of her jump and then quickly press and hold again to instantly slam down in the enemy she will do excellent damage. Tifa is not nearly as good at building stagger as she was in remake though.
Cloud is the mainstay though. Give him sonic boom and plasma discharge as well as fist strike and later atb boost. Start the battle lunging in to quicky get to 2 atb, then use plasma discharge and atb boost to proc it again. Then use sonic boom for bravery/faith, then use disorder to get berserk for another damage boost. Then just use disorder over and over again into the enemies are dead. That setup will destroy basically everything for the entire game. Speed demon keychain will help with atb recovery, and the atb assist is perfect for this setup too.
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u/Unlikely-Unit-5864 1d ago
I would not include Aerith in my main party until you unlock several abilities, namely spell blade synergy skill, ATB boost and another first strike or choco cape. Aerith builds ATB very slowly, which is painful at the beginning of the game where you don't have ways to speed it up. Tifa is amazing against elite/bosses once you have a good understanding of the stagger system, which is paramount to success in this game's combat. I went with Cloud, Tifa and Barret until Yuffie replaced Barret. Do note that for most bosses the party composition is imposed on you. Trash doesn't matter once you have quake + magnify and Cloud's Rune blade.
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u/Adrewmc 1d ago edited 1d ago
Cloud, Tifa, Barret. For Physical DPS. (Top choice all around).
Cloud is just the all around character, High Magic attack, High Physical attack, Tifa is a powerhouse and stagger bonus is just OP. She quick and hits lots. Barrett long range and tanks hits, I usually give him healing too. On flying opponents Tifa can lift off with a synergy skill, while Barrett fires and Cloud will shoot his range.
Cloud, Aerith, Yuffie For Magic DPS
Aerith wards with Yuffie doppelgänger, is quad spells. So if you want to hit really hard with a big spell. This is the team. Cloud also has Magic Blade at any time here as a big magic attack, and is the front line. This can be a little squishy.
Aerith, Barret, Tifa without cloud
Aerith is really use full support, big magic, Barrett tanks, Tifa is front lines.
Red XIII is good against mobs using stardust ray, and spin attack. He’s also a good sub for magic so you might switch him in for ‘without Cloud’ for Aerith. But I think that making flying enemies more difficult. I find him underwhelming, even in Vengeance mode.
You get Cait Sith this game, is that a spoiler? I don’t really think so.
Cait Sith, is really just support. His party boosts helpful but underwhelming, he has a stagger percentage increasing punch, which helps, and some of the dice hits do work. (I generally find him hard to work with, worst character to fight with. Maybe I don’t get him.) I don’t see anything great he adds to any team he’s on.
The real secret is simple, use EVERYONE and hit those synergy abilities and skills. Every team is viable for anything really, except maybe Tifa, red, cait against a flying opponent…that’s just a bad match up
Tifa and Aerith work well together and give Cloud Magic and Physical Blade, which are big hits. They all work together somehow actually.
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u/SillyCatSteven 1d ago
Cloud, Aerith, Yuffie For Magic DPS
Change Cloud with Tifa and equip her with ATK <-> MATK. This way, only Aerith has magic stat higher than her. Also, Tifa's Chi Trap is magic-based and her Unfettered fury modifies her unique attacks to magic-based. Allowing her to conserve her MP for staggered enemy.
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u/bizkit413 1d ago
I liked having a melee, a ranged, and another. Cloud was good for melee with his aerial abilities, Yuffie or Barret were good at ranged. The other could be whoever, maybe Tifa, maybe Red, almost never Cait or Aerith just due to personal preferences.
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u/Western-Ad-6259 1d ago
Barrets really good for his ability to tank basically anything and keep the party completely safe.
I don’t think there’s really an objective best. Depends on how good you are at playing the characters you’re using
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u/Tidus32x 20h ago
Cloud/Aerith magic build decimated basically everything. Yuffie's brutal form for essentially unlimited atb
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u/ponpiriri 15h ago
I try not to get stuck with a specific party, so I switch it up based on who has a new weapon and whose side quest I'm fulfilling. I try to keep everyone at the same level.
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u/banned4killingspider 14h ago
Never played yuffie is wild. Thats your most powerfully broken party member by a landslides yo
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u/SillyCatSteven 5h ago
For some reason, I can't get Yuffie to work as a controlled character. I know she's suppose to be broken, but she is the bottom 2 of my characters.
I can get her to work very well if she is in the active party and I just switching to her occasionally. But once I started controlling her for any extended period of time, I tend to die faster.
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u/hrbekcheatedin91 12h ago
I like Cloud, Barrett and Yuffie, or... Cloud, Barrett, and Aerith. Aerith's ATB ward on Barrett makes battles so much easier and faster, but sometimes you have too many opponents or opponents that are too fast so you need Yuffie to be able to run around and attack enemies while she runs.
With either of those teams, you have three players with long-range abilities, which is nice.
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u/DovahkiinNyomor 1d ago
I personally like Cloud, Aerith and Yuffie the best for constant ATB and command spamming and incase I need to constantly exploit an enemies weakness.
But I'd try everyone. I like Cloud, Tifa and barret for more consistent staggering and overall damage.
Cloud, barret and Red for two dps tanks.
Cloud, Cait and barret for tank supports.
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u/SillyCatSteven 4h ago
IMO, all party members can be customized to fit an "all purpose" party makeup. The only thing to watch out for, is you generally don't want to put Tifa and Red in the same team, esp in the beginning, because both are bad at dealing with aerial enemies. Tifa gets a bit better, if she has the synergy skill that allows another character to boost her into the air without costing any resources.
Once you get the synergy materia much later in the game, the party I normally run with for random encounters is Aerith + Yuffie with synergy materia. You control Aerith. She casts Radiant and Arcane wardm then use synergy skill with Yuffie to teleport her into the wards, then spam Aerith's normal attack for ATB and use Soul Drain. Yuffie preferably would have Doppelgänger activated by now. So if you have comet linked with synergy, then Yuffie casts comet 4 times, and due to the effects of Radiant ward, she would take no damage while casting comet. All done with without costing any MP. For general random encounters, you probably don't even need to activate Doppelgänger.
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u/Ajmwuajmwu 1d ago
Honestly. Without spoilers, learn every character. There are so many viable party compositions.