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Painted up my first Black Templar's miniature. Anyone have any tips how I can make it better?

Finished my first few pair of initiates, opinions?

“As if there was only one.”

(Grimaldus done in Jay from EoB’s style!)

So with the new detachments I was initially feeling that it would be no issue to use vows with whatever 1 point detachment you wanted but assault brethren feels like an auto include in many lists, to the point that I start with it and go from there it’s not as easy as I assumed to keep vow sworn.

With how many sources of lance there are (including from assault brethren, and the nerf to accept any challenge, it’s hard to justify it in my eyes.

To me, Vow sworn is useful for 3 things, if you are fighting knights (and knew before hand so you didn’t pay points for chaplains/ other sources of lance), if you know you are fighting a psyker faction, and if you need the purge force disposition.

Those are legitimate use cases but I wish what is supposed to be the defining detachment of black Templars had more generic usefulness.

It’s supposed to be a Swiss Army knife that lets you change vows as needed but it’s if a Swiss Army knife only had the tweezers, corkscrew, and tooth pick. Those are all useful at times, but you kind of want a knife for your Swiss Army knife.

Sry dark room flash ruins it

This should allow me to keep a balanced SM list on their toes. Any thoughts?

(ironclad champions, ironstorm spearhead, devastator bretherns) Prio assets.

CHARACTER
Techmarine (55 pts)
   · Forge Bolter, Grav-Pistol, Omnissian Power Axe and Servo-Arm

BATTLELINE
Emperor's Champion (100 pts)
   · Bolt Pistol, Black Sword
   └ Leads: Assault Intercessor Squad ×5 (85 pts)
· 5× Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4× Chainsword, Power Fist

Lieutenant (50 pts)
   · Bolt Pistol, Master-Crafted Bolter, Ceramite Fists
   └ Leads: Assault Intercessor Squad ×5 (85 pts)
· 5× Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4× Chainsword, Power Fist

INFANTRY
Scout Squad ×5 (65 pts)
   · 5× Bolt Pistol, 5× Boltgun, 5× Combat Knife

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs ×5 (95 pts)
   · 5× Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4× Chainsword, Power Fist

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs ×5 (95 pts)
   · 5× Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4× Chainsword, Power Fist

High Marshal Helbrecht (125 pts) · Warlord
   · Ferocity, Sword of the High Marshals
   └ Leads: Sword Brethren Squad ×4 (115 pts)
· 4× Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4× Master-Crafted Power Weapon

Terminator Squad ×5 (190 pts)
   · 5× Storm Bolter, 5× Power Fist

Scout Squad ×5 (65 pts)
   · 5× Bolt Pistol, 5× Boltgun, 5× Combat Knife

VEHICLE
Brutalis Dreadnought (160 pts)
   · Bolt Rifles and Brutalis Fists, Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin Multi-Melta

Repulsor (215 pts)
   · Defensive Array, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Hunter-Slayer Missile, Twin Lascannon, Armoured Hull
   · Upgrade: Redoubtable Machine Spirit (+25 pts)

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 pts)
   · Ballistus Lascannon, Ballistus Missile Launcher, Storm Bolters, Armoured Feet

Repulsor Executioner (280 pts)
   · Defensive Array, Heavy Laser Destroyer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin Heavy Bolter, Armoured Hull
   · Upgrade: Gunnery Honours (+15 pts)

DEDICATED TRANSPORT
Impulsor (70 pts)
   · Storm Bolters, Armoured Hull

2000 / 2000 pts · 17 units · Strike Force
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0 point (1,980 Points)

Space Marines
Black Templars
Assault Brethren and Vow-sworn Crusaders (3 Detachment Points)
Purge the Foe
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

High Marshal Helbrecht (125 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Ferocity
• 1x Sword of the High Marshals

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Sword
• 5x Bladeguard Veteran
◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 5x Master-crafted Power Sword

Attached unit 2

Emperor's Champion (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Black Sword
• 1x Bolt Pistol

Assault Intercessor Squad (95 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 4x Assault Intercessor
◦ 4x Chainsword
◦ 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer

Attached unit 3

Chaplain Grimaldus (120 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 3x Cenobyte Servitor
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
• 1x Chaplain Grimaldus
◦ 1x Artificer crozius
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol

Crusader Squad (170 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 1x Sword Brother
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon
• 5x Initiate
◦ 5x Bolt Pistol
◦ 5x Close combat weapon
◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Initiate Chainsword
◦ 1x Power Fist
• 4x Neophyte
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Neophyte Chainsword

Attached unit 4

Chaplain on Bike (95 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol
• 1x Crozius Arcanum
• 1x Twin Bolt Rifle
• Enhancements: Imperium’s Sword

Outrider Squad (160 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 5x Outrider
◦ 5x Chainsword
◦ 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol
◦ 5x Twin Bolt Rifle
• 1x Outrider Sergeant
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
◦ 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

CHARACTERS

Techmarine (55 Points)
• 1x Forge Bolter
• 1x Grav-pistol
• 1x Omnissian Power Axe and Servo-arm

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Impulsor (90 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Orbital Comms Array

Impulsor (90 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Orbital Comms Array

OTHER DATASHEETS

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Repulsor Executioner (275 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 1x Heavy Laser Destroyer
• 1x Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Twin Heavy Bolter

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Shotgun
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Combat Knife
◦ 4x Shotgun

Sword Brethren Squad (140 Points)
• 5x Sword Brother
◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (110 Points)
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
• 4x Vanguard Veteran
◦ 4x Combat Shield
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

Pointing the way forward for the ensuring Black Templar blades and bolters are the Infiltrators and Eliminators.

Currently building a 2000 pt black Templars army, this is my current list, any and all feedback is welcome!

I love Repulsor executioners and dreadnoughts though, so any suggestions regarding anything with Gatling guns, flamers, and big-ass canons would be greatly appreciated!

Raise Shields Captain?

I was prepping the Xmas wishlist and I was just looking through the rules when I came across this under the Heirs of Sigismund section in the army rules.

• Your army cannot include the following datasheets from Codex: Space Marines: GLADIATOR LANCER; GLADIATOR REAPER; GLADIATOR VALIANT; IMPULSOR; REPULSOR; REPULSOR EXECUTIONER.

I am pretty sure I have seen a fair amount of discussion here about these vehicles. Do we just ignore this "guidline"?

Used parts from Bastian Carthalos and our Highmarshal.

Recently saw a BTs list and the guy ran Grimaldus with Assault Intercessors. I recently saw someone ask how healing works now and this gave me an idea. Not sure if it will work because I don't know if Grimaldus' Servitors get the 4+ invul and 5+ FNP , or if it's just him. But if they do, an Apothecary can always bring them back since they aren't Characters in the unit, thus giving you 2 free bodies to keep protecting the unit. Or am I mistaken and the rules have changed, so you can't waste off 2 of them and keep the last one alive until it comes to Grimaldus.